In the first book Ron looked into the mirror (that at the end of the book contained the SS within it) and saw himself as Head Boy, Quiditch Captain and holding the Quiditch cup. Could this unrealistic view of him at the time be what was coming for him in the future? Since his look into the mirror, although many years later, Ron has become a prefect which is, as Percy said to Ron in his letter in the fifth book, a key to becoming Head Boy. He has also joined the Gryffindor Quiditch team and has already won the Quiditch cup. Angelina Johnson was the Quiditch Captain in the fifth book, but she was in her seventh year at Hogwarts. This means that in the sixth book that a new Gryffindor Quiditch Captain will have to be chosen. Ron knows a great deal about the game of Quiditch and about the strategy involved with it. There for he would make a good candidate for Captain. And it’s very possible that in the seventh book that he could be made Head Boy. It is also very possible that in the seventh book that with as good of players as Harry, Ginny, and Ron are that Gryffindor could win the Quiditch cup again. If they did then the mirror would have truly predicted Ron’s future, because at the point he would be Quiditch Captain, Head Boy, and he would be holding the Quiditch Cup.

I was wondering about other peoples thoughts on this matter so feel free to tell me off for being completely off if thats what you think.

I think you're right ghost!! When Harry looked into the mirror he saw his parents, because thats what he wanted (to see them). I think. And then in the fourth book when he was dueling with Voldemort, his parents came out of the wand and he got to see them. If Harry looked into the mirror again, i wonder what he would see...

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Wow I didn't make that cenection with Harry. cool

I think if Harry looked into the mirror again he would Sirius.

The mirror doesn't show the future but the most desperate wishes of our hearts, we know that so. When it comes to Ron I think his most desperate wishes will come true, he has already won the quidditch and house -cup and he's a prefect. So if he becomes a head boy a believe almost every dsperate wish of Ron's has come true or they will.

That was my point, the mirror isn't supose to tell the future but if Ron does become head boy and quiditch captain then the mirroe would have.

well if it did come true for Ron and he did become Head Boy...the mirror wouldnt have been telling what was to come in the future. It would just be a coincedence that what Ron wanted most, was also what he would get in the coming years after he looked into the Mirror of Erised. ((in my opinion))

Now I've only read the first book once, but I don't remember anyone but Harry saying that it coulden't predict the furture. So if someone would be able to get a quote from the first book that is Dumbledore saying that it doesn't, than I would concede defeat and there would be no further need for this descution.

I think Harry would become Quidditch captain before Ron as he has been on the team for longer than anyone...Ron although he knows a lot about the game, he is not as good of a player as Harry is..I am almost certain Harry will become captain...with Umbridge gone he will be able to play again...and be reinstated..what I wonder is what will happen to Ginny??? I wonder if they will train her to take Angelinas position??

she already said she'd like to be a chaser after harry is back

Thank you emma_isHOTT, thats all I wanted, I concede defeat of my thoery and am contant with the awnser.

Hmmm. Okay y'all are veering slightly off-topic so I've edited the title to broaden the scope of discussion.

Hope you don't mind, Ghost!!

No, I don't mind. I would be glad to descuss this more if anyone else is willing.

As many already said the mirror only shows the persons most despirate wishes. In Ron's case, he has 5 brothers before him, that have already down what he has to do. So he wants to get the recognizition they got. The only way he can get the recogniziton he so despiratly desires is if he is better than his brothers. I think JK is trying to say that dreams do come true.

But see Dumbledore said it gives us neither knowlegde or truth. That could be a very key word, the only ones there at the time were him and Harry, he could hve meant that it doesn't give Harry or himself truth. So maybe the mirror can only tell the furture for some people, or maybe theres somthing to do with Harry and Dumbledore that makes it so the mirror can't tell their furture.

I see your point, Ghost. Ok, first I'll answer the title of the thread, which is a question, Can the Mirror tell the future? My answer is no, it can't tell the future but it could be a guide to your future.

Regarding to what Ron had saw in the mirror, he saw what he desires. We don't know what he had think after that part but then Ron might not forgotten what he saw and it became an inspiration to him. As for Harry, the desire of seeing his parents also became an inspiration for him to finish Voldemort.

Ghost that is a good find...maybe it cant tell the future for people with "..true horrors in their past." (lupin quote) and since DD has fought the two most powerful wizards, besides himself, and defeated one..i'd say he's seen some pretty nasty stuff! but i still highly, HIGHLY doubt it tells the future for anyone..it will just be coincedential

I'll try to keep this "mirror" related, but first I want to make note that there IS a good chance that Ron could be captain. Now, I know to many that is stating the obvious, but someone previously mentioned that Harry will be first pick since Umbridge is now gone and he has been on the team longer. I mean, wouldn't it have seemed natural for Harry to be a prefect?

That all ties into the fact that the mirror's prediction, or Ron's fantasy, could indeed come true. The journey to Head Boy seems an already expected one because he is already a prefect.

I think the whole thing about Harry "seeing" his parents after the mirror is a pretty interesting point. All in all, I don't think the mirror predicts the future, but hey, just like the ever-popular cliche states, dreams do come true.

I think it sometimes showed the future to, Because in SS.Ron saw himself as a keeper and he took a Quidditch cup,which will be shown in the next film that is Ootp.So it definitely show future as well as the past.

I know that the Mirror of Erised is not meant to forsee the future but now that we know that JK Rowling is considering killing a few of the main characters, isn't it possible that Harrywill end up with his parents once again (I sincerely hope not) and therefore the mirror was not only showing Ron his future, it was showing Harry his as well. I know that Dumbledore said that the mirror shows no more and no less than the deepest desires of our hearts and I hope that he knew everything about this mirror, of course I don't want anything to happen to the amazing Harry.

*~*Stephanie*~*

No, the mirror does not show the future because Harry becomes Quidditch Captain and Erised backwards is Desire.

The only flaw in the argument i can find is that JKR said that there would be no moer quidige in the last book. Great idea though, and remember ron already won the cup. Weasly is ourking he didn't let the quaffle in Weasly is our king

Dumbledore said himself that the mirror shows your heart's deepest desire, not the future. Ron saw himself as Quidditch captain, and Harry is.
I trust Dumbledore.

If the mirror DID tell the future – wouldn’t Ron have been chosen for Quidditch captain?
Still you may say that he could be one in book 7 but didn’t Rowling say that there would be no more Qudditch Matches?
Anyway, Ron isn’t even that good at Qudditch.

I dont' think that the mirror tells the future. Dumbledore said himself that the mirror does not tell the future, but your heart's deepest desire. I believe what DD said!

the mirror cant tell the future because when quirrell looked into the mirror he saw himself giving the stone to his master....wich he never dose, not yet at least. but he cant because he is dead. unless he somehow cam back from the grave or is a ghost.(but thats good news) or could his master hav changed.

the mirror cant tell the future because when quirrell looked into the mirror he saw himself giving the stone to his master....wich he never dose, not yet at least. but he cant because he is dead. unless he somehow cam back from the grave or is a ghost.(but thats good news) or could his master hav changed.

the mirror cant tell the future because when quirrell looked into the mirror he saw himself giving the stone to his master....wich he never dose, not yet at least. but he cant because he is dead. unless he somehow cam back from the grave or is a ghost.(but thats good news) or could his master hav changed.

The mirror doesn't tell the future! Remember Quirrell at the near-end of the book? He said he saw himself presenting the stone to Voler, but that never happened!

Yeah. And the stone got destroyed and then Flamed died. I don't know if he is yet, but he will.
Harry saw his family, which are dead, and Ron saw himself be as head boy, quidditch captain with the cup, but Harry's captain .. it's just simple desires the mirros shows. I don't see how it could be the future.

I don't think so.Because harry's parents are dead.Plus,DD said that it doesn't speak the truth.I think it can't.I mean like dumbledore and the socks,He never got the socks he wanted.lol.But seriously ,its true.

Nah it doesn't tell the future. Ron didn't become Quiddich capitain. I don't think Ron will be headboy and didn't Harry say they were'nt going back to Hogwart at the end of the sixth book. Although he did win the Quiddich cup, that's just coinincidence and like zoabella said Dumbledor says the mirror shows your deepest desire. I trust Dumbledor. Although I think he's wrong about Snape...

the mirror does not tell the future the evidence that ron will become what he sees is not solid evidence for one thing Harry said he is not going back to hogwarts and ron and hermy are going where ever he goes the same goes for the quidditch captain and harry is capitan til he leaves if he comes back to hogwarts

Well, first of all the nature of the Mirror of Erised is to show the person whose looking at it to see their deepest desire. It wasn't created to predict the future, but in this case it just might have done that by accident. As you said, he was already made prefect, he is on the quiditch team, they already won the quiditch cup with ron on the team once- whose to say they wont do it again in their seventh year. You have a very good point, but the fact is that the Mirror of Erised doesn't show the future, only what the one whose looking at it wants to see.

As most of us said and Dumbledore mention that the Mirror tells about the deepest desire of a person.

As stated in the book

"Let me explain. The happiest man on earth would be able to use the
Mirror of Erised like a normal mirror, that is, he would look into it
and see himself exactly as he is. Does that help?"
Harry thought. Then he said slowly, "It shows us what we want...
whatever we want..."
"Yes and no," said Dumbledore quietly. "It shows us nothing more or less
than the deepest, most desperate desire of our hearts. You, who have
never known your family, see them standing around you. Ronald Weasley,
who has always been overshadowed by his brothers, sees himself standing
alone, the best of all of them. However, this mirror will give us
neither knowledge or truth. Men have wasted away before it, entranced by
what they have seen, or been driven mad, not knowing if what it shows is
real or even possible.

And the only one I knew that tells the future was Professor Sibyll Trelawney.

Well, yea, the books kind of says it all and the inscription: Erised stra ehru oyt ube cafru oyt on wohsi . From behind (mirror writing) the text says: I show not your face but your heart's desire . So that’s kind of abviously, isn’t it?

[font=Verdana][size=3]I think that the mirror cannot see into the future, but "mirrors" some of the deepest desires of the heart. Harry was drawn to return to the mirror again and sit to commune with his parents..When Dumbledore discovered this he told Harry the mirror posed a danger in that it could take one away from reality, and become addictive. Dumbledore moved the mirror, because of the dangers it posed.

The mirror, as we all know, shows your deepest desire. So I suppose, in a way, it could show the future. If you want something enough, you can make it happen. In Harry's case, it could never really show the future, so it all depends on what you really want in life. If you wanted a certain career, or wanted to be a parent, etc, it could show your future because you are willing to make your desire become reality.

I guess it's possible to tell the future, but for some like Harry, it's impossible.
Sadly. I wish James and Lily could come back alive

The mirror cannot tell the future. Dumbledore himself says that it only shows your deepest desire of your heart. Also it didnt happen Ron was never Quidditch captain or Headboy. Ron would never of became headboy anyway. He has spent to much time in detetion and has broken to many rules.