Just interested to know people's opinions on the new Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie coming out in July! Personally I can't wait to see how Tim Burton has done it because I think he is a fantastic director. Alot of people say that this movie will be nothing compared to the original but I'm not sure. I just think they'll be different. The older one I think is abit "twee". I think the newer one will be more surreal and "Tim Burtony" lol. I think that the newer one will appeal to a great age range than the original, especially with it having Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka - a great actor! Any opinions on this?

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My bro's just posted me the link to the new, really long trailer. The film looks absolutely amazing.

Remembering vividly the orginal and the book, I can't wait to get my hands on a copy/drag someone who can cope with the lack of pride by going to the cinema.

This film should be great..I am told that it will be more like the book because Daul didnt like the first one..which is why Burton is doing it again to try and make it more like the book..I love the original movie it is my favourite classic..but I think this one will be just as good..Gene Wilder doesnt like the idea though..maybe he just knows Jonny Depp will do a better job than him or will do at least as good of a job..and he wants to be the only Willy WOnka lol

Can't wait!!!!! Love Jonny Depp, and Tim Burton, and i'm sure it'll be great.

I love the little song in the trailer, I can't help but do a little dance to it!!!! Can't wait!!!! eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.......

I love the film with Gene Wilder too, the original, and i think i might read the book, i haven't read it in.....oh a long time now, it was read to me i think...


*does a dance in excitment....*

Chewing gum is really gross chewing gum i hat the most.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/charliechocolatefactory/


oh it's Roald Darl, the author of the books.

Thank You!!!!!!!!!! Was it just me or did any one else think Michael jackson? 'I'm inviting five children into my factory'.

That trail has warped my brain!

The Twits, Fantastic Mr Fox, and The Magic Finger were my favourites when I was of the age to read them. I had them on aduio book and everything as far as I remember

Thank you, dazzo for the link...

I think it's great. And my favorite actor is there, Johnny Depp, so I don't really need to worry. I trust his acting ability...

well it was.....it seemed a lil..... it scared me

lol, no it didnt really, i just thought it was kinda creepy. interesting dont get me wrong, but vary creepy.

I actually really want to go and see this! i think it sounds better and looks better then the original film.

I can't wait to see it. The background reminded me of the original, which is sometimes good. Johnny Depp looked sort of cool and scary at the same time. I thought he was hilarious in the commercials.

The new Charlie and the Chocolate Factory looks terrible. The Oompa Loompas don't look anything like the old ones. The first movie from the 1970's is going to be so much better. They shouldn't remake an already good movie.

Come on, dude. Johnny Depp!! Can never go wrong with Johnny Depp.

The first one with Gene Wilder was too...something, wasn't like the book (i've re-read it yay!) Roald Dahl books are really dark, charlie and the choclate factory was about selfish kids.

The oompa Loompas in the first film looked nothing like they do in the books, and the makers admit that. But I think that Johnny Depp will make a much better Willy Wonka than Gene Wilder did. I'm really lookin forward to this movie, in fact, me and my mate are going to see it on opening night and then get the HP book for midnight opening, can't wait!

Then again, every one is entitled to their opinion. But Johnny Depp!

I think Roald Dahl would like thid film cos he didn't like the other one.

In my opinion some things cannot be transferred from book on to film. This movie looks...I dunno...a tad strange.

I read the books, a long time ago. And I know that this version of the movie will be closer to how Dahl wanted it to be. But it seems almost too odd. Johnny Depp looks scary. I don't think I am going to go see this movie in the theaters.

The original movie was a classic. I don't know if I will enjoy this one as much.

I really wanna see the movie, but I wonder if it's gonna be good like the classic and the new Wonka character was suppose to have, like blond curly hair like Gene Wilder did.

lol, although Marilyn Manson is pretty scary, saw him live a few years ago, excellent i might add. Nah, Johnny depp is way better than acting i'd wager than Marilyn.

I was meant to go to see it on fri before we got HP, but she's skint, so we can't

I have complete faith in Tim Burton's abilities, and I'm sure that he will make the movie great! And as Ygraine mentioned, with Johnny Depp, it can't go wrong! I've seen the trailer, and I think it looks great. I've been waiting for this movie for ages, and when I found out it was directed by Tim Burton, Johnny Depp was Willy Wonka, and that Danny Elfman was making the music, I was jumping off the walls IMO, all movies that Burton, Depp and Elfman has worked together on are great, and I have no reason to believe this will be any worse.

I didn't really like the old one though... It might be because I didn't see it anywhere near the time it was released(it was released in the '70ies, right?), and I saw it in an English class two years ago. I hated the fact that the Oompa Loopmas didn't look like they should(orange, weren't they? *shudder*), and it didn't follow the book as I would have wanted it to. I know I shouldn't care about details, and that making a book into a film is difficult and all that, but I don't like it when they put stuff that never should be there in the films. That's my opinion anyway, many others liked the movie. I guess it's hard considering a film you've never even heard of before you were thirteen a classic... But again, that may be only me...

I'm looking forward to the new one though! Unfortunately, it isn't going to come to Norwegian cinemas untill September, so I won't be able to see it untill then

Instead of re-making a movie in which the main character (Willy Wonka, who cares about Charlie?) is already played perfectly, they should make a Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator movie. That would OWN.



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What, am I the only one who thinks Johnny Depp looks girly? He's a fantastic actor (not to mention hot) but he does not look at all like what I would expect Willy Wonka to look like.
Now, I know that by this time "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" is like in theaters and everything but I just wanted to post this anyway. Besides, I haven't watched it even though I really wanted to. The theater is too expensive. I have to wait until it comes out at this theater that only costs $1.50 per seat. But each movie comes out in this theater whenever the movie is actually coming out on VHS and DVD in stores. That's why each seat is only $1.50.

ive seen it, its a great film, weird, thats what made it great. Very funny, though i kept thinking: Micheal Jackson.

Hmm I dont think you can compare the film to the orginal, I think you need to compare it to the book, and I think the latest was more "true" to the book, the orginal- the classic, was far from true to the book.

I do think the first was a classic, and I do love musicals, I grew up on the first one, like most of us here did, so I do have a soft spot for that film.

But I think the new one is completly different, and im glad they didnt copy from the first film, it was very funny, and yes, Johnny Depp played Willy Wonka very well

Omg! Just seen it! It's fantabulous!

*slight spolilers for the film*


'A blueberry? I can't have a blueberry as a daughter? How will she compete?'
'You could put her in a county fair.'

I just cracked up at that, probably the funniest bit in the film, also the bit with the sheep 'I'd rather not talk about that'

Being from well...can't really say it here, a family forum and all, but i think the older ones will guess, that people from where i come are often called something to do with sheep. I think i might have put a rather vulgur twist on it....

I've been to a chocolate factory!

i can safely say that it was perhaps the most enlightly trip of my life!!!

Chocolate facotires are nothing like willy wonkas, it was extremly boring

I think it's a good addition to the first movie but couldn't be a replacement.
Johnny Depp did a good job. The only other time I've seen him is In Pirates of the Carribean and if I hadn't known it was him I would never have been able to tell.
I liked how they showed the kids coming out of the factory.

omg, i practically fainted, when my cousin told that that was johnny depp playing will wonka, he looked so cute in POTC and he looked so weird & pale in this, but i do agree that he acted well. I liked the bit where willy banged his head on the elevator glass, that was pretty stupid & funny.

Johnny Depp was brilliant, as always...but I still like the first one better...
Don't have a good reason why, I just do.
It's more...natural...in this one everything looked so...fake...,I guess

There was this ginormous battle over whether the original "Willy Wonka" was better than the re-made version, and I really have to admit that I like the updated version - and not just because it was a Tim burton film that happened to star Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka.

I really liked the 21 Century feel to the movie - the kids were WAY better actors than the kids in the last movie, and really embraced their roles - I especially loved Violet's character being as snotty and bratty as she was. In the original, the children sang. I disliked that... a lot. Children shouldn't be singing for no real apparent reason. Neither should a grown man. The songs in the original made the movie seem like it was a million hours long. Or something to that awful extent. With just the Oompa Loompas singing, it made the movie more watchable. That fact that they weren't orange didn't ruin any affect either - in fact, for me, it made them (him) more enjoyable to watch.

And just like any movie he is in, Johnny Depp did an amazing job at making the movie quirky and different. A remake was totally unnecessary, and yet, people loved it because of his offbeat Willy Wonka. The flashbacks were a brilliant idea, to actually show why he's so messed up. Tim Burton is genius. The imagery in that movie was spectacular, and like I said, the acting was terrific.

I'm not saying the original was awful or anything, and I didn't mean to make it sound like I thought it was, because it wasn't. That version was really good...for its time. And I know its supposed to be "timeless" and all that, but... everything needs a good revamping every now and again, right?

I thought that Johnny Depp was lol funny..
But I still like the first one better...
Those ompa lompas Scare the **** outta me in the second one..
lol

I thought the new one was better than the old one. Not because of the visual effects but because of the portraying of the characters. I like the new Charlie much better, he seems much more fragile than the blond one from the first one and also, Willy Wonka is much weirder in the book than how it was in the first movie and Johnny Depp did an incredible job.
Besides the new one was made by Tim Burton, I mean, that guy could never go wrong

I've read the book and i find that the old one is much closer to the book. the new one isn't as good, and a bit too weird. I like the old one, it's a classic film The new one just isn't right, i don't like it at all ! sorry! lol
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i agree with everyone who said the first one was better because it truly was

johny depp wasnt that good
hes an alright actor he kinda creeps me out hes like 45

also where was all the songs????????????????

where was the candy man can???????

wheres the song willy sings in the room with everything candy????

why were all the umpa loompas the same person?????

i hated the second one it was terrible

I feel the same way *sigh*
The oompa loompas were seriously freaky, i swear youngsters must have had nightmares for months because of them!!!
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i think that the original charlie and the chocolate factory was the best.

i think that johnny depp was brilliant in the new movie and that tim burton directed well.

i think both were great but the original was way better.

I adore the new version. It's hard to pin down exactly why. Maybe it's because I have a demented sense of humor and this version is completely demented. Maybe because it is so innovative. I do think that the original version is closer to the book, but it is also a dated story--it needed an update. I think Tim Burton spent just as much time on wonderful things to look at, and yet he also managed to give more depth to the individual characters--they're more quirky overall. The only ones I found to be utterly bland and boring were most of the Buckets! I loved Grampa George and his negative quips, and Grandma Georgina's dementia. The rest of the Buckets were dull as paint.

As for Willy Wonka, he's a basket case, which is perfect! He's a candy genius who has willfully secluded himself for ages--of course he will be weird! I've heard people say Johnny Depp did a sort-of Michael Jackson-type character, which in many ways is true--weird asexual hairstyle, out-of-date, overly-fussy fashion sense. But he captured perfectly what guys like that can be like--they think the rules don't apply to them, that they have always been allowed to do things their own way and they've been a success, so it was obviously the right way to do it (even if that isn't true!), and they think normal people are the weird ones!

I loved Deep Roy as the Ooompa Looompas, with his funny hair and his goofy songs and dances. Maybe it's because I saw the 1st film as a kid and loved it, it's because I like this new version now--because I'm not a kid. I don't know. ?? But it was great!

I loved the second movie! Johnie depp was excellent and funny! The first one was too serious. This one was more easy going and mysterious. I wish i owned the chocolate factory! YUM!!

I loved both of them. The original is always - well, it's always the original so in that sense it's my favourite but I love Johnny Depp and I loved the comdeic spin he put on it in the new version. I don't know which one was my favourite .... hard question.

haha, yeah, I have to agree, they looked pretty odd & no-where near how I imagined them to be. I actucally think that the new one is way better than the old...Johnny depp (I admit he looked freakishly pale) but he did do some pretty amazing acting!

The two are almost like completely different movies. The new one is a bit weirder than the original. The bit of childhood added is cool though. It would of been nice to hear Johnny sing (Just like the days of Crybaby).
The original was weird but seemed to have a more actual life feel to it. I seemed like it was somehow possible, unlike the new one which seemed to out of place.

Both were brilliant, but I'd have to say the original is my favorite, and I'm a Johnny fan.

sorry, but did you notice the old version had all the oompa loompas look the same? and they looked so weird and freaky...i know they're supposed to be weird, but what was that? green hair and orange skin? sorry, but that was just ugly...

the old version is completely flop...i mean, i didnt say anything before i watched the old movie...and the other day i watched it...it was a complete disappointment...and i'm not just saying i love the new one because its got Johnny Depp...who cares about the songs anyway? they arent even nice...

of course Johnny Depp was excessively pale, but who cares? it was Johnny Depp was brilliant (as usual) and did what he does best...play weird !! ...plus, it was Tim Burton's movie! it speaks just fine for itself! i really dont know how anyone could say they like the old one better...oh and, did anyone notice that scene in the old one where they get on the boat and cruise on the chocolate stream and the weirdest thing happens! there's a long time while everything goes crazy with screaming and shuddering and gross insects scaring the kids of something! it was so dumb!

honestly, doesnt compare! the new one's far better than the old one...there's just tiny scenes that make a huge difference...the scene where Johnny Depp says how and where he got Oompa Loompas...i love that part! never is a Johnny Depp and Tim Burton movie a let down! never!!!

Nothing can compare to the origanal in my book <3


Sorry, thats just my opinion. I really love the older one the, i think the new ones okay

The new one was great. But the old one is the classic. But I like the boat better in the 2nd film than the first one. The first one creeped me out. I like the omppa loompas songs. LOL. But the first is always the best!


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YEAH I agree with what you said!
It's a tough call though... I mean, classic vs JOHNNY DEPP?? It's like they WANTED us to be confused and not know which to pick!! Haha!
I don't really know which one I prefer, but I LOVE the book, and both movies are really good... so I'm cool with both I guess.

The second one sucks! The umpa lumapas were OK, but no relivance to the everlasting gobstoppers! I loved the cheesy ending of the first one. AND there was knnow songs by WW in the second one!

I don't have a basis for comparison, sadly, because I haven't watched the first one nor read the whole book.

But I really loved the second one! I love Johnny Depp, I love the effects, I love the overall cast, the Oompa-Loompah dances, songs and everything. Johnny was just so great as Willy WOnka. I liked how sarcastic he can be.

But, although I loved him being sarcastic, I think he wasn't supposed to be. I've read some parts of the book and he's supposed to be jolly and happy, isn't he? I'm not sure coz I haven't read it all, though.


Anyway, my point is, I LOVE THE SECOND MOVIE!!! I LOVE JOHNNY DEPP!!!

The actor who played the original Willy Wonka gave me nightmares. Johnny Depp did a marvelous job. The Oompa-Loompas are alot better than the creepy orange things in the first one. It was also very cool to get into the Marvelous Chocolateer's mind and see how he ended up like that. So , I vote for the NEW ONE!