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peaceoflorien
Does anyone have any guesses on what house Hagrid was in while he was at school?
Triad
Gryffindor. Well actually I have no idea but it seems more likely he was in Gryffindor.
Matthew
Moved this to the lounge, since it really didn't fit under Suggestions. And I think we actually have confirmation that Hagrid was in Gryffindor.
peaceoflorien
Awesome, sorry about the wrong area thing.

heh :oops:
FallenSpirit
Eh, I was thinking HufflePuff. :oops: *shrugs* Who knows ...
peaceoflorien
I thought hufflepuff at first too, but hagrid is very brave and loyal. a true gryffindor
Grawpy
He was defiantly in gryffindor but he is stupid enough to be in hufflepuff
peaceoflorien
well not everyone in hufflepuff is stupid, they just dont fit into the other groups.
Priori Incantatem
It really was confirmed on Jo's official website under the Rumours section. And who says Hufflepuffs are stupid? Slytherins can be stupid (perfect examples: Crabbe and Goyle), just as much as Gryffindors can be stupid (well, none of them are exactly examples of stupid, but Neville only has good marks in Herbology. He's not stupid at all, just a little self-conscious).
peaceoflorien
[quote]It really was confirmed on Jo's official website under the Rumours section. And who says Hufflepuffs are stupid? Slytherins can be stupid (perfect examples: Crabbe and Goyle), just as much as Gryffindors can be stupid (well, none of them are exactly examples of stupid, but Neville only has good marks in Herbology. He's not stupid at all, just a little self-conscious).[/quote]


THANK YOU! I completely agree! There are always people who dont fit into the mold perfectly and thats what helga hufflepuff was all about! It doesnt mean they are dim witted or anything, they could just be brave and smart, but obviously the sorting hat cant put them into ravenclaw and griffindor. I'm just really against the stereotype of hufflepuffs.
Priori Incantatem
Yay! A new friend! I love it when people respect the "lesser" houses like me!
peaceoflorien
hehe, well its to be decided which house is the lesser one eh? ::cough:: slytherin ::cough:: =P
Priori Incantatem
Ahh, it's not so much lesser as... more undesirable. biggrin.gif Mind, not all Slytherins are bad, just most of them.
peaceoflorien
yeah, but you name a slytherin that isnt mean or rude or evil in any way and I'll eat the sorting hat. =P
Priori Incantatem
It's a deal! Let the Slytherin-hunting commence!
peaceoflorien
heheh, and what exactly do we do to slytherins once we've caught them? ::looks scared::
DancingVeela
I don't think everyone from slytherin is *evil*... but yeah, I think they mostly have an attitude (and you get some ofthe evil ones..)
Harriet Hornbeam
...Three made rights, and one made wrongs.

I am really interested to know which houses these four were in. I wouldn't have been surprised to see James, Sirius and Remus in either Griffindor or Ravenclaw...but our dearly disgusting friend Peter...wouldn't he have been in Slytherin?

At the beginning of PS, when Hagrid was introducing the more basic aspects of the wizarding world to Harry, he made the comment that 'all wizards that went bad came from Slytherin.' Saying this, he believed at the time that Sirius had turned the Potters into Voldemort; so does this mean that Sirius was indeed a Slytherin, or have either Hagrid or JKR made a mistake? Also, if Peter (who is a power- and protection-seeking coward, always looking for the biggest friends) was in Slytherin how could he have made such close friends with the Gryffindors (or Ravenclaws).
DancingVeela
My impression is that they were Gryffindors.

Harriet Hornbeam
Yes, our impression was that they were in Griffindor...but it was never actually specified. Any more ideas???
NastyShort
Perhaps Harry would've "noticed" in Snape's Worst Memory that Wormtail was not in Gryffindor if he had not been. Also, my impression is that he wasn't so nasty at first, maybe he got terrible later on. How else would he even gotten into a house?
Harriet Hornbeam
I'm not sure how Wormtail would have been placed in Gryffindor. It was my belief that the Sorting Hat could read potential in a person. Also, Wormtail doesn't strike me as nasty, but as snivelling and spineless. I just think he has more the profile of a Slytherin than a Griffindor, and he'll have to have something worthwhile coming up to prove he was in that house, because he is the least brave, and most selfish person in the book. Well, one of at least.
LupariusMurilegus
Didn't JK say they were all in Gryffindor? Or am I making that up...I'm almost positive she did....
Voldemort
Yeah...I think she did. And James and Remus and Sirius knew that Slytherin is full of dark arts, those three hated them, if Peter was in Slytheirn, he wouldn'tve been friends with him.
RASHDAN
peter could have been in gryffindor
hermy
Maybe all four were in Gryffindor, but I really don't understand how james, lupin and sirius were friends of Peter, a strange friendship, I must say.
LuciusMalfoy
Well, we KNOW James was in Gryffindor, I mean, he was the Seeker on their Quidditch team. Lupin might have been in Ravenclaw, seeing as how he was kinda a nerd. And I know Sirius wasn't in Slytherin because he shamed his family by not being just like them, remember? I have no idea about Peter. I think maybe he could have been in Hufflepuff. That's just how he strikes me. Cause he wasn't always evil, at least not in school. Cause he was already friends with some powerful people and then Voldy came along. And I don't remember ever having read that JKR said they were all in Gryffindor. And Lupin could've been in either Ravenclaw or Gryffindor, like Hermione. Maybe, like hermione, his bravery won out and he got put in Gryffindor. Who knows until the next books come out.
Harriet Hornbeam
Peter could have been in Griffindor, but I don't understand why he would have been. He hasn't got any Griffindor qualities at all...
Harriet Hornbeam
I agree Lucius, Lupin, Sirius and James could have all been in either Griffindor or Ravenclaw because they were all brave and smart. However Wormtail was neither, but he was ambitious by making sure he always had the most powerful friends...I'm so confused, it all contradicts.
BellatrixBlack
I agree with NastyShort, if Peter was in Slytherin, Harry would have noticed in Snape's memory. And for them to have been the great friends they were, you would think they were all in the same house. Like Ron, Harry, and Hermione. And Harry had once compared Peter to Neville in book 3, and Neville is in Gryffindor, so Peter could have been in there too.
LuciusMalfoy
Yeah, but Neville is NOT like Peter at all. He doesn't search out for friends that are powerful. It makes me sick to hear Neville being compared to Peter. Even if it was in the book. It's just *shuders* not cool thinking about them having any thing in common. Anyway, as I said we'll find out soon enough what houses they were in. (And I can't wait)
Harriet Hornbeam
No, Peter is not like Neville at all. Neville is timid, but he is still brave. He is able to put his fears aside to do what is right, just like a true Griffindor. However, Peter couldn't even save his own best friends from death and Azkaban he was such a coward. Neville would never do that.
tashluvsdan
QUOTE (Harriet Hornbeam @ Jul 19 2004, 09:10 PM)
Peter could have been in Griffindor, but I don't understand why he would have been. He hasn't got any Griffindor qualities at all...

Yes, I agree that he didn't possess any qualities of a Gryffindor [the ones of which we know, which on the contrary, don't meet those of a Gryffindor]. However, wasn't Harry supposed to be sorted into Slytherin instead of Gryffindor, but he asked or more like wanted to be in Gryffindor so that is where the Sorting Hat placed him..so could that be the case here? That Peter wanted to be in Gryffindor [I'm not certain he is, most likely though] and the Sorting Hat granted that..yea..really loonnnggg explanation..ok..stops here --> =)
severely_severus
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Maybe all four were in Gryffindor, but I really don't understand how james, lupin and sirius were friends of Peter, a strange friendship, I must say.


I think it's possible that James and co. were only friends with Peter because he WORSHIPPED the ground they walked on. I mean, I think it's kind of obvious that James thoroughly enjoyed all the attention he got from his peers... for Quidditch, or otherwise. (ex. in Snape's Worst Memory of OotP when James was playing with the Snitch... letting it fly a little ways away from him and then catching it, over and over again. Peter watched him do this in awe and was cheering.

Why wouldn't James want to be friends with someone who was always marvelling at everything he did? I mean, if he liked the attention, of course he'd want to be friends with people like that. I don't think there was any other reason...

And do you think it's possible that the Sorting Hat sorts people not based on who they are today, but instead on as someone else said earlier on their Potential. What they will be, or could become.

Perhaps Peter was sorted into Gryffindor because the hat *knew* he would become friends with James, and because the hat *knew* that Harry would save his life... maybe because of all these things, the hat put Peter in Gryffindor because at one point the hat knew that Peter would stand up to Lord Voldemort (because of his debt to Harry?), and act as a true Gryffindor should.

If the hat had put Peter in Slytherin, odds are good he never would have become friends with James. Instead he would've been friends with whoever was most powerful in that house, marvelling after their every move and eventually come to work for Lord Voldemort (as he is, more or less now)... if Peter had been put into Slytherin, he never could have betrayed the Potters... and Harry never would have had anything to do with sparing his life. Because of the prophecy, Harry would have had to go up against LV eventually regardless of whether or not his parents had been killed (because of Peter).

**wonders if this is making any sense**
I'll try explaining again.

Because Peter was in put in Gryffindor, he became friends with James, became his secret keeper and eventually betrayed them. Harry spared his life from Sirius/Lupin who were fuming, Peter ran away back to Voldemort to serve him. But since Harry saved him, Peter owes Harry his life. Whereas if he hadn't been put in Gryffindor, and he were put in Slytherin where we'd think he probably is more suited... then Peter might've actually had a chance to become dangerous, and wouldn't have owed Harry anything... and still would have worked for Voldemort.

I think Peter is going to stand up to LV in the end, and make us see why he was put in Gryffindor. That's my theory anyway...
Guest
all right, i remember JK specifically stating they were all in gryffindor, although pettigrew doesnt strike strike you as the bravest person, im sure he was jsut put there for plot purposes.
Harriet Hornbeam
severely_severus: There are some good points. Perhaps there is still time for Pettigrew to become a decent person, though in my opinion he's screwed that all right up. Anyway, does anyone have a link to where JKR said they were all in Gryffindor? I am pretty sure i never read that in the books.
severely_severus
yeah I don't think she ever said it in the books that they were all Gryffindor... I'll take a look for her saying that elsewhere, but I really have no clue.
Harriet Hornbeam
Oh well, another thing we'll all be waiting to find out in the next two books.
Wizardking13
Erm, JKR said they were all in Gryffindor in like some marhc 2004 chat. I don't think it is said in the books. I mean the SLytherins stick together don't they? so if Pettigrew was in SLytherin he probably shoulda been aiding Snape I mean I can't think of a Slytherin that got one extremely well with a Gryffindor.
Harriet Hornbeam
Do you have a link, Wizardking? I'm not going to believe it 'til I see it.
Aaliyah
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Sirius Riddle: What houses were Sirius Black, Remus Lupin, James Potter and Remus Lupin in? Everyone tells me they were all Gryffindor, but I won't believe it unless I hear it from Ms. Rowling herself!
JK Rowling says: This is JK herself saying that they were indeed in Gryffindor!


There you go, that was the quote, but you notice the typo in the question? Remus Lupin appears twice, I think that's why there's confusion. I got the quote from the Mugglenet site.
Wizardking13
WEll the chat transcript is somewhere on Veritaserum Harriet Hornbeam. I am not sure about Pettigrew but positive about the other three. i'll see if I can find the link
Harriet Hornbeam
Aaliyah, yes...there was a typo. Pettigrew was not mentioned in the question. See, I can accept James, Sirius and Remus as all being in Gryffindor bur Peter...it just doesn't fit.
Erin G
Didn't it say in OoP that they were in Gryffindor? After Harry went into Snape's pensieve and Ron won the Quidditch match. They were sitting under the tree by the lake and Ron keeps playing with his hair. It says something like "he was forcefully reminded of four other Gryffindors that sat under this tree" Something like that anyway...

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Naz
how do you guys thik that sirius got into gryffindor? wasnt he related to evil wizards? well he probabaly made a choice like harry did, didnt he?

and what about peter? how did he get into gryffindor if he became so evil?
Louise
Mmm....well, it's evidence really that pure blood doesn't really have anything to do with it then, isn't it? Not really. What it comes down to is what's in your heart and that overrides 'racial' purity.

Gryffindor embodies courage, nobility, self sacrifice and all that kind of thing....Sirius was probably sorted into Gryffindor because there is no doubt whatsoever that he was an extremely brave, courageous man who would have died, if he'd been given the opportunity, for his friends. Maybe he did make a choice, I don't know, but to be honest, I think the harder question to speculate about would be why Pettigrew was sorted into Gryffindor.

I mean, I don't think anyone could argue really that cutting your own hand off takes some guts. Coersion comes into that though..... Voldemort, at that time, wasn't strong enough to have done anything about it if Pettigrew had decided to make a run for it. Although, I guess, there was always the risk that Crouch would have come to finish what Pettigrew started and when Voldemort was restored, Pettigrew was running the risk of LV coming after him again......the upshot of this being that it could equally be considered a cowardly thing to do. I guess it comes down to individual interpretation there.

Maybe Pettigrew has yet to demonstrate the deeply hidden qualities within him that the Sorting Hat saw. There are still two books left to go and Pettigrew was very conspicuous by his absence from OotP, wasn't he?

Goodness or evil doesn't really come into it, I don't think. You can be evil, but still be brave. Likewise, you can be cunning and ambitious but still be a good person. I don't think the idea of the Sorting is meant to be as clear cut as that. The overriding facet of your personality is what the Hat picks up on, I think......

As well as your choices, of course.. wink.gif
Naz
didnt it say in the third book that he was a cowardly boy and he always followed james and sirius? as for sirius, i think that in future books, some of his secrets will be revealed
Anneth
I agree with Dana, a wizard's blood really has no bearing on where the wizard gets sorted. Sirius acted differently from the rest of his family (which is why they disowned him), and his actions showed that he definately was a Gryffindor.

Peter, however, is quite a mystery...I really don't know what to think about him. He seems like a sycophantic coward who is drawn to powerful wizards, but we haven't seen any bravery in him...yet. Or perhaps JKR simply hasn't chosen to reveal an event in the past that shows Peter's 'Gryffindor side'.
RG's Babe
just because Sirius was a pure blood related to dark wizards doesnt mean he has to be in Slytherin. i think that he was in gryffindor cuz he was brave and courageous(sp?).
doomed_renascence
Well, Neville is also known as a timid sort of person, but he was still sorted into Gryffindor nonetheless. He has proven his courage though, so there's no doubt that he belongs there. Just like what Dana said, Peter probably hasn't shown his inner Gyrffindor qualities just yet...but there are two more books to show what he's made out of (95% rat droppings if you ask me).

Sirius was difinitely perfect for Gryffindor. His relatives might have been evil, but not himself (or Tonks and her mother for that matter). He was totally brave and totally loyal to his friends. Pure blood might be commonly stereotyped as evil, but Ron and Neville aren't evil right? (Not yet at least...hahah just kidding)

Anyway, the Sorting Hat is never wrong. It places each and every person whereever they really belong, regardless of what their relatives are like, or what is shown on the surface.
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