Harry, I don't think, is gonna be an Auror. JKR said in a BCC Interview that there'll be NO prequel to Book/Year 7. In book 5 during discussion about Career Discussion with McGonnogal, McGonnogal said it would take 3 years of training and exellent marks on OWL's and NEWT's. Since there will be NO prequel to Year/Book 7, how can JKR tell us that Harry is an Auror at the end of year 7, when he still has 3 years training? Unless she DID tell us that Harry Potter made Auror in his 7th year. I also think that Harry Potter AND Voldemort are both gonna die in book 7. Harry Potter is gonna kill Lord Voldemort, but take himself with him, then Harry Pottter will be known as the perfect Gryffindor hand down, Brave and Noble, that is how he will die, saving everybody. He will be remembered throught the Wizarding World. As the boy who lived, the boy who suffered, the boy who killed Lord Voldemort, the boy who died! This is what I think, tell me what ya think!

Well Voldemort, it's easy to see why YOU would want Harry to die. Just kidding!

I kind of think/hope that Harry might die too....because if he doesn't die than I will still wonder about him. And she said the last chapter would be an epilogue. So it could be like "And Harry became one of the greatest aurors after he finished his auror training..."

lol

but, it wouldn't make much sense though, but it would also fit in. but I think Harry is gonna die, I really hope dumbledore dosent cry, boy I would cry if he did. Dumbledore is like the safety lock to my home. HE keeps the wizarding world in order and keeps them protected JUST like a safety lock to ur house does. Dumbeldore is always there being wise, loving, and caring!

I have mixed feelings about Harry dying. *shudder* If he did become an Auror, it could be included in the epilogue like NastyShort said, or it could be mentioned in the end like "and Harry began his Auror training" or "at least Harry had his Auror training to look forward too" or something along those lines.

Yeah, I guess that would make sense as well ey

oh, the thought of harry dying, and dumbledore crying.
i agree with voldemort.
both harry AND voldemort will die, but harry kills voldemort and goes down with him, also making him an even bigger hero.
i hopre that doesnt sound too bad

Thanks Mimola. I think they both die.

[quote]Harry, I don't think, is gonna be an Auror. JKR said in a BCC Interview that there'll be NO prequel to Book/Year 7. In book 5 during discussion about Career Discussion with McGonnogal, McGonnogal said it would take 3 years of training and exellent marks on OWL's and NEWT's. Since there will be NO prequel to Year/Book 7, how can JKR tell us that Harry is an Auror at the end of year 7, when he still has 3 years training? Unless she DID tell us that Harry Potter made Auror in his 7th year. I also think that Harry Potter AND Voldemort are both gonna die in book 7. Harry Potter is gonna kill Lord Voldemort, but take himself with him, then Harry Pottter will be known as the perfect Gryffindor hand down, Brave and Noble, that is how he will die, saving everybody. He will be remembered throught the Wizarding World. As the boy who lived, the boy who suffered, the boy who killed Lord Voldemort, the boy who died! This is what I think, tell me what ya think![/quote]



you know what voldy...i guess he'll suddenly become good at potions and manage to become an auror....or he'll get into auror training even with a bad potions mark(not likely i stand with my first theory.)

and yes i think like you they'll both die

I absolutely don't think HP will die. There's no point in him becoming a martyr at the end of a series, especially since JK said she's probably not going to write anymore books. It defeats the point of Harry character

RASHIDAN, if you think Harry will die, then he won't be an Auror. If you think he's an Auror/will be, then he won't die.

Um... one question. In the starting post, you said "prequel" to book 7.. prequels happen before a story. Don't you mean "epilogue" or did Jo actually say "prequel"?

I got it off a site, but I'm guessing there is NO epilogue, whoops JK.

There's prequel which is a story that takes place befire the main book, there's sequel which is a seperate story set after the end od the main books and there's epilogue which is like an ending summary within the main book.

Yeah, I doubt there is an epilogue, but possibly.

JKR said the last chapter of Book 7 actually is an epilogue of what happens to the characters that live.

Where did she state this? Link? or what?

Magazine interviews, I have it in a magazine of mine. Don't worry, the epilogue WILL be there.

You have a scanner? Can you sned to me?

Nope, I dun have a scanner. Sorry, but the magazine was "Movie Magic." I don't know which issue it was, but it had a lot of good Harry Potter information in it.

Danget, oh well Baccus. any more news on if u wanna help out on site? Or at least forums? IF you wanna help, I got a good position for you.

I don't know about the epilogue, but here's what I think will happen. Neville will kill Voldemort. Harry will live -- though others (Snape, others) will not. Harry WILL NOT be an Auror. That is the one point I find obvious. This is not becasue he is so bad at potions. (Auror training requires good scores on the Potions NEWT, not exactly on good scores in Potions class) This is because Harry will be the new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. My feeling is that this why it is so hard for Dumbledore to fill this position. And why he continually hires people he knows will not be long for the job (Lockhart, Moody). JKR has purposefully kept open the Dark Arts job for Harry. He's already begun his training. Dumbledore will recognize that it was Harry's teaching that caused Neville to be able to kill Voldemort. The story will end with Harry being offered the job, telling Ron and Hermione about it, Ron saying something about it being cursed, and Harry saying that he figures he can deal with it, since he's already dealt with one curse.
Oh, also, Harry and Ginny will be together, so he won't want to leave school. Hogwarts is Harry's first real home. He won't leave it.
What do you think?

Not to be rude nor to offend you, but did you even read Book 5? It clearly states in the simplest of Texts that Harry, and Harry alone, could kill Tom. Nevile cannot, Moody cannot, Albus Dumbledore cannot. It simply states that, easily recorded. As for Harry being DADA, that is possible.

Mmm...agree with everything you said. Except for Harry possibly becoming DADA teacher. I think JKR has said somewhere that, after all the action Harry has seen, he'd be bored rigid in an academic career, and I have to say that I agree with her.

As for Harry dying...I think that's definately a possibility. Remember the phoenix feather in his wand....dying, rising up from the ashes and all that. Voldermort's already done that, but he left something of himself behind in Harry that, maybe, has allowed him to come back by keeping him, in some way, tied to this world. In order for Voldemort to truly die, Harry has to kill within him the part of Voldemort that survived and he can only do that by dying himself. But then, maybe he can rise again too, just like a phoenix.

Just a thought.....

Good theory. You are pretty smart. I think Harry's power is too strong and will kill him in the process of killing off Tom.

**blushes unashamedly** (Ooh, I'm not going to be able to fit my head through the door soon )

I agree...I think that the strength of Harry's powers certainly seems to be beyond his years...maybe because Voldemort's were too, when he was Harry's age...

lol, fool gots jokes too. lol

Yeah. Although Tom could produce a full killing curse at the age 16. Harry is 15, you think he could? I know I wouldn't lol

Tom had enough hatred within him for his father by then - even though it's not clear why - and that's probably why he could manage the killing curse. I would have thought that Harry was angry enough after the end of OoTP that he could have produced a decent Cruciatus curse though. Maybe it takes more than anger or hatred to make a good curse work. Maybe you have to enjoy it or something too.

I'll just push my way into this con)) Yeah, didn't Bella say that before, or I may actually really be losing my mind!! Anyway, I don't think HP will although that thing with the phoenix is a really neat idea. I just can't see him dying, I mean, I don't see what his death would add to the plot, especially at the end of the book....((say I'm narrow minded all you want Voldy)) But I agree that the phoenix feather and stuff will be very important, I mean, there are at least three major representations of the phoenix in the series

Yes, all of it requires power. And well, MEANING to do it of course as well.

Voldemort, I think it you who should reread Book 5. (In all honesty, I am doing the same thing myself. I've done the whole 5 the last month or so.) I will just refer you to page 842 (of the American version):

"'The odd thing is, Harry,' [Dumbledore] said softly, 'that it may not have meant you at all. Sibyll's prophecy could have applied to two wizard boys, both born at the end of July that year, both of whom had parents in the Order of the Phoenix, both sets of parents having narrowly escaped Voldemort three times. One, of course, was you. The other was Neville Longbottom.'"

Granted, Dumbledore thinks the prophecy is about Harry. And, the prophecy notes that "the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal." But that does not EXACTLY mean that.

I stand by my prediction as to Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. I concede that Dumbledore thinks Harry is the "chosen one," if you will. But I do not concede my feeling that it may just be Neville.

Glad you could resond, though.

What does this have to do with power and spells?

Yes, I do know that Harry is the only one who can kill him. And I HAVe re-read the 5th book. In the past 3 weeks, I've read all 5 books AGAIN. I could prolly tell you the book backwards.

Ooh...please don't start picking on each other...we don't want to lose another thread!!!


Luparius....you're right. I re-read that bit myself the other day, and Bella did say that you have to mean it, and enjoy it too. Personally, I still think that Harry, in that particular moment, would have REALLY meant it, and maybe would even have enjoyed seeing her squirm after what she did. Maybe his love for Sirius and the grief drowned that part out though.

I think too much of his emotion was hatred. Besides, how did he know he was SUPPOSED to mean it?

Well, he didn't, I guess...That's why it didn't work, at least not as it should have. I suppose he just hit out at her with the nastiest curse he could possibly think of at the time, in complete disregard of the legality of his actions. Nothing else mattered to him then.

He's still just a little boy. He wanted Bella to hurt as much as he did at that moment (reason he didn't use AK curse) and at that moment, he definetely wasn't enjoying his pain, he knew she wouldn't either. Since his only thought was of hurting her back, he wasn't enjoying it, therefore, the curse didn't work.

Or am I just blabbing?

No, not at all!! Good point, I hadn't really thought about it like that. He'll have to try harder next time to get the b***h to REALLY feel it!!!

Ooooooo that was cold! XD
i don't think Harry'll ever kill anyone with the AK curse though, not even VT, just because of the fact that I can't see him enjoying killing someone, anyone. He may want to kill them, but I don't think he'd actually enjoy it, eh?

Yeah, I don't think Harry will be able to kill with a curse. Think about PoA. He really wanted to kill Sirius, but couldn't. Yes, he was younger and yes it was a little different, but then again not really.

Explaination:
Sirius (OoP) =Lily and James - Bella killed him
Bella=Sirius (PoA) - Sirius supposedly killed Lily and James

Hope that wasn't too confusing. lol

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"Vice President Nuggler James"

"Threaten him with braces! Throw your retainer at him! Give him a breath mint! For God's sake do something!"

- My not-so-distant past

Yeah, that was a bit confusing...umm...ok

But Harry never actually tried to kill Sirius in PoA

He wanted too, but was hesitant. I now think since he is so filled with rage and two years more power and loads more experience, I think he perfectly well could now do so. Especially Bellatrix Black or Tom Riddle.

This is kind of a big topic to be really getting into here and goes way beyond HP, but hey....

Maybe there's the capacity for violence within every single person on the planet, given the right circumstances, no matter how good or righteous they might consider themselves to be. I don't think anyone can ever truly say that they would never intentionally hurt another person because no one knows what they would do in a particular set of circumstances.

Maybe Harry was hesitant about killing Sirius because the depth of emotion wasn't there for his parents - how can it possibly have been? He never knew them, he is imagining two-dimensional people through memories given to him by other people who, by OoTP, we find out weren't giving Harry the whole truth in the first place. Maybe he stopped Lupin and Sirius killing Pettigrew because he knew that Sirius would never be able to prove his innocence if his only remaining piece of evidence (ie Pettigrew) was killed? Plus it would have gotten Lupin and Sirius into some serious trouble, and you always care more about other people than you do for yourself.

With Riddle and Bellatrix, however, Harry now DOES have REAL emotion behind him. Sirius wasn't just an abstract memory - he was real. Harry loved him and he loved Harry. Harry grieves for him as he has never grieved for anyone. That's the difference.

Harry is a very angry, confused little guy by now. And he has one stinker of a temper. I agree with Voldemort - I think Harry does have it within him now - maybe that's the reason why Sirius had to die - I mean, he has to, doesn't he? Isn't the series going to end with Voldemort's death? Hasn't this been all along what the books were leading to - Harry killing Voldemort?

Or WERE they?.... Mmm.... Maybe JKR has an entirely different ending in mind altogether.....

Oh I definitely agree with you. I most certainly think Harry has the capacity and the WANT to kill VT and Bellatrix, I just don't think he could do it with one of the unforgivable curses because I don't think he would truly enjoy killing them. Revenge is never for fun....

Yeah...the old methods are always the best. Strangle her with his bare hands or something....Sorry, I have such a blood lust, don't I? I just REALLY despise Bella.....

Give her to the Dementors, I say. And make sure they do the kiss really slowly.....

Maybe it's not so much to do with revenge as justice...something poor Sirius never saw in his lifetime.

I disagree Luprais. She said that the Cruciatous Curse requires the want to enjoy it. Never did she say it was needed for the Imperius Curse and the Avada Kedavra curse. Mad-Eye said that Avada Kedavra needed a bit of POWER behind it. BUT, then again, I could be wrong, I just think you need to know HOW to do Imperius Curse, the will to see them in pain for the Cruciatous Curse, and the power to do the Avada Kedavra curse. But, I could be wrong.

The imperius curse may not need enjoyment to perform it because it is reversible. AK is killing, I definitely think it needs that sort of power, enjoyment if you will, because it's closely linked with the cruciatus curse...meh

Plus, when Moody explained it, it wasn't really Moody it was a very insane death eater

Ok Ok I'm sorry. Just thought I'd put that out there...

Anyway, yes it was explained by a very insane Death Eater, but wouldn't he be the one to know?

Yeah, the circumstances are different now. I was wrong and am deeply sorry to waste your time.

He was not insane. He was perfectly aware of what he was doing. He wasn't hiding it, he wasn't going all sick in the mind about it. He knew perfectly well how to do it, and how to teach others to do it. And once again, I do not think that you need the enjoyment of it happening to perform the Avada Kedavra curse.

I agree with Voldemort. Moody wasn't really that insane, and he did know what he was doing. Also, why would you need to enjoy it to preform the AK curse? Harry could preform the curicus(can't spell) curse without really enjoying it or whatever. It may not have been that strong, but he did it. Same with the AK curse, it could be preformed with or without enjoyment. And even if the wizard who preformed it didn't enjoy doing it there's no such thing as a "little dead" is there?

you don't necessarily have to enjoy it.....just WANT it bad enough, you have to really will it to happen. you can't be half-hearted about somethign like that, you have to really have the intention to cause this person pain, whether you enjoy it or not is irrelevant.

But I do not think that those intenitions, those actions are NOT needed for the Killing Curse.