darthsith19
Jun 22 2005, 07:07 PM
Now that James and Sirius are both dead (or so we think) who would you consider the closest father figure to Harry? Yeah, Vernon's actually related to Harry but don't let that mean anything. Who acts most like a father figure to Harry?
Allie
Jun 22 2005, 09:18 PM
Hmm... are you asking for a prediction or who we think is Harry's principal father figure at the moment? I personally would think that Lupin is most likely to evolve into the father role in Harry's life (and based on the poll results, I'm not alone!), but I do think that this is going to take some time and a change in their relationship. I mean, in the beginning of 'Order of the Phoenix,' Harry is still clearly thinking of Lupin as 'Professor Lupin.' He never thought of Sirius as anything but his dad's friend from school, and since he has already known Lupin in a different context, it might take a while for him to accept Lupin as a father. Then again, Harry trusted Lupin before he was even aware of the relationship between the Marauders... I don't know...
It only seems a shame to me that it's starting to look like Harry's basically ditching Hagrid. In the beginning of 'Sorcerer's Stone,' I thought that Hagrid would wind up the main adult figure in Harry's life -- well, who wouldn't, I guess -- but things are falling a little differently for them than I would have initially expected. I think Harry means a lot more to Hagrid than Hagrid means to Harry at this point. At the end of 'Order of the Phoenix,' when Hagrid is clearly trying to comfort Harry and show Harry that just because Sirius is gone it does NOT mean that he is totally alone, Harry walks away without even giving Hagrid a proper goodbye. Yes, you can make an argument that no-one would behave differently under the circumstances, but because Harry is slowly associating Hagrid with so much grief (e.g., Hagrid was also the one who took him away from his parents' house after they were killed), that could change their relationship.
MalfoyH8er
Jun 22 2005, 09:21 PM
Aphrodite
Jun 23 2005, 12:03 AM
Oh, yes Uncle Vernon is definitely warming-up to be that 'fatherly figure' in our young Harry's life...without a doubt...
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Ok, no, I'll stop it

...I'm with everyone else who has voted: Lupin is the person I see in my crystal ball...he has always been that fatherly-like person to Harry I think, though Harry hasn't really noticed. In PoA when we were introduced to Lupin, Harry seemed to take an immediate liking to him. Lupin provided him with a safe haven during the Hogsmeade trips, and could talk to him about his feeling, his mum and dad...ect....but then Sirius came along at the end and the bond was not exactly cut, but I think it could've grown to be more. Sirius was a person who Harry could easily relate to and talk in more detail to, he was his father best mate for goodness sake...but now that he's gone(respected silence

) I think we'll see more of something developing between Lupin and Harry. Once a Marauder always a Marauder (except in the
rat's case...no one like him anyways

)
On what Goldstein said:
You know, I did notice Harry seemed to be drifting away from Hagrid as more adults entered his life. I think it's a shame...Hagrid happiness does seem to depend on Harry's...though I see Hagrid's role expanding in the next books; he's becoming quite a character!
Loony Luna Lovegood
Jun 23 2005, 08:35 AM
HHHMMMM Difficult question, I think that Hagrid has always been there for Harry and Harry being as blind as a bat has never seen just how much he does care.
Hagrid deffinatley shows more of a fatherly love for Harry than the other adults, sure they care about him, but Hagrid seems to treat him as the child he has never had. I think having saved him from the ruins of his house as a baby has had this affect on Hagrid. He feels somehow responsable for the whole thing and so tries to make it up to Harry.
Though I do feel that Harry now looks up to Lupin most as a fatherly figure, but he has never tried to play that role, because to him Harry's happiness is what matters, and lets face it being in the order puts him in permanent danger, and i just think that Lupin could not bare to put Harry back through another loss of a fatherly figure.( Though Lupin CANT die coz he rules. Its just how i think Lupin Looks at The World)
Anyway, I voted for Hagrid, coz i think that he has the most involvement, and fatherly outlook on Harry.
Mew
Jun 23 2005, 02:48 PM
Well I said that Albus was more like his father becasue even though he does not do the holding him and telling secrits about his parints, he cares for him deaply and lets him make mistakes while waching over him the entire time.
m.c.
Jun 23 2005, 02:55 PM
Arthur Weasley is like a father to Harry...
But I believe that Dumbledore is always watching out for him, even before he entered Hogwarts.
Hallia
Jun 23 2005, 04:03 PM
I really wouldn't know who to choose. I guess from now on Arthur and Lupin will take care of him. DD is always there, but is more like a grandfather or something like that
darthsith19
Jun 23 2005, 07:27 PM
Hmm... are you asking for a prediction or who we think is Harry's principal father figure at the moment?
I'm asking who do you think acts most like a father to Harry. Not who do you think will adopt him because he will probably just live with the Dursleys for 2 more years and then get his own house.
Hagrid deffinatley shows more of a fatherly love for Harry than the other adults, sure they care about him, but Hagrid seems to treat him as the child he has never had.
That's a good point. Hagrid definately has great feelings for Harry.
FYI I have not yet voted. Officially Vernon is Harry's guardian but he certainly has no love for Harry and acts nothing like a father to him. I won't vote for Dumbledore because he's more like a really close Professor who watches over Harry but he watches over everyone. He loves Harry and looks after him more than he looks after most students but all the Order members are looking after Harry and as Dumbledore's the leader of the Order he also looks after Harry, but he's not really a father figure. It was between Mr. Weasley and Lupin for me but then read what Loony Luna Lovegood said and it makes sense. Mrs. Weasley is definately the one who acts most like a parent to Harry so that'd make Arthur like a father but Lupin and Harry have always been real close and Lupin looks after Harry alot.
pigwidigon
Jun 23 2005, 09:21 PM
I would say Lupin...he seems the most father like because he was closest to Harrys parents (other than sirius) and he seems to have the closest bond to Harry at the moment...Mr Weasley could end up being like a father figure to harry in the future possibly if something happens to Lupin (which I hope it wont come to that)
Loony Luna Lovegood
Jun 24 2005, 08:34 AM
Oh thanks Darthsith19, im glad to see that finally people listen to my theories.
Yours are some pretty good comments too, But i don't understand the whole Lupin thing. Sure Harry will start to admire him more, but as someone else pointed out, Harry still thinks of Lupin as a proffessor, and has never actually shown any form of fatherly admiration towards Lupin. Yes he admires him, but not as a child would admire a parent.
Lulu
Jun 24 2005, 11:05 AM
I for my part have seen Harry move in with Lupin after book seven. He is now the only living person who was really close to James. And he is the most father acting person in the book who are close to Harry, don't you agree?
And Harry would certainly move in with Lupin if he could, but Lupin isn't very rich, because of what he is, it's very difficult form him to find a job. But Harry has his own gold so it might work.
Loony Luna Lovegood
Jun 24 2005, 12:08 PM
No Lupin is probably the most father acting, but Hagrid shows the emotions that Lupin has never bin able to, and the emotions that Harry needs to see.
Nawrehsuan
Jun 24 2005, 01:28 PM
I voted for Lupin. He is the only person remaining(apart from Wormtail) who was close to James and is the only fatherly figure left for Harry.
DD is there but he is too more of a granfather type of person.
Having said all this, I believe that Hagrid is the person that treats Harry most like his own child.
hippogriffrider21
Jun 24 2005, 04:39 PM
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KittyKat49
Jun 24 2005, 07:50 PM
I voted for Lupin. He's definitely one of my favorite characters right now. I wasn't a big fan of Sirius, Lupin is much more responsible, and I would describe him as kind of a gentler person. He's gone through so much with being a werewolf and what not. I see both Sirius and Hagrid as more irresponsible, and at times reckless (well, you know, when Sirius was alive) and even if Harry never does look to Lupin as a fatherlike figure, he should. I get the feeling that Lupin is a lot wiser than what Harry thinks he is.
By the way, does JK Rowling help write the scripts for the movies. Because if she did, they sure made it seem like Lupin used to be in love with Lily...(well, it was slightly related)
joopjoop
Jun 24 2005, 08:49 PM
i'm thinking Harry's father-figure will be some new character, cause none of the above seem like they will be able to fill the spot that Sirius had.
Dumbledore is, like someone already mentioned, a
grandfather figure, Lupin is just a friend of his father (can you picture Harry hugging Lupin or joking with him? punching him in the arm and giving him a noogie?), Hagrid is Harry's friend. his buddy. his big and hairy pal. definitely not a father-figure. and obviously, Vernon is nothing close to being a father-figure.... more like his landlord (hehe)
or maybe harry will never find another person that will be his father-figure. he had his father (who was killed), he had Sirius (who was also killed), and maybe he's already luckier than most people who have lost their parents; he had a 2nd chance. most likely, he will grow and take his losses to make him something better and wiser.
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darthsith19
Jun 24 2005, 09:58 PM
Harry still thinks of Lupin as a proffessor, and has never actually shown any form of fatherly admiration towards Lupin.Has he shown fatherly admiration towards Hagrid? Dumbledore? Arthur? No. And I doubt he will. he will look to all of them when he needs help but won't act as though either are a father to him. As a matter of fact, he will probably look up to Hagrid the least from now on (other than Vernon, of course). There's no point in denying that Hagrid's the dumbest of the lot (besides Vernon) and Harry will mostly look up to Lupin, Arthur and Dumbledore, me thinks, when he is in trouble or needs help.
Yes he admires him, but not as a child would admire a parent.And he does admire Hagrid as a child would admire a parent? I think not.
He is now the only living person who was really close to James.
Peter Pettigrew was close to James.
[B]And he is the most father acting person in the book who are close to Harry, don't you agree?Hmm... Probably. It's hard to say.
No Lupin is probably the most father acting, but Hagrid shows the emotions that Lupin has never bin able to, and the emotions that Harry needs to see.I agree.
By the way, does JK Rowling help write the scripts for the movies.No
http://www.mugglenet.com/books/futurebooks...kedrumors.shtml(second to last one)
Westerly
Jun 25 2005, 06:43 AM
I think that Lupin has the most potential to emerge into a father-figure for Harry. If not him - then Dumbledore. Arthur just seems irrelevant to me in this respect. He likes Harry etc. and sees him as a good source of information about the Muggle world, and acknowledges Harry as his son's best friend - but I don't see a father-son relationship there.
I think that although Hagrid deeply cares for Harry and takes pride in him, while Harry in turn loves and cares about Hagrid - Harry is also growing up, and possibly even out-growing Hagrid in some respects. (Though not physically of course

) As a result, his eyes are more open to Hagrid's limitations.
Hagrid can be wise, and he can give good advice - but generally the relationship consists of Harry assisting, comforting, covering for or bailing Hagrid out. The parent-child dynamic between them is almost reversed. Hagrid is lovely, but there is also something almost child-like about him, where he has never really grown up. He's loyal and he'd lay his life down for Harry - I have no doubt. Hagrid will always be there (I hope) and they will continue to have a strong emotional bond.
But - Hagrid is becoming and less a person that Harry can refer to for advice over deeper, more complex matters. Hagrid, was an ideal father-figure for Harry the child - but is less so for the young man.
Lupin and Dumbledore on the other hand are more responsible, wordly, and frankly cerebral - and are thus better equipped to help Harry make the transition from adolescent to young adult.
chocobeer
Jun 25 2005, 09:07 AM
i voted for Dumbledore coz he knows it all!! but i guess Lupin would also do...harry cant really take the others suggested because he doesnt consider them close enough to tell him his heart's dearest (or scariest) secrets...but i think Dumbledore's most appropriate...
magically delicious
Jun 25 2005, 07:21 PM
I would say that all of these men are in some ways a father figure to Harry. I think Hagrid cares the most about Harry, but I also think Harry sees Hagrid as more of a good friend. Dumbledore is probably more of a grandfather figure/role model who also cares for Harry. Vernon Dursley is just his legal guardian - there are no emotions there. So it's between Lupin and Mr. Weasley. Although Lupin and Harry are very close, and although Lupin was friends with James, I never got the feeling that Harry saw him as a father...I just think that Harry looks up to and admires Lupin a great deal. He saw him as his father's friend/a great DADA professor. Arthur Weasley, on the other hand, seems the most like a father figure to Harry. Mr. Wealey cares a great deal for Harry and looks after him, and is always available whenever Harry needs him. And he wouldn't be considered a "friend"...so I voted for Mr. Weasley.
gryffin_hauz_88
Jun 26 2005, 07:19 AM
It's a very hard decision and I ended up voting for Mr. Weasley. He's already a father and I think, he did a great job in raising his children. I was about to vote Remus Lupin but he doesn't have any experience on how to be a father.
razzberry2
Jun 26 2005, 12:39 PM
Ok, the question is: Who Is
Most Like A Father?
The answer to me would have to be Dumbledore
Dumbledore watches over Harry, and has done ever since he heard The Prophecy. He openly admits that he cares for Harry so much that it has swayed his ability to make impartial decisions, (like not telling Harry about the prophecy because he didn't want to burden Harry with it when he was younger)
I think maybe people see Dumbledore as more of a grandfather figure because of his age, but put that aside, and you can see how Dumbledore has tried to guide Harry over the years, and has infact made some difficult decisions pertaining to their relationship. (like in tOotP, where he had almost no direct contact with Harry) These kind of selfless acts are befitting a fatherly role. A grandfather would rarely have to make such a sacrifice.
Lupin, although a grand individual, seems hardly cut-out for the role of a dad. He has little if not any experience with kids, (aside from his one year at Hogwarts) and he, himself appears always shabby and pale. I think his life is difficult enough for him without the addeed pressure of an adolescent dependent.
Obviosly, I voted Dumbledore
sara324
Jun 27 2005, 03:17 AM
mrs weasley has always been the mother figure to harry, but not mr weasley. I agree and think Lupins is because he was there for harry in the 3rd year and ever since
dreamt_death
Jun 27 2005, 09:50 AM
It's hard to say... I'd say Lupin for now. I was thinking of Mr. Weasley, but I think Lupin has done alot more for Harry.
DumbledoreistheMaster
Jul 3 2005, 03:43 AM
I think it will be Lupin because he is the only representative of the relationship with his father. Plus Harry trusted Lupin before he even knew that he was one of his fathers friends. I think it's almost better that Harry still thinks of him as a Professor because the main problem Harry had with Sirius was that he considered him as a mixture of father and brother. I don't think he will ever feel the brotherly feeling toward Lupin mainly because Lupin is more mature than Sirius (even though I loved him) and he knows that Harry is not his father and treats him as such.
Karen_ginger
Jul 3 2005, 09:53 AM
I have to say lupin,
qith the exseption of Dumbledore he is the only link back to lilly and james for harry.. he knew his father and mother and lovewd them. He loves harry more than harry is aware of.. Harry and Remus will need each other in HBP i am sure of it
Asfandyar
Jul 3 2005, 10:06 AM
I voted for Lupin because he treats Harry more like a father then anyone else remaining in the book.
Hawxors
Jul 3 2005, 02:38 PM
I say Mr. Weasley is the perfect fatherly rolemodel. Not only does he own a few children of his own. He seems to have taken in an extra one, Harry Potter. I can't say this as being a favour for James Potter because it doesn't say anywhere in the novels that James and Arthur were best friends.
Dumbledor, I cannot see as being a father because..... the way he speaks to harry sometimes, or his attitude. He strikes me to as being the living-alone-forever-and-likes-it-that-way. He looks out for Harry, but to an extent. I never saw him inviting him over to his place for the summer or just for a spot of tea.
Uncle Vernon, well.... I think everyone can agree with me on this when I say. "Oh heck no!".
For the others. They all have fatherly qualities, but just don't have the experience as Mr. Weasley does.
kool kat
Jul 3 2005, 03:42 PM
I guess it would be Dumbledor, because he taught Harry a lot! I mean, most of the time Harry is Dumbledor's number one priority!
Runa
Jul 9 2005, 11:42 PM
I think Lupin would become Harry's father figure. He is, after all, one of James's closest friends, and the last TRUE marauder (Peter should not be considered one, considering what he did) Hagrid, I don't see as a father, but more as a the brother Harry never had.
HP_Fan_Swiss
Jul 10 2005, 07:18 AM
umm... well rather Lupin or Sirius i'm not sure it's so hard to pick

but Sirius is kinda dead so Lupin...
darthsith19
Jul 24 2005, 08:15 PM
Now that Dumbledore is dead please regard this thread as who is most like a father to Harry after Sirius dies [B]but[B] [I]before[I] Dumbledore dies.
After reading all 5 books over and then reading HBP I have finally voted. Not Vernon, he has no love for the boy. Hagrid loves Harry and even started crying when he, Mcgonagall and Dumbledore left him with the Dursleys. Hagrid was also the first friend Harry ever had. However, after reading HBP and seeing the hagrid won't speak to Harry meely because Harry dropped the subject of Care of Magical Creatures... well... would a father be mad just because of that one little thing? No, Hagrids' more like a friend - a really close freind (not as close as Ron or Hermione, though).
Not Lupin, as most have said. Lupin, like Hagrid, cares very much for Harry and is kinda like an Uncle to him, but doesn't really ever take on the role of father for Harry.
Mr. Weasley is kinda like Lupin - he loves Harry as a friend but he doesn't really act like a father to him.
Mcgonagall herself said Dumbledore's bond with Harry was closer than it had ever been with any other student. He escorted Harry to the Burrow and saved Harry's life many times. Harry's hatred with Snape seems even more than his hatred for Bellatrix was (then again, Snape did play a role in killing Harry's parents and is probably Voldemort's most loyal servant). Lastly, after Sirius died Dumbledore took over as Harry's protector, watched over him and all and, despite his age, definately acted most like a father to Harry after Sirius's death. Eeven if he did act more like a Grandfather, well, what's closer to a father a Grandfather or an Uncle?
IndigoLily
Jul 24 2005, 09:12 PM
I was split between Lupin and Dumbledore. But to me, Lupin does seem more of a friend than a father to him, so I voted for Albus.
haydenlvr16
Jul 24 2005, 10:36 PM
i would origanally say sirius, but he is dead now, so i think harry would have to go for someone who was a friend of james, and who new him best. obviously lupin!

(ok this is what i wrote origanaly, but then i read some other posts, and they made me realize that he is kinda more of a friend in certin aspects. so then i might go for dumbledore, but he is still not quite right, im not sure what it is. ) the question is "who is
most like" a father, so i would say professer D, but even still, after james and sirius dieing, i dont think ever will really have a father figure again.
TackleGirl05
Jul 25 2005, 02:21 AM
Well, Mr. Weasley and Lupin for different reasons though. Mr. Weasley because the Weasleys are like the family that Harry never had. Both Arthur and Molly think of him as a son (seriously how could they not really) and they try to protect him but Harry does what he has to do due to the fact that they aren't his parents and they can't really tell him what to do. Lupin will be out of loyalty and respect of James and Sirius.
Lady Oymre
Jul 25 2005, 10:56 AM
Some of this post refers to things that happened in HBP, so if you haven't read it you may not want to read on.
I think in book 7 we'll see Lupin become more of a father figure. I think after Sirius died he didn't want to step right into the role because Harry was still mourning Sirius and of course Lupin wasn't around much and couldn't even send letters to Harry, I think he was reluctant aswell incase he died and Harry lost another father figure.
He almost stepped into the role at Christmas in HBP. He's the one that Harry goes to to ask questions, like about the half blood prince and Lupin is the one who gets up to go with Harry when Scrimgeourwants to talk to him.
So I think that in book 7 he will become Harry's father figure, even more than Sirius because although Harry wanted him to be his father figure Sirius treated him more like a brother or a best friend.
Nick
Jul 25 2005, 11:03 AM
I personally would love to believe that , but with everything that will be happening in book 7, i dont think they will have much time together, especially if Lupins still trying to turn the werewolfs, and Harrys of scouring the counrty for the Horcruxs.
I think Harrys reached the point in his life at the moment where hes realised that help is there from others if he needs it, and I think that Lupin would be the first person he would go to, but he seems to be on this sole mission to save the world, but I think he'll need the help in the end
Dumbledore's_Hat
Jul 25 2005, 12:00 PM
I don't really know where I stand on this topic, but I'll put forward some theories anyway...
Lupin: I don't think so. He's too busy with the werewolves at the moment, and seems a bit detached. He will also be with Tonks, so won't have much time for Harry, I think more of a mentor towards Harry.
Hagrid: Seems just a really close, almost older brotherly/protective bond, this could be the closest to a father, but not quite.
Dumbledore: He seemed like a beautiful guardian angel looking over Harry, but more that than a father. More of a wise grandfather.
Mr. Weasley: is only there to tell Harry of the danger's he shouldn't get into
I think that Harry is very much on his own now that Sirius and Dumbledore have gone. As far as I could see, it was only those two that had a strong bond with Harry.
headmaster_dippet24
Jul 27 2005, 04:16 AM
I will say Lupin because Dumbledore is dead now. Lupin said in the OotP that mrs.weasley wasn't the only one that cared about Harry.
weasley wizard wheezes
Jul 27 2005, 06:19 AM
even though he is dead I'd say sirius was the best father figur Harry ever hand and no one will replace that.
RABH
Aug 4 2005, 01:15 AM
It's weird but to most fatherly would be Hermione! She is the one responsible with the always reproching look. But as a parent she also break the rules and then tell you that it was bad!
Profesor Talaway (spell bad...) sead that she had the heart of an old made
Hermione's freak
Jan 23 2006, 11:17 AM
i don't know.....i think it'd be lupin cause he was also one of James potter's friends and also kind and cares about harry, i guess. i wouldn't choose Mr. Weasley cause Mrs. Weasley cares more about harry but she certainly can't be a 'father' as she's a woman.
marauder5
Jan 24 2006, 08:05 AM
I think the best was Sirius Black

I miss him so much,
Padfoot313
Feb 3 2006, 05:44 PM
Since DD is now gone, I went with Hagrid. In fact, DD wasn't a father figure he was more of a mentor. Lupin isn't around enough and isn't the biggest family guy. Hagrid however, loves Harry to death. TReats him like a son, lets him know what is going on (even after hie initially refuses) and is very protective of him. To me those are fatherlty qualities.
SerafinaPekkala
Feb 4 2006, 01:06 PM
I think Arthur Weasley is the closest to a father Harry has now, the whole family are very close to him, Arthur accompanys him to his hearing, he worries about Harry and tells him about Sirius to protect him, and the Burrow is th nearest thing to a
family home Harry has ever known. Lupin and Dumbledore will always be his teachers, Hagrid is irresponsible (in most instances Harry is taking care of Hagrid instead of the other way around) and Vernon doesn't even need serious consideration.
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luckyfish
Feb 6 2006, 07:37 AM
I would have to say that Hagrid is more like a father than anything else because he is always looking out for Harry and he was the one that fetched Harry when he was supposed to start at Hogwarts!But I must admit that Lupin an DD are also like fathers to harry but they are second to Hagrid!
LilyPotter
Jun 6 2006, 08:06 PM
I think Arthur is most like a father to Harry. While Lupin is an excellent teacher and a trustworthy confidant, Harry seems to think of him more like a friend. We already know that Harry thinks of Mrs. Weasley in the motherly way, so Mr. Weasley would be the likely fatherly choice, given that Harry has lost both his father and Sirius.
*pretty in punk*
Jun 16 2006, 12:51 AM
It was between Mr. Weasly and Reamus. I think Mr. Weasly is a bit more fatherly over Harry, but it doesn't show that much as I would expect it to be.
xXhApOcHiCxX
Jun 17 2006, 04:38 AM
i would have to say that remus lupin was a father figure to harry while sirrius jsut looked for his old buddy in harry whic is of course james. remus lupin knew and acted liek a father toawrds harry.