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Esrb99
Bloomsbury (UK Publishers released three E-Cards. one shows and ENLARDED image of the Ring.

user posted image

http://www.bloomsbury.com/images/ecard/HP6_ring_ecard_m.gif

note in the URL, they AS WELL call it a ring... (well duh!)

However, in the ring, there seems to be some design, that is seprated/broken/covered up by the Crack/lightning bolt.

Anyone else got thoughts on this one?

~Esrb99~
django
the ring means that either volodemort or slytherin will die... i think. it shows a serpent being struck by lightning and the two people that come in mind when i say serpent are voldemort and slytherin. the ring must mean that one of the two will die...but obviously slytherin died so his heir (voldie) will die. unless the ring is gryffindors. that would mean that slytherin would die, and he did, so the ring is useless. hopefull, it isn't gryffindors. so that would mean that voldemort has to die, unless there is another heir of slytherin? mabye slytherin's wife(who could that be?) would become of importance.
Louise
I don't know whether I've been watching too many classics or something lately, but the first thing that sprang to mind when I saw that was 'Fall of the House of Slytherin'...tongue.gif

Really interesting find though, Esrb....got to give it to you, mate....so interesting actually that I think I'll pin this one for you because I think this has some good potential.

So the ring has some connection the HBP and obviously bringing down Slytherin in some way....which still brings me back to Godric Gryffindor....maybe this is the connection that JKR mentioned between the two books?

The shape of Harry's scar we've known has always been more important than the fact that he has it, and I don't think that the crack in the ring being the same shape as the scar is a coincidence. It seems to suggest that Harry was always meant to be the one to bring down Slytherin's heir despite what the prophecy said and implies that there's even more to the connection between him and Voldemort than we've heard of so far.

Mmm....the plot doth indeed thicken....tongue.gif

BTW, I've edited the topic title so that people have a better idea of what we're talking about here...wink.gif
Quality Quidditch Supplies
Yeah, I like that first theory, except I'll modify it a bit.

In order to make all things fit with Godric being the HBP, I'm thinking that django was right in saying it has something to do with the defeat of Slytherin/Voldemort, but I think that the lightning bolt on the front is a crack. This said, the ring would be old, and could have had something to do with the original defeat of Slytherin.

That would then back up the Godric Gryffindor camp quite well. wink.gif

At least now we know that the ring isn't just some decoration like a few people were saying, eh? tongue.gif
razzberry2

Nice clear picture of the ring.

It looks like an S on a shield or as said possibly a snake, either way it has to have something to do with Slytherin. I'm re-reading CoS right now, so maybe something will click when I get to the chamber. If it does I'll be sure and let you know. tongue.gif

In the mean time, the ring may have belonged to Salazar and it's possible that it is an heir loom of the house of Slytherin, in which case I want to know how it comes to light in HBP. ohmy.gif

Arrrrgh! mad.gif The days are getting longer, I swear!
kneazle190
in the fifth year didnt the sorting hat's song say something about the houses need to stay strong together...i wonder if this ring has something to do with slytherin being separated from the rest of the houses by a crack...that looks like harry scar...so maybe harry had something to do with them being separated from them...im going to look at the covers to see if you can see if DD or harry is wearing a ring
passerby
What if the ring is sort of like a crystal ball? What if who owns the ring isn't as important as what appears in it, like it tells the future, or something? Maybe it is enchanted to show the wearer something about what will happen in his/her life.
Amy_Marie
Hmm...I have never seen this picture. That's interesting.

1. There is the lightening bolt on it which obviously signifies Harry.

:::::Looking back now, I don't think that is a lightening bolt. It looks like a CRACK....A sort of division. It looks more like a crack than a lightening bolt.:::::::


2. Behind it, there seems to be some sort of shield or coat of arms. It almost looks like Slytherin. Could this be the downfall of Slytherin? Or just Voldemort. And maybe it is the coat of arms for Hogwarts? The downfall of Hogwarts? Far stretch I know, but why would it be Slytherin in particular. If it was Slytherin I suppose it could satisfy the Godric Gryffindor/Half blood prince theory.

But, just as important as what is on the ring, is who it belongs to.
Here are my ideas:

1. It belongs to Harry
2. It belongs to Voldemort
3. It belongs to the Half Blood Prince
4. It isn't a real thing, just a metaphor.

The metaphor thing seems the most likely. Who would own a ring with that symbol on it? But if IS a metaphor...why a ring?

What do you folks think?
Stina
Ok, hows this for a theory!

It was Voldemorts ring and he was wearing it when he tried to kill Harry so it got cracked in the same shape as Harry's scar.

And in CoS Harry learns that Voldemort transferred some of his powers to Harry, but perhaps some of Harry's powers were transferred into the ring!

Maybe that power is the ability to love and because Voldemort can't stand love the ring becomes his downfall.

It may sound a bit far-fetched, but oh well, its just a thought!

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Mattio
Maybe Voldie looks at the ring and dies in 7 days tongue.gif

No but seriously I like the idea the person above me gave smile.gif Sounds like it'd make sense. Maybe that is what D.D and Harry are looking for (The diff. covers make it look like a search for sometihng). Maybe that thing isnt a pensive but what is holding the ring
Hermione_Resilda
QUOTE (Stina @ Jun 27 2005, 10:55 PM)
Ok, hows this for a theory!

It was Voldemorts ring and he was wearing it when he tried to kill Harry so it got cracked in the same shape as Harry's scar.

And in CoS Harry learns that Voldemort transferred some of his powers to Harry, but perhaps some of Harry's powers were transferred into the ring!

Maybe that power is the ability to love and because Voldemort can't stand love the ring becomes his downfall.

It may sound a bit far-fetched, but oh well, its just a thought!

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Hmm..it's possible. So, when Harry wears the ring, it means that he can kill Voldemort, and use love into to kill Voldemort. Really good, maybe more than love was transferred into the ring, and so Harry can use Voldemort's powers against him.
Superfan_Harry
I really like the theory that the ring was Voldemorts and he was wearing it when he tried to kill harry! Excellent thought, lol, where do you come up with these things??
Stina
Its called an imagination!

And it just clicked like some things do. And it actually seemed logical and sort of plausible!

But we'll soon find out if it is a good theory or a stupid theory!

16 days, 21 hours, 51 mins to go, yay!

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Bandoth
Check over at Mugglenet editorials! They've got a nice featured editorial on this. The person who wrote it thinks that it points to Seamus being the HBP due to him being the only one out of Slytherin to wear a ring in PoA movie. Remember JKR saying something was hidden there in PoA?

Also, I've just realized something! To me, it looks like it is a Slytherin "badge" if you will. I first thought that it meant that the lightning bolt was splitting Slytherin (Now I see it could mean Harry rallying some of the people in Slytherin against Voldy), but then I thought further... to an old thing I haven't been debating about much.

The Changeling Hypothesis!

The heir of Slytherin being split in essence by the lightning bolt! Something left unresolved for almost 16 years! Perhaps HBP is really when we find out I've been right all along? Perhaps this is the time I won't eat my words? Or will I?
dreamforest
ok, theres a clear lighning bolt, and what looks like maybe a snake, and a door in the back... maybe the department of mysteries?
Ghost
QUOTE (Bandoth @ Jun 28 2005, 07:20 PM)
Check over at Mugglenet editorials! They've got a nice featured editorial on this. The person who wrote it thinks that it points to Seamus being the HBP due to him being the only one out of Slytherin to wear a ring in PoA movie. Remember JKR saying something was hidden there in PoA?


One little problem with that, Seamus isn't in Slytherin, he's in Grffindor.

Now about the ring. To me it looks more like a crack than a lighting bolt, so basically like it wasn't originally suppose to be there. Maybe it cracked when Voldemort tried to kill Harry like Stina suggested. But the background doesn't look like anything to me, except a swirling design.
Bandoth
Looks like you didn't look at the editorial then. Perhaps I should put a direct link in... Nah, I'm too lazy. The editorial says that the fact that he does where a ring points to the possibility of him being the HBP by stating the possibility of him being in league with the Slytherins... or something like that. Just take a look over there.
rainie
I think that maybe the ring belongs to the half blood prince. the serpent might symbolise that the guy(half blood prince) was in Hogwarts and was in Slytherin but unlike others he might actually be a good friend of both voldemort and dumbledore but more royal to dumbledore and he might reveal infos about voldemort to harry and dumbledore and help them defeat voldemort
electricacidho
Just like everyone else, the first thing I saw was what looked like a shield with a snake on it behind the lightening bolt. I wont bore you all with my theories because it pretty much goes along with everyone. I am also now thoroughly convinced that the HBP is Godric Gryffindor and that Harry is the one who was meant to defeat Voldemort.
Hermione_Resilda
No, not everyone. When I first saw the ring, I saw two very, very skinny arms with big, fat hands holding something that looked like a balloon... I tried very hard to see a lightning bolt, but couldn't. Anyway, that doesn't really matter.
As for what Rainie said, it's possible; he could be another spy like Snape..

Ohh, now I see it! I still see the two hands though..
ClaudiaSnape
I think the ring is a lightning, like harry's scar and it's another gift from James.

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Raiden2
Does thing ring appear on one of the HBP covers either?
Because I didn't saw it in any of them
Louise
Erm....I'm not quite sure what you mean there.

If you're asking where the ring is, it's a small picture on the spine of the British Children's Edition cover. It's also on the e-card that Esrb mentioned in his first post. You can find the images in the VTM galleries.
secretkeeper
This ring could be what they find on that Pilliar on the American cover. Now mods this starts off topic but let me explain.

Perhaps the pilliar and the bowl on top is not a penisive but where this ring has been left for someone to find. You wonder who that could be, the HBP and who ever that is is the heir to GG. We all know that GG and SS had there big conflict but since the heir of Slytherin is at large why couldn't GG's heir be able to fight Voldermort? So if this ring is of any importance then it would be used for good and not evil.
Winduu
you see the thing is i have discovered something that may have to do with the ring or be a coincidence...the last chapter of the chamber of secrets states"The serpents* parted* as the wall cracked* open*, the halves slid smoothly out of site, and Harry, shaking from head to toe walked inside." This could have to do with the ring greatly but then again not at all.... i stumbled upon this about 10 mins a go just looking over the chapter......not to mention is it convienant that harry pull out the sword in the chamber of secrets? Which Salazar Slytherin created...I think purhaps Godric Gryffindor left something in the Chamber or else that the ring was Salazar Slytherin's and was cracked by A battle with Godric Gryfinndor? After all does it say anywhere that Godric Gryfinndor or Salazar died of natural causes? Then again maybe the ring was the source of Salazar Slytherins power or the Power of the Chamber? Basalisk? From what i have seen anyway what secrets were in the Chamber???? All yet to be revelaed i believe anyway.......I do no though that this is all farfetched hahhahah

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eye of the snake
OK here it goes!
My theorie about this is that it only represents the division of one being in two ( this case Voldemort represented by the S or snake) Harry represented by the crack shaped like lightingbolt is what came out of this division.
As we all know Voldemort passed some of his qualities to Harry and harry has also passed some of his qualities to him (his mothers prtection) so the both lost and gained something like in a circle, a ring.... rolleyes.gif

my other theorie is that the ring represents Voldemorts and harries bond and the fact that its cracked by a thunderboltt represents that Harry will be the one to sever this bond in other words to come out victorious from the coming battle.

Hope you think my theories are good

Bye biggrin.gif
magic is real!!
OK, so the ring has a crack on it shaped like a lightning bolt, (symbolizing harry's scar) over a slytherin/voldemort shield. So maybe it's like when in OotP Dumbledore looks at his silver instruments and sees the snake then says, "but in essence divided?" maybe the crack down the shield means in essence divided. well, we'll know soon. but the days aren't getting shorter.
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rogue_290
Okay, at first, the crack in the ring did look like a lightning bolt to me, meaning Harry's scar, but loook at the ways its drawn.....the square/rectangle in the back that someone mistook for a door is the cutting of the diamond. If it really was to be Harry's lightning scar, wouldn't it follow the shape of the diamond? I think it is a crack. The ring's broken

And someone else quoted when Dumbledore says "In essence divided." What if that means that the //House of Slytherin// is divided. The students may be divided in their opinions of Voldemort and the war and everything,

This is just what I thought of after reading eveything you guys just said. I could be wrong though, I plan to read through all the books again to freshen up my memory, but right now my theories are all by ear.
razzberry2
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And someone else quoted when Dumbledore says "In essence divided." What if that means that the //House of Slytherin// is divided. The students may be divided in their opinions of Voldemort and the war and everything,


Can I expand on that theory a bit? unsure.gif

As I was reading through some of the replies, and it might fit that there will be a devision of the Slytherin House, represented by the crack that looks remarkably like Harry's scar. Harry being the divider.

The chapter title that has been released 'Draco's Detour' may possibly tie in with this? I cant think that Draco will 'come to the good side', (at least not yet) but surely there are students in Slytherin who do not hold with the ideals of Voldemort's eutopia. huh.gif Jk has never implied that all kids who enter Slytherin are inherently evil has she?

Could be that when the war touches Hogwarts, (as the newly released back cover would suggest) there will be a dividing of the house of Slytherin and at the same time, finally a uniting of all the other houses? wink.gif
Fayt
i agree with that, not sure if malfoy goes good but on the case that the ring means that they have divided, perhaps the slytherins have something to do with the dark mark at hogwarts
Amy_Marie
I think that Razzberry's theory, it seems the most likely. Not everyone in Slytherin is evil...are they? Look at Snape, he turned out to work for the order (even though he was evil beforehand...). But then again, what person from Slytherin turned out nicely? It seems like Slytherin is a sign of evil. Death Eaters went there, evil Voldemort did when he was Tom Riddle.

But that still leaves the question...is the ring an actual item? Is it simply a metaphor (this is unlikely, because what does a ring signify?)? And who does it belong to?

Going along with that theory...Does it belong to Dumbledore? Who else would own a ring showing something like that? Or is it Voldemort's ring? He is likely to have a ring with a serpent on it...and it breaks?

Perhaps it signifies the breaking of Voldemort? It can't be a coincidence that there is a lightening bolt shaped crack going through the banner of Slytherin.

I am just bringing up more questions, I am afraid.
Malfoys_Laydee
I'm thinking that the ring could belong to the heir of Slytherin, good old Voldy! Thus the symbol of a snake. I could definately see Voldemort adorning himself with a ring like that anyway! blink.gif

Now in my opinion the that is a lightning bolt which signifies Harry's scar. wink.gif

Put it together and what have you got....Harry bringing about the fall of Voldemort!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAY tongue.gif

But.......surely that's not going to happen in the sixth book? Or will Book seven be a huge epilogue? lol smile.gif

This makes me think that it's all alot more complicated than it looks and that what I've said is probably a load of rubbish biggrin.gif

Apologies if I'm just repeating somethinh for the hundreth time.... ph34r.gif
edgarharold
i wrote a whole editorial on Mugglenet about the ring adn how its the clue from the POA film - ONLY Seamus and the Slytherins are wearing them. check it out. laugh.gif
Mr Cruciatus
It is logical that the ring and Harry Potter are linked together.

If that is the case Harry may kill Voldemort in this book 6 and fight the death eater in book 7.

If the ring saved Harry it may signify Voldemorts death in this book. If Voldemort does actually die there is no going back...

If Dumbledore does die it will be down to Harry's Fault and the ring only protrectimng Harry. Dumbledores Death will be a massive accident and very silly loss to everyone. sad.gif

Hopefully Voldemort will Die in this book though I cant see Harry Becoming that pwoerful in a years time. He will need to start Auror Training to kill him. biggrin.gif
kneazle190
well if the ring is a symbol instead of something that is actually in the book heres some ideas...
a ring usually shows unity (wedding ring)
or something coming in full circle
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In the middle and latter part of the Roman civilization the type of ring worn was governed by law. Iron rings were worn by the mass of the people; gold rings were reserved for those of civil or military rank.

i no the romans didnt have princes...but could the gold ring be the HBP's?
Amy_Marie
In reply to what knzeazle said-
That is actually a very interesting bit of information. Because that links along with the metaphor idea. So perhaps it does signify the breaking of the Slytherin house afterall?

Because a ring with a Slytherin sheild (supposing that is what it is) on it would signify unity, yes? And then the breaking of it would probably mean the seperating of Slytherin. I know that there is already a thread on that subject, so I won't take that any farther.

But perhaps we are on to something.
Czar
I was just checking out Mugglenet, and saw something I managed to miss: Harry is wearing a ring in one of the new pictures that came out. Now, is it the ring, the one spoken of in this thread? Could be. Wouldn't really make sense for it to be any other ring. Interestingly enough, the rest of the pictures make it impossible to determine if the ring is on those as well, but it is a safe assumption, I think, that Harry is wearing it on all the covers we are about to see on Saturday. I think it is beyond doubt that the ring is Harry's, at least it is in his possession now, likely from Dumbledore himself, since they share three of four covers.

Also, why wasn't the ring on the official release of the US cover? Is it a spoiler? What exactly is it spoiling? I want answers!!

(A note to the hardworking, busy mods: My apologies if that last bit was a bit off topic, however, I found it relevant to the topic at hand. I will save ya'll some trouble and put this post almost verbatim in the US cover thread.)
Dark_Lady
Er, hi. I've never posted here before, so my apologies if I am doing it incorrectly.
I just wanted to say I like the theory of it being Voldemort's ring, but wouldn't that be just a little too much of a Lord of the Rings rip off?
It could be just a metaphor. . . But I think that unlikely. The covers of the previous books show things actually in the book.
So, I guess I don't know. . . Wow, what a waste of time that was.
vol2mort
This ring thing is obviously something important.
the cover of the book changes on amazon to add add only this... detail.
And now there is an Ecard with the ring.

The ring is probably important in the book 6.
In the COS book do they talk about a ring of Godrik Grinfindor?
kermer
after looking at all of the photos of the cover from amazon, i see no ring at all except for that one photo.. i wonder if this is just a mistake or what.. i enlarged the other pictures as well--trying to find that elusive ring.. but to no avail.

all of the theories are really good--but i particularily like the one about voldy wearing it when he tried to kill harry, and then the one with seamus. they both warrant another read of the books and watch of the movies. not like i mind.. biggrin.gif

i cant remember anything about Godric's ring--i thought he only had a sword. could be wrong though!
vol2mort
and there is the ring again in the cover UK:
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/images/covers/hb...overbloomsb.jpg
Amy_Marie
Yeah, I just noticed the ring on Harry's finger as well- looking through another thread. Thanks for pointing that out, though!

This really makes no sense, if we are all sticking with the theory that the ring has a picture of the Slytherin Crest in the background. Why on earth would Harry have a ring like that? I can think of no reason why Harry would possess something that symbolizes Slytherin...unless there is some sort of power in it.

Looking at the picture, it certainly seems as if he is wearing a ring. Now, I don't think it would be coincidence that Harry is seemingly wearing a ring...and a ring is appearing on the cover of the books. Obviously it is important to the story.

Now, assuming this picture isn't a fake:

1. The Ring could have belonged to someone Harry knew. For example, Sirius could have owned it. This would describe the whole Slytherin thing (Sirius would own stuff like that). He could have kept it to remember Sirius by.
2. It has some sort of power to protect him against Voldemort...or to help him defeat Voldemort.

Hmm...this opens up a whole new line of questions, doesn't it?

And for all of you who don't know here is the link to the picture of Harry wearing the ring Right Here
Spider
Could that be the Black Crest?Dosent Sirius say something about a heavy ring which belonged to his father in OotP
tb42893
I think the ring belongs to the half blood prince, Salazar Slytherin because I think that they are going to find the ring when Dumbledore takes Harry to learn key information about the four founders that will help Harry defeat Voldemort.
Anglophile92
Spider,
you beat me to it!
i think it is the black crest...
when i was reading the 5th book again i read it and thought so as well.
rogue_290
Okay, I've seen the added ring on the one image posted on veritaserum, but I went to check Amazon.com too and the cover there doesn't have it. Are we sure this thing is real and not digitally altered?

And in my last post I mentioned the quote from Dumbledore "in essence divded". I only said it because someone else had mentioned it on this thread, but I just read where it was mentioned in OotP last nght, and I take back what I said. It was used in a different context. Dumbledore was talking about the night Harry saw Mr. Weasley get bitten from the view of the snake. Dumbledore was talking about how Voldemort and Nagini were "in essence divided" But yea, just thought I should maybe mention that.
Mr Cruciatus
Funny actually I was looking at that same thing last night as well. It was that thing Chapter Eye of the Snake in OoTP, that I think relates to the RING ON THE COVER as well as Harrys scar on his forehead. biggrin.gif
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