Well?

Dumbledore said there was a room in the Department of Mysteries that is always locked, and inside, there is a force so strong, so powerful... that's what brought Harry to save Sirius and yet drives people mad.

A real long time ago, a rumor started that the book 6 title would be HP and the Alchemist's Cell. I doubt it is the title, but may have something to do with the book. Alchemistry is the study of gold and how to turn metals and other substances into gold.

Perhaps, whatever's behind that door, is something so valuable(like gold, in a way) (love?) and is worth so much, it's secrets are inside the room.

Those who don't have love go mad... ? Can anyone catch my drift?

hmmm... yes... if it is love, harry can lure voldemort into the room and defeat him there!!

^ Right. Cuz Voldemort has no love and won't either. It's what saved Harry from his death when he was a year old.

um...its obviously love. DD talked about how voldemort never understood this blah, blah blah. its love thatll save harry at the end it think. lots of storge love (lol)

*nods in understanding*

Parental love? Wow, who's his wife? x.x

lol

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i think that its (obviously) love.
as said before, its one of the things that voldemort doesnt feel, or ever will feel.
plus, it made him lose almost all of his power.

I think, there is nothing spacial in this room. It's just like Chamber of Secrets: legends, monster, mystery. And in reality? One Basilisk who killed only one girl, though it lived hundreds of years...

[size=9]It is obviously Love because it can drive you mad and it is something beautiful. Maybe in the future Harry will master Occlumency and can go inside Voldemort's mind and make him go into the room.

Love? Do you really believe it exists? :? If yes, can it be locked anywhere?

That does make sense, I agree. But I do NOT think that Harry could lure Voldemort to the room, because for one, you can't exactly breese through the door, and two, Voldemort probably could not go into the room in the first place because Dumbledore said on page 843 in OOtP that the power in the Department of Mysteries is something that Voldemort will never have. It would probably kill him before he even went near the door =) Oooh but that raises another question: If Harry finds out how to get through the door, will he definately lure Voldemort to it? =D

Sorry to swim against the tide, but couldn't it possibly be hate?

Everytime I read that part, I would imagine an empty room, that when Voldemort entered it would send ripples of air waves towards him. You know like when something is going at the speed of sound and if you watch it in slow motion you can see ripples as it breaks the barrier. Yeah, that's all I can think of. And then Voldemort would just collapse in death. Well, it really makes you think, eh?

Going with the whole alchemists' cell thing...could it be possible that Voldemort has a heart of lead and the room will turn it into one of gold, aaahhh, how sweet...Gag me!

That Is a good theory about the room being filled with hate because it's unique, but Voldemort understands hate and hate really isnt something beautiful.

[I][FONT=Arial][SIZE=7]I think you're right about that, but we won't know until the 6th and 7th books...I dunno, to tell you the truth, I'm actually quite clueless on that.

Talk about reviving threads.. .

anyway - i think theres a slight chance it could be a feather, and voldys going to try tickle harry to death

<Trying to ignore the feather comment...>

Well, here is my weird, eccentric take on things.

Firstly, we know that Harry is the only person that can kill Lord Voldemort. However, what if Lord Voldemort returned somehow in Tom Marvolo Riddle?...Now then, this would be a complete twist of things. How does love play in to this, you ask?...Well, love can possible "cure" Tom Riddle of his "evilness." When I talk of Lord Voldemort returning to Tom Riddle, I talk not about Time Turners or those instruments. Instead, it would be only Lord Voldemort becoming weaker. That way, neither Harry nor Voldemort would die.

Wow, that completely veered away from the topic. Anyway, to get back onto the beaten path...

Well, I agree how you cannot put love into a room...(not talking about Love Potions)...however, you could possibly inflict some other emotional sensation on a person, such as fear. I'm kind of sketchy on these details, so pardon my randomness.

well as dumbledore said in PoA 'this is magic at its deepest' something could occur like that in book six.

dont forget, magic isnt all about waving wands and casting spells many things are magic that can not be explained not even in the potter world because love like harrys mother gave to him is stronger than any spell. Love like that just doesnt go away. in the books dumbledore said that voldemort could not understand or handle love. in the fourth book with harrys blood in the potion it gave voldemort the protection of love so it will be interesting to see if that is his downfall.

I think...and alot of people agree...that what is behind that locked door is...love. I mean, DD said that it was what saved Harry that night and that night when Voldy possessed him, he said something about DD killing him so that he could see Sirius again and as his heart filled with emotion for Sirius, Voldy left him. Voldy can't stand to be in a body so full of love because he detests love and also, nobody had it for him. If you listen closely to what DD says and follow the clues...you'll see that it is love, for more ideas, e-mail me.

You're right, you can't lock up love, but if you think about it, love has always been a mystery. Could that be why it has its own place in the DoM? Perhaps the fact of it being a mystery will lure Voldemort into the room...if there is one. I've got a feeling that Voldemort does not like the idea of something he doesn't know about. Voldemort doesn't understand love, so wouldn't that in a way drive him to try to find it and maybe, perhaps destroy it? Love, he has probably realised by now, is what's bringing everyone together and the reason why people will and are rising up against him.

yes...somebody agree's with me

hi
i rekon the power behind the door is a 'force' not prone to little human emotions.. its bigger and neautral, but can only be weilded by one who has the capacity, and that capacity comes from human nature- love, courage. hate is too small to understand something like that. fear keeps you too small to begin to understand it.
harry already has it inside him, it's more like an instinct. the locked door at DoM is simply wizards trying to harness/conatin it, but it flows freely anyway.
harry zapped uncle in start of oder of phoenix, at the window.
we already know that harry has connection with something stronger- love, and his emotions save him when he is possessed by V at the end.

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that room in dom that is always kept lock......
well, that's really a big mystery for me!
(of course it's the department of mysteries! )
and i'm really curious what's behind that door!

you got a point! that "love" could probably behind that door!
harry knows how to love & voldemort don't
as i've remembered, dumbledore said that the one inside that door
is harry's weapon and that is harry's heart!
heart........
come and think of it! it's none other than love!

well, we better wait for the HBP maybe the answer is there or probably the seventh book!

I also thought it could be love while reading OoTP last night. You know in FS/CC Quirrel couldn't touch Harry while Voldemort was possesing him. Dumbledore told Harry when he woke up in the hosptal wing that Quirrel couldn't touch Harry because of Harry's mother. When Harry asked why Dumbledor said it was because she sacrificed her selves to save Harry and that that cind of things leaves markings, not the scar but ut was in Harry very skind. Harry asked what it was and Dumbledore said it was 'love'.

In OoTP Voldemort din't manage to posses Harry because of the power he has, and that is that power in the locked rom in the Department of mysteries. This I reckon must me love, because Voldemort doesn't know to love, and that's why he couldn't posses Harry in OOTP or either touch him in FS/CC.
Harry really knows how to love because all his relatives who loved him died by the hand of a man who you almost could considder as no more human, So Harry really, really loves the one he loves, and the love becomes even stronger because of all his suffering, poor, poor Harry. He really is a strong person.

shes alredy done alchemy, and the philonajers stone was destroyed so thats a definite no no

maybe this room doesnt hold anything... if you get my drift.

because human intelligence is so low and even the wizard intelligence is low maybe whatever is in the room is beyond the likes of any man.

my theory is it being like heaven in there. it is something so perfect that it is nothing that the human or wizard race can imagine.

like it will have something much more fantastic thing thatn colour. its a place with nothing except absolute perfection. im sorry if you dont understand me so if you dont email me and ill put it in a much clearer form

I totally see what you are saying...it would be like the garden of Eden or something...a perfect utopia...but wouldnt the be the perfect place for Harry to defeat Voldemort?? because if he bring Voldemort there he (Voldemort) would not be able to handle this...and Harry being so filled with love would be so powerful in this room Voldemort wouldnt have a chance to kill harry because his defence would be so low and Harry's would be at the highest point we have seen so far...maybe that is where Harrys parents and Sirrius, Cedric ect are as well and they will give HArry the extra push he needs to defeat Voldemort?? kind of like a heaven for Wizards??

i have no idea wot u av just said, but im sure it was very clever

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In less of a ramble...all I am saying is maybe the room is like a wizard heaven or somewhere that Harry will be very powerful...so if it IS something like that harry will be very powerful and Voldemort, who does not know the power of love, will be very weak, therefore if this room will make Harry strong and Voldemort weak it would be the perfect place for Harry to defeat him. Hope this clears it up

What if the force held in the DoM is fear really? Sorry, but I just think love would be too obvious...

Voldemort knows no fear.
And the force that drove Harry to go and save Sirius was fear also. He feared Sirius would get hurt or killed...
Harry is full of fear. In fact he fears fear most, that is why boggarts turn into Dementors when he's around.
A person with a lot of fear in his mind behaves different from a person who knows no fear. This person would go by instict for one, but then again use its brain also... well, I somehow can't put it in words - hope you still understand what I mean.
Knowing no fear makes you stuck up - and you will fall deep.

_see_ you,

Flutterflie (with a very feary posting)

Wow! Great theory Flutterflie! I never thought of it that way! But how can Harry defeat V with fear? Then again, how can Harry defeat V with love? Wait, is it said anywhere Harry will vanquish V with whatever's behind the door?

Maybe this place is where Harry will finally have to battle it out with Voldemort. This room might be a room of love or hate, I guess we will just have to wait and find out in the next two books.

I think the room in the DoM may be full of love, but I don't think, that there'll be the final battle. I think Rowling will write something totally different or.... she always has surprises

i think i have to disagree with flutterflie coz voldeomrt does have fear. Dumbledore is the only one he feared, so although voldemort doesnt have much fear, he does have fear.
And i was wondering that maybe the room is the room on the cover of the HBP where dubmbledore and harry are looking into the pensieve

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I'm not sure about Harry luring Voldemort into a room in the Department of Mysteries. I doubt Voldemort would fall for that, but it's certainly possible. As for love being what's contained in the room, you've got my attention. I definitely think that if Harry defeats Voldemort in the end, he'll do it with the help of love, because we already know that love can defeat Voldemort. And with Harry's friends helping him, I think their goodness will outweigh the evil of Voldemort (and the Death Eaters.)

Very interesting theories we have here! My theory: This locked room will be a huge thing in either book 6 or 7 (or both). I think the force that is held within will be what allows Harry to defeat Voldemort.

I always thought (and I know I have posted this somewhere else) that there is some connection between this locked door and why it is so important Harry has his mothers eyes.

Do I think this force is love? not really. I am not trying to get all philisophical (too bad I cant spell it, eh?)...but I think love has allready been used as a theme in these books. I think JKR has used a variety of themes such as love and loyalty and I dont really think she will use them again. I mean, we all know that Harry's parents loved him..so i just cant picture JKR making a huge deal of all of that again (although I think she will revisit that theme again)...I think that whatever is locked behind that door is a force that cannot be summed up into one simple word or idea. I think it something much more complex...

does this make sense?

Hmmm....reading through all of these comments has triggered a possibble theory in my mind.

I too wonder how you can lock love in a room, so maybe the fact that it is love is the obvious thing, and the mystery is how it's been harnessed??

If you think of the veil which Sirius fell through, people seem to think that was death behind it, so isn't it also possible there is a device behind the locked room that harnesses love?

If so, then maybe depending on what form it takes, it could be a valuable weapon in fighting Voldemort? As most people have already stated here, Voldemort has no capacity to love and yet he now has Harry's blood running through his veins. Maybe they will tie in somehow.

As you can see, I am desperately seeking answers, so I make them up myself!

Very interesting theory Razz. It could well be true. Voldemort could not abide in Harry's body when love for Sirius filled his being. Now what if there was a container or receptacle for pure love. That would be a very strong weapon against Voldemort... wouldn't it?

Like, something holding love in it? I don't really see how that's possible, but, so would someone just open the container and throw it at Voldemort because it contains love? So then love would get inside Voldemort.. Hmm, dunno. Possibly, like the room.

Ok, fair point Hermione_Resilda, but when I said something that harnesses love, I wasn't thinking in terms of something as simplistic as a container.

My thought is that it will have the form of something far more useful. What that is, I dont know, nothing bogus like a typical weapon as we might know it. Maybe a symbolic talisman, or even a person? I really dont know.

It's a very vague ambition of mine to get one of the HBP theories right, so I'm going to keep trudging on.

Thanks for the support Firenze.

Maybe that's what the HBP is for!... Maybe he's the something that holds love. Well, most everyone hold love, but maybe the HBP has the love to defeat Voldemort. But that's not really possible...since Harry's the one.. *shrugs*
Yeah, a talisman makes more sense.

Maybe hidden inside it isn't exactly a material weapon, but rather... a person that could be a weapon. Maybe that's what the Half Blood Prince is about, maybe that's what the book is about.

Or maybe, it is something powerful because it lets you bring back the dead, maybe the people inside the veil of the department of mysteries... Who knows.

well, the love thing could work, because you arn't human if you don't love! but how harry will use it i don't know!

Could the Mirror of Erised in the 1st Book be in there? The Mirror of Erised must probably hold a deep, strange power in order for it to reflect one's desire. The 'new home' Dumbledore mentioned could probably be the Department of Mysteries.

i think....no one except a very powerful wizard can open that locked door that dumbledore mentioned. i think the only way to open that door is if one opens it from the inside. that veil at the DoM is the only entrance to that door and there's no need for harry to lure voldemort there, LURE voldemort? yeah right. harry wil have to trick him or force him to go through that veil, thats prolly the only way. anyway, loads of ppl who loves harry (parents, godfather, dumbledore (?) have gone through that veil so all these ppl would be able to help/show harry the way OUT...out through that powerful locked door. dumbledore mentioned that love is the most powerful thing....and love (or all his loved ones) wil save harry once again and wil get him out of there. (that is to say, if he WANTS to get out.)

dumbledore mentioned his 'brillliant/wonderufl' plans to harry many times...the death of sirius and his own death he could have prevented, after all, he's a very very powerful wizard, im sure he've tweaked time several times in the past and he couldve done so again for sirius' death... but i dont think he'd want to do that...every death have been meaningful, even his own. he already know wot wil happen to harry and he knows he's got to be there right in the action when that happens. errr, its prolly through that veil :B

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since only a powerful wizard can open the door, so voldemort might want to go there to retrieve something. voldemort is obviously the most powerful wizard since dumbledore's passing, so only he can open the door. with it being described as so incredible, it is doubtful what it truly is has been referenced in the first 6 books. i think that it will contain the opposite of the veil, which represents death. it will be like heaven, similar to the mirror, but more powerful so what you actually want appears with you to touch.