razzberry2
Jul 5 2005, 11:32 AM
During an interview back in March 2001 for BBC 'Red Nose Day' online, Jk was asked;
If you could travel to Hogwarts for an hour, what would you do there?she answered
Go straight into a certain room, mentioned in book four, which has certain magical properties Harry hasn't discovered yet.I immediately thought of the room of requirement. So, I wondered why Jk would go
straight there, it must be able to manifest something of great importance to her. Then I remembered how she had once said if she could go back in time she would talk to her mother again before she died and tell her about her life now.
Maybe the reason she would rush off to the room of requirement is because it can manifest a spirit of the dead that can be interacted with if the seeker requires it?
EDIT: I'm not saying the room can literally resurrect the dead, (that would be macabre) but there may be a way you can bring back their essence or echo so you can interact with them, which has already been done to a small extent with Voldemorts wand in the graveyard in GoF. Note I use the word 'manifest', not 'bring back to life'.Maybe the room will be used by Harry in book 6?
Cubed
Jul 5 2005, 05:00 PM
Nice idea but I seriously doubt you could use the room to bring people back, though the room JK mentions she would go to probley be the room of requirement.
The reasons I think that the room cant be used to bring people back are:
1) It has already been stated in the books that "no spell can reawaken the dead" (Dumbledore, GoF), and the room must have been created from a spell etc so....
2) Also if the room could bring the dead back to life it would ruin the story slightly: "oh well Harry thought, Tonks and Lupin jut died saving my life better go to the room of requirement and bring them back, and while I'm at it I think Credic, Sirius and my parents should come back too...." see my point?
therearethree
Jul 5 2005, 07:14 PM
This sort of scenario would also be borderline necromancy, and considering that JKR is a Church of Scotland Presbyterian, something tells me that she would find the prospect of Harry attempting to bring back the dead thoroughly repugnant. This is not to say that he may not be tempted to try various occult means of contacting Sirius, but learning to resist the lure of the false promises of dark magic will probably be what he most needs, not the wish-fulfillment of getting his godfather back.
razzberry2
Jul 5 2005, 08:39 PM
Sorry people, see the edit at the end of my post, I wasn't really very clear about my thoughts...
El Verte Veritas
Jul 5 2005, 09:31 PM
What if the room she was talking about wasn't the Room of Requirement...? I just reread Book 1 and 2 so I think I'll read book 4 now...Too bad only 11 days to do so!
Hermione_Resilda
Jul 5 2005, 09:40 PM
It probably was the RoR; I don't see how she can put another room in their with the same, basic use..
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| I should make myself clearer, I'm not saying the room can literally resurrect the dead, (that would be macabre) but there may be a way you can bring back their essence or echo so you can interact with them, which has already been done to a small extent with Voldemorts wand in the graveyard in GoF. I use the word manifest, not 'bring back to life' |
That's more like it, the world would be even more full of people if you could just bring people back to life..
Even so, I don't think that could happen. If so, why doesn't anyone, like Dumbledore, tell Harry? Or that may be because he himself doesn't know much about the room, as he said he didn't even know it existed in the fourth book..
traz-ak
Jul 6 2005, 07:19 AM
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| Or that may be because he himself doesn't know much about the room, as he said he didn't even know it existed in the fourth book.. |
There are times that I'm not so sure we can take Dumbledore's words entirely at face value. When he mentioned the room of requirement in GoF, it is entirely possible that he didn't really know all about the room or how it worked. But it's also entirely possible that he was just casually planting the information in Harry's mind in the form of an amusing anecdote, as even though I know he wasn't speaking directly to Harry at that point, he probably did know that Harry could hear him. Dumbledore often behaves in such wonderfully subtle ways. He usually knows a lot more than he lets on about things, and I suspect that his mention of the RoR in GoF could easily have been one of those times.
As far as the RoR being able to manifest dead people somehow... I think it's an interesting thought. It could have true potential. Or if not the RoR, perhaps someplace else. But I think it may be a possibility that Harry may at least go searching for ways to contact the dead now. Whether or not he'll be successful... I don't really know, but it is an intriguing notion at the very least.
RJ_Vanna_sen
Jul 6 2005, 08:24 AM
Why couldn't be the RoR the chamber with the pensieve on the cover of the sixth book? Just thinking.. oh no.. there is a boat..so there must be a secret entrance under teh castle!...
oh i am off topic..
But actually the Room of R. could be indeed very important in the sixth book... but the slytherin know that the chamber excists... they found the parchment, didn't they?
RJ
Snapelover
Jul 6 2005, 12:42 PM
This a most interesting idea. Think of the 2-way mirrors and the Viel and every other possible means of contacting people living or dead. It might be possible, after reading the end of OotP that Harry will try different things in order to learn more about death and how to contact them. He may very well conjur the RoR for just that purpose. But if he walked by it three times thinking about contacting a dead person, say Sirius, what would he find when he opened the door? Another Veil? Another mirror? J.K. has some interesting ideas and if DD can enlist the help of Hogwarts' past headmasters from picture frames, then Harry may be able to learn how to contact the dead from the RoR. Well...I am rambling now. Just my excitment of the possibilities!
razzberry2
Jul 8 2005, 03:04 AM
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| Dumbledore often behaves in such wonderfully subtle ways. He usually knows a lot more than he lets on about things, and I suspect that his mention of the RoR in GoF could easily have been one of those times. |
This is the sort of thing that made me wonder about the power of the room of requirement. When Harry used it in OotP, he required it for the specific purpose of using it to hold DADA meetings. What would happen if he approached it when he was in desperate need to talk to Lily or James, or as said, Sirius? Especially as some people are of the opinion that Jk says Sirius is supposed to make an appearence in the future? (though he is dead)
kermer
Jul 12 2005, 06:14 PM
i think that it's an extrememly plausable theory.. coming up in these next two year, harry is sure to require some piece of knowledge that sirius or his parents have, so just like razzberry said, i think sirius will come back somehow..
if it can't manifest the actual person, maybe it can give them the next best thing, like what they needed to know, or what object they need from that person.. i dont know, maybe it can yield the mirror for harry?
ahh who knows..
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