O.k. I have an idea. Since were only a couple daysaway from the book I will put all my ideas for every chapter in here, until July 15. I'll put 4-5 chapters in here each day. Then included will be polls where you guys can judge the ideas. Here goes:

Chapter 1-
Since this Chapter was supposed to be used in Books 1,3,5 I find it fairly obvious what its about. Sirius Black. Those are his most important books. Or at least in Book 1 he was named. So in this Chapter Rowling will include the night of the Potters deaths, in order to clear up the plot. The plot will obviously include Harry removing Voldemort from himself. That idea I'll go into later though.... I think this chapter will be important ffor ttwo reasons: 1. To find out more about Sirius, since his death was an important part of the book. Rowling had siad that Sirius's death was needed. Maybe this chapter will foreshadow why. 2. To find out a few of the shadowy areas, like why Sirius gave the job to Peter or where Hagrid was at that time, and maybe why the place was called Godrics Hollow.

So heres the poll for CHapter 1
How will this night be shown?:
1. Harrys will dream about it similiar to how Chapter 1 occured in Book 4.
2. Rowling will just describe it.
3. I don't think this is what will happen in CHapter one, if chosen please include what you think will happen in this Chapter.

Just so that the mod's don't send me to the forum iabout Chapter 1, I have to say that more chapters will be popping in through today , Chapter 2 will be particularly long. And as a treat for all, a poll will also occur in each one, sometimes more than one... Thanks.

Well no takers yet, and 12:30 was my official Chapter 2 Pop-Up time, so here is:

Chapter 2 will open up to Harry's life and how things are going at Privet Drive ever since the warning at the end of book five. It will also explain DudleysDementor. Which I'm sure is either when he discovered Harry was a wizard or when he figured out what his mom was.

Poll 2
Would Dudley's Dementor most likely be...
1. Harry becoming a wizard
2. Figuring out what his mom is.

THen Spinners End. This is one of three things. It either is what Aunt Petunia is. And she ends up finishing, or ending, whatever Spinners do. Or it is a reference to the Sneakoscope detecting Petunia doing something untrustworthy. Or it is a place, and most likely where the Weasleys, Harry, and Hermione will vacation.

Poll 3
CHapter 2 ends with....
"It's mom shes, shes a a a...", sputtered Dudley.
"Spit it out", said Harry.
"Shes a A SPINNER!"


or...

Harry could't believe that by tommorow he would be in Romania with the weasley's, Hermione, and even Hagrid. And with final thoughts of how this would be a much bbetter summer than last year, the boy who lived fell into a deep sleep

zMy bet is that the Twins get enough money from their shop and the Weasleys inherit Sirius's money, so that they can get a trip to see Charlie. And on this trip I bet we get to see an old friend, Norbert.

This is getting upsetting, I thought this forum would be good fun. But I guess not. Aw well, heres my third post, which will explain chapters 3-5.

Chapter 3 will be either called Petunias Truth or something like that, or else Dragons and Brothers. It will explain Percy's return to his family, and we'll get to see the Weasley's together and happy. It will also include the trip their explaining how the family gets htere. Floo Powder is getting old isn't it. And brooms would last tooo long. SO I'm betting we get to see a new forrm of transportation. THat brings us to Poll ...4 I believe.

HOw will Harry reach his destination(wherever he goes other than the Dursleys')?
1. Floo Powder
2. A Creature
3. The Flying Car comes back.
4. Brooms
5. THe minister lends Mr. Weasley a Car.
6. A new Form of Transportation.

Chapter 4 will be titled something along the lines of Meeting An Old Friend. It will be when we get to see thedragons that Charlie keeps, also including Norbert. We may even get to see that Norbert has a family. So Poll number 5&6 incidently.

5. If Harry does go to Romania, will Hagrid come with to see Norbert?
1. no
2.yes

6. Will Norbert recognize the following?
1. Hagrid
2.Harry
3. Ron
4.Hermione
5. A mix of the above characters, if chosen please tell which ones.


Chapter 5 will include Harry going back to the Burrow, and I can't think of a name for that Caper. So you can guess at that one, maybe THE NEW Burrow..I think this will be chapter when Harry comes back to his angry mode with Ron, when he starts to see alll of the stuff that Sirius left to their family. So Poll # 7, last one for today.


7. Will Ron inherit anything useful for the later plot from Sirius?
1. Yes, something that may even bring Sirius back to life. Perhaps he will get the mirror.
2. No, other than money.
3. I don't think he'd be uselful, but maybe he'd get Kreecher the house elf...

Well thats all for today, tomorrow will include Draco's Detour and CHapters 6 - 10. I hope you enjoyed.

Nothing Yet!!!. If there are no replies for this by Monday, I'm going to have to ask the mod's to shut it down, and stop this embarrasment.

Chapter 6 - Draco's Detour.

In this chapter Harry and company go to Diagon Alley to get what they need for school this year, which will include books for the new DADA teacher, and supplies for NEWT classes.

Then later in this chapter Harry and Ron go to F&G joke shop and see Draco going into Knockturn Alley, and to find out what he does they will follow. Thats why this is called Dracos Detour.

So Poll for this Chapter

Will Ron and Harry see F&G joke shop?
1. no
2. yes

Chapter 7 - The Hogwarts Trip

This will be about getting back on the train and seeing Fleur Delacour. Fleur will be teaching Potions which will explain to Harry why he got into NEWT Potions. There will not be a poll for this chapter but a discussion on what this chapter should be called.

Chapter 8 - The Ministers Request's
This will be when the normal sorting occurs with DD and the announcements, which will include any new rules that the new minister may set for the school. Another discussion will include what the Ministers new rules may be...

Chapter 9 - NEWT Classes
This chapter will be about new classes. These will include Potions with Fleur and DADA with Snape. Some of the advanced spells and potions will be introduced, and maybe some of tem will foreshadow what spells or potions will be used later when in need. The poll for this is...

Will Snape be a better DADA teacher than a Potions?
1.Yes
2.No
3.He'll still be in potions.

Chapter 10 - In light of recent events...

In this chapter we'll see Grawp and what Hagrid plans to do with him, which may include finding him a "lady-friend", also we'll hear about some freak accidents that are occuring to symbolize Voldemorts return.

Will we see Grawp this early on, or even hear about him?

1.Yes.
2.No.

Well thats all for today folks, this is starting to get harder, I'm telling you. And for all these edits and hard work, I better see some responds tomorrow!!!

Ok, this is absolutely foolish. I conclude that I will put this last edit here, and wait for two things. This will either be my last edit, or someone will have to put something down. Well here is...

Chapter 11 - The New Quidditch Team

This will be when the New Quidditch Captain will be introduced, which will include Ginny becoming the new Quidditch Captain. She may or may not keep Ron as Keeper. So thats the poll...

Will the new captain remove any of the team mates, if so who?

1. yes
2.no


Chapter 12 - Human Transfiguration
This chapter will include McGonnagals first lesson in Human Transfiguration, which will happen in the students sixth year. The question is what will they be transforming into... Since nearly a million choices could be made, what they transform into will be clearly a discussion and not a poll.

Chapter 13 - Quidditch and Plans
This will be the first Quidditch match of the season and will also be when Hagrid tells Harry, Ron, and Hermione to watch for Grawp when he goes to find him a "lady-friend".

So heres a poll...
Will the Gryffindor's win their first match?

1. yes
2. no

Chapter 14 - Felix Felicis

This will be when Hagrids replacement shows up, and his name will be Felix Felicis. Felix is character X, and he will also be part of the order. The question is this...

Will Felix be as dangerous as Hagrid during lessons?

1. yes
2. no

I also believe that Felix will become very important to the plot...

Chapter 15 - Training Grawp

In this chapter DD will find Harry and tell him that he plans to help Harry to train Grawp, and thats the scene on the Deluxe Edition, and what will confuse us all in this chapter is that Sirius's knife will be in the Forbidden Forest....

So heres the last poll/discussion for today ( and perhaps my last )

Will Grawp know who Dumbledore is?
1. yes
2. no
3. DD will never know about Grawp.

So goodbye and pleeease post!

These are pretty good. I think Grawp will recognize Dumbledore. If you're still doing this on Monday, I'll vote then on other stuff. Oh yeah, I think Spinners End is a place like you said. I like the idea of them going to Romania. I don't think the Weasleys will inherit all of Sirius's stuff. Not too sure about the knife. I thought it melted in the Department of Mysteries.

Hey! Don't ask to close this down! This is original, not embarassing. What's embarassing is the fact you want it closed. You have to be patient. When I started my Changeling Hypothesis thread, I had to wait for a few days to get a few people looking at it (it also helped that people weren't this excited about the book coming out so soon). Now it's been dead for months and I've been trying to get it back up for the last week or so... with no success. People are just looking at the multitude of other HBP threads out there, so you can't expect them to reply right away after just a few hours. Whenever I'm on, there's a max of 20 registered people on, and that's in the evening!

Anyway, I think you've got a good thing going. There's just one thing I think you forgot... or maybe two or three... First is less important: Portkeys. That's getting to be the new fad in the HP books, eh? Not to mention that only Ministry officials can track them. Second: Do you really think that Harry is going to leave Britain, out of DD's all-seeing/iron-fist-ruling/scheming gaze? Just because the books take place in Britain doesn't mean that Voldemort's strength is reduced to it... though I doubt we'll hear much of the rest of the world... which is why I think Harry won't go to Romania. I don't have time for the polls right now, but I think I'll be back... sooner or later... probably later... Later!

I guess it would be harder to leave the country. I don't think he's going to go back and change his story. If he did, it wouldn't change much except those few chapters which don't have much of an affect on his story. Also, Bandroth, I liked you changeling theory; but I don't get how it could be possible.

Yeah this is a good idea. Dont worry more people will respond. Personally I have a hard time thinking that Harry will leave the country. I think that if Harry goes anywhere he will be heavly guarded at all times (by more then just the Weasley's). Now that Voldimort is active again I think he will be trying anything to get at Harry. So i doubt Romania is an option (though good idea, I just dont think its the right one).

now as far as your polls go

1. I think that Harry is going to remember it through a "vision" Voldimort may use a pensive to explore that night to search for any missing details that may help him. And perhaps Harry will visit his mind like he did when he had the vision of the snake attacking Mr. Weasley.

2. Are we sure that we are going to find out what Dudley's worst fear is?..... But on the off chance that we do I think his worst memory is going to be when he has given his pigs tail. Considering, whenever he has an incounter with any magic user he is petrified and walks around with his hands covering his butt.

3. I havent really got any good ideas about spinners end... Each idea is as unlikly as the next..... But I do think "Spinners" has something to do with Petunia.

4. I think that he will most likly use a port key. In the OOTP, the only reason why they didnt use a port key to transport Harry was because they had to fear the ministry learning they set up a unauthorized port key.(I dont have my book with me so i dont have the exact quotation. But if you want to look it up It's right before The Order takes harry on brooms to Sirius's house.... I think they are in the kitchen at that point... I could be wrong). Anyhow I think he will be traveling by portkey as it is the safest mode of transportation.


Arg...Ill do the rest later but I need to get back to work. But thats atleast my opinions on the first few polls.

I agree, a portkey is the most likely use.

Ok im back and Im going to continue from where I left off in my last post.....

5-6 Again, I doubt that they will be going to Romania as I already explained.

7. I guess my first question is why would the Weasley's get anything of Sirius's? Everything I think would go to Harry most likly... Now Harry may choose to give the Weasley's Sirius's gold... But i doubt it... The Weasley's would never accept it anyway.... Unless I seriously missed something I dont think the Weasley's get anything from Sirius....

Draco's detour maybe the whole knockturn alley... that would make sense considering the capters position in the book... As far is Harry/R/H visiting F/G shop I think that is a must.

Now back at school. I think your right that DD will explain some of the new rules... Probably, he will tell everyone that all the educational decrees from the previous year, will be removed... As far as Fluer comming to be potions teacher???? i doubt it... she is working in London... around Bill... I dont think she is going to become the potions teacher.... I think the potions teacher is going to be the new person. And Snape is going to be the new DADA teacher. As far as him being a "better" teacher I cannot say... But I dont think he is a bad teacher at all. The books never say that he is a "bad" teacher. Harry just hates him. He most likly is a very good potions teacher.. and I think that He will be just as good of a DADA teacher... Though his hate for Harry may make him seem like a bad teacher. Considering the books are told from Harry's perspective.... Now if he is more tolerable in Harry's eyes I doubt it.. Snape's hate for Harry has only grown it has never diminished. Harry hates Snape reguardless of what he is teaching. However, Harry most likly will be the best student in his class.

As far as Haggrid leaveing for a "lady friend" for Grawp I dont think so. Hagrid will remain the Care for magical creatures teacher. Though, I think Hagrid/Harry/herm/Ron will teacher Grawp english and to become more civilized.

In transfiguration agree with you that they will be doing human transfiguration on humans.

As far as quidditch goes... I dont think Ginny is going to be the Captain... I think its going to be Harry.... or perhaps harry and ron togeather... I dont think anybody will be removed from the team however they need atleast 1 more... Im not sure if Katie Bell Graduated.... I know that Alicia and Angelina did but im not sure if katie did.


ok Im spent for now I have to go to Class

i think this is a great thread as well, so don't close it!!

alright,

chapter one:
i agree that it will be about the night james and lily died, and i think that rowling will just describe it, because i'm not sure if harry finds out exactly what happens that night straightaway.

chapter two:
i'm also not sure if we'll get to see dudley's greatest fear, but i think that out of the two that you suggested, it would probably be harry becoming a wizard.

chapter three:
hmm, i've heard sooo many good theories about what spinner's end means. i think that chapter 2 will end with the second ending you wrote.. "harry couldnt believe that by tomorrow...."

i'm not real sure about the whole.. weasleys inheriting sirius' money, doesnt ring right with me. i would think that harry would get it, and he might give it to the order or something like that..

chapter four:
i do think that percy will come back to the family, but i'm not sure quite when in the book. the trip to see charlie is also a little iffy, just because of the current situation of the wizarding world. if the weasleys and harry go anywhere, i dont think it would be far just because of all the dangers.
i think there is a possibility that they have to travel somewhere to do some work for the order though..

i think that if harry goes anywhere [which i dont think will be to visit charlie if anything] that it would be cool to see a new form of transportation. my thought is that harry, ron and hermione will master apparation in their sixth year like F&G.

chapter five:
as far as this poll, i'm going to add my own choice..

4. i dont think that the weasleys will inherit anything from sirius

chapter six:
i think that what you've said totally makes sense with the chapter title. as far as ron and harry going to F&G joke shop, yes please.

chapter seven:
its a good idea, having fleur as potions prof, but unlikely seeing as she is at gringotts and has no reason to leave. she might turn up if her and bill get.. "involved"

chapter eight:
i do think that DD will make announcements about new minister and blah blah blah.. and i also think that DD will talk about voldy to the school. tell them that he's back and what to expect this year and stuff..

chapter nine:
snape might be a better DADA teacher than potions just because he might enjoy it better. i think that the only reason snape was so bad at potions was because he couldn't let himself get over his hatred for harry, which is one of his big faults.

chapter ten:
i think that we will probably see grawp this early on--but i dont really have an idea about what kind of role he will play. i havent thought that much about it.

chapter eleven:
I'm not sure about Ginny being captain, but if she is, I think that she'd keep Ron after that last match of the year where he performed great.

chapter twelve:
transfiguration is totally my favorite subject, and i think you're right on track about transfiguring humans. i think that they'll turn into easy things first.. like when they were vanishing things, they did snails first. easy things with not too complex body types.

chapter thirteen:
i think that with harry back the gryffindors will win their first quidditch match. and all the following

chapter fourteen:
i dont know about hagrid leaving to find a lady-friend. at least during the school year. i agree with you about felicis being part of the order, and i think he'll be at hogwarts, but i'm not sure how yet..

if, and i'm just hypothesising (sp?), hagrid is replaced by felicis, i think that felicis would be just as dangerous.. i mean, he's named after a cat and you're also right about him being important...

chapter fifteen:
i dont think that DD will bothering training grawp, i think that that will be a job for harry, ron and 'hermy'. not sure about sirius's knife in the forest either.. but maybe grawp will find something in the forest that is important..

as for the poll, i dont think that grawp will know who DD is unless he intros himself or harry, ron or 'hermy' brings DD for help or something.

wow that was long! guess i was reallllly bored..

i hope that you contine these chapter synopsis'.. cause all we can do is speculate until the book comes out.. and i cant wait!

thanks!!

I figured Felix to be the DADA teacher. Do you by chapter 15 that the other new character McClaggan will be brought up? I guess it would be possible for either of those two to be teachers...the DADA and the care of magical creatures. But Harry is taking advanced potions, or everyone figures this by seeing one of the covers. Could mean that Snape really will teacher DADA and maybe one of the new teachers...Felix? like you said will be the Care of Magical Creatures. Did you leave out what their OWLS will be? I'll have to go back and read.

Ok this is great!!! Exactly what I wanted!!! Ok, so let me get into detail what you guys have said...

1. Going To Romania.
2. Weasleys inheriting Sirius's Money.
3. Grawps Lady Friend.
4. Fleur as teacher.

These are the greatest arguments, all of which I could understand. Although two and three I thought would be obvious. Harry is most likely too young to inherit Sirius's things so Sirius would give his money to people he knew would take care of Harry, so the Weasleys. I do think though especially after the war that Hagrid will have to find more giants to help, so it would make since to find a lady. However now that I think it over, maybe a trip to Romania wouldn't make since. I was just thinking of characters we haven't saw since the book they were in. And Norbert popped into my head. Then I thought where he was, and the Weasleys having money, and a pleasant reason to leave. It connected you know... As far as Fleur as teacher, well she said she planned to teach at Hogwarts in the fourth book at the end, and I just figured since Snape would head to the DADA post, then it would make since for her to be in potions... Maybe not though... So maybe Grubbly Plank would take over for Hagrid, and Felix for potions... Oh and just so you know I didn’t think to put OWL results. If one of you could list the areas he was tested that would be great, doing all this is hard work I don’t have the energy or time to look that up. Oh and I didn’t mention McLeggen, but I find this name most likely suitable for the new minister. Also skip the knife thing, I have a plan for that later…

So here’s the next five chapters...

Chapter 16 – Occlumency Returns

This is when Harry will start learning Occlumency again, most likely with Felix Felicis. And similar to how Harry saw memories of Snape, Harry will see memories of Felix, memories that may make him seem likeable in the dark arts area. Perhaps an involvement with death eaters or Voldemort. So a poll for this would be…

Who will teach Harry Occlumency this year?
1. Snape
2. DD
3. Lupin
4. Felix
5. New Character

Chapter 17 – Death At Hogwarts

This is the chapter portrayed in the back of the American Edition, my guess is that Felix Felicis will end up being the killer, but the trio will never suspect him. So since someone is dying, so…who?
1. Snape
2. McGonnagal
3. Trewlawney
4. Hagrid
5. A student
6. Someone else, if chosen please say who.

Chapter 18 – Ritas Return

This chapter is when Hermione decides to release Rita and we’ll see what happens. So will she write…
1.Good Stuff in The Quibbler
2. Good Stuff in The Daily Prophet
3. Good Stuff in a different paper / magazine
4. Bad Stuff in The Daily Prophet
5. Bad Stuff in a different paper / magazine.

Chapter 19 – Advanced Potion Making

The nineteenth chapter is when Harry starts to think it possible that Sirius can be brought back to life, and perhaps by a potion… What I see happening is that maybe Harry and crew will take a potion that will let them enter the veil and not die…

So poll for this chapter
Is the pensieve/potion on the front cover the same as the back cover?
1. yes
2. no

Chapter 20 – A Grim Christmas

This chapter will have Harry going back to Grimmauld Place, where he will get to see members of the Order, which should be good for all the Tonks fans !!!

However most of them will be sad over the death of the character who dies in Chapter 17. So its not going to be a happy Christmas, that’s for sure. However Harry will mysteriously receive the two sided mirror that Sirius had gave him, as a present anonymously, and this time it won’t be from DD.

So will Harry tell Lupin about the present or his plan to bring back Sirius? I’m not going to put choices but you can write what you think about that question.



P.S.
Thanks again to the responders who saved this topic. Also I hate to say this, because it’ll sound stupid, but I need to know what chapter to end at. I heard there was thirty chapters. And I also heard thirty six. Those are the only numbers though, so which is it?

I'm not sure about the number...I heard 32...but you said 30 and 36...could try Rowling's website. Chapter 16: I think Harry will learn...or re-learn...occlumency from Dumbledore or Felix. Dumbledore becuase he's possibly the most skilled at it and therefore the best teacher. However, he might have too many secrets or something so that might be a bad idea. Felix would be a new character unknown to Harry, so it would also fit if he were the one to teach him....it might also reveal information about him or something too. Chapter 17: A student will die, or maybe someone in the Order. Chapter 18: I think Rita will have to write good stuff for fear of Hermione still revealing her secret. If its not about Harry or something that has to do with Harry, then it'll be bad stuff in what paper I don't know...guessing the Daily Prophet so she'll get paid. Could be another paper though because the Daily Prophet might take her absense as a sign that she didn't want to be there. Either way, there will be even more tension between her and Hermione because she won't be able to write about the interesting stuff. Chapter 19: No on the poll. I think Harry will tell Lupin everything and Lupin will advise hm to stay away from the veil but Harry won't listen. Lupin might even tell what the great significance of the mirrors are and what the veil is...or explain it better. Harry might be depressed about going to Grimmauld Place.

I can agree on the Weasley's inheriting the money. But what did you mean by Harry being to young? What about his money in Gringotts? Maybe...not sure...Harry can't have access to his vault without an adult with him. Don't worry about details....LOL...you're not writing the story. Not sure what he was tested on for OWLs. I guess McClaggan could be the minister of magic. What you said earlier about the knife being in the forest would add a lot of mystery and raise questions...which I'm sure there will be good answers! LOL Keep it up. I like how you think the story is going. I'll try to find out the real number of chapters.

says "fewer than 38 chapters"

i've heard that there is going to be 36 chapters in hbp...

for the OWL subjects, harry took:
Herbology
Potions
Transfiguration
Astronomy
Charms
Defense Against the Dark Arts
Care of Magical Creatures
Divination
History of Magic

i dont have any time so i'll have to post my thoughts on the polls later.

To crsdba, by the way, could you tell me what that stands for, thanks for the compliments. What I mean by Harry being too young is that a kid can't own a house, like Grimmauld Manor or the things in it. So the Weasleys may get the Grimmauld Place, dunno though... And what did you mean about the details, was there a place I was getting to deep into it? !

And Kermer thanks a lot for putting the subjects, I had forgotten herbology and divination. I'll have to reread what happened in those. I'm glad someone else saw 36, I'll go with that then.. Wonder if I'll get all the chapters in on time??? probably, its summer vacation though and I'm too tired for math.

I have to find the grades, I forgot that too... see you tomorrow with chapters 20-25, the first time without a title name , how am I gonna pull this off??? BTW, if anyone would like to offer what they think will happen, your more than welcome!!!

El - The
Verte - Green
Veritas - Truth

What I meant was that you don't have to worry about OWLs and stuff. Didn't mean anything by it. crsdba stands for my name. Crs = Chris and dba is my last name...shortened. Some people think Dumbledore will die, or Snape. Since Snape is taking the DADA and its believed to be cursed or something, and Voldemort might know that he has betrayed him, Snape might die. Dumbledore could also die just to show that Harry has to work alone. I saw the back cover of HBP and some think it could be from the past when James and Lily were in school. It could also be Ron and Hermione. Maybe the death will be a student and thats why the dark mark is being shown. If it is in the past, who could have died?

Oh yeah, they have "verified info" on whats going to happen. You know, stuff that we already know is going to happen.
http://www.veritaserum.com/books/book6/verified.shtml
that should help you in your story.

The new Gryffindor Beaters will be completely new finds of the new Captain's.... So new Beaters, new finds. So does that mean that they'll be new characters, ?... That could help with my Quidditch Chapter. This does help my thoughts that Ginny will be the new captain. Because it wouldn't be a sixth year, because Harry would know who they were... So its a person or should I say two people that are either in Ginny's grade or Katie Bell's grade. So the new captain is one of those two. Ingenious,really.

P.S. Now I get you Crsdba. I wasn't offended I just wondered. Anytime I can write less, I'm happy !!! So you know though they confirmed the two people on the back are Hermione or Ron. I know this is kind of cruel, but I do hope that Snape dies. You have some good reasoning on that subject....

Nah, they never verified who they are on the back, I was just saying that it could be them. Now it makes sense that Ginny would be the captain...good..uh...research! Snape dying would be too soon, I think, even though its the 6th book. I think, if he were to die, it would be in the 7th book. Some say that Snape had a life debt to James and would repay it. How could Snape repay it if James is dead? Harry isn't James! But he could possibly be the DADA teacher and you know what happens when you're that teacher. Maybe Voldemort will kill him personally, kinda foreshadowed in OotP when (I forgot who) was saying something about how rare it was for Voldemort to kill. I think it was Rowling on her website. Eh, were you saying they did confirm it was Ron and Hermione or were you asking me? I guess I just wrote the same thing twice...YEAH. Oh yeah, about Snapes life debt. I never heard about it, do you know what it is? I think Snape could have been there when Lily and James were killed. Would explain why Lupin was surprised to hear that Harry heard his father talking in PoA. However, he might recognize Snape's voice, so thats unlikely. Who knows!

How are you going to work in Grawp?

alright, finally got time to look at your chapter synopsis..

chapter sixteen:
i agree with crsdba in that I think DD will teach harry because he is the best at it. I dont think that there's any chance of harry seeing anything in DD's mind because he would either put his stuff in the pensieve or be so good at it that harry stands no chance at penetrating DD's mind. felix would also make sense, like crsdba said.. but who knows. i personally think that it would be cool if lupin came to teach harry, but there was never anything mentioned about lupin being able to do occlumency..

chapter seventeen:
i agree that there will be a killing of some sort, but i'm just not sure that felix will be the killer. i'm not sure of how big a character he will be either.. i dont know if rowling would release his name early if he was absolutely huge in the book, but i shouldnt even presume to know what's going on in her mind..

i think that verte veritas has a great point about snape and why he would die, so i could totally see him dead.. not that it wouldnt make me a little happy too.. whoops.. did i say that out loud? anyways, i think mcgonagall might die.. she just got hit with all of those stunners, and it would be taking away another person from harry that is *sort of* close, i mean she is his head of house and everything.

chapter eighteen:
from her scene in OotP, i dont think she's changed a whole lot, so i'm almost sure she'll be back writing bad stuff, but not about harry and probably not in the daily prophet.

chapter ninteen:
thats a good idea with the trio thinking about a potion to solve their problems, i mean look at the polyjuice potion.. i dont think ron got into newt potions, so if they end up making one, he wont be a ton of help, and hermione would probably advise against it the whole time..

as for the pensieve, i'm really not sure.. i havent studied the covers all that much.

chapter twenty:
hmm.. tough one. i think that with sirius gone and lupin being the last good marauder, harry will start to hold him in high regard and lean on him more. i think that if harry tells him anything, he'll tell him everything. lupin will probably suggest against it if harry brings up a potion, but will realize that harry will do it with or without his consent. i think lupin will just be a buffer for harry's feelings on the matter.

i think that scholastic confirmed that the back cover was hermione and ron and maybe ginny.. my memory fails me..

excellent thoughts on the quidditch captain as well.. i didnt think that ginny would be captain in the slightest until you explained your reasoning. all in all, i'm quite enjoying these chapter predictions--lets me use my brain.


i'm also interested how you'll work in grawp and when we'll find out who the hbp is!

"Love you like a fat kid loves cake" I heard that before, where is that from?

i'm not sure.. i heard it from someone else.. and liked it, so i started using it.

edit: i looked it up just for you, and its from a 50 cent song called 21 questions... i learn something new every day.

apparently it was in a 50 Cent song. He also said "I hate you like an anorexic kid hates cake"

i might have to use that anorexic line

i cant wait for veritas to put the next five chapters up.. i'm getting bored!

same here...I keep checking every now and then...only four days left until the truth though

...oh yeah...for the story...the mirror might have a different significance. Remember the note on the back of the one that Sirius gave him? It said something like "say my name and your face will appear on mine and you'll hear my voice". It said YOUR FACE. Meaning that Sirius's face didn't have to appear on his in order to talk...Harry was too impatient. Are going to do anything with the Heliopaths? Do you remember what those are?

do you know what chapter [even better page] that is on.. the stuff about the mirror?? i don't want to look through 800 some-odd pages if i don't have to..

not sure...its one of the last chapters. The same one where he talks to Nick about ghosts

I was thinking who the half-blood prince might be. It might be someone from long ago..dead..and everyone is thinking Godric Gryfindor. What if it was Salazar Slytherine. It says he was pure-blood. What if the others...Gryfindo, Hufflepuff, and Ravenclaw found out he was half-blood and thats why he left the others. Might explain why the green appears on one of the covers of the books. Although it could also be anything else that has to do with Slytherine himself, the Slytherine house/students, the killing curse, Harry looking into his past when his parents were killed, even the graveyard scene, or the one in the MoM where he was saved again.

I'm sorry, once again. My posts are slowing down, I was busy today and never got to a computer. And to top it off the place I was at, I left my planning book. Its kind of dumb, you see I'm an idea guy so whenever I have an idea , about Harry Potter or if I'm writing or doing doodles for art, thats where I put it. It is dorky, but it helps. I'll have the book tomorrow. And I have all the next 16 chapters planned. I can remember some of them, but not all, and I don't want to confuse anybody and go back and forth. So today, I'll put Chapter 21, and chapters 22-36 will be posted tomorrow. I promise!

Chapter 21 - Romance in the air.

Now I've never been a romance guy and I personally hate writing about it, but its bound to happen in Harry Potter. In this chapter Ron and Luna will end up together. For one reason, well two actually. Luna obviously loves Ron, if you see all the examples of flirting in Book 5. When she laughed at Rons joke for a longgg time, and then when Harry and Ron had a game, she only wished Ron luck... And also in this chapter Hermione will be writing more and more to Krum, so due to Ron's jealousy he'll agree to go out with Luna. And Harry and Ginny will be together. They may find that they get along more with Quidditch going on and all.... So thats all for this chapter, and heres the poll...

Do you think if Hermione does write to Krum more often, will they end up together, and more importantly will Krum make a visible return in this book?

I really have no idea about the relationships. Could go any way. I could see what you said about them all working. I've also heard Harry and Luna...Hermione and Ron...Ginny and Harry...Hermione and Draco...countless! I can see where you're coming from not liking the romance thing. Some have said that Karkaroff (or whatever his name is) will get to Dumbledore(everyone think Karkaroff is evil) through hermione writing to Krum...or the other way around (Dumbledore getting to Karkaroff. I could see Krum coming back, as well as Karkaroff. Remember the graveyard scene in GoF when Voldemort labels the three missing death eaters? Something like the one not returning, the scared one, and the one still fullfilling his mission...goes something like that. What are your views on who those three could be? Some say one of them is Snape which is why Dumbledore told him to leave in the end of GoF...sort of like a double agent.

I think Cho might be out of the picture for good and will become just a passer-by. Also, her friend kind of messed everything up in OotP! What about the DA? What James and Lily's professions? Too many questions huh?

Kermer: any ideas on the mirror? Rowling said they would come up again. I doubt it will be used with Sirius though. I think it likely that he's gone for good. The veil has to be some sort of execution thing, or where people (the Unspeakables) study death. Yeah, theres got to be more to mirrors.

i forgive you!! that totally stinks about your planning book! i have those too.. and they're not dumb actually quite helpful!

crsdba, the whole salazar as hbp is a pretty good theory.. kinda wack, but i could see rowling giving the book that sort of twist.. i'm with you on the fact that the hbp will probably be someone from long ago--maybe it'll be someone from long ago, but then they'll have left a part of themselves behind to talk with harry.. like riddle and his diary in CoS. maybe nearly headless nick is the hbp! naw.. prolly too far-fetched.

chapter 21:
i'm not a shipper of any sort.. and i'm not really into a whole lot of romance.. it often ruins good books and movies.. but i can see luna liking ron, and then ron going out with her just because he's jealous of hermione and krum--but i dont think that krum will reappear visibly. i think that harry's romance will be with someone totally new. ginny will probably still be with dean thomas for at least the beginning of the book.

crsdba.. i'm going to re-read the part about the mirrors and see if i can make more sense of it!!

can't wait for the next bunch of chapters!

I think it would be impossible to continue the D.A., as long as DD knows about it. Although I've always wondered why not continue the dueling club after book 2, especially now!!! So I think that will continue. But that was for a later chapter, patience now!!

James and Lily's Proffesions will be told in the chapter when Harry goes back to Grimmauld Place, Lupin will probably tell him. I just forgot to put it in there. Thanks for reminding me.

The One Not Returning - Ludo Bagman
The One Who Is in Fear - Karkaroff
The One Fulfilling his Mission - Crouch Jr.

BTW, I too noticed Sirius's message. And the mirror is more of use in chapters 23 or 24, wait till tomorrow... Its good for the other side that he can't see the face though... I'll say that. And its not good for Harry either...

The mirror thing makes sense now. He won't see the others face in case someone is watching him! Never though about that. It would be bad either way, true. I'll wait for that! Wouldn't the DA and the dueling club be pretty much the same thing. I guess they'd have to change the name. What if whoever is speaking through the mirror can't see the face. So when the other side starts talking to Harry, he'll see somebody....I know...I know...I'll wait.

Ah, I don't have the patience of Rowling. I wouldn't be a good writer, someone would ask a question and I'd tell them. If you want to know right now Crsdba, I'll tell you... I see your still on.

Its up to you...sure why not. I'd probably do the same by answering all the questions.

tell tell!! i mean it's up to you.. until we force it out..

the mirror thing totally makes sense to me too now.. when harry is talking to nick.. nick basically says that wizards in the DoM study the secrets of death.. so i was wondering if they use that veil. so if they use the veil, maybe those people on the other side that were whispering.. maybe they talk to the unspeakables. if they do, then maybe harry could get a message from sirius.


ahh i cant wait for the book!
and veritas's chapters!

wow am i impatient..

Ok, I'm going to write this in white so that anyone who doesn't want to see my whole plot doesn't have to, I'd suggest that in your replies you'd do the same:

Felix Felicis is a death eater and is the Half Blood Prince and he is the one who will give Harry the mirror. He'll trick Harry, by making him think its Lupin. He'll suggest that Harry goe's back in time to save Sirius, and then he'll trap him. Felix Felicis is jealous of Harry, and his equality to Voldemort. He wants to be more than Harry. But none other than Peter Pettigrew will come to the rescue for Harry, and keep Felix away. Thats where Peter was in the fifth book, he was saving Harry!!!

THATS CRAZY! in a good way. That makes sense! I think lol

oh now that's good. having felix be the hbp AND a DE is totally different than everyone else's predictions. hmm.. i guess i never thought about the fact that someone dark could be the hbp. the bit about felix jealous of harry and all that fits in too. and pettigrew.. well surprises never cease. i forget if it was you that thought that pettigrew was going to kill voldemort..

i'd laugh my head off if all this really happened in the book.. then i'd call you a genius. but either way.. it's coming together nicely..

yeah, I could see that happening...any more ideas...Kermer?

i was just wondering how harry would be keeping in touch with members of the order.. in the last pages of OotP, the kiddos from the order told harrys uncle and aunt that if harry wasnt in contact with them for three days, they would do something, i dont remember what.. but anyways, i wonder if he will use just normal owl post. i was just thinking that it would be difficult for harry to use owl because of the sensitive nature of his letters.. but i'm not sure. maybe we'll see another form of communication with him and the order. remember that DD said that the order has a much more efficient way of communicating with each other, and maybe harry will be let in on that. maybe they use something like the mirrors?? give me some feedback on this.. it sounds off when i read it back to myself..

and i was wondering how we could be sure harry still has the mirror with him.. after all he threw it on the ground and broke it, but i went back and read that he threw it INTO his trunk where it shattered, so that means he still has it. since rowling threw that little piece in there, i'm guessing the mirrors will come up later.

i've got like a million questions about the book.. but i havent tried to figure out all the answers yet. i'm workin on it but i'm a slow thinker.

i'm also still interested in the fact that the DoM studies the mysteries of death through that veil. any ideas on that crsdba?

Yeah! Just thought for a second that it could all be a big conspiracy with Harry...couldn't be...lol...It would make sense for them to study there. If it were an execution type thing it wouldn't be in the department of mysteries. It would be somewhere close to where the trials take place (if thats in the DoM then my bad). I guss whoever studies it would sit there on the amphitheater thing. It would have a lot of people in in it, or maybe its uesed to amplify the whispers or talk to them more clearly. Its hard to explain because we don't know much about it. Do you think they also study life?

I don't know about using the mirrors as their primary source of communication. What about the portraits? That wouldn't be right either. Harry doesn't have access to any...or does he...Petunia?...NO!..I also thought it said that only the most trusted of Dumbledore use them anyway. Maybe it will be something different we haven't seen or something like what DD did in the GoF with his wand to contact Hagrid

Yeah, I got a lot of questions. My main questions are on the heliopaths.

what are heliopaths? everyone keeps mentioning them, but i cant remember what they are..

they're talked about in the chapter where everyone meets up to talk about the DA for the first time. I think they're described as horses of fire that burn the ground they walk on. Of course Luna is talking abou them and how Fudge has an army of them...thats why they start to call it Dumbledores Army. My question is were they in the DoM where Harry's knife melted. Also, are they on the cover of one of the books?

do you have AIM?

yeh... my sn is coastguardcm..

Guess I shoud click the card for more info

MOD EDIT : Please don't double post - just click on the edit button if you want to change anything. I've deleted your second post and pasted it below bu the mods don't usually have the time to do things like this for you, so please be careful in the future...

What about the connection between CoS and HBP...I think it has to do with choices

Excuse me, kermer and crsdba - this forum is not your personal chatroom. Not only have you broken rules by double posting, but you're also posting one liners and carrying out personal conversations. The PM system is in place for things like this.

Now if I don't see some order and a bit more respect for the rules in this thread, I'll lock it and I don't care how much moaning people do about it.

Please don't close this thread Dana!!! I wondered where the Mod's were this whole time? In fact I was going to ask. myself, I din't realize it, but I double posted. Then I think I put a couple one-liners, but its going to be different now. In fact I would like to see more people in this thread than the trio of myself, crsdba, and kermer. Although your guy's ideas are good.

P.S.- Until 4:00, the most likely time for me to get my idea book, I think you should use this thread to maybe write out your own way of the story, instead of certain parts. Thatss what this is for....

I apologise for the lack of mod presence in this thread, but I'm sure you've noticed that I've been on my own this weekend and the others have only just got back so there will be things I will have missed. Generally, I know the members who give us a trouble and those who behave themselves so I will admit to skipping this thread because I thought the people posting here had a bit of common sense and had read the rules.

Clearly I was mistaken. It's not a mistake I intend to make again...

Hi everybody. This is the first time i have posted into this topic, but i think its great. Any reason to pass time until the HBP comes-bring on Saturday!!!

Anyway, here's my answers to your great polls

1. I think that in the first chapter Harry is going to see the events that took place when Voldemort killed Lily and James and when Harry took Voldemort's powers away. This is the most obvious subject that fits into books 1,3 and 5. I think Harry will see the events through a pensieve because we know that the pensieve is going to be important in the next book because it's on the american version of the HBP cover. But i'm not sure whose pensieve it will be - maybe Voldemort's?

2. I think that Dudley's dementor is most likely to be when he figured out what his mum was. Some people aren't sure that we will find out what Dudley's dementor is but i read an interview where JK Rowling said we will find out what it was.

3. I have an idea about what spinners end could be. JK Rowling said that the spider Aragog is going to be in the HBP. What if Spinners end means that Aragog is going to somehow die? Either thats a really great theory or its really stupid.

4. I think that it is most likely that he will use a portkey. Also, i think that he will go back to Grimmauld Place because it is the Order of the Phoenix headquarters. There will probably be a lot more people there than last time though.

I don't think that Harry will go to Romania so i won't bother answering polls 5 and 6.

Anyway i'll post back later on with the other polls.
Bye!!

MOD EDIT: I know you said it was an accident, but there's an 'edit' button at the top right of your post that serves that function. Next time, please use that instead of double posting. I've deleted your second post and pasted it here.