No, Hagrid's father died before Hagrid was expelled. I don't understand that, though ... why does Hagrid's father have to be alive in order for Hagrid to be a prince?

I think that the HBP is going to be a baaad thing. Not a good person, but a bad bad prince

I think the half-blood prince is victor Krum. it would make perfect sense. every other character rowling has created has served a signaficant purpose, krum really hasn't done that yet. also, it would make sense that krum was a prince because karkaroff treated him like royality.

HMMMMMMMMM! Does anyone smell a Ron Hermione relationship in the next 2 books? Also what about Mark Evans? He would be coming of Hogwarts age this year!

Erm...the first remark was just a touch off topic, don't you think?

And JKR has already said that Mark Evans is a nobody. But you never know, I guess....

I noticed that Dean Thomas has been discussed, however, I believe him to be the HBP. As JKR said she had more info on him, but could not find a place for it. His dad (a wizard) left the family before Dean's mum could find out about his being a wizard. I believe I read somewhere that Dean's father left because "V" was after him for refusing to join him. My question is why would JKR have so much history on Dean if he wasn't going to an important character somewhere along the way?

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According to me,the half-blood prince will not be any character who is actually identified,or we may know,someone like hagrid or dean thomas.He may be a person who indirectly influences the plot-
1.Like Nicolas Flamel
2.Like the Goblet of Fire,etc.
Then again the second possibility that I see is that the hbp will be a normal person who performs a big worthy deed or brings about a revolution and then becomes the prince of all half bloods.
Another possiblity is that he will actually be a prince and is later on recognized as a half-blood.
That's what I think

hey people, who do you guys think is the half-blood prince??? i'm having a guess that it's going to be someone new, or neville maybe...who do you think is going to die...i think hagrid will because he is a really great friend of harry's although i don't want him to die i can see it happening

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I have a feeling that Colin Creevy is the Half Blood Prince because he is a character who was introduced in Chamber of Secrets and J.K Rowling revealed that HBP is relative to something which was revealed in CoS and it was revealed in CoS that Colin’s father was a muggle and that he was sending pictures home to him. However he doesn’t mention his mother which may mean that he is a half blood if he doesn’t know his Mother. Also if he didn’t know his Mother he wouldn’t know anything about his ancestry and whether or not he is the Half Blood Prince.

jk said mark evans was a bakround caracter though so he cant be that important...

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yeah but that could be to mislead us
she does that sometimes

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i had a thought. i was re-reading CoS. the only real thing harry discovers is Tom being the heir of Slytherin. so that could foreshadow harry being the gryffindor heir. but that's too obvious. Fawkes came to him. I may be completely wrong here, but have we ever read of Dumbledore not being a half-blood. Its very possible isnt it? Fawkes came to Harry from Dumbledore. I belive that Doubledore is not only the heir of gryffindor, but the HBP.

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I think the half blood prince is Justin Finch-Fletchley.Why?
1.he was first mentioned in book 2
2.he said "my name was down for Eton." Royalty perhaps?
3.he is half blood

ah also, in the film he's got a heavy posh London accent. Not that that is proof enough of course

I guess Justin isn´t a bad guess, but I like the idea of maybe DD being Gryffindors heir. It could be a possibility. And maybe it has some relation to the Potters hiding at Godric´s Hollow??

ok guys, I previously said that I thought Justin was the half blood prince. but now I think that was just a red herring. I think it is either 1.Regulus- Sirius' brother
2.Aberforth- Dumbledore's brother
3.Someone in the past because of the U.S cover
4.Godric Gryffindor (I doubt it)
5.Seamus Finnigan

just one comment, RowenaRavenclaw, isn´t Regulus, as Sirius, a pure-blood??

Here is my thoughts. It ethier someone we haven't met or heres my two that I think is
Seamus Finnigan : He said in COS or ss/ps that he is half half so out of the blue yes it could been for the plot of cos but I don't think so,

And the other one is Wormtail: Why he is the only person in the marauders that we don't know his background. we really don't know if he is a half or pure blood or even muggle born ( At least that I know of)

Okay, I confess I haven't read every reply on this thread, but I scanned through briefly. Does anyone here think that Hagrid could be the HBP? He's only half giant adn I can't remember what the other half is... I read CoS a looong time ago and borrowed the book from my neighbor who only lives here in the summer. I will likely buy a book of my own and re-read it. Somthing tells me that the answer doesn't lie in the movie, but in the book where there is more detail.

Likewise, I'm thinking that Hagrid is going to be the one that will be meeting his maker in the book. Unfortunately. I hope I'm wrong, but the clue was that someone very close to Harry dies and I can't see JKR popping off Ron or Hermione. Hagrid is the next closest character to Harry.



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Just wanted to know if anyone else thinks that Draco may redeem himself in the Half-Blood Prince and/or Book 7? Do you think he might stop being the nasty **** he has been to Harry and his friends and actually in the end, decide to support the non-evil side?

His nastiness and prejudice against 'Mudbloods' could just be a reflection of Father's hatred for them. It will be interesting to find out about Draco's domestic life and his relationship with his Mother. I mean, do you really think he's just pure evil?

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I have no clue if this is wrong - or if JK has said otherwise - but couldn't the HBP be Neville?
Think about it, he's coneccted to Harry majorly - as we found out in OotP - so wouldn't that make sense?
I don't know if he is a half blood, but if he is (like harry) then I defiently think it is Neville. Definelty.
Hehe.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

I guess it all depends on the meaning we give to the HBP. If we think of a half-bloo person, Neville can´t be the HBP, he is pure blood. But if we think of the other commented theory, the prince of half bloods, then I guess so many can be. And NEville could be, maybe because of his relation to the prophecy

Hi everyone,

Having recently read through the HP series, and read what has been said about the half blood prince, it seems fairly logical to me that Hagrid is a major theoretical contendor as the Half Blood Prince.

Until now he's been a bit of a sounding board and plot thickener for Harry, Hermione, and Ron's conspiracy theorising. Now they have:

1. The order: including Tonks and others they can go to for info
2. More open war: Knowledge of Voldormort’s existence
3. An alternative Care of magical animals teacher

Considering Hagrid’s relegation to the story side-lines, he would seem a bit obsolete – BUT:
Enter his half brother – Grawp must feature heavily in the next book as he and Hagrid are absolutely tied together. We also know Hagrid is a half-blood with a famous giant mother.

The equation of power between good and evil must balance to maintain hope, suspense, and feasibility for the reader. Voldermort is almost certain to gain command of the dementors, therefore an uneasy alliance could be made between wizards and giants to balance this off. As Dumbledore appears to already decided, this could only be mediated through the use of Hagrid as he is both a wizard and a giant (Hagrid loving big and dangerous things). Yet, the problem is that Hagrids inferior size and strength compared to pure blood giants makes him a questionable mediator in the eyes of the reader. This is highlighted by the beatings he gets off his half-brother Grawp. Therefore the fact that he’s been repeatedly trampled on and humiliated by both wizards and giants makes for a great story line following his rise to power and true identity. Power would be best achieved through some claim to the throne to give Hagrid both the necessary sense of self-esteem required to pursue this role (Hagrid being very humble by nature), and the moral component that would make us want him to win (most probably a final show down with the head giant).

Let me know what you all think?

Hagrid was my first bet, and I still think he is a very good candidate, specially because there´s something we discover in CoS that leads Harry to discover something in HBP, and we discover Harry´s spent some time in Azkaban, and I think something more, but I just can´t remember now. And Hagrid is also a half-blood, half giant half wizard.
So I totally agree with you, HBP theory.

This is going to sound completly "whacked out hippy crazy" talk, but i personally dont think the Half-Blood Prince is a person. I think its either an object of somekind, like a sword, or special wand, or its a legend of somekind, with some relevance to the downfall of good ol' voldy

it's obviosly snape...

y'know how he's always around at night? y'know how he can sence harry and stuff even if he cant see them? He's a vampire... He's always down in the dungeons(not really always...) andhes really pale. but hes only half vampire. thats why dumbledore took him in and trusts him...hes half vampire. He tryed to protect hagrid from being "discovered" and he protected lupin... sooo...... he's protecting snape and keeping him on as a teacher. hes' the hbp (wizard/vampire)! we dont know anything about his background... when lupin was discovered, he was a large part of the plot... when hagrid was discovered, he was too (he brought back grawp and helped with the giants and stuff...) sooo... when snape is discovered, he will step over as prince of something... and he's half blood...


P. S.- I didn't get to read the whole board so if someone already said something about this, dont get mad..... i'm just lazy..

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Don't think it could be Snape because he was in Slytherin and they only take pure-bloods surely?

I'm of the opinion that it's actually someone we haven't seen yet but if it had to be an existing charcter then I'd go for Hagrid too - he's taken a bit of a back seat of late but I can see him coming to rule over the giants simply because he has more intelligence and magical power.

yeah...maybe, but you have to admit, it would be awesome if snape were a vampire.

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well, so was tom riddle and hes not fullblooded. plus, Snape's not muggle at all. soo... yeah...

I was watching my nephew playing PS on the PS2 this morning and when he got the Godric Gryffindor card, I couldn't get over how much the sketch of him looked very lion-ish. He was this huge bloke, with thick blonde hair and I couldn't help but think of that description of character X....I know the guy there sounded a lot older, but all the same, the characteristics were there and the description of him could have been from a scene in the Pensieve where Godric was older....

I don't know, it's probably just a coincidence because I have no idea how much input JKR has into the games, but I still thought it was interesting...as opposed to the portrayal of Salazar Slytherin - who was very thin, wiry and snake-like in appearance, exactly how I'd pictured him....

I haven´t seen that image of Godric Gryffindor, but I guess it could be a picture of a young Godric Gryffindor. Then JK´s description could be of an older Godric Gryffindor. I don´t know if an image from the Pensieve, because DD can´t have lived at the same time as him, so he couldn´t have a memory of him. But who knows... How about a memory like Tom Riddle's?
And if we took the "prince of half-bloods" meaning, maybe he could be the HBP. And maybe this has something to do with the Potter´s living at Godric´s Hollow. I think I recall JK saying something about the name of the town maybe having something to do with him, too.

i was reading a fan fic about how the brain that attacked ron transfered something to him that made him more powerful maybe making him the hbp..i dont nessacarly believe it but i thought it was intriquing.. and madam pomfrey said "thoughts leave the greatest scars"

just something to talk about i suppose...i doubt it is any where near right

I guess the HBP is Salazar Slytherin. His story is intentionally removed by Jo Rowling from COS, because it doesn't provide anything urgent to explain to the Chamber of Secrets.
The pensieve means we are looking to the past, possibly the story of the founders, where Godric's history will also be revealed and possibly gives a hint how to defeat Slytherin and Voldemort.

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Ok guy's.
I just came up with a little friekin' idea. I haven't been taking part in the HBP threads so this is my first post in here, which just says I haven't read all the post of 36 sites!

what if the HBP wasn't a mysterious character that had something to do with the worlds doom, Voldemort and all that sort of things. What If the HBP was a knew girl for Harry? or.. no... wait it says the half Blood "Prince". gee oh but what if it really was a girl? just some metaphor r something. well..

well who I think the HBP is? probably some sick person who want's to either tourcher ot kill Harry and all his friends.. OK only kidding, but it could be possible though I realize...

Haha, I'm new to this thread too... well I'm fairly new to the entire site for that matter. My idea for the HBP is not an evil character but rather a benevolent one.. possibly the new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher, or maybe one of those new characters: Mclaggan or Felix Felcis... but I am almost positive in saying it is a new character, even though she says it is related to the Chamber of Secrets, it is relating to another piece of information, not who the HBP is.. I am adamant in sayin it is a new character (and not a new love for harry)

I believe it has got to be Seamus he mentioned that he was half and half. Also he really has not played a big role in the books, although we are constantly reminded of his character, this leads me to belive that jk has a plan for him, it also helps that he started to believe harry, perhaps Harry will have to defend him???? I doubt it will be one of the big characters, but who knows its a suggestion we shall have to wait and see.

Up till now Seamus has been a relatively low key character and we don't know much about him and such. But if JKR were to make him all of a sudden a major character, that would be weird, at least with Neville she took her time. And for those of you who haven't read on her site, Dean Thomas is also a half-blood, but his wizard father died or left. So he was raised by his muggle mother. So JKR was going to originally put a subplot in the earlier books of Dean findoing out about his father and make him a "Neville" type character, but she decided against it.

I really feel that the HBP will be a new character too, I think it would be far too late to add substance to the smaller characters now. Seamus and Dean are just there as minor characters, to show that there are other people at Hogwarts other than Ron, Hermione and Harry. Its an interesting idea that the HBP could be a defense against the dark arts teacher.
I also think he must be a positive character because the phrase Half Blood certainly implies he is not a pure blood, thererfore i doubt many dark wizards would be fond of him.
Maybe it even turned out that Sirius was the Half Blood Prince?? Or is that a bit too out there lol.

Yes, the name Half Blood Prince says that he is the champion of half bloods, i.e. a positive character. Although it does not state it, it implies that he is a half-blood himself, so in my opinion, this rules out Sirius, whose family is about as Pure-Blood as you can get.

I think the half blood prince is going to be a person that you heard of in previous books, but they just seemed like a name. She did it with Luna and Sirius...

Me thinks Half Blood Prince MAY be a new character, or some baby just born, maybe something happened to him, and is now known as Half Blood Prince cause his parents are muggles or somethin. i dunno.

I think it would be cool if jsut like Luna, Sirius, etc the HBP was mentioned in passing, but the only one of those at the top of my head I can think of is Blaise Zabini...