Matthew
Jun 29 2004, 09:34 PM
There's already several threads for this topic, so this will be labeled the official one in which you can discuss the sixth book, Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince.
Sloopy The Red
Jun 29 2004, 09:50 PM
Ok, I have a question that has been plaguing me all day. Suppose for a moment that the HBP *was* Dean Thomas. Should the bit in the very end of OOTP where Ginny says "I choose Dean Thomas" be any sort of hint about anything? This relates to COS in that Dumbledor made an emphatic statement about it being our *choices* that make us who we are, not to mention that Ginny's role in COS was of insurmountable significance. AND, unless I'm very much mistaken, Ginny bears a substantial resemblance to Harry's mother: red hair, green eyes. Ginny always has been a smart girl. And what if, by some obscure chance, Dean WAS the HBP he died at some point during Book Six, and Ginny (now emotionally neurotic like Cho was after Cedric) finally regained her feelings for Harry (recall the fleeting grin she gave him at the end of OOTP as well), and the Harry/Ginny pair blossomed-- that couple's resemblance to James/Lily would be uncanny!
Did any of that make sense? Maybe it's too far fetched and confusing, not to mention this theory totally neglects Mark Evans. Oh well, just a thought... lemmie know whatcha think!
Phoenix
Jun 29 2004, 09:59 PM
well tht does make a good point, but there might be a possibility tht if mark evans is in fact important then maybe he might be the HBP...but tht's just a thought..
Sloopy The Red
Jun 29 2004, 10:04 PM
yeah, i've been SERIOUSLY considering Mark Evans, i mean his last name is the same as Lily's for cryin' out loud

! but i just *can't* think of how he could get connected... hmm, ideas? cause as far as he's concerned, i got nothin...[/img]
Phoenix
Jun 29 2004, 10:07 PM
yea same here, but the whole coincidence of hvin the same last name as lily, is pretty interesting but j.k. still hasn't answered on her site if he is in fact related to harry's mother in any way..
hp123
Jun 29 2004, 10:28 PM
Well I remember JKR stating on her site somewhere that she did want to include a whole history of Dean Thomas, but she couldn't find a place to add it, and then it became too late to introduce him with such a big significance. So I don't know. I guess we'll find more about it soon!
LupariusMurilegus
Jun 30 2004, 12:00 AM
I'm still thinking along the Mark Evans train of thought...Harry's second cousin anyone?
hp123
Jun 30 2004, 12:17 AM
LupariusMurilegus, if Mark Evans was Harry's second cousin, he would have to be Lily and Petunia's first cousin. (Not Vernon Dursley's because of Lily and Petunia's maiden name, Evans) Now if I'm not mistaken, Dumbledore sent Harry to the Dursley's because they were "the only family he [Harry] has".
It could be a possibility, and I'm not shooting it down because I'd love to believe Harry has other family members. It just seems unlikely because of the evidence.
Phoenix
Jun 30 2004, 12:28 AM
well maybe DD sent harry to the dursleys because they were non magic and if he would hve sent harry to whoever Mark evans is stayin with, they r probably magic related in some way and voldermort would most likely look for him there...but who knows im probably wrong....
Azkaban
Jun 30 2004, 01:24 AM
What about Theodore Nott?
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asdfghjkl
Jun 30 2004, 01:31 AM
I think in book 6 lupin will die and he will be killed by wormtail. Why else would he be given a 'silver' hand you need silver bullets to kill a werewolf!!! He was too close to harrys parrets to live. I think that wormtail will save Harry in book 7. I also think the chamber will be Voldys HQ if Dumbledore snuffs it.
hp123
Jun 30 2004, 01:56 AM
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| What about Theodore Nott? |
Isn't Theo Nott one of the Death Eater's son?
Phoenix
Jun 30 2004, 02:03 AM
yea his dad is one of the death eaters...
hp123
Jun 30 2004, 02:09 AM
That could be a possibility. Are there clues on the site for more information on book six? Maybe something that gives a hint to who the HBP is.
Azkaban
Jun 30 2004, 02:14 AM
I'm in the room now, and the window on the left side...it's nighttime, and there are stars, and a crescent moon, with a cloud going across every once in a while.
Reckon it has something to do with Lupin?
Phoenix
Jun 30 2004, 02:17 AM
well it would hve to be a full moon to relate with lupin...
Azkaban
Jun 30 2004, 02:22 AM
Yeah, good thinking.
I'm in the fansites part now....and right next to the big trophy in the middle, which has the latest winner on it, is a silver trophy, partially obscured by...well, I'll just give you the middle line of trophies.
Bellatrix Black---Harry Potter Lexicon---Har-------Lily Evans--asley
I'm thinking that's Harry and a Weasely. Maybe Ron?
Voldemort
Jun 30 2004, 02:22 AM
yeah, a full moon to relate with Lupin, I wonder who the Prince is though....,
Catch_22
Jun 30 2004, 06:48 AM
Half blood right? And a prince? Is is most likely the king or queen that is a wizard or a witch. Do we have any remote idea of whom a king or queen might be in the wizarding world? or at the moment a king or queen mentioned in the muggle world? with that we could figure out who might be the prince.
@@siriusblack@@
Jun 30 2004, 02:49 PM
| QUOTE |
Ok, I have a question that has been plaguing me all day. Suppose for a moment that the HBP *was* Dean Thomas. Should the bit in the very end of OOTP where Ginny says \"I choose Dean Thomas\" be any sort of hint about anything? This relates to COS in that Dumbledor made an emphatic statement about it being our *choices* that make us who we are, not to mention that Ginny's role in COS was of insurmountable significance. AND, unless I'm very much mistaken, Ginny bears a substantial resemblance to Harry's mother: red hair, green eyes. Ginny always has been a smart girl. And what if, by some obscure chance, Dean WAS the HBP he died at some point during Book Six, and Ginny (now emotionally neurotic like Cho was after Cedric) finally regained her feelings for Harry (recall the fleeting grin she gave him at the end of OOTP as well), and the Harry/Ginny pair blossomed-- that couple's resemblance to James/Lily would be uncanny!
Did any of that make sense? Maybe it's too far fetched and confusing, not to mention this theory totally neglects Mark Evans. Oh well, just a thought... lemmie know whatcha think! :D |
i can't be dean because on the site they say dean is not part of the main plot som I highly doubt she would name a book after him
NastyShort
Jun 30 2004, 02:55 PM
Coult it be possible that the half-blood prince is Neville? He's supposed to become important to the plot....and no one said that both Alice and Frank were both pure-blooded.....
pots13
Jun 30 2004, 03:31 PM
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| Coult it be possible that the half-blood prince is Neville? He's supposed to become important to the plot....and no one said that both Alice and Frank were both pure-blooded..... |
Er, sorry, but it doesn't matter if your parents are both muggleborns. As long as both your parents are wizards / (to be politically correct) witches, then you are automatically a pure blood. So... Neville can't be a half blood, it's not Harry or Voldemort, which leaves... who? I heard from mugglenet chatroom that they were thinking it was Hagrid. (That was the day before our chatroom came up, so don't think my loyalties lie elsewhere. This site is still better.)
SGC
Jun 30 2004, 04:18 PM
But Tom Riddle says in COS that both he and Harry are similar in that they are both half-blood. Must be from Lilly's side (being that she is muggle-born). I don't think that JKR would have said that if it was not the case. Not that I think that either of them are the HBP. My personal guess is either Hagrid or Godric Griffindor. Also, as a side note, I think that Harry is related to GG in some way. One clue to that is that his parents lived in Godric's Hollow and JKR said in an interview that James inherited his money.
Azkaban
Jun 30 2004, 04:50 PM
That's a good thought. Indeed.
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merlin89
Jun 30 2004, 05:07 PM
did anyone consider neville or maybe voldermort has a son?
hp123
Jun 30 2004, 05:19 PM
Neville having a son?

I don't think that's it.
ZutAlurs
Jun 30 2004, 05:31 PM
In the interview
here, Rowling says this
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Siriusstar: Is Remus a pureblood? JK Rowling replies -> Half blood. |
Very interesting choice of words is it not? And this is from March, not recently.
hp123
Jun 30 2004, 05:58 PM
What's the interesting choice of words? I just see Half blood. :?
Professor Diggle
Jun 30 2004, 06:06 PM
Harry is not the prince.
Why?
Because of language reasons.
The title could't be Harry Potter and Harry Potter, it would have to be Harry Potter, the HBP
Do you understand?
Naz
Jun 30 2004, 06:13 PM
i dont understand. harry isnt the half blood prince? why?
LupariusMurilegus
Jun 30 2004, 06:16 PM
JK said it wasn't Harry or Voldy...but YAY REMUS!!!
hp123
Jun 30 2004, 06:17 PM
Nice point Professor Diggle.
Dansgurl01 -- If Harry was the Half Blood Prince, that wouldn't be the title.
It could not be Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince if Harry was the HBP.
If that were the case, it would be Harry Potter & the Harry Potter [HBP].
But Professor Diggle, JKR already told us on her website that neither Voldemort nor Harry is the HBP.
Naz
Jun 30 2004, 06:20 PM
oh... thank you for making it clear!! that makes more sense.
hp123
Jun 30 2004, 06:22 PM
No problem! It is a bit confusing at first lol.
I'm overly excited about this new book. Do you think JKR is going to make us wait another year for the book?
Naz
Jun 30 2004, 06:24 PM
lol, yeh she probably will. i dont mind how much she makes us wait. just as long as the wait is worth it!! :wink:
archangel
Jun 30 2004, 07:00 PM
wait, if this was the title of book 2, who was it then? the only person i can think of is voldemort.....or tom riddle.
LupariusMurilegus
Jun 30 2004, 07:32 PM
She may have kept the title but shanged the concept/ idea or background story behind it. And wacth her never put the seventh one out! LOL j/k that would just be torture
archangel
Jun 30 2004, 07:41 PM
ahhhhhhhh!!!!.....oh...oh you were just joking.............you almost gave me a heart attack!
oh good point about the concept being changed.
hp123
Jun 30 2004, 10:42 PM
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| lol, yeh she probably will. i dont mind how much she makes us wait. just as long as the wait is worth it!! :wink: |
That's true! It's just so hard waiting for the next book. Argh! I think I'm going insane! :shock: (<don't you just love that face?)
Naz
Jun 30 2004, 11:45 PM
i know! it would be better if she put the book out sooner. that would be awsome!
archangel
Jun 30 2004, 11:48 PM
it'd be good if she surpirsed us all and released it tomorrow!.......that might happen.....maybe....just maybe...........
Naz
Jun 30 2004, 11:50 PM
lol yeh! that would be cool! but they need time to put it on the news and stuff too
archangel
Jun 30 2004, 11:52 PM
yeah, the hype for this book is gonna be HUGE!! cant wait!
Naz
Jun 30 2004, 11:58 PM
i know!! i wonder how big it is gona be!
scarletweasley
Jul 1 2004, 12:09 AM
I don't think that the Half Blood Prince will be one of Harry's "friends". It will be someone that one would never expect and that maybe we haven't even had introduced yet. JKR even says on her site that COS has more to do with it than we think. I trying to find anything that wasn't as noticable in COS. All we can do is WAIT!!! aargh!!!!
there are a lot of people that we still havent been introduced to. it could be one of those people.
Harriet Hornbeam
Jul 1 2004, 07:22 AM
I agree, I don't think it is a student at the school. By looking at JKR's site, i learnt that Dean is in fact a halfblood but like it has been said earlier his history isn't pivotal to the plot, so it is not likely that a book has been named after him.
What I would like to know is Dumbledore's lineage. I mean, it is quite possible that he is a half-blood...as well as his mysterious brother who has only been mentioned once or twice.
I was also thinking perhaps Hagrid, considering he is most certainly a half-breed. Maybe there was more to his giantess mother than we know.
The other halfbloods I know of are the aforementioned Lupin, Fleur (half veela, maybe has a brother?), Firenze (a bit far-fetched) and Crookshanks (now I'm just looking for anything remotely halfblood) and then again there could be several characters who have yet to be introduced.
I am incredibly suspicious of Dumbledore though.
simran
Jul 1 2004, 03:19 PM
In book5 DD says Harry as half blood (though Lily/James r wizards ) as Lily's father is a muggle .In that case if Mrs.Weasely's father is a muggle why not Ron be half blood prince?
hp123
Jul 1 2004, 03:57 PM
Well Mr. and Mrs. Weasley are both wizards and witches. That way, Ron would be pureblood. It doesn't matter if the Weasley parents are half blood or not, as long as both parents are magical, their kids will be pureblood as well, I think. (Unless they're a Squib)
Oh just kidding! I just read what you said again. Yeah that does seem to be a possibility! Hmm.. I wonder what the technicalities of wizard blood really are. [/i]
Professor Diggle
Jul 1 2004, 04:54 PM
The hal-blood prince will be on Harry's side.
The others are mainly pureblood, but Voldemort, of course
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