The only reason Wormtail was friends with James, Remus and Sirius was because they were the powerful at the times of schooling.

Then Wormtail betrayed them because of a more powerful being, Voldemort.

I have reason to believe in the future, Wormtail with either:

A) Feel AWFULLY guilty for betraying them. and returning to Harry's side to fight against Voldemort. Especially being spared his life, He owes Harry an awful great amount.

OR

Join Harry's side because HE is more powerful than Voldemort.

Imput?

Wormtail knows if he returns to Harry, Harry will most likely 1.) turn him in to MoM 2.) kill him


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I dunno... Would he really kill him? Harry isnt a killer, not yet at least. Gut is gonna tell him not to Kill Wormtail. BUT then again you never know. I'd just love to see Wormtail switch sides and join his own side or something...

Harry despises Wormtail...and now that Sirius is gone, he probably despises him all the more for being involved with those who have destroyed the three people he cares about the most. I think Harry is sufficiantly unhinged to become a murderer.

I don't think he could murder...not yet anyway, I mean he couldn't use the Cruciatus curse effectively when he was erally angry. I don't think he'd hae enough power to actually kill someone. However, I don' think wormtail will go back to the good side, considering they prolly won't accept him. He's betrayed them more than once, plus they know he's only in it for power.

Well then what about Snape? I've always wondered about what he always did switching sides... I dunno... Its still possible to USE Wormtail against Voldemort, even if he isnt liked very much... And I still strongly believe Harry is not quite yet able to actually kill someone unless it was like Bellatrix or Voldemort. The people who ACTUALLY killed the three people closest to Harry. What do you think?

Remember Dumbledore told Harry that beacsue Harry saved his life Wormtail is now in his debt? There is more magic than just spells in Harry's world like Love which saved his own life. I think Wormtails survival will be a very good thing in Harry's future.

i think that no matter what peter will somehow save harry's life

Yeah. In one way or another I think Wormtail is just going to realize what a good friend James and co. was and he'll save harry at the very last moment giving harry time to finally finish voldemort or something. Good exciting scene? no?

[quote]Well then what about Snape? I've always wondered about what he always did switching sides... I dunno... [/quote]

Well, Snape switched sides before the end of the first war which showed that he wasn't in it for the power and he hasn't turned away from Dumbledore's side since then. He's solidly on the good side. As for Wormtail, everyone knows he only follows whoever's more powerfull at the time.

I think Wormtail is gonna hurt more of Harry's friends before he turns back to save Harry's life. And I don't think Wormtail does it for power, because if he was friends with whoever has more power, he woulda joined Albus right? I think Voldemort gives him more rewards and prizes than power and protection.

I still think Its the power and protection. During the war Wormtail switched sides believeing at the rate Voldemort was going, He would soon reign everything. However Harry didnt die and Wormtail still believes Voldemort will still be in Power. Unless Harry can show power and protection Voldemort cant, Wormtail is going to stay with Voldemort. If Harry can however, Wormtail will most likely apologize and try and get to the good side. Sure he wont be tried later for his actions to harm his 2 other friends, but you know, twists and turns in these books.

i think that voldemort will try and get wormtail to kill harry, but wormtail wont be able to do it because of his debt.
and i know that voldemort would rather kill harry but because of the prophecy i think that voldemort is gonna try to get harry murdered so that he doesnt have to fight.

But Harry cannot die, by any other than Tom. So, theory rejected!

dang, it sounded smart too.
ok wait, same theory, but wormtail cant kill harry NOT because of the debt, but because of the prophecy

Yes, becuz of the prophecy, but nice try, sorry to shut u down

hm... good point. Must be Voldemort to kill harry huh? What if harry just randomly died from lightning bolt or something? now THAT ought to be interesting....

If that did happen, I would bow down to you....kinda wierd though, how the scar is lighting bolt. How/Why did Voldemort make it like that? Recoil or what?

Well, I remember JK saying that the shape of the scar isn't the most significant part.

Remember when Harry said in Ootp that he "couldn't kill anyone"?

But maybe...maybe he'd have to enjoy it, or really want to do it, to be able to kill.

Remember when he tried the Cruciatus curse on Bellatrix after she was mocking him and Sirius? Bellatrix said that righteous anger wouldn't hurt her? That Harry would have to enjoy it?

I think Wormtail will die in 6 saving Harry from Voldemort. Dmbledore did say that Wormtail would do something to help Harry because he owes him his life.

The whole lightning shaped scar thing always makes me wonder...

Also Wormtail is probably going to make a huge impact or a turn in the movie. Maybe suspciously disappear again after saving harry or something lol

Yes, I think Wormtail will do that as well.

Wow! Finally, I agree on something with Shuntpike. Hats off to you. XD

lol, me too. I finally agree as well, **bows in greetings**

Pettigrew will most likely die saving Harry Potter.

You should provide some back up points and views to this.

I HATE WORMTAIL!!!!!
HOW COULD HE BETRAY PADFOOT, MOONY AND PRONGS!?
Now Padfoot and Prongs are dead! Poor Moony, I feel so sorry for him.
I HATE WORMTAIL!!!!!

I think that deep down, Harry will always hold a grudge, or sorry not quite the word to cover it, DEEP HATRED against Wormtail because it was he that betrayed Harry's parents. He does owe Harry a lot, so I agree with most of your theories that Wormtail will probably die trying to save Harry. Voldemort will kill him, I think this mainly because Wormtail in the GoF seemed so devoted, so loyal, and most of all so willing to do anything at great lengths just to please Voldemort. For Voldemort to witness Wormtail betray him to save his very own enemy [Harry, of course] he would kill Wormtail in hopes of continuing further to his goal from the very beginning, Harry's defeat and death. I gave this one a lot of thought.

I think..........ah nvm sorry everybody, i forgot.

Well.. Wormtail may be a whimpering fool, and an abnormally annoying rat, but he's got brains.

He's got more brains than he's credited for. Maybe we haven't seen it yet, but I think Wormtail will either be an essential asset to the rise of Voldemort, as he already has, but more so.
Or 2 - Be killed on the Dark Lord's orders because he's useless now that he helped The Dark Lord regain a body.

Well I do think Wormtail will die, I'm just not sure how yet. I think it will be Voldemort who kills him though. Either because he was trying to kill Harry and Wormtail saved him or because Voldemort got fed up with him and just killed him or whatever.

Yep Pettigrew will die. And i Realized something too. In the books the Marauders were mentioned in the order Monny, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs.pongs was the 1st to die then Padfoot, it is in reverse order so i htink maybe lupin dies last.

Wormtail?! Harry would'nt trust him even if he did support Harry... which he would'nt do..if he did, it must be a "Trap"

AAAAAAAAAH! You guys, I think I found a clue!
Well, I'm re-reading all the books. I've just finished PoA again, and at the end, Dumbledore says something I find really interesting.

This is just at the end of PoA, so if anybody hasn't read it yet, DON'T READ! It'll spoil all the fun

Here goes:

"But-I stopped Sirius and Professor Lupin killing Pettigrew! That makes it my fault if Voldemort comes back!"
"It does not," said Dumbledore quietly. "Hasn't your experience with the Time-Turner taught you anything, Harry? The consequences fo our actions are always so complicated, so diverse, that predicting the future is a very difficult business indeed...[...] You did a very noble thing in saving Pettigrew's life."
"But if he helos Voldemort back to power-!"
"Pettigrew owes his life to you. You have sent Voldemort a servant who is in your depth. When one wizard saves another wizard, it creates a certain bond between them...and I'm much mistaken if Voldemort wants his servant to be in the depth od Harry Potter."
"I don't want a bond with Pettigrew!"said Harry. "He betrayed my parents!"
"This is magic at it's deepest, it's most unpenetrable, Harry. But trust me...the time may come when you will be very glad you saved Pettigrew's life."

SOOO...I don't remember if that already happened, but please, tell me what you think of this!

And I forgot, was Pettigrew in the Ministry in book 5? At the end?

Yes, I've thought on that phrase many times before but when Wormtail emerge in the graveyard scene in GoF I'm a bit surprised when he didn't seem to acknowledge his debt to Harry. In fact, he himself had cut our Harry's right arm and withdraw some amount of blood to complete the spell that bring back Voldemort to life.

Now then, I thought maybe JKR had e bigger plan between Harry and Wormtail..maybe in the end, in the very last chance of survival Harry would remind him of his debt and he had to sacrifice himself to repay the debt.

Anyway, I was reading GoF just now, and I stumbled upon the part where Wormtail is tying Harry to the headstone in the graveyard scene. Wormtail had remained hooded at that time. When Harry had realize it was Wormtail, it was too late. Wormtail had stuffed Harry's mouth with some black material (probably clothes I assume) and Harry had been unable to say anything...and you might have thought...to remind him about his debt...

I dunno, it's 3 am and I couldn't think of anything else...

- Peter was not in the 5th book. He may have had other things to do for Voldie. Or maybe Voldie had Peter killed so that he could not repay Harry for saving his life.

- I know that this is going to sound really dumb but is DD really good? I know don't yell at me. It is just that in the 4th book when Harry tells DD that Voldie came back and that he used Harry's blood to do so DD had a triumpent look in his eyes.
- Is that because he really wants Voldie back...
- Or is it because Voldie may be more volnerable (sp?) now that he is more (possibly) human. Using human blood.

- I really don't know but I thought that it was interesting.

Hmm yeah several people pointed that part out about how Peter now owes Harry his life. I'm guessing that Harry will be saved in battle somehow by some near death experience from Voldemort, OR give Harry some secret information about their new plans?

Although, about how he needs to be reminded of the debt...Dumbledore says that this is one of the MOST POWERFUL bonds that wizards/witches can make. So why would he be reminded? I think Peter thinks about it everyday, but too much of a timid person to actually fulfill his debt, since he had a chance to in GoF.

But what I'm somewhat confused about is that why is he in debt? I mean, I know that Harry technically saved Peter's life, but Harry would have sent him to Azkaban anyway, living with the Dementors, making life feeling sad every single day...(I for one would rather choose death than this) So, I don't think Peter's in much debt. He was going to have a miserable time either way if he didn't escape.

Awww man. And I thought I was this incredibly super-intelligent girl because I noticed that.
Well, anyways, in the beginning of GoF, Wormtail asks Voldemort if he doesn't want to use another wizard than Harry to "fulfill his plans". So I don't think he needs to be reminded, cause it is magic AT IT'S DEEPEST, right? So I think he always thinks of it, and I think we will see what happens in the next books.

Tannis...we've talked about that 'look of triumph' somewhere else around here...can't think where though.....but I think the main gist of the discussion was that DD's look of triumph was because he was pleased that part of Harry is now within Voldemort which probably makes him vulnerable in some way. More than that though, if the bond between Harry and Wormtail is really that strong, and both of them contributed to Voldy's comeback, then maybe the three of them are now bound together...

I really don't think that Wormtail is beyond redemption and I'm pretty sure that JKR has said something along those lines herself....I don't think Wormtail is dead. I think that his presence is likely to be vital to the last two books because of this blood/power tie thing.....basically, then, there is one really good guy, one not so good guy and one totally evil guy all battling for the top position now within Voldemort's psyche which I'm sure will prove to be his ultimate downfall....along with the love thing too, of course.....it's bound to make Voldy weaker, being susceptible to feelings such as bravery, loyalty, friendship and so on because he just can't understand them. They'll be like a slow acting poison to him, you know?

But I agree with doomed....I doubt whether Wormtail ever thinks about anything else. Maybe that's why he tried to get Voldy to use someone else's blood rather than Harry's....maybe he didn't want to see Harry hurt and was trying to protect him in his own way, or maybe he was trying to protect his Master, knowing that if Harry's blood got into him, that it would make him vulnerable. He must have known that if Voldy gets defeated, then he's likely to end up sentenced to the Dementors kiss but if Voldy remains strong, then he must also be afraid of his Master tiring of him, or forcing him to do things that he doesn't really want to do - like hurting Harry to whom he owes his life. He must be really conflicted right now, knowing that he has this debt to Harry.....I bet he really doesn't know what to do for the best.....

You could almost feel sorry for him...in a way...

*hides under the table*

Okay, okay...so maybe wormtail do not need to be reminded afterall...I forgot about the earlier part where he ask Voldy to replace Harry with someone else...(you got me there,dana! )

I've been thinking about the 'look of triumph'.....maybe it was because even though Voldy got the blood from Harry, Harry still managed to escape....no, that's not it, it makes no sense....argh I'm useless at theories anyway.....but maybe the 'look of triumph' is because DD expected Voldy to be so greedy to want Harry's blood, and there's something with Harry's blood that will somehow affect Voldy negatively- positively for DD.....
I think that DD knew what Tom Riddle was going to become.....after all, in Harry's falling into the diary, DD tells Tom Riddle something along the lines of "stop wandering around; go to bed", as if he knew tom riddle was looking for something he shouldn't find....DD is a Legillimens and probably was back then too....just think of the possibilities......he probably knew the future is so incredibly hard to predict that he tried to not meddle with Tom Riddle and somehow encourage him to work harder at the Dark Arts....again, think of the possibilities......

Well, I dont think Peter is concered about his debut to Harry right now. For some reason I dont have the feeling that he even knows about it. But maybe now that Voldy has Harry's blood, he can die now. I remember JK saying that one question we should ask ourselves is how did Voldy make it so he couldnt die, and now he has Harry's blood. Maybe thats why Dumbledore gave that look of triumph. Cause another question JK told us to wonder about was I think how much Dumbledore knows, so yeah, I just think now Voldy can die since he has Harry's blood.

The Thing is tho harry also saved ginny's life in CoS so that means harry has a "bond" with ginny.

Hey, yeah, that's an interesting idea! I didn't think about that. But if he saved Wormtail, and he has a bond with, and saved Ginny, then he should also have a bond with her! *scratches head*. Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it?

I'm not sure if he has a bond with Ginny because he has this deep dark hatred for Wormtail, espically at that moment when he is face to face with the traitor who is the very reason he was denied parents for his life. So he was sort of making a sacifice, letting the person he has such deep hatred for go instead of seeking his revenge. While with Ginny there was no sacrifice, he had to save her because she was a friend, a member of the family he thinks of as his own and so much more. Its a different kind of thing, he wanted her to live, he wanted to live. While with Wormtail he let a killer go, not an innocent person live. Its hard to explain, but lets hope you understand.

Yes, but DD SAID that there was a bond between him and Harry! And if DD says something, I beleive him! "I'm a beleiver!" OK, right, . (Don't ask... )

Peter is in debt to Harry. Sometime in the books I think Peter will either sacrifice his life for Harry, or else save Harry's life.

Dumbledore said that because Harry saved Peter pettigre's live, they'll be a conetion between them. will it saved Harry's live you think, does Peter have to sacrifice him self for harry or something?