TheMagicHamster
Jul 19 2005, 01:53 PM
Okay, I am not sure if there is anything special about this quote, but after reading the book it is one of the most memorable things that I read. In Chapter 26, when they are leaving the cave, Harry and Dumbledore have this dialogue:
"It's going to be alright, sir," Harry said over and over again, more worried by Dumbledore's silence than he had been by his weakened voice. "We're nearly there. . . . I can Apparate us both back . . . . Don't worry. . . ."
I am not worried, Harry," said Dumbledore, his voice a little stronger despite the freezing water. "I am with you."
I don't know but the 'I am with you' line gets to me. WHo knows, maybe I'm just thinking too hard but let me know what you think.
Levicorpus
Jul 19 2005, 02:15 PM
Its proably speical because in dumbledoe time of weakness he put his life in harrys hands and showed the amount of trust they have
Disappointed
Jul 19 2005, 02:16 PM
Funny, I've been thinking about it too.
The fact that Dd says "I'm not worried, I'm with you" and then just freezes Harry and lets himself dies is wierd...
Maybe it's just some kind of after effect from the potion he'd just drank.
Or maybe it _is_ something important...
Sorry, not much help there!
Ian Adams
Jul 19 2005, 02:19 PM
When all was said and done, Dumbledore must have known that Harry had helped him endure that potion. I'm sure Dumbledore would feel a particular fondness for Harry, even more so than before, for helping him complete the task ... which, incidentally, was not easy for either of them. I got the chills when Dumbledore screamed for Harry to kill him.
SakuraBlossom
Jul 19 2005, 02:25 PM
I think it's more to do with what happens in book #7.
Dumbledore knows he's gonna die (Dumbledore death was planned, he asked Snape to kill him for Harry has to continue is adventure alone). I'm with you is refering to even though Dumbledore is gone in body he will be with Harry in spirit guiding him along the way.
Hope that makes sense.
Sirius_Obsessed
Jul 20 2005, 10:53 AM
i reckon that was just Dumbledore's expression of ecouragement to Harry. Because, Harry thinks so highly of Dumbledore and Dumbledore knows this, so by telling Harry that he was not scared just because he was with Harry is an indication that its not only Harry that thinks higly of him, but he who thinks highly of Harry. Because i agree with the Snape-is-innocent theory, DD must've known he was going to die, and i guess he just wanted to make Harry feel stronger. It would be more than encouraging to know that your mere presence is enough to make someone you think so highly of not worried.
Hallia
Jul 20 2005, 11:08 AM
At the begining of the book, when DD takes Harry away, he tells Harry he doesn't have to worry while he's with him. At the ned he says it the other way around. I think this is because DD thinks Harry is a really powerful wizard, as he's already showed, but also by trusting Harry so much and leaving his life in Harry's hand he is giving Harry a blow to his pride, making him believe that he can really do whatever he wants to do, but also giving him confidencºe that he can really Apparate both of them back, which was good as Harry had only Apparated twice by himself, and one of them he'd been guided by DD.
Pinion King
Jul 20 2005, 12:14 PM
DD most likely froze Harry because he didn't want Harry getting involved and getting killed, because of how important he is.
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Lily_Potter_1243
Jul 20 2005, 09:52 PM
I agree with Pinion King. DD knew that Harry would have intervened if he had been there in a position to help. It didn't mean that DD didn't trust Harry, DD was merely freezing him for his own good.
Aphrodite
Jul 21 2005, 01:30 AM
I don't know if it's significant or not, but at this point I started tearing up...It struck me then that Dumbledore was probably going to die(I know I'm slow

) What a lovely quote:
| QUOTE |
| I am not worried, Harry," said Dumbledore, his voice a little stronger despite the freezing water. "I am with you." |
That's going in my sig as soon as I can manage...
Xandra
Jul 21 2005, 04:57 AM
| QUOTE (Sirius_Obsessed @ Jul 20 2005, 04:53 AM) |
| i reckon that was just Dumbledore's expression of ecouragement to Harry. Because, Harry thinks so highly of Dumbledore and Dumbledore knows this, so by telling Harry that he was not scared just because he was with Harry is an indication that its not only Harry that thinks higly of him, but he who thinks highly of Harry. Because i agree with the Snape-is-innocent theory, DD must've known he was going to die, and i guess he just wanted to make Harry feel stronger. It would be more than encouraging to know that your mere presence is enough to make someone you think so highly of not worried. |
Yes, that's it exactly, I'm sure. The greatest wizard of all time is saying that he's with you, he isn't scared... that would be encouraging to anyone.
Atlas81
Jul 21 2005, 06:27 AM
I think that this line is the counterpart to Harry’s line about being ‘Dumbledore’s man through and through.’ It shows the unbreakable bond of trust between them. It is one of the greatest lines in the entire book and shows Dumbledore’s great love for Harry. Oh, I’m going to miss that man…
razzberry2
Jul 21 2005, 11:05 AM
I'm inclined to believe Dumbledore said that to Harry as a way of showing him how much he believes in him.
It was an incredibly vulnerable thing for Dumbledore to admit, I think, and it would have registered in Harry how much faith Dumbledore really has in him.
I think Dumbledore has spent the whole of HBP preparing Harry to stand alone and to believe in himself. He has ingrained in Harry the belief that the path Harry must take, is a path that Harry has also chosen, not been forced upon him.
Everything Dumbledore has done with Harry in this book, has empowered him, giving him the ability and confidence to face his destiny.
Maybe...
caitlin_usa
Jul 21 2005, 05:12 PM
Yeah this was an incredible boost of confidence for Harry. As you may have noticed Harry is always quite bummed at the end of the year, having to go back to the Dursley's and what not, but this time he was set on his mission of finding the Horcruxes and then defeating Voldemort. Harry, despite feeling terribly sorry about Dumbledore's death, was in good spirits at the funeral (as in good spirits as anyone could be)--possibly because he knew that Dumbledore believed in him to the fullest. I think Harry's attitude at the end of the book was the best attitdue he's ever had at the end of the year--he's showing how much more mature he's become through all of the many experiences he's had. He's accepted his fate as the "Chosen One" and intends to carry out his mission to the fullest. I think that Dumbledore's quote in the cave is really wat triggered this new sense of responsiblity with Harry--heck he even let's Ron and Hermione help when usually he tries to do it all on his own... the next book is going to be a great story of teamwork and loyalty--I can tell
jds
Jul 21 2005, 09:48 PM
When Dumbledore said that I immediately remembered Harry saying the same thing to Ron and Hermione just as he was leaving-- he left them the felix felis potion and when they told him he should take it instead he said something like "I'll be fine, I'll be with Dumbledore"
I think y'all are right that it was very symbolic of their relationship and the enormous amount of respect they both have for each other.
Juk
Jul 21 2005, 10:58 PM
what I didnt get is why he makes the statement he is feeling save and then freezing harry when he needs him, doesnt make sence at all
so I think the quote is very important
it supports the theories that dd had something planned because harry could have easily "expelliarmus'ed" draco from under his cloak and then there would be more than enough time for dd to get his wand and make his next move
dumbledoresgirlthroughandthrough
Jul 22 2005, 04:27 AM
I can't be sure on the signifigance of this quote, but it holds by far the most meaning of anything said in the book.
R.I.P. Dumbledore
mudblood
Jul 22 2005, 07:08 AM
Yeah... I think that DD wants Harry to know that he trust him so much and at the same time boost his confidence. Maybe DD knows he's gonna die and that even if he will not be there to help Harry in his battle with LV, Harry can do it alone.
Dumbledore's_Hat
Jul 22 2005, 01:28 PM
As some of you probably know by now, this is TOTALLY my favourite line in the book, almost in the whole series, bar the line in POA when Harry reaches out, with trembling fingers to touch his Patronus, and whispers 'Prongs', but that's beside the point... :-)
I got confused with whether it meant that Dumbledore wasn't afraid because he was LOOKING after Harry, or BEING looked after Harry, if that makes sense?
But after reading Chapter 4, and Dumbledore tells Harry not to worry because 'You are with me', just means that this quote is a role-reversal within the book, and confirms Dumbledore's total faith in Harry.
*sigh*
R.I.P. Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore. Miss you, Love you.
gotta_luv_harry_potter
Aug 6 2005, 06:32 AM
That quote really stuck out for me to....I thought it was adorable!

I agree with everyone who said that it was just a way to show the amount of trust and faith they have in eachother. It is also a nice confidence booster. It is always nice to know that one of the most powerful wizards of all time trusts you with his life.

I know that this is off topic but I still don't understand why Dumbledore freezes Harry? Why couldn't he disarm Draco and then freeze Harry? Why freeze Harry at all? Sorry again because I know that is off-topic!

It is still driving me crazy though!!!!
HagridsHero
Aug 6 2005, 01:34 PM
To me this was Dumbledore passing the torch - so to speak - to Harry. Even if he didn't know what was going to happen back at Hogwarts, I have a feeling he thought that the potion that he drank would severely impair his abilities for the future. He was giving Harry the knowledge that their respect for each other was mutual and that Dumbledore now had faith in Harry's abilities to handle things in the future.
littlexoxlotte
Aug 6 2005, 02:54 PM
yea, that quote kind of gets to me too, i think its more of DD saying harry i trust you, more than anything
Krys_58
Aug 22 2005, 11:04 PM
i think this sentence is important and maybe this was the final event that proved harry was or is ready to defeat voldermort. dumbledore just needed to tell harry that to give him reasurance. or maybe dumbledore never saw himself or voldy to be the greatest wizards, he thought harry was...
talli_tastik
Aug 28 2006, 09:30 PM
i think its because dumbledore knows what a great wizard harry is i think harry will grow up to be like dumbledore the powerfullest wizard ever and dumbledore knows that but harry dusnt know and dd isnt scared when hes with harry because harry wouldnt let anything bad happen to him would he
proffesor
Feb 14 2007, 08:56 PM
i think people are taking the statement out of context he's not saying im with you harry and nothing else he said im not worryed im with you harry he leting harry =know that he has confidence in him not telling harry that he's there for him
Moon(I luv you Luna)
Apr 17 2007, 05:43 AM
Every time i hear that line, it makes me very depressed ... *sob*
I don't see any signifigence, but it's got a powerful meaning, and when i read it first time round, i cried.
It was very signifigent to Harry. Knowing that his headmaster isn't afraid because he's with Harry is very touching. Just like "Dumbledore's man through and through."
Aw. R.I.P Dumbledore.
snapeslittlewitchie
Apr 17 2007, 05:55 AM
I think Dumbledore just wanted Harry to to know that he trusts him fully. Dumby put his full trust in Harry and maybe he thought that if he knew that, he'll have more confidence in himself or do his best and stuff.
Let's all support Severus Snape!!!
Hermione17
Apr 24 2008, 04:43 PM
I think the quote means a few things rolled up in one. First...DD is letting Harry know that he's "okay" and that he trusts Harry to get them both back to safety. But more importantly I think it means that DD will always be with Harry. DD knew he was dying...just from the curse from the ring. He's a very intelligent wizard and he knew he had just consumed poison. He was dying and he wanted Harry to know he would be there ALWAYS. And he was...in the clues he left Harry and Co. in DH. In the snitch, the book, and the diluminator. Not to mention when he was there for Harry after Voldy killed him in "Kings Cross Station" in DH. So I think the main meaning of "I am with you" Is just that...he is with Harry..always.
Hermione
Harry James Potter
Apr 26 2008, 08:04 PM
I think that this thread is reading a little too much into this quote. When DD says that he's not worried because he is with Harry, it is not implying that he will always be there for him. It's simply saying that he trusts Harry with his life, and therefore is not worried about being helpless in the hands of Harry.
This line touches home for some people mainly because this is when DD comes out and says in his final moments that he loves Harry and trusts him blindly.
PotterIsTheChosenOne
Jan 3 2009, 02:23 AM
I think Dumbledore knows that Harry is going to get him back to Hogsmeade and then to Hogwarts because he was going to be killed by Snape.
This is just my opinion, but I think Dumbledore knew that Harry wanted to collect the Horcruxes so he can defeat Voldemort because Harry is the only one who could defeat him and because Harry is such a superb wizard, Dumbledore knew that Harry would be able to save him.
harryjpotter
Jan 17 2009, 02:32 AM
"I am not worried, Harry," said Dumbledore, his voice a little stronger despite the freezing water. "I am with you."Dumbledore is showing the same faith in Harry that Harry has always had in Dumbledore, that with Dumbledore around he is safe and that he will come to no harm.
It also shows how much Dumbledore values Harry's loyalty to him; that he trusts Harry so much as to put his life in Harry's hands.
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It could also be a reference to DH where Dumledore guides Harry, even in death.
ChannelingGinny
Jan 18 2009, 03:41 AM
When I first read that line,
"I am not worried, Harry," said Dumbledore, his voice a little stronger despite the freezing water. "I am with you."
what immediately came to mind was a parent/child relationship. If you are a parent, then you know the feeling of your child fully trusting you to take care of him. If you are still a "child" (as in, not a parent yet) then you can remember how it felt to fully trust your mom or dad to take care of you; no matter the situation, they would protect you. I read this particular line as a complete role reversal - Harry was now the protector and Dumbledore was ready to let Harry take care of/protect him. I even imagined Dumbledore in a child-like state, he was injured (blackened hand), he had just drank some very potent poison, he was cold and wet; I just saw him as very vulnerable and he looked to Harry to take care of him. Harry may not have understood the significance of that statement, though.
nevillesgirl
Jan 23 2009, 10:26 PM
For me, I just think of a passing of the torch. Throughout the entire series all we hear about is how Voldemort feared DD and how with DD around Harry couldn't be touched. With this one line, it was almost as if Dumbledore was saying 'You will now be the one people will have faith in. You will now be the one that makes people feel safe. Your presence is now the one that will irk Voldemort'
Also remember in the beginning of HBP when DD and Harry are leaving Privet Drive to fetch Horace Slughorn and DD asks Harry to have his invisibility cloak and his wand ready? Well then he says something like he doesn't think Harry will have to worry about being attacked and Harry asked why. DD's reply was 'You are with me'. It is kind of like a role reversal at this point. Dumbledore has just put the lives of the world in Harry's hands as he had been taking it personally to protect them from Voldemort all those years...it was now Harry's turn.
acidpop
Jan 23 2009, 11:30 PM
Nevillesgirl, I couldn't have said it better myself.
It was particularly touching to me when I read that. It was like all the training Harry had received since he had started Hogwarts had paid off. I felt like finally DD was seen as vulnerable. I got tired of him a lot because I thought he was so manipulative. I think it showed Harry a lot of respect that DD thought him capable and trusted him. What DD said in that state means so much more than what he had told Harry so many times in his office.
harryjpotter
Jan 25 2009, 05:21 PM
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Nevillesgirl, I couldn't have said it better myself.
It was particularly touching to me when I read that. It was like all the training Harry had received since he had started Hogwarts had paid off. I felt like finally DD was seen as vulnerable. I got tired of him a lot because I thought he was so manipulative. I think it showed Harry a lot of respect that DD thought him capable and trusted him. What DD said in that state means so much more than what he had told Harry so many times in his office.
I like what you said there about touching. That's how Dumbledore himself saw it. Also what you said about Dumbledore showing him respect through his trust and it really did prove that Dumbledore himself placed faith in Harry.
opie
Jul 16 2009, 01:15 PM
The "I am with you" quote was the most memorable part of HBP to me. Earlier in the book, Harry is reassured of his safety because he is with Dumbledore. Now, considering Dumbledore's weakened state, the roles are somewhat reversed. Harry is looking after Dumbledore, and Dumbeldore has already realized that Harry is the important one in this whole situation.
FollowTheSpiders
Jul 19 2009, 12:15 AM
I like this line ALOT. It shows just how much Dumbledore cared for and trusted Harry. Letting a sixteen year old take you back to safety and comfort is pretty big, so the fact that Dumbledore isn't worried one bit shows that he really truly trusts Harry.
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