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silverness
They were saying that there was a high possibilty of the school closing down. So...what is to become of Hogwarts and their studies?

I think that Hogwarts will serve an important purpose...it might actually come useful to them (side of the Order)

This may sound a little off, but I think Hogwarts is going to become more like a refugee or battleground for the war. And I'm sure there are some things in Hogwarts that might become useful for the war that Dumbledore had always hidden.

I also think that something significant will happen related to the 4 finders.

What do you think?
xkrnt
As Harry, Ron and Hermione have expressed their intentions not to return to Hogwarts even if it does remain open this obviously means drastic changes throughout. Without having the school to structure the setting of the story around, I wonder how changed JK's writing style will be. Any thoughts?
Black old sun
I dont think that Rowling will completely ditch Horwarts. Anyways I am sure that Ginny will be going back so Harry will have to go back at some point.
KingWilder
I think the 7th book will have to take place at Hogwarts because that's the entire premise of the series: Harry Potter's adventures vs. Voldemort in wizarding school. Now that Hogwarts isn't an entirely super safe place (or because it will be by book 7) it'll give Harry et al a base of operations, or be the stage for the final showdown. Voldemort has an exceedingly strong tie to Hogwart's because it's where his identity solidified as a child and gave him the definitive importance he craved. He also has the jones for Hogwart's memorabilia (Slytherin's, Hufflepuff's, Ravenclaw's, & Gryffindor's collectors items). The OotP may have to set up there, too, since Sirius' house isn't safe. It may not function as a school so much as it has in the past, but I don't see Rowling abandoning it as a setting.
Nick
Hey - just thought I'd start this topic as I would be interested (as would others) to see your responses.

What will hogwarts be like without Snape and Malfoy?

Will Slytherin begin to shake off its name as the house that produces dark wizards, or will it be stronger?
Balderdash!
One thing is for certain, life will be easier for Harry at Hogwarts without them, but will he go back at all? He may feel that it's his duty to leave the school now that he knows what the job is ahead of him, he knows that he must keep The Death Eaters from terrorising the school again, so he may well stay well away from the school, period.

As far as Slytherin House goes, I think Slughorn will take over as head of that House, he's held that position when he worked at Hogwarts before, and he filled in for Snape at the end of HBP.

Sorry to go off topic a bit, but: Snape and Malfoy I think will join Voldemort. They won't go on the run - Snape has no reason to run from his master - and Malfoy is with Snape, so he has no choice as to where he goes, from now on. I don't think Malfoy will be killed either though, because this would mean that Dumbledore died completely in vain, and I don't think Rowling would want to do that to her readers. Voldemort has no reason really to punish either of them, so they will join him in hiding.
Louise
There has recently been a bit of an explosion in the future of Hogwarts threads too, so I'm going to merge a lot of them into this one and change the title of this thread to include all discussions pertaining to the future of Hogwarts (seeing as how this one seems to have been created first), but I must ask you guys to keep all discussion relating to the new teachers, new Headmaster/mistress and whether Harry and co will or won't return to the exisiting threads - just do a search and you'll find them or have a scroll around in this and the post-HBP forums.

Just discuss what will become of Hogwarts here, okay? Thanks...wink.gif

Alright, this is a post made by Parvati patil in a thread that was closed.

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Now when most of us have finish reading sixth hp book we all know that Dumbledore has died! Its a great loss to Hogwarts! Dumbledore was the heart of hogwarts school. Now when he has left the world do you people really think that hogwarts school will re-open? Professor Mcgonagall the new head-mistress of hogwarts school thinks that re-opening the school is not a good idea! Although some of the staff said dumbledore wouldnt have agreed to close the school but to continue it! Ofcourse it depends upon the ministry whether to open it or close it but now when dumbledore has died(oh i hate to say this!) it wont be the same hogwarts! Yes some of the decesions rely on parents too whether they would like their childrens to send back to hogwarts or not? but with voldemort returning back and dumbledore dying(i am sory i know you people hate to read it too) isnt it the fact that hogwarts is in more danger? Hope that harry hermione and ron finish their seventh and last year none other than in hogwarts! So lets keep our fingers cross and wish for re-opening of the school! what do you people should it re-open or not? lets discuss then!
Curious Black
Just an idea regarding the safety of Hogwarts...

Is it impossible to enchant Hogwarts by the Fidelius charm? Just let every student read and memorize a note written by the secret-keeper (ala Harry in Ootp reading DD's note in Grimmauld Palace)... In a very organized matter of course (Inside the Hogwarts Express?), to make sure the note doesn't fall into the wrong hands.
Lord Voldie
they wouldnt do that coz there's already bin a deatheater pupil (malfoy, obviously) and it could happen again
Curious Black
I would very much doubt that Draco Malfoy would be admitted to Hogwarts in his 7th year given that the entire ministry of magic would be looking for him as he is an accomplice for murder(?) And even in the unfortunate event that it falls into an enemy's possesion, he wouldn't be able to reveal the location of the school, since he is not the secret-keeper and is bound to the encahntment of the Fidelius Charm.

Anyhoo, my original question is, is it even possible to enchant a place such as Hogwarts with a Fidelius Charm? I am sure there are restrictions to the said charm.
Souljacker
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At the end of the book Harry said that he would not return to Hogwarts next year, even if it did open. But will he really live up to that. J.K Rowling has made so many of the important and interesting details in the book at Hogwarts, will she just stop and leave it all behind. Plus with the fact that DD's portrait is at Hogwarts, and assuming it will play a role in the next book, wont it mean he will need to go back to accumulate info that he so desperately is laking? Knowledge is weapon that has helped Harry throughout the books (hence the fact that the important lessons DD gave Harry were knowledge about Voldy and not spells and hexs.) In my opinion, the greatest place to recieve knowledge of all sorts is at Hogwarts.

Then again, if he does return to Hogwarts, how will he find time to destroy the horcruxs and Voldemort? Maybe he wont go to school at Hogwarts but return there when needed, when he needs advice from the portrait or the teachers.

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I think he will go back to Hogwarts to learn a little more about DADA and such.
Maybe he uses the summer holidays to go looking for the other horcruxes. He might find the locket in Grimold Place. And then there is Christmas, too.

Maybe he'll find help with the other horcruxes. As for Dumbledore trusting Snape and Snape saving Dumbeldores life last summer when he was injured after destroying the ring, Severus might know about the other horcruxes and even find out about their locations, now that he is best-buddies with Voldemort.

Flutterflie

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Hmm, I think Voldie planted one of his horcruxes at Hogwarts when he "requested" the DADA position from DD. It might be something of Gryffindor's or Ravenclaws, and he probably put it in the Chamber of Secrets thinking that the Basilisk would protect it. Harry will have to go back to Hogwarts to search for the last Horcrux, IMHO. (I hope anyway. I can't stand the thought of Harry not returning to Hogwart's his last year.)

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Someone better go back to Hogwarts in the 7th year! I've just got to find out if Madame Pince ordered a love potion from Fred and George and used it on Filch. She was lurking about when the students were talking about love potions in the library. Then she was seen standing with Filch before the funeral. Maybe she will soften him up a bit, hmmmm.
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harrietpotter
I really don't want Hogwarts to close. Harrys 7th and final year, they'll miss alot. NEWT's (maybe thats not so bad, only for Hermione tongue.gif ) Head Boy and Head Girl? Quidditch? Dumbledore said that Tom Riddle wanted the job at Hogwarts to learn more about the school, and maybe he did plant a Horcrux there? Maybe Ginny will have to go back so Harry might go back. Last battle at Hogwarts? Phoenix Headquarters? He does need to look for the Horcruxes but.. i don't know. Anything is possible
Nebuchanezzar
Isn't it written in 'facts we know about Harry Potter 7' or whatever, that Harry Hermione and Ron do some stuff at Hogwarts in book 7. If all those websites which list that information got it from JKR herself, then isn't it fact that they return to Hogwarts for yet another year?
starlight
i think hogwarts will go on i just think that not as many students will be coming back this year. especially harry, hermione, ron, and ginny, and posibly luna and neville. he could use some help finding the horcruxes.
Auror37
I honestly believe that Hogwarts will reopen because each of the Harry Potter books is another year for Harry. Having said that, I believe McGonagall will be the New Head Mistress. I believe Harry may actually learn something about the Horcruxes.

Then again, I can totally see it that Harry, Ron, and Herione stay true to their word and not return to Hogwarts, except on occasions to McGonagall or Dumbledore's portrait. But I do think Hogwarts will open.
LaStranger
My two pennies worth -

Harry returns to the Dursleys, learns a lot from Petunia before his birthday and his protection runs out. I think he'll leave before his birthday for safety reasons.

Harry then goes to Ron's place for Bill & Fleur's wedding. The trio express their plans to Ron's family about their "seek and destroy" mission. Word gets to McGonigell about their plans, and she comes to "talk some sense" into them. They agree on a compromise - they'll return to Hogwarts, but have some autonomy to where they can take extended leaves to chase down leads. They also must report to the Order of the Phoenix, and occaisionally one or more of them accompany the trio on their missions.

There - a simple way to have the best of both worlds! cool.gif
Spider22
harry dosent know enough magic to get near voldemort, so he will have to go to hogwarts at somepoint, otherwise the book wont have any warmth.
littlexoxlotte
i think it would be a boring hogwarts because there wouldn't really be anyone to get in harry's way... and i don't think harry will go back to hogwarts because he has to go find the 4 horcruxes
saralsaigh
I think that harry will not return to hogwarts at least not this year because he ron and hermoine have a lot to do... to find the rest of the horcruxes and destroy then and also avoid voldemort needs a lot of time and they wont have that if they go back to hogwarts but they can occasionaly visit the school for maybe i think another horcrux lies within its walls maybe in the roon of requirement where harry hid his hBP potion book...
Harry used to go back to hogwarts becasue dd used to protect him from voldemort but now dd is gone (sniff sniff) i think Harry wont go back not to be a student anyways... I would like to picture harry headmaster of hogwarts someday just like dd...with fawkes at his side...maybe?
Harry will definatly go to the dursleys and then to the burrow to attend the wedding and for him and ron to get their apparition test for it will be important since they will need to go all over the place and then to godric's hollow where they will learn something there i blieve burried in the ruins of the potter house maybe? but could be a horcrux there or a lead on one so they can get started i believe they will have headquarters in the order 12 grimauld place harry's house they will also find maybe another hint about horcruxes and go on from there thats wat i think anyways...
laurahonest
I agree with LaStranger. I makes sense in many ways. He promised Dumbledore that he would return to the Dursley's for a while. We know that he only has to stay for two weeks (if that.) He will be going to the burrow for the wedding. He will have to take his apparation test at some point after his birthday. As to returning to Hogwarts, I doubt that McGonagoll would make him return. I think that he will realize that he is not powerful enough to find and destroy all of the Horcruxes by himself. He will need McGonagol's help. He may be able to get special permission to leave Hogwarts to find the horcruxes or he may give the Order directions to where he thinks they are. If he is allowed to leave Hogwarts to find them I think he will be accompanied by Order members or Aurors to help him and to protect him. He will need all of the help he can get to succeed at his task.
Liza537
i think that Hogwarts will close down, because it'll be easier for JK to tell the story of how harry retrieves the Horcruxes without having to worry about him being at school. But we also know that Harry wasnt planning on going there anyway. So maybe if the school does stay open, it wont be mentioned as much as it would've if Harry were still attending it. But, yes, i believe Hogwarts may be the War battle ground. I mean think about it. Where else would the war take place? Where would be the perfect place to hold the war? In the mountains?? Possibly, but i think Hogwarts would be better with it's many classrooms, and wide grounds. And not to mention, the setting for all 6 books has pretty much taken place at Hogwarts.
Ollivander
I think that Hogwarts will most definitely stay open. In our world, education is valued as the most important gift a child can get--we can assume, since wizards are, after all, people like us, that they also value this.

Hermione tells Ron and Harry that Hogwarts is one of the three most important wizarding schools in Europe. Would Hogwarts really close down and turn 800+ students from its doors, even through the threat of Lord Voldemort? After all, if Voldemort is not defeated by the wizards of the present, who will challenge him later? The wizards who remain dull and stupid and ignorant becuase Hogwarts shut its doors to them? It just doesn't make sense for Hogwarts to close down.
phoniexphilte
I think that Harry will return to Hogwarts becasue Ron, Hermoinie, some of the teahers and other people will want him to go back. Also I don't think that the Dursley's will want him to saty home and Mr. & Mrs. Weasley will force him to go back. I think that Harry will also want to go ack to learn more about horcuxes for DD.
slytherinlvr
Snape and Malfoy are probably going to go into hiding wiht Voldemort. If Hogwarts does stay open (McGonagal said it might close) then Slughorn will probably take over as head if Slytherin and they will once again need a DADA teacher. But Snape and Malfoy not being at Hogwarts will be very odd.
Skillerz
of corse snape and malfoy are going return to voldemort, the mission was a success and where else do they have to go? i refuse to belive dumbeldor would have died just so someone so soft-in-the-head as malfoy could live, his death has to have had a higher purpose. i doubt harry will go back to hogwarts, the weaslys will respect his position and only advise him to go back. if he dose i think that blaise will have taken up the role of lead bully in slytherin, that is probably why jkr introduced him in hbp.
acdcrocks
i don't know if anyone remembers, but mcgonagall clearly stated that with voldemort on the loose, hogwarts will be closed. therefore theres no hogwarts for snape and draco to be in anyways.
another point, is that harry is making his way to godric's hollow. even if hogwarts opens, with the death of dumbledore, harry cant continue his studies until he's through with voldemort. so harry wouldnt be at hogwarts anyways.
Padfoot313
I have to disagree, I think Harry needs to go back to Hogwarts after the wedding, godric's hollow in order to learn more in order to take down Voldermort. As for the main question. I think Harry will have free reign to study and learn without Malfoy mouthing off and Snape constantly badgering him and putting him down. It may give him a new found confidence. Also, Slytherin will change with the percentage of evil people because families will not want their children to go to hogwarts unless they are convinced that their children are in houses that don't stand for evil and prejudice. Also, evil families may no send their children to school because they will enroll them with Voldy. like Draco.
ashleigh07
Padfoot313, this is the third post of yours which I've had to edit for personal abbreviations (that's "b/c" which should have been "because"). Could you please read through the forums rules before you post again? I know you've only been here about a week but that's no excuse because all members need to abide by rules. There are enough of us mods posting around for you to have noticed the rules link in our siggies, plus I'm sure you must have noticed our mod edits in other members' posts.

So please, be sure you type in full next time okay?
Skillerz
padfoot, padfoot, padfoot, why dose harry need to return to hogwarts? look who he has with him, hermionie. do you think there is even the slightest chance there is a book left in hogwarts she hasn't read, shes like a search engine to the magical world ... that works! and besides with what he's been through he will have learned more offensive and defesive spells than any sane teacher would.
Meggie
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do you think there is even the slightest chance there is a book left in hogwarts she hasn't read, shes like a search engine to the magical world


laugh.gif Very true! biggrin.gif

Right, well I really think that Hogwarts will still be open; even though McGonagall seemed doubtful, I doubt if the other teachers will let it close... unsure.gif it will probably be a lot smaller, though. I have a feeling that Harry will return, just not for the whole year. He will probably have many Dumbledore-like absences, or possibly leave for good after, say, Christmas. As for Malfoy and Snape... Well, Snape can't possibly return, can he? I mean, everyone thinks he is evil ph34r.gif . I guess this could make things a bit easier on Harry. Or maybe not - I always got the feeling that Snape was sort of an undercover guide for Harry. I have a strange feeling that Malfoy will come back to Hogwarts. I can't really explain it, as it doesn't appear likely... his being a Death Eater and all... but it's just a feeling. Maybe he will stop being a DE (actually I think this is likely), but then he would have to be in hiding. Hmm huh.gif , any thoughts?
Skillerz
i know snape saved harry's life in ps but i don't like the way he treats people, constantly putting down nevil and hermionie. it just dosn't seem like hes the sort to be a good guy.
Former Death Eater
I think that there will be a confrontation between Voldy and Malfoy, but it will be more of a punishment than an angry chewing out. Also I think Snape will intercede to stop the punishment. Hogwarts will not be closed or Ginny will want to go with Harry, Hermione and Ron to Godrick's Hollow also. And don't forget Dumbledor's portrait, Harry will definately have to go there to talk with him. So I believe Hogwarts will stay open.
Padfoot313
I apoligize for my b/c, which should be becuase, it is just natural and I don't even think about it when I do it. I have read the rules thank you, i will check my posts before I finally reply, promise.

Anyway, I beleive that at hogwarts he may be a little more safe, a little more free and less deensive. In other words, if he is at hogwarts with all the saftey and spells, he may be more protected. Remember, hogwarts was only intruded because of the cabinet, not because of the protection spells. I really think that other wizards will be able to use those protection spells, DD could not be the only one that knows him.

Also, without snape and malfoy, harry will be at ease (well not completely, but he won't be as flustered)
Tom_Felton_Luva
They r gonna appear in the 7th book 4 sure. I hope Draco kills harry!!! biggrin.gif laugh.gif


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HP number one Fan
No Draco cant kill Harry LV has to lol. I really wanted them to stay they made the book funny because all the funny and snide remarks were made at them or from them. I will miss Malfoy'd Idiocity and Snape's cruel but very sexy ways. gosh that guy rocks but i cant stand him killing DD. Alan Rickman will do fine in that scene he is sooo hot for his age as Snape obviously. wub.gif
Rickman-addict
i think that the book 7 will present a school without Snape and Malfoy but also without most of the students because of DD 's death.

I alos think that harry wong go back to hogwards....I have a bad feeling concerning this last book

slytherin without Snape will certainly weaker...and be put on a second plan in the story....

the war between Harry and Malfoy will increase in strength...same for the relation between Snape and Harry
amarata_lupin
I don't like the idea of a harry potter story without hogwarts, but will harry, hermione and ron return at any point. Harry did clearly say, if it does re-open he will not be coming back, and if ron and hermione are going to accompany him they will probably not be returning either. However will thier adventure lead them back to hogwarts, i hope so, becuase there really is no harry potter without hogwarts, i havent come accross a thread like this. Well not yet anyway. So what do you think, will we read about hogwarts in the final harry potter?
El Verte Veritas
If you look at any of JK Rowlings interviews about the number of books. She always says "Seven years, for the seven years at Hogwarts." I think its fairly clear that that means he'll be at Hogwarts for the seven books. Otherwjse, why base the number of books around that?
amarata_lupin
Good idea.... but what is going to lead him there....? what is going to drag harry away from looking for horcruxes, to come back to hogwarts?
El Verte Veritas
A mixture of people. Lupin, McGonnagal, Mrs. Weasley, Hagrid. Everyone will pressure him to returning. And I think they know that they have to. Sometimes Harry can be all talk in the heat of things (ie. When he first heard about Sirius he wanted to kill him, then PP came along, and he saved him), and doesn't mean what he says.
quortimer
Hogwarts is meant to be the safest place, even with Dumbledore dead.
SO maybe he will return for protection.
And I really hope he does go back to Hogwarts becasue all the lessons adn quidditch etc. are where the comedy comes from. lol
angel_lily
If the trio does return to Hogwarts it is to look for clues on the Horcruxes, like in the RoR, Snape's office, or Library. I believe it won't be a regular year. JKR says in an interview that the 6th book will be the last she rights a Quidditch match. Harry is too determined now too just go through another school year with less trivial things than the second war.
VividGreen
QUOTE (El Verte Veritas @ Apr 3 2006, 11:16 PM)
If you look at any of JK Rowlings interviews about the number of books.  She always says "Seven years, for the seven years at Hogwarts."  I think its fairly clear that that means he'll be at Hogwarts for the seven books.  Otherwjse, why base the number of books around that?

I don't think that's a valid point at all; you're taking her words too literally. If I were writing the books, I'd have planned 7 books for the 7 years he would spend at Hogwarts. I also think it's not necessarily about Harry's 7 years at Hogwarts, but about him coming of age which would obviously take 7 books seeing as how he comes of age at 17; it's just easier to say "for each year he's at Hogwarts" when answering a question like that because it doesn't give anything away and it's simple to understand.

With that said, I think Harry will definitely have to come back to Hogwarts for information and probably help from teachers, but I think it would be highly impossible for him to actually be a full time student and look for the horcruxes. I just don't see how that would be logical or possible, so therefore I highly doubt he'll come back as a student.
El Barto
I think I agree with what some have said in which he'll return but only at certain times. I think he will but to talk to Dumbledore's portrait or maybe discuss a different matter with McGonnagal. However, I also agree that it would be hard for him to be a student at the same time and it would be a little wierd if Hogwarts wasn't in it at all.

I don't think there will be a battle there, though there very well could be. I think it would be a sort of repetitive move if there was one because of what happened in the 6th book...
Fenixong
I don't like the idea of a HP book without Hogwarts either... It is such an interesting character in and of itself, that it would be a shame to "kill" it off... but death is a very big theme in the saga, so it wouldn't be surprising to me if Hogwarts just closed. sad.gif Snuffles dead... DD dead (probably)... who knows who will die in book 7. I hope the trio find lots of reasons to go back to Hogwarts. I don't expect that they'll end up living at the Dursley's (no reason to) or the Burrow (not safe?)... so maybe even if Hogwarts closes, they'll use it as a place to stay. The new HQ for the Order?

It begs the question... who OWNS Hogwarts? Does the ministry? It seems that it's fate is controlled (for the most part) by the governors... but it has never been clear how these governors are connected to the ministry. Are they elected representatives? That's a bit off topic, but it will probably come into play when they decide if they want to keep Hogwarts open or not.

Harry has always said that Hogwarts was more a home to him than anywhere else. I can't see him living on Grimmauld Place. Also, where would Hermione go to get her info without the library at Hogwarts!?! smile.gif

One thing that has been discussed a lot in other places is whether Harry/the trio really know enough to find the horcruxes, destroy them, and then kill LV... It doesn't seem like it to me, so if they need to learn more where would they go but Hogwarts?

Bottom line... I really hope Hogwarts stays open and the trio goes back!
El Barto
Unfortunatley for Harry, the subject of Horcruxes is banned from Hogwarts. He couldn't go to the library for more information on them even if he wanted to. Although I can see him going to Slughorn for more, assuming he stays of course.
Fenixong
QUOTE (El Barto @ Apr 6 2006, 01:14 PM)
Unfortunatley for Harry, the subject of Horcruxes is banned from Hogwarts.  He couldn't go to the library for more information on them even if he wanted to.  Although I can see him going to Slughorn for more, assuming he stays of course.

Yes, that's true, but there are many other things Harry will probably need to learn before he can even get to the horcruxes. LV went to a lot of trouble to protect the locket, so I'm sure he will have similar (but not the same) kinds of magical protection on the other horcruxes that will be equally difficult and dangerous to get through. I could even see Harry and Co. needing access to the restricted section of the library for that... SS/PS talks about the restricted section being off limits unless you have a special note from a prof which was normally only given to 7th years studying advanced DADA... which means there must be books about the dark arts there... maybe not about horcruxes, but the trio could certainly use more info about the dark arts if they're going to beat the greatest dark wizard of all time. They could get this by being taught by someone, but I hope JKR uses it as an excuse for them to go back to Hogwarts even if they're not students the whole year (I hope so at least). smile.gif
dungeonguard
I think that Hogwarts might be mentioned in the book, but will not be a main setting due to the search for the Horcruxes. I do believe, however, that Harry, Ron, and Hermione will re-visit Hogwarts sometime in the book.
Final
Maybe Hogwartz will be in there, I think it will since it has been in all the other books. I think that the final "battle" between Voldemort and Harry will take place but thats just my guess. And something very important will take place there. I just dont see the last book without Hogwartz at all.
The Only Harry Potter
I bet Is that Mcgonalgall and lupin and everyone else is going to perswade him to come back because it is so important.He will just tell mcgonagall when he will be leaving(He cant tell why,because dumbledore said not to) just like dumbledore did.
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