How Will Harry Kill Voldemort?

Maybe the Avada Kedavara curse. Or prehaps something as normal as a Knife. It is a possibility.

This is hard question and i cant think of much else except that.

Oh obviuously he will have to destroy all the horcruxes first.

This is another theory of mine, and, although I do not have tons of proof to back it up, there's still reason as to how it is very possible, as well as probable, and will sum up everything, and have it be linked together.

Voldemort will capture either Ron/Hermione/Ginny, or possibly all three, and will tell Harry that he (Voldy) will kill them, unless Harry gives himself up. Voldemort then kills Harry, but then kills one of the others, or again, all three. Now then...same downfall of Voldemort that he had sixteen years ago when Lilly died to save Harry. Harry dies to save his friends, so the curse rebounds, yet again, and finally kills Voldemort (this is, of course, after the other horcruxes are destroyed).

Dumbledore told Harry that the way he will kill Voldemort is with love (correct me if I'm wrong). Harry thinks that is pretty lame, 'cause he wanted to say, "So what?" after DD told him. He won't think it is love that he gives himself instead of having LV kill his friends, just that it is what any one of them would do for Harry, so he does it (I know I would give my life for my best friend, anyway). Comments??

Interesting thought, hp_obsessor! Welcome to the forums!

I like the thought of the curse rebounding again on LV because of love, because it would be a great way to kill him without the kids becoming murderers... I just wish that I could come up with a way to do it without loosing Harry.

I know that JKR said that one main character who was originally supposed to die was spared, and that 2 others were killed instead... aargh... I want a crystal ball and an O in Divination!

What if... Harry does throw himself in front of one of the others, and his love and willingness to die for his friends makes the curse rebound on LV yet again, killing LV with his own curse (after all of the horcruxes are destroyed.) Harry does not die, because his mother's protection still resides inside him, but not knoing that, he was really intending to die for them, which invokes rebounding of the curse, and none of the remaining major characters have to die.
According to DD, there is still some protection left for Harry from his mom. It doesn't expire when he becomes an adult, as do the spells that DD put on him, but last "forever."

Interesting thoughts hp_obsessor and samsmom, and welcome to the forums hp_obsessor! That would be an interesting ending to the series. I would love it if that happened (especially samsmom's revised version where Harry doesn't die because I really don't want Harry to die), but I can't help feeling that it would be a little too much of a happy ending for JKR. I think it is possible, but Harry would have to be sure that he did it in the same way that Lily did. JKR made it clear in an interview (sorry, I don't remember the exact interview) that the difference between James dying to protect Lily and Harry and Lily dying to protect Harry is that Lily was given a chance to flee. So I am not sure how that would work out because I don't think that Voldemort would give Harry a chance to flee. Plus, he is a pretty smart guy and I think he would learn from his mistakes. I think he would realize that if he did that exact same thing again, Harry would be able to leave protection for his friends. So, I think the first half where he has Harry come after them and Harry dies for them could work, but even if Harry left a protection, I don't think Voldemort would still let it happen again. I would love it if that happened, but I don't think JKR would actually do that. It wouldn't fit with stuff she has said in the past and wouldn't fit with Voldemort's character up until now.
It is a great and interesting idea, though. I really like that thought.

DOH! You're right, Potter4President!!!!!

It wouldn't work... for this reason:

The reason that James's sacrifice did not invoke the "old magic" protection for Lily and Harry, was that it was always LV's intention to kill James and Harry. He would have died anyway. For some reason, LV was intending to let Lily live. Lily voluntarily gave her life to save Harry. She could have lived if she just gave him up.

Since everything in LV's being wants Harry dead no matter what, the "old magic" can't be invoked by him. I can't imagine any circumstance where LV would offer to let Harry go while intending to kill someone else. He would have studied the old magic that caused the rebound the first time and will make sure not to repeat it again.

I still say, though, that we have not seen the end of Lily's protection for Harry... as shown in the quote in my last post.

Yes. I would agree with you, samsmom, on everything you said there. I do think it is likely that we haven't seen the end of Lily's protection for Harry. I don't know how it could help him now, but I think it will help him somehow. I certainly hope it will help him to survive. Does anyone have any ideas on how it could help him? It is always possible that something with Harry's friends and Harry sacrificing himself will happen and then the magic helps somewhat, just probably not the part about Harry protecting his friends and that finishing off Voldemort (as awesome as that would be). Is it possible that the protection will help Harry withstand minor jinxes and hexes or stuff other than unforgivable curses? I am not sure how that would work, but it could help him.

We think alike, Potter4president!!! I've noticed that on a lot of topics! That means we're either on the right track, or both nuts

Anyway, I've noticed that there are MANY mentions of poisons throughout the books... Snape mentions them in SS when he asks Harry about the bezoar, then again Snape threatens the class that he will poison them to see if their antedotes work, Ron is poisoned in Slughorn's office, and Harry gets away with the bezoar antedote in potions class in HBP. Even McGonnagall mentions poisons when she is giving Harry job advice in OotP. Now, if you think about it, Harry has avoided being poisoned twice. He was called out of that Potions class where Snape was threatening to poison someone... we all know who it would have been, had he not been called out for the wand weighing in GoF. He also could easily have been the one poisoned in Slughorn's office that day instead of Ron. I was thinking that Harry might be immune to poisoning, because of Lily's protection, and it could be that JKR was hinting that with all of the above.

Another thing... in OotP, when Harry is grabbed by Vernon when he is discovered under the window listening to the evening news from behind the bushes... It said that Vernon had a choke hold on Harry, and when it became extremely painful to Harry, Vernon yealped in pain as if something invisible kept him from holding on to Harry any longer. If you want, I can find the quote for this.

harry can kill voldemort withy out using the ak curse he can use secumptra srry about the spelling or maybe he will push him through the black veil or the demntors kiss

I'm sure Harry won't use an unforgivable course against LV though the theory of tricking him into destroying himself is highly possible.

I also thought about tricking the DE so that they kill their master instead of harry or something...

Or maybe he'll use his power against LV: love. He could trap LV so that he could be consumed by love or something.

Another theory is that Harry could trap LV in the Veil of the department of mystery the way Sirius died..

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i do not think the question is how will harry kill him the question is HOW will harry kill him when harry only has the power to love and love doesnt kill love heals


i no this is very cheesy but its what i believe harry will duel with voldamort until they are both very weak . voldy will cast the ak curse at harry and snape will sacrafice him self along with wormtail (both paying there life depts) and with every member of the DA harry will create the ultimate barrier of love witch will "vanquish" voldemort and leave tom riddle how he used to be before he became voldy

i do not think the question is how will harry kill him the question is HOW will harry kill him when harry only has the power to love and love doesnt kill love heals


i no this is very cheesy but its what i believe harry will duel with voldamort until they are both very weak . voldy will cast the ak curse at harry and snape will sacrafice him self along with wormtail (both paying there life depts) and with every member of the DA harry will create the ultimate barrier of love witch will "vanquish" voldemort and leave tom riddle how he used to be before he became voldy

i do not think the question is how will harry kill him the question is HOW will harry kill him when harry only has the power to love and love doesnt kill love heals


i no this is very cheesy but its what i believe harry will duel with voldamort until they are both very weak . voldy will cast the ak curse at harry and snape will sacrafice him self along with wormtail (both paying there life depts) and with every member of the DA harry will create the ultimate barrier of love witch will "vanquish" voldemort and leave tom riddle how he used to be before he became voldy

I must say you are wrong Samsmom. If you are implying that when LV tries to kill HP in book7 that something will happen to make LV stop, it should not happen. In GoF LV takes HP's blood and in doing so takes Lily's protection, sinceLV andHP have the same protection it is now possible for LV to harm HP without harming himself

good thought, phawkes...i never thought about the protection was taken from Harry in GoF...but why would Dumbledore have that "look of triumph"? after Harry tells him LV took his blood? Then, in book 6 when DD comes to take Harry away, he tells his aunt and uncle(correct me if I'm wrong) that the protection will be gone when Harry turns 17. (well, i dont remember if he tells it to his aunt and uncle exactly, but he tells harry this, at least)

I agree that Harry will not be able to get rid of LV. If you remember Bellatrix said in Order of the Phoenix that to perform an Unforgiveble Curse you want to cause pain. Someone else will kill LV or like y'all said LV will kill himself! Good topic!

I don't think it will matter, personally if he does use the unforgivable curse. Do you seriously think the minstry would give him any trouble? I mean, he used it on the Dark Lord! He killed the one everyone fears most. I can't even imagine him being in trouble for doing such an admirable deed. This is the simple way to look at it. all this stuff about "the power of love" is extemely abstaract. No one truly knows exactly how to define this unusual power.

I have a theory that.... Peter Pettigrew will kill Lord Voldemort. Now, before you dismiss this idea, please read my explanation and reasons for believing this.

Assuming that Pettigrew rarely leaves LV and is therefore with him for his final encounter with Harry, imagine you are him. You owe Harry for not killing you in Book 3. You also know it is possible that Harry will kill LV, your master, and in that event, you'd probably be captured and put into Azkaban for life. On the other hand, killing Voldemort yourself would almost automatically redeem yourself, and you'd be let off the hook. You would also have your freedom back, and not be tied to LV. So what would you do? Would you try to kill an unsuspecting evil LV?

Also, Dumbeldore says to Harry, "A day may come when you will be very glad you saved Pettigrew's life." This would make sense.

If you still think my idea is absurd, then thanks for reading anyway. Well, please reply! I would love to know what you think.

I think its a good idea, but I dont think it will happen. Does the prophecy not say "Either must die at the hand of the other" or something to that extent? So I think that the only way Voldemort/Harry can die is if the other kills them... atleast to fulfill the prophecy. i dont think pettigrew will kill Voldemort, but perhaps he will play a part in making it easier for Harry to kill him. Maybe he will tell Harry a secret about Voldemort or give him information about a possible horcrux. Just my thoughts! Ciao!

Good thinking! I hadn't realised that.
Change of theory:
Peter Pettigrew will assist Harry in a major way in killing Lord Voldemort
Thanks for your comments.

I always thought it was curious that a mother's love should only protect Harry until he is an adult. Like Lily wouldn't have done the same thing on Harry's 17th birthday, if Voldemort had attacked him then instead? A love like Lily felt for Harry would endure eternally, so it makes perfect sense to me that there should be some protection there even after he turns of age.

i think that Harry will have Voldemort wandless but he won't kill him. He just stands there, pointing the wand at Voldemort with every intension to kill him but something inside him won't let him do it. Voldemort wil use this to his advantage and get his wand back and perform the Avada Kedavara and it will kill Harry. But this releases a certain magic that also kills Voldemort. This happens because when Harry showed mercy on Voldemort, in a way saving his life, he started a deep bond between them. Voldemort was in debt to Harry but this bond was broken when Voldemort performed the curse. Since this bond is not a protection, Harry dies but since Voldemort owes Harry his life and did not repay him, the bond takes his life too. So in the end, Harry causes Voldemort's death but does not kill him directly.

To me this makes alot of sense because it's would not fit well with Harry's character if he killed Voldemort with an unforgivable curse. Besides, the thing that is supposed to help Harry defeat Voldemort is his ability to love. If Harry just performs the killing curse, then love does not come into play at all. Love does affect the death of Voldemort if Harry's ability to love and forgive keeps him from killing Voldemort although he has all the reason to do so. I explained this in more detail in another thread, i think it was in " Will Harry use an unforgivable curse?" That's just what i think will happen...maybe not exactly this way but i definately think that Harry will have a chance to kill Voldemort but he can't bring himself to do it and that in turn affects the story in a big wayy.

Harry was not able to kill Bellatrix because he only felt "righteous anger" toward her. He completely hates Voldemort, enough os that I think he would be able to kill him that way.
But I do not think that it the way it is going to happen, I think that the mysterious veil that claimed the life of Sirius will kill Voldemort

Dumbledore said to Harry,

" You have something that Voldemort doesn't have, love."

I think that Voldemort will try to kill Ginny or

Ron or Hermoine and the love will overpower Voldemort.

Assuming that Harry and Tom face each other all alone-after all Harry will have to come face to face with Tom if he intends to kill him or defeat him. I know that they have a mind connection, but it's not like a open ended remote access where you can shut down a system from a distance or delete all the files in the same way.

In order to overcome Tom, Harry will have to come face to face with him. What happens then? Dumbledore said that even a mortal Tom without his horcruxes would be a formidable wizard and it would require "uncommon skills and power" to kill him. In a face to face duel between Harry and Tom, Harry will be so outclassed that he'll barely be able to land a spell on Tom let alone Avada Kedavra. We all saw what Snape did to Harry and Tom is way way beyond Snape's league. Does Harry really stand a chance in that duel? As far as someone sacrificing their life for Harry is concerned, when the curse first backfired at Tom, he was unaware of any such protection, but after meeting Harry in the chamber, he figured out what had happened? Would he actually let the same thing happened again? Never. The protection that Harry received was due to his mother sacrificing her life even though she had a choice to live. Tom may not give that chance to anyone else, if he simply kills anyone who stands between him and Harry, then the protection would never be invoked since the person was never given the exact choice as Lily Potter.

Yes, Dumbledore has said that Lily's sacrifice leaves Harry with some protection forever, which prevents Tom from possessing Harry, prevents Tom from seducing Harry to his side, prevents Tom from entering his mind without risk. But it DOES NOT prevent Tom from firing Avada Kedavra at Harry. Does not prevent Cruciatus or any other spell from Tom's wand? Can Harry face that onslaught? With his current magical spells? No way!!

Then how does he defeat Tom? Does anyone actually have a clear answer? In all the discussions that I have come across on this site or elsewhere, I haven't seen one single response which gives a justifiable answer to this question. At most people resort to "JKR knows what she's doing". I agree, it's her book after all, but then we are here to discuss aren't we? The only plausible thing that I can see is Harry attempting to take out Tom in some sort of a suicide mission, just like a suicide bomber attack. Not to say that he'll actually use explosives, but that he'll attack Tom with the intent of sacrificing himself and taking Tom along. But I agree how and when, I have no idea. One on One, he stands no chance against Tom.

I think Jk is going to tell us how dumbledore "defeated" Grindwald. And Harry is going to use that way to kill Voldemort cuz i think Jk has put harry as such a pure image that he would not stoop to the level of just killing.

i think harry will trick voldemort into going through the viel in the department of mysteries. this would mean he wouldnt directly kill him but he would be in some way.

if he cant use magic, he could always use a knife

i think he will kill voldamort with the sectomsampera spell he used on drako in the GoF

but the people that said he might fall through the vail at the ministry is wrong because of the title it is more than likely going to happen in a grave yard

I'm not exactly sure how Harry will Kill Voldemort. I don't think he will use the Avada Kedavra curse though. Remember what Bellatrix said to him when Harry tried to use Crucio on her. He has to mean it. I know that when he kills Voldemort he will mean it, but we have to remember, will he mar his soul like that? He wants to defeat Voldemort, but doesn't necessarily want to commit murder. I think it might have something to do with the veil. Or perhaps Harry well get Lord Voldemort to kill himself somehow--it's obvious that it's not likely to be willingly or consciously, but it could happen, right? I just don't want Harry to have to live the rest of his life, tainted. His heart is pure, I would hate for that to be destroyed, but sometimes someone has to commit a great evil for the greater good.

It will either be the veil, love, Deathly Hallows, or Harry will knock Voldemort into Love Room.

That seems too simple or anti-climactic. I think there will be a GIGANTIC final show down and Harry will have to make a life-changing decision. It seems to fit the style of J.K. Rowling's writing.

In Ootp dumbledore said something that there is something worse than death. But i think the final battle will take place in the Deparment Of Mysteries because dumbledore said that there is a room locked in the Department of mysteries that what full of harry have but voldermort doesn't have. But the obvious choice is LOVE which voldermort didn't have when he was still a kid and harry is loved by everyone like ginny, hermione, cho, his parent and mrs wealey gave love to harry like a mother. when harry destroy all the horcruxes, when he will meet voldermort the last time, something will happen that harry and voldermort will be taken to the locked place in D-O-M and that where voldemort will be weak and where harry finally killed voldermort.

I don't think Harry will kill Voldemort, I think a demontor will perform "the kiss" on him but I agree that the showdown wil likely be performed in the department of mysteries (or beyond..) There are 2 important things that suggest it will be in the department of mysteries, one being the room of love, the other being the room containing the veil to the world of the dead. Both rooms will probably have some part to play. The cover seems to indicate that there will definately be a showdown either in the room with the veil (there are curtains either side of the picture) or they will somehow step beyond the veil, into the world of the dead. Maybe the room of love could somehow be used to stop / destroy the dementors in the end..what do you think?

Maybe, i totally forgot about the veil that contain the world of dead.Thank for mentioning but you reckon that harry can bring back to life all the people he love in book 7. Do you reckon behind the veil contain inferi or something worse than death which dumbledore said to harry. Or i think the the (dementors kiss) is worse than death. what you reckon. But there can't be anything worse than death.

Behind the Veil , do you think that it contain inferi or something worse. Dumbledore said there something worse than death , i still can't figure out whats worse or is the (dementors kiss) the worst thing than death. Its possible its the dementors kiss because in book 3, peter pettigrew was really scared when harry said to give him to the dementors to perform the kiss and same to sirius when he was captured at hogwarts were the dementors will do the kiss.

I don't think Voldemort will have the dementors kiss mainly due to the fact that the dementors are on his side though probably some magic based on love will kill voldemort though harry will have to realise just what is needed as at the end of HBP he couldn't cast a single spell on Snape so much training will be needed to even think of fighting Voldemort

But you are certainly wrong because harry suppose to be the chosen one and his power will grow and he will become more powerful and i find a fact from Book 7 that harry will won't to keep away from ron, hermione and ginny because his power is becoming too strong when he teach them some of spells he knows, that they are getting hurt when harry he only using simple spells on them. i think harry will become really powerful because he is turning 17th in the book and his growing to become the most powerful wizard. he is only the person who can do a patronus charm in the whole of hogwarts student. i think the weakness of harry is when he become angry. But i think he will killed voldermort but he will have to learn a lot because in book 5 , when Dumbledore and voldermort were duelling, they made spells which harry had never hear and seen. Dumbledore and voldermort are the greatest wizard ever and the only way harry can defeat voldermort is with courage and love.

A dementor could not kill Voldemort. Only 1/7th of his soul actually resides in his body as the other 6/7ths have been made into horcruxes. As we have seen with the diary and the ring, even if parts of Voldemort's soul has been destroyed, he is still very much alive despite missing said parts of his soul. Therefore, the possibility of a dementor's kiss actually killing Voldemort is rather unlikely.

my opin ium is that in the end of the book..... harry will not be able kill voldemort and i think he will lose to kill him.........

LV won't die. DD seems to always know what is going to happen, and he has clearly said that he wishes something worse than death on LV. So what does LV fear the most? Death... or does he fear the thought of death and thus the unknown? This being the case what could be the worst fate for LV? To know that death is inevitable, have no idea what happens when it comes, and be completely powerless to stop or slow it from coming. Basically, he will be POWERLESS.

In the end, through some spell, or ancient magic, or combination of such, LV will be completely drained of 100% of his powers, and turned into a muggle or a squib. It seems that a strong emotional upheaval can drain a wizard of his powers (the emotional shock LV's mother was dealt caused her to loss her powers). Harry will uncover something about LV's past, something maybe LV doesn't even know about, and when it is revealed to LV, his own emotions will sap him of his power, and be his undoing.

Any thoughts?

madcitysinger, I really like your ideas! I have been thinking about what DD meant when he said that there are things worse than death, but I couldn't think of anything. You said VD could be sapped of his powers, I think that is a great theory. We know that VD and Harry's wands can not do battle cause they are brother wands, so some sort of anceint magic is most likely going to come into play.

I think that VD becoming a muggle would be most amusing!

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I agree with most of the posters. i dont think that harry would kill voldemort with Avada Kedavra. I see 2 ways:

1. Voldemort and Harry meets at last for the last time. Voldemort and Harry does a bet of somekind saying that if Harry succeed then voldy would kill himself( after he destroid th horcruxes). If Harry dont succeed then Voldemort would kill him. Lets say Harry does suceed then there is no need for him to kill Voldemort.

2. I just have one sentence: Will we finally see a Dementors kiss,done on Voldemort??

C ya!!

how about this what if voldy sends an avada kadavra curse at harry and harry says protago and reveses the spell and voldy is caught off gaurd

or perhaps harry is not suposed to kill voldy maybe it is nevel that actually has to kill voldy that would shock everyone and make a great ending l

ok like this harry is battleing with voldy and nevel hits voldy with a killing spell

he would have the hatred to use it because of his parents going insane

it doesn't need to be an unforgivable curse like crucio, or the killing curse! harry hasn't mastered to close his mind, but he's already mastered on being a good occlumens & a good legilimens! he'll probably kill voldemort with one of those things, or if not, an unforgivable curse.

xchristendimayx, I'm not sure where you got your information from, but Harry hasn't mastered Occl. or Legi. Snape was trying to teach Harry Occl. but Harry wasn't able to shut down his emotions or feelings and so Snape kept calling him because of it. As Snape was fleeing from the castle, he told Harry again that he won't stand a chance again LV if he doesn't learn to control his emotions. Hopefully in DH, he will learn Occl. along the way before facing LV. He may well need it.

As for if Harry will kill LV. No, Harry won't kill him. He will defeat him but he won't actually perform the killing curse or something. I think the key to defeating LV is in the Locked Room-love.

Maybe Harry will find a curse or something like that. Voldemort can't understand love and just can't stand it so maybe he has to defeat him with love. That is what Voldemort doesn't have. Maybe there's some kind of curse/spell to transference love into Voldemort.

It isn't impossible right? What do you think about this thought?

I don't believe Harry will kill Voldemort. I believe the dementors will turn on Voldemort and they will take his soul. How fitting would that be?

The dementor character just seems to be the antithesis of Voldemort. It is the opposite of everything Voldmort wants. Voldemort wants to split his soul and save it away in little containers so he can never die. The dementors eat souls, and they can take them out of a person or an object if need be.

Also, since a patronus charm requires happiness or a very happy memory to cast, can Voldemort cast it? If not, he would be defenseless against the dementors.

This makes the most sense to me. As Dumbledore said way back in the first book: "There are things far worse than death."

Everyone expects Harry to kill Voldemort but will the ministry just let him use one of the Unforgivable Curses without sending him to Azkaban???Im sure that Harry wants to kill Voldemort with the Avada Ked. but is there any other ways to kill a wizard than that one killing curse ??I know that its bad enough to have one killing curse but there may be another curse that is powerful enough to kill a wizard which Harry knows of. Or maybe Harry will discover another curse to kill Voldemort while he searches for the Horcruxes??I couldnt help but think about this as i read the Harry potter books because in the ootp Harry isnt strong enough to perform an unforgivable curse.Anyway i was wondering if Harry would want to kill Voldemort with the A.K. because Voldemort would be expecing it or if he would choose a curse like sectumsemtra.Its an interesting thing to think about actually and i was just wondering if anyone else had thoughts on how Harry would kill Voldemort (if he kills him at all)

Harry won't use Avada Kedavra, the series has indicated this. He'll do something like push him through the veil.

Well he could do something different i dont think that Harry would want to use the curse that killed his parents on Voldemort but he could if he didnt have anything else in mind or if Voldemort attacked suddenly and without warning it all depends on the circumstances.

The problem with using the avada kedavra is that Harry and Voldemort's wands can not do battle. So unless Voldemort is wandless or using someone else's wand, they can't do battle. I think that the veil is the most popular way for vd to die.

Yes but i dont think that Harry would fight Voldemort at the Ministry though the veil would be an excellent way for voldemort to die i think they will meet somewhere unexpected.Any way about the wands i think maybe Voldemort realized this too and decided to get olivander to make him a new wand so that he could kill harry or vice versa.Like i said before it depends on how you look at it.

I think, that once Harry has destroyed all the horcruxes, there'll be a big showdown, but not in the Department of Mysteries. Not sure why I don't think the Dep. of Myst. theory, I just don't. Anyway I think Harry will use Avada Kedavra for the first and last time to kill Lord V. There we go, just my opinion.