Do ya'll think she was using a love potion on Harry? Their relationship was so sudden. Right when he gets back from his first potions lesson he smells the same love potion scent on Ginny that he smelled in the classroom. I'm not sure if she was using the potion or not but she became so popular all the sudden with the guys. What are ya'll thoughts on this?

I don't think so. I'd rather think Harry had already liked her earlier, but he realised that when bigger amount of boys started to notice her.

Yeah, I was just throwing an idea out there, it kind of made sense to me. I'm a big H/G shipper so i really hope she wasn't using a love potion but it just seems like there's a good possibility that she was.

Let's see. I think Harry smells that scent in his first Potions lesson because Hermione says it smells different to each of us, because it smells of what would make each of us fall in love because it's what we like. So he smells that because it's what he likes and then when he's near Ginny he smells it again, and he realises it's her that she likes.

That's a good point but I don't think the chances are very good that she wears a perfume that smells exactly like the love potion they brewed in potions class. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here haha. Is there any chance she has one in spray form?

The love potion smells exactly like the favorite things of that person. Harry smells flowers. He later realizes that the flowery scent is Ginny. The potion smells like flowers becuase Ginny smells like flowers, and he likes Ginny.

It wasn't sudden, it was building since the first book when she saw him for the first time. Remember, she explained that Hermione gave her advice to go out with other guys and start acting like herself and then Harry would notice. Well he did. They also had close moments in books two and four regarding her being possessed by Voldemort.

I think they were meant for each other... no one else could get Harry away from Dumbledore's body when he was devastated, and all she had to do was take his hand to get him away. What they had was special, and I think he'll come back for her at the end, and she'll be waiting.

I also think Accio Xbox has it right about the smell of the love potion. It smells like her because he likes her!

"What they had was special, and I think he'll come back for her at the end, and she'll be waiting." That's what I'm hoping for sansmom because like I said before I'm definitely a H/G shipper.

I don't know if she uses a perfgume that smells like that or her natural scent smells like that. We all have a natural scent, so it may be that.

yeah, ginny is certainly not the type to trick someone into loving her! shes far to honest and proud for that. plus, even slughorn said love potions dont create true feelings for someone, just a powerful infatuation. i think harry actually cared for ginny, or else he would have acted like ron did when romilda vane slipped love potion into those candies..which he didn't. so no, i think harry actually liked ginny and i don't think it was sudden considering he got to know her better this year. i also love H/G. cheers for harry/ginny!

I wonder what will happen when harry sees her at Bill's wedding over the summer, Fluer said that Ginny would be a brides mate, and i dont know about ya'll but all the weddings i've been to, the brides maids look good, i bet he regrets his decision but ends up sticking with it and then in the end they get back together, or shes tells harry to suck it up and she'll be fine with them together. But i hope they get together again, ive been a h/g fan since COS

It wasn't sudden, the whole book he had a crush on her, only he didn't want to admit it to himself because she is rons little sister and maybe because Dean was her boyfriend.

I for my part really doubt that Ginny would ever use a love potion. she told Hatty that she had had him in his mind for long, all the time, but to fetch his atention she went out with other boys, and as we saw (read) it really worked out. Harry felt an enormous hatred and a will to punch Dean when he saw them kiss.
An as explained above, Harry smelled the same smell as he smelled in the potions class because that's what he's atracted to.
Harry loves Ginny and she loves him, althoug he broke up with her, it wasn't because he doesn't like her anymore but because he thinks it will be to dangerous for her being with him.
But I think they'll be together all the same.
And that's what I'm hoping and praying for.

If you think to when Ron ate the chocolate cauldrons that were ment for Harry, and what his reaction was like (as thay were spiked with love potion by Romilda Vane)
His growing affection for Ginny is very diffrent.

Not sure if ayone has said this. But don't love potions have to be taken by the person that is the object of the brewers desire. Also doesn't have to be taken quite often and Ginny wasn't always around Harry to give him the potio. Also Harry felt a 'beast' within him which I don't think is really what happens with love potion and also they constantly talk about the person they have 'fell in love' with as we seen with Ron.

Ally x

Yeah..Ginny isn't one to use a love potion. Even though I'm not an H/G supporter...they really do like, maybe love, each other. I know it wasn't sudden for Ginny, but I thought it was for Harry. One minute, he's talking with Ron, walking down the corridor, and next, he feels the needs to hurt Dean. Still..I'm happy for them. I doubt that they'll get together again..Harry has to much to deal with. But then again, love is Harry's power that Voldemort knows now of, so he may need Ginny.

I think it's just that he smells her perfume or her sent in the love potion in potions class, doesn't make the connection that it's Ginny he's smelling until he sees her and smells it again. I too wondered about her using a love potion - but he showed signs before they went to Fred and George's store. I think their love is true - that she will wait for him - I just hope she isn't disappointed if he doesn't make it - which I have a strange feeling he won't!

I Strongly belive Ginny did NOT give Harry a love potion. This realationship has been building, I belive, since the second book. I personally was extremely shocked and dissapoionted when they broke up but as someone mentioned before, love is Harry's greatest strength. Harry certaintly does still like Ginny. He was remorsful to break up with her in the end of HBP and I think that if his feeling is infact love and not just a strong liking, Ginny might just be the one thing Harry will need beside him to finish off Voldemort.

why wouldse use a potion,if she was dating Dean,and why,if she did use one,is it that the relationship lasted like,5 mounths?

conclusion: No,she did not.

of course harry has to get back with ginny, after all he needs all the love he can get, if he's to beat vm. he'll need ron's family and maybe even his own family (dursleys) will chip in their two cents... and ya i firmly believe there love is real not induced from some lusty potion

of course she did'nt use a Love Potion! Why did Harry wait for so long and think "I don't want to risk Ron's friendship"?

If she did, why didn't she ditch Dean?

After Harry defeats Voldemort, I think he'll visit the Burrow and talk to Ginny.

I bet that he get's a bit lovesick a few times in book 7. He'll think about Ginny.

It's fairly obvious that Harry actually does have feelings for Ginny, few simple points:

1) The love potion is intuative in the same way that the human offactory system is, it generates smells that your brain finds attractive (much in the same way that humans give of and respond to feremones from people that have very different sets of immunities to them in order to heighten the possibility of creating offspring with a strong defense against desiese... sorry, genetics lesson over ) so when Harry is near the potion, his brain interprets the signals as being that of whatever reminds him of the person he cares about.

2) Harry's inner conflict about whether to endanger his relationship with Ron by asking Ginny out is a clear example that he is not under the affects of Amortentia (or any other kind of potion) because if he was, he would not have cared whether or not Ron would consent

3) Same as above but for the break-up, if he was under a potion, he woudn't feel that way about her safety, the want/need to be with her would be far to intense to ignore.

In conclusion, their feelings are quite simply real, and as such it's not likely to be something that either of them will forget or put aside. Yay for H/G!

ginny is definatly not the type of person who would use a love potion i just think that she is pretty and has a good personality and harry wasnt constantly talking about her like ron was about romilida when he got the love potion

i doubt that ginny used a love potion. harry just never really noticed her until she became "more desirable to other guys". some one got jealous!!!

I was just at another Veritaserum thread where someone posted that she had read an essay that said Hermione was the one using love potions on Harry. Hermione was using them on Harry so that he would notice Ginny. Could she have been doing this as a favor to Ginny because of their being friends? Whenever the potion wore off, so did Harry's interest in Ginny. I would love to read that essay but, the person who posted on it couldn't remember where she had seen the article. This is just another opinion of someone who thinks love potions are the reason why Harry is obsessed with Ginny. It may be the opinion of some H/Hr shippers but, not all. I'm an avid Harry and Hermione shipper and I don't think love potions are causing Harry's interest in Ginny. I believe that love potions play an important role in HBP. I just haven't figured out what exactly that role is. Jo sure spent a lot of time telling us about love potions, that flowery scent that Harry has come to identify with Ginny, the amorentia, and Horace Slughorn being a master of potions and now the Potions Professor. Yes, love potions are important in HBP. The questions I have are - "How are they important?" and "Why are they important?"

I dont think that Ginny would have ever used love potion. She likes Harry very much and she would have liked Harry to notice her without magic. And she was right because he noticed her . It took him years, but it happened

I am a humongus harry/ginny supporter! there is no way Ginny would do that she loves harry and is willing to wait for him as long as it takes.I hope they get back together because harry deseves someone that will make him happy, after all the wizarding worlds hero needs some joy!

there is no way ginny used a love potion...........like you all said harry has liked her all along. he didnt need a love potion he just needed a little push to get him to relize he liked her (that push being ginny and dean kissing). they are definetly gonna hook up again in the end................................as long as harry doesnt die i guess.


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Love potion robs someone's freewill to be singlemindedly devoted to a person only. Harry is not like that. In fact, he voluntarily broke the relationship with Ginny until Voldemort's threat is gone. This cannot be the effect of Love Potion which will keep the lover with whatever cost (Ron's case with Romilda). Anyway, an interesting theory worthy of serious discussion.

Hermione told to Harry in the library that the girls are planning to give love potions to Harry and asked him to be careful. She warned him that even the Prince could not save him from a different types of love potions given in at the same time. So it is clear that there is diiferent types of love potions are there. We saw one type of love potion given to Ron by Romilda. How can we know what are the effects of other potions? Harry suddenly felt the feeling for ginny. So it may be the effect of that particular potion used by Ginny.When he kissed her JKR told that the monster inside was roaring. Is it the correct effect for a pure love?

Correction: the monster inside Harry was roaring when he saw Dean and Ginny were liplocking. When Harry kissed Ginny, he felt like it took several sunlit days. That's one of the expressions used in true love. Incidentally the term "sun" is used to describe Ginny several times in Book 2. Harry felt the worse day of his life as the sun turned red, when Ginny was supposed dead in the Chamber of Secrets.
In reflection, I still believe the HP series is written in the style of Harry Potter's autobiography. In it he recalled how he met his wife, Ginny, and some memorable moments, including how he suddenly saw her in a different light and pulled his courage to show her that he loves her.
Speaking about Amortensia, it's very interesting to learn that Amortensia cannot create love, but only enhances the feeling. Hence, Amortensia is not a true love potion. It cannot make someone suddenly fell for an unknown person. Definitely not the kind used by Voldemort's mother to his father.
Jo Rowling uses Amortensia as one tool to make Harry and Hermione more courageous to get their respective partners. Harry realized he has born feelings to Ginny, whereas Hermione now is assured that she really likes Ron. Thus, Harry's sudden action towards Ginny is actually helped by Amortensia (Tension of Love?), not by love potions in the category as used by Voldermort's mom, as certainly not by love potion from Ginny.

In page No 499 See last four or five lines. The monster roars in trimpthwhen he took her outside.

Wellwisher of Harry, in my book it doesn't say "monster". It said "the creature in his chest roaring in triumph". I have to think there is a reason why Jo Rowling doesn't write "monster". One of the assumptions is Jo is telling us that "the creature" is not "a monster"; that the creature is something created by God, which is not evil, but sacred from the beginning. There is no more use of "monster" in HBP thereafter. Is it the same in your book?

Eowyn, I don't understand the following contradiction in your posting:

muggleview,
Sorry, yeas it is creature not monster. Anyhow how can you say the creature is not harmful? my argument is Ginny got the love potion in the summer and gave it to Harry in the Burrow itself.(Where she was having many chances to give it to him without others knowledge.) In the train itself Harry started to feel a annoyance when she went to meet Dean. After smelling the powerful potion in his first class his attaction (created by the ginny's love potion in him) becomes an absession but slowly. Because he did not drink it he only smells it.Ginny was often in the greathall when they are eating ( It is not like that in the past books. she did not combined with these three. but in HBP she was almost with them in the dining hall.The potions were available through owl order as Hermione told to Harry in the library.After getting Harry she might stopped to give the potions to him. When the effect of potion gone off the love interest alo the same. isn't? So harry broke with her but he gave a reason that he did not want to put her in danger. I did not think when he told that point to her with any deep feeling. it was swallow. She also did not show any shock or misery on hearing their relationship came to an end. She told that she was expecting that because she knew that before if the love feeling is a artificial one it would gone off when she stopped the potion.But the use of the word monster is somewhere in the book i did not remember.

Wellwisher of Harry. As I said before, this is all an interesting theory. I like interesting theories related to HP series, but I don’t always agree with them. Only in my opinion that I think it’s not likely to happen. I won’t say it’s impossible to happen, because Jo Rowling is unpredictable and she can do whatever she wants. Bear in mind that I reply this with respect; just for the sake of the debate.
What is missing so far (it may still come up in Book 7, so don’t lose hope yet) is any clear indications.
Ginny might have given the potion in the summer, but it is not in the canon about the indication of giving nor the indication of the effects (Harry was not suddenly infatuated with Ginny).
There is no indication that two love potions always work together synergistically (positively). It is possible for them to annihilate the other. While there is no indication that Ginny has given Harry any potion in the summer, we know that Harry didn’t drink Amortentia. He only smelled it. We don’t have indication how the effect of smell will be or how long it will last.
One thing I think Jo Rowling wants to inform us here: the knowledge one gets from smelling Amortentia is the realization of one’s own subconscience. Amortentia can affect the person’s romantic feeling (per definition of the lexicon as quoted by Eowyn earlier) only when there is already a little bit of feeling. Harry smelled it, knowing the effect of the Amortentia, realized that subconsciously he must bear a feeling to Ginny, because that was the effect Amortentia could have enhanced, if Harry ever drank it. The same thing most likely happened to Hermione, because thereafter she single-mindedly pursued Ron (ignoring other boys including Harry). I hope nobody thinks Ron gave love-potion to Hermione, because many facts in HBP contradict it (IMO).
What you said about how the effect of love potions will last etc. is not clearly indicated in the books. We only knew once the target stopped drinking it, the love could change into deep hatred and disgust as happened to Tom Riddle Sr. Ron got the antidote, so he didn’t develop hatred and disgust to Romilda (probably Ron would still feel disgusted, after hearing about it, not as a result of withdrawal, but this is not clearly stated). We don’t see anything resemble that with Harry, if your theory is true.
In short, it is an interesting theory, but there are many assumptions and no clear indication from the book 6.

Bear in mind who is actually saying this - I hope that alone will let you know how exceptionally painful I find this to admit - but Ginny or anyone else didn't give Harry a love potion. Unfortunately, he's acting of his own free will. *sigh*

How am I so confident in that? Because I've just found Harry thinking about Ginny during their first trip to Hogsmeade that year, in the 'Silver and Opals' chapter. That's the first time, that I recall, that he thinks of her when there was nothing to directly trigger the thought, if you know what I mean. This was all before any mention of love potion.

So, sadly, as nice as the idea was, it does seem as though Harry knows what he's doing. *sigh*

Of course, there are always other possibilities - Confundis charms, Imperius....

Somebody PLEASE answer me this: When Hermione smelled the potion stuff that smells like what attracts you and she said I smell newly cut grass, parchment, and then she stopped... was it some sent of Ron she smelled? Sorry to get off topic but I'm dying to know!

oh, i wondered about that, and i think it was, just because she blushed and fell silent. that would be sweet. Harry smelled Ginny's flowery scent didn't he, so i think it could have been something to do with Ron that she smelled.

i don't think Ginny would actually use a love potion on Harry. that's the kind of thing Romilda Vane and Merope Gaunt find useful, but i never imagined Ginny doing that. i guess it's possible, but i don't like this idea. i think he trully likes her, without her influencing him in any way.

i prefer the thought of Harry liking Ginny for her, not because she's forced him to. just my opinion, you understand

Only_ N_ fairyTales, could it be that Hermione smells parchement and fresh cut grass because that's what she smells at Hogwarts, and when she's at Hogwart's she is with Ron? I mean, she spends time with him at places other than Hogwarts, but not like the kind of intense stretches of time she spends with him while they're at school. Just a thought...

Veering slightly off topic here, guys. If you want to talk about Ron and Hermione, then please do so in the R/Hr thread in the SHIPS forum.

Thanks.

I think that the reaason harry smelled that flowery scent in the love potion, was because he liked ginny. Hermione said that the love potion makes people smell what attracts them,and harry was attracted to ginny, so that's why he smelled the flowery scent.[FONT=Impact][SIZE=1][COLOR=purple]