Well, JKR made me cry this time. (I actually cried during the last chapter). At this very moment, i think that Snape betrayed Dubledore.
But I started to wonder that maybe Dumbledore did not want Draco to kill him (because that is what Voldemort wanted) and pleaded Snape to do it instead. (As he asked Harry to make him drink the green potion)

Harry had to make Dumbledore drink the potion because he gave him his word to do it. Maybe it is the same with Snape. Maybe it could have been a lot worse if Draco had done it.

So, when Dumbledore pleaded, he saw pleading Snape to kill him before Draco did it.

And now that Dumbledore is dead, this takes us to POA, where Dumbledore telld Harry that "The deads that had loved us never trully leave us" or something. So maybe Dumbledore's death will give Harry more power and strenght.

okay, i totally think that snape is a traitor...although everyone else, other than one person, that i have actually talked to, disagrees with me. here are my reasons. first, even if he did make the unbreakable vow, it said in the book that if you break it, you die, and if he didnt want to kill dd, he could have died himself. also, he was practically laughing at harry minutes after when harry tried to stop him. my last thing, is that why exactly would he do something like that, if he was still on dd side, if he knew that dd was the only one that trusted him. even if he didnt betray them, i dont know how he is going to prove that to anyone in the order now that the only reason they trusted them is dead. well thats all for me....

i think that Snape did but didn't betray DD. Snape must have known about Draco's plan to attack the school. i know in the book that it says Draco was thought ocluemency by Bellatrix, but do we really think that if Harry couldn't stop Snape that Draco could. Especially sense we know that was mentally weak because he was crying and telling Moaning Myrtle everything in the bathroom.

We also know that Draco could feel Snape’s presenes in his mind because when they were along in that room Draco told Snape to stop reading his mind. Then Snape says i see that Bellatrix has been teaching you ocluemency. So Snape must have got into Draco's mind.

Then later on in the book it is said that Snape and DD get into an arguement. i'm let to believe that they were argueing about why Snape wouldn't tell DD about Draco's plan. I also think in that same arguement Snape told DD that he took an Unbreakable Vow with Narsicca. That is what probably made DD so angry with Snape. It is also possible later on in that conversation DD tells Snape that Snape should not break his Vow with Narsicca even if he was to kill DD himself. DD would have said that Snape was to important to the Order and that Harry could learn more about the Dark Lord and what his weaknesses are from Snape than he could form DD. So Snape would have then gotten angry and would have tried to get DD to change his mind, but of course DD knew it was the only that he could insure that Harry got proper training before he takes on the Dark Lord. What if DD made Snape take and Unbreakable Vow with him that if he (DD) were to die that Snape would do everything that he could without blowing his cover to help Harry defeat the Dark Lord? So when Harry and Snape were fighting Snape gave Harry so good advice about how to attack a strong Dark wizard ( Voldemort).

Now lets go back to when the Death Eaters attacked the school. We know that Snape was in his room in the doungeons. Was this Snape's atempt to try and avoid his Vow with Narsicca, because if he didn't know when there would be an attack Snape thought he could get out of the Vow. Then we know that professor Flitwick came down to the dugeons and told Snape what was going o Then Snape did not have a choice he had to go and fullfil both his Vows.So he Knocked out Flitwick because he knew that Hermione and Luna were outside his door. This shows that Snape really didn't want to do what he was about to do. In sparing Hermione and Luna i think that he was trying to show that he didn't not want to do what he was about to do ( kill DD). Lets face it if he had really turned he would have killed Flitwick, Luna, and Hermione.

So when he reached were DD and the Death Eaters were DD saw that Snape didn't want to kill him (DD) so he pleaded with Snape to complete both Vows. DD knew that if one of the other Death Eaters killed him before Snape did then both he (DD) and Snape would have died, because Snape would have broken his Vow with DD and Narsicca. So DD reminded Snape much in the same way he did with aunt Petunia when he said "remeber my last". So he said "Severus...Plaese." to remind Snape of what was at stake,because in that moment everything was at stake both thier futures, Harry's future, and the entire wizarding worlds future. So Snape did what he had to insure that must of those futures remained bright. Also DD knew that after Snape had killed him he would be the second most wanted wizard. So he couldn't stay at Spinners End and he would be spending more time around Voldemort. More time to plot against him, more time to find his weakness,and more time to find out what his Horcruxes are and where they are hidden.

So basically i think that DD is turely dead and is not coming back. Thats just the way DD thought i must end in order to give Harry the best posiiblie chance of beating Voldemort.

spoiler in the link...


snape/dumbledore animation


well, it takes a few minutes, so you might want to change the speed to fast. hope you like it!

and, uh, dont skip to the end cause you miss it all!

Okay this may seem lame and sentimental but here goes... Dumbledore makes sure that Harry is welcomed back at his aunt and uncle's home before he turned 17. After that the protection of their home would no longer be applicable. In COS it says the only way he could have gotten Fawkes help was Harry's loyalty to him. In HBP, Harry says he is Dumbledore's man through and through. Dumbledore is clearly moved by this. In OP Dumbledore was afraid that Voldemort that would see that there more of a relationship than that of headmaster and student, which shows that Dumbledore loved Harry. Could this love protect Harry in the future after his mother's protection is gone? Just a thought.

yah i wanted to killllllllllllll snape after hed killed dd but then i thought what if dd isnt dead but made it look like he were dead an then vol would go on with his evil plans but less secretly because no bodycould stop him an then the order of the pheniox would be able to get info an stop vol yeah happy day




ps sorry about the on liner on 7 27

Forgive me if anybody has mentioned this, but i wanted to suggest the possibility that when Dd was pleading to snape, he was pleading for Snape not to kill him, he wanted Malfoy to do it so that Voldemort wouldn't have any reason to be mad, Voldemort wanted malfoy to do it!

Well, I reckon this has gotten big enough. 11 pages is a lot!

Anyways, I'll go and archive this, and open you guys a shiny new thread shortly.