kool kat
Oct 10 2005, 02:33 PM
My favorite R/Hr moment? Let's take a look at them, shall we?
HBP SPOILERS!!!!!READ NO FURTHER IF YOU HAVEN'T READ HBP.1.Dumbledore's funeral
2. canaries
3.Herbology Class
4.Er-my-nee (unless his knee was just hurting.......

)
5.Hermione being mad when Lavender first started flirting with Ron
6. The curse Hermione put on Mcglaggan for Ron to win
7.I love you, Hermione
8.Ron always wanting to break up with Lavender
9.Hermione trying to make him jealous with Mcglaggan
10. Hermione making Lav-Lav cry when she touched Ron's wrist (I must be the world's number one Lavender brown hater....

)
11. Ron avoiding Lav-Lav, and wanting Hermione to come by
END HBP SPOILERS!And the list goes on....what can I say, I love R/Hr
Kaylyn
Oct 10 2005, 06:52 PM
Yes... come to think of it, when Ron kids around, it usually does come true. I know that I sound like an idiot, but is there such a thing as a Venom: Lavender thread? I also hated Lavender in the book.
My favortie part of HBP was actually the struggle and, well, slight flirting between Ron and Hermione. The canary part was, surprisingly, not one of my favortie Ron/Hermione scenes. Though the idea that Hermione sent canaries on Ron is funny, what was really going on was not. I say this, because even though the canaries were attacking Ron, Hermione was in more pain than he was. As Hermione is my favorite character I hate for her to be hurt. But, this scene was very important too. Many people hate the fact that Ron went out with Lavender. In fact, I do too. However, I also feel that this needed to happen for Ron and Hermione to happen.
Venom
Oct 10 2005, 08:19 PM
I think that they will definetly end up together in book 7, I mean it's just destined.
But there's one thing i don't get: at the end of book 6 are ron and hermione officially boyfriend/girlfriend? Have they declared their love to each other?
Please let me know, as I am in full support for this pairing.
Kaylyn
Oct 10 2005, 10:07 PM
We cannot say for certain, but, in a way they were. Well, at least I think so. He broke up with Lavender for Hermione, so, maybe they were, maybe they weren't. It just was not yet official.
joejoe
Oct 10 2005, 10:13 PM
Though i have no intention of anti r/hr, what you said about rons jokes coming true, yes i do agree that ron joking around with i luv hermione COULD come true through ur ideas, but he also joked about himself dying in book5...
Kaylyn
Oct 11 2005, 12:54 AM
Maybe him joking around about dying will come true... Gosh, I'm getting off-topic again! Anyhow, aren't they such a cute couple? (Sorry that was mushy.)
muggleview
Oct 11 2005, 02:47 AM
They are a cute couple indeed. I think I am still supporting one famous scenario on how Ron and Hermione would confess their love in the presence of Harry: Ron had to be dying. We saw how Hermione was beside herself everytime Ron was in mortal danger. However, Ron didn't think he will die, though. Ron said he would not believe he will die even there were two attempts on him ("Die, Ron, Die"). So far we saw already the two attempts: in Book 3 (by Sirius Black) and in Book 6. Thus, it has come true!
Since the second attempt, Hermione has forgiven all Ron's bad deed and became very soft to him (helping cleaning up homework and snow). Ron has shown who is always in his mind, even at the gate of death: Er-my-nee.
Quality Quidditch Supplies
Oct 11 2005, 03:15 AM
Hi Kaylyn,
Welcome to VTM!
I'm going to ask you to edit your signature, there are limitations on the allowable size, five lines of text and one block of photos no larger than 150 down and 450 across. I'll send you a PM just to be sure you see this.
Thanks, Mason.
PigWithHair
Oct 11 2005, 11:04 PM
No, I don't think they are boyfriend/girlfriend at the end of Book 6, but Ron is starting to realize how much he likes Hermione:
"Hermione going to drop by before the match?" (he asked this casually, then was "glum" when Harry answered "no."
He looks down the table in the Great Hall at her furtively.
He tries to get Hermione's attention and start conversing with her again when they return to Hogwarts from Christmas, but Hermione ignores him.
Somewhere in Book 7 we will, very hopefully see The Moment when it all comes together and they do become A Couple.
I really want to read that moment. I don't want it to be a thing-that-has-already-happened. We've been through all the fights and the tension. We need The Moment.
Lavender was very necessary. I thought JKR handled that really well as Ron did need to do some growing up and get some more life experience so he would know what he really wanted with a girl (no! I don't mean that!)
The Romilda Vane thing really threw me...I thought he was talking about Hermione! Wishful thinking on my part!
I would like to see some sort of engaged discussed at the end of Book 7, but I doubt Ron and Hermione will really be together before the end of the book. Especially since JKR said Viktor's returning...
Muggleview,
I think we'll see Hermione in mortal danger in Book 7. That may spur Ron onto act! Especially since he was the one in peril in Book 6 and we got to see how Hermione took that bit of news.
Hpchick
Oct 13 2005, 12:38 AM
I think that it is sooo cute how JkR gave hints that Ron is starting to feel something very special towards Hermione but in a subtle way. I also love that Harry and Ginny finally get together in the 6th book!
MiTcHeLL_QuInOnEs Bye!!!!
Snapeshot
Oct 13 2005, 02:15 PM
| QUOTE (Amyrat151 @ Jul 21 2005, 05:29 PM) |
| Yeah, that felt really good. Knowing that all that time, she felt the same way. It's so just...sweet. Sighs, it reminds me of this one song that played on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. But Ron and Hermione complete eachother, not inspite their differnces, but because of them. |
I can so agree with that. R/Hr like each other for their differences. Their arguments and fights actually brought them closer. What I don't get is why in the movies does it seem that Hermoine likes Harry, but in the book Hermoine likes Ron? It's so hard for me to keep everything straight because I saw the movies after reading the books.It's so confuzziling.
muggleview
Oct 13 2005, 09:13 PM
PigwithHair, the possibility of Hermione in mortal danger will certainly add an excitement to their relationship. We know how quick Ron reacts to defend Hermione.
Snapeshot, I don't think the movies point to H/Hr romantic relationship.
True to Jo's intention to get the readers tricked, the movies showed ambiguity in the first ones, but gradually more certain that R & Hr are falling for each other. Let's see how movie 4 will show it. From a trustworthy source, I was told R/Hr supporters definitely won't be disappointed, but let's wait until the movie is out.
PigWithHair
Oct 13 2005, 11:35 PM
I have to agree with Muggleview on that. I've seen on several posts where people are of the opinion that Hermione in the films seemed to be romantically interested in Harry and not Ron, but I didn't take it that way at all.
I am referring specifically to:
SS - the very first scene between Ron, Hermione and Harry. Ron is throwing Harry looks like "what's up with this chick?" And I love how, at the Sorting Ceremony, Ron mutters "mental that one." (Husband loves that line, too).
Ron and Hermione bicker a few times in this film... like "I know what it means!" Also, the deleted scenes point to these exchanges.
CofS - Well, of course, the big giveaway is the hug-that-became-a-handshake. Great moment. And, of course, Ron's reaction to Hermione's being petrified. Harry, too, is concerned, but Ron moans her name and then sits staring at her.
PofA - The hand holding! Hermione throws her arms around RON and cries, the arguments...great byplay.
All along Harry and Hermione get along, but I thought the filmmakers did a good job (even though many telling scenes were cut that appeared in the books) of showing that while Harry and Hermione were clearly friends, there was no chemistry, no tension, and no attraction.
Obviously, this all boils down to interpretation, but its interesting how we all see the same thing and yet see it differently, right?
Frankly, I do like Harry and Ginny being together, but Ron and Hermione are my favorite couple in HP because they do have so much angst, so much they don't admit, don't want to admit, or are afraid to admit. Lots of great tension comes across in the books (and, for me, in the films) and I really, really enjoyed that.
Yeah, it's not a love story as many people love to point out, but its one aspect of HP that I enjoy (not the only one!).
Ron and Hermione do compliment each other very well. They are the same and yet different. Both with lots of insecurities and both very loyal, brave and yet different in how they approach things. Hermione is very logical, yet not as grounded as Ron. Ron's better with people and sees the lighter side of things. To Hermione, life is pretty serious business. Ron at times needs to get more serious.
Snapeshot
Oct 14 2005, 01:50 PM
I can see where you get that H/Hr aren't romantically involved, I guess it all depends on how you persieve the events. All I can say is that the tension is killing me. If R/Hr like each other then why don't they do something about it. It's so frustrating!
RavenMist
Oct 15 2005, 12:26 AM
Ron just needed, some experience as it were, and to mature up. I doubt there relationship would have lasted more then a days with the way Ron has been acting. He just needed to devlope a more...er emotional matuarity?
I also think after what happened with Ron and Lavender, Ron and Hermione still need to mend a few broken fences but in my opioin they are as good as together.
muggleview
Oct 15 2005, 01:52 AM
The key issue of the R/Hr relationship is the determination of the participants. Until now they know the feelings but they have not tried to make it work yet. Maybe being together many years, or basically living together under the same roof for years, can make them doubt whether the feelings are of close friends or of lovers. The misadventures in Book 6 have shown them they have found a real love among the mess. Yes, bickering jealousy and fighting are the mess to hide and test their real feelings. It may not the best way, but the way known to them at that point to fathom the depth of the "sea of love". A calm water will not show it so clearly. One needs to disturb the calmness to find out the real depth. Playing wizard chess together or doing homework next to the fire together or gossiping Harry at nights can be interpreted as actions between two good friends. However, bickering, jealousy, fighting and mortal danger uncovered the hidden tension between them. Ron had tried to amend relationship with Hermione after Christmas, but it's Hermione's turn to ignore him (I don't blame her), until Ron's close encounter with death shocked her so much. I think the scene at the hospital speaks more volume that the words used. Jo Rowling is getting better in using less space to describe things. Hermione's deep worry of losing Ron is so clear, without flowery languages. Ron's deep feeling for Hermione is clear from his rumbling at the gate of death. As we often heard cited "...and the rest is history". After that, Ron and Hermione renew their friendship and going to the next phase of relationship. How far? Well, we have to wait for Book 7, because apparently the book was prepared long, long time ago in a country far, far away, to tie all knots in the story, ...which includes the romantic relationship between Ron and Hermione.
Venom
Oct 15 2005, 08:30 AM
I totally agree wiith you muggleview, by book 7 I'm sure that in the face of danger as they search to destroy the Horcruxes, Ron and Hermione will realise just how much they care about each other and declare it to each other openly.
EmmaGranger
Oct 15 2005, 04:36 PM
departed_soul
Oct 16 2005, 08:44 PM
I love Hermione and Ron. I think, in spite of their differences, they really do balance each other out. Hermione sometimes needs to learn to relax and chill, while Ron does need to be a bit more serious every once in a while. Over the course of the books, it seems like their personalities have sort of rubbed off on one another.
I hope they end up together in book 7. I have a sneaking suspicion that DD's death and (maybe) Bill's wedding will play a great role in how they hook up.
GinevraPotter
Oct 17 2005, 04:15 AM
Hehe, all of this is making me anxious for Book 7!

Do you guys think Ron and Hermione will already be "officially together" when book 7 begins, or do you suppose it will happen more towards the end? I was thinking about that earlier today...have at it!
Snapeshot
Oct 17 2005, 01:53 PM
I hope it's not at the beginning. I'd like to see R/Hr hook up but you can't just be thrown into something like that. You need time to get used to the idea that it's finally happened after all this time. I just hope nothing goes wrong. It would totally suck if R/Hr weren't friends any more.
lonelycastle
Oct 17 2005, 08:28 PM
I was wandering about on the internet last night and happened upon a few Ron/Hermione fan made music videos which use footage from the movies. They're nothing too fancy, but thought maybe some would like to check them out.
Video 1Video 2The links are a bit oddly done, but i think they'll work. And sorry if you've seen these before.
PigWithHair
Oct 18 2005, 01:52 AM
Thanks for those, LonelyCastle.
In answer to the question, I REALLY hope they are not. I want to read The Moment Ron and Hermione become a couple.
I don't think they will be. Evidently, in interviews, JKR has said Book 7 will take up right after where Book 6 left off, and as they all left Hogwarts an hour after the funeral it doesn't seem they would have had time.
What do you think The Moment will be like? Will Ron admit his feelings to Hermione first? Or will he just kiss her like Harry did with Ginny?
Or will he ask Hermione out (to the wedding maybe?) and things will go from there?
QueenWeasley
Oct 18 2005, 02:17 AM
I used to be a H/Hr shipper back in grade 3 I think, i was 8 or 9 and I was hoping for "the hero gets the girl" until i was 10 i thought to myself and noticed hints and clues here and there leading to R/Hr.
I don't know, I've never seen hints about Hermione and Harry. Whenever I picture them together it just comes out as a complete blur. And I think the total boredom Harry faced in GoF with Hermione should have been enough to prove that he doesn't like her. I never thought Hermione liked Harry either, I always thought there was something going on between R/Hr.
Sometimes when I think about HBP I always remember how odd it was when hermione kept most of her feelings for Ron hidden and then suddenly it becomes obvious like that but then again, teenage life is full of unexpectated events, and just because HP is a series, it doesn't mean that everything has to be carefully planned out the way we want it to, or else there wouldn't be anything fun about HP because we'd be expecting everything at a certain time or after a certain event. Life isn't like that.
But back to R/Hr, I think they're a great couple. Hermione needs more wit and excitement in her life and theres Ron for her fun side. Ron needs more responsibility and educational activities in his life and theres Hermione for his serious side. They balance each other out and I think that this relationship is beautiful.
muggleview
Oct 18 2005, 06:30 PM
| QUOTE (QueenWeasley) |
| Sometimes when I think about HBP I always remember how odd it was when hermione kept most of her feelings for Ron hidden and then suddenly it becomes obvious like that but then again, teenage life is full of unexpectated events... |
Very true. However, the author put one event that may trigger the sudden realization of Hermione for her feelings to Ron. During the Potion class when Amortentia was introduced, to be smelled, not to be taken in, Hermione described the scents she picked up. She stopped short in telling the class the third scent she smelled. I think it dawns to her then that the third scent belongs to a person not to things like parchment and grass. I guess she realized the scent is uniquely from Ron, thus she realized that the person she likes is really Ron. Once she is certain about this, she is not hiding the feeling anymore, but actively taunted Ron.
Yet, the author placed a warning there: don't just trust your feeling. You have to prove it. That's when Jo Rowling introduced the incident with Lavender. It's a trial for Hermione (and for Ron, too, but that's a different topic) to see whether that incident will wipe off her love to Ron, or not. Hermione has the right to be angry forever at Ron. However, when Ron was dying and spoke her name, Hermione knew Ron is the person she really likes, the one she couldn't live without. After Ron recovered, all is forgiven and started anew, Hermione set her attitude to treat Ron more tenderly. The prospect of them together became inevitable when Ron broke up with Lavender and focused only on Hermione. We hope to see the full action through Harry's eyes in Book 7.
PigWithHair
Oct 19 2005, 02:19 AM
This is the third time I've tried to post this...really ticking me off!!
Okay..just how much action will we see through Harry's eyes? Not much, but I've wondered if Harry will practice occlumency with Ron and Hermione, accidentally read their thoughts and...well, realize that what is between those two is no crush. Or would Hermione and Ron start to read each other's...no, even I don't like that. You don't want to read the thoughts of your significant other or he/she won't stay that for long!
Regarding what Hermione smelled in Potions, on another board I've seen the theory that Hermione smelled the "unusal" perfume Ron gave her. This makes sense. I can't find another reference to any smell dealing with Ron, can you?
One fear of mine...will Hermione be killed off and Ron turn to Luna? Now, I don't like this theory AT ALL, but I re-read the books recently and came across Ron saying "Luna's growing on me."
And Luna told Ron that though Padma felt he treated her lousy at the Ball because he wouldn't dance with her, Luna wouldn't care if he didn't dance with her because she hates dancing.
And she was humming (or whistling, can't recall) the tune of "Weasley is Our King" while at the Hog's Head.
So, I'm a bit scared about that now that I've thought of it.
What about Hagrid and Madame Maxine?
I'd really like to see Hagrid have some love in his life. He's such a sweet character, but I'm so afraid (and logically, I think so to) that JKR will kill him off. So, I'm still thinking that ship will be sunk.
I'm hoping Lupin and Tonks get married at the end of Book 7 which would mean a big party (reception) where everyone is dressed up, dancing, drinking butterbeer and maybe a little romance and - see where I'm going here? No! I'm not talkign about Ron and Luna!
But what do you think?
Harry and Ginny - together at the end. They still are a couple in their hearts even though they broke up.
What will The Moment be like for Ron and Hermione, if they live?
muggleview
Oct 19 2005, 08:46 AM
PigWithHair,
Don't worry about Luna. Remember, all the ends of book 7 has been hinted in Book 1. In Book 1 there is no Luna. There are only Harry watching Ginny and Ginny was interested in Harry, Hermione took time to sit watching Ron performing magic, whereas Ron started to feel uneasy around her (tension!). Thus, I am pretty much sure those 2 are the final pairings.
Hermione being killed off? It would be like Jo commits suicide, because Hermione is her persona in the series. Nah, Hermione will be busy with some little redheads as soon as the war is over.
Luna only appeared in Book 5 (although her family is mentioned in Book 4). She served her main function there, to provide Harry a chance for interview. That Ron can accept Luna is a sign of maturity. He can see people much better, so he can really see Hermione in the true light.
The Moment for Ron and Hermione would be finding a place to live. I feel intrigued about what will Ron learn at Privet Drive. Will he learn how to live a Muggle life? This will prepare him to live around Hermione's parents. As a single daughter, Hermione will have to visit them, with Ron and children. Ron will have to adjust Muggle life more than now. Ron may even be assigned as an Auror to guard Muggles against Dark Arts, which could be more relaxed than other Aurors (Harry for example).
Hermione will still pursue her cause to balance the rights of Wizarding creatures according to Muggle traditions. While Harry and Ginny will definitely stay in wizarding world (Harry has nothing worth remembering in the Muggle world), Ron and Hermione will stay more often in the Muggle world, at least until Hermione's parents pass away.
I read a fanfic, not well written, but the idea is good: Ron and Hermione will live next to her parents, but in a house like 12 Grimmauld Place, which needs magic to squeeze in and out of the housing row. Hermione can always leave the children with her parents when she and Ron work, but they can also travel to the Burrow quickly using Floo Network.
What do you think?
PigWithHair
Oct 19 2005, 04:33 PM
Did JKR say "all the endings of Book 7 were hinted at in Book 1?"
I hadn't heard that before. Was that in an interview? I know there were clues in Books 1 and 2, but I hadn't heard the actual endings are foreshadowed absolutely in Book 1. Anxious to hear about that! Always love hearing new stuff.
Yes, I had read that Hermione is JKR's voice, and, logically, I agree that it makes logical sense that she won't kill off her own voice. Guess I just get worried about these things once in awhile.
Truly, I don't think she'll kill off any of the trio, but I was worried yesturday after re-reading those passages. I think I'm guilty over waaay over-analyzing this stuff.
I'd forgotten about the interview, but I do think Luna will return in Book 7.
I wish there was a good ship for Luna, but I don't see her with Neville. In fact, JKR said in an interview that she thought Luna would frighen him.
Yes, you're right that is a sign of maturity in Ron as I recollect that earlier in Book 6, Ron was appalled that Harry had choosen Luna to take to Slughorn's party. Another sign of Ron growing up.
Regarding the Privet Drive stuff, I have to disagree. I don't see Ron and Hermione actually staying at Privet Drive with Harry. How would that work?
No, they'll come and pick him up to go to the wedding. Will Harry return to Privet Drive after the wedding? Probably, and then Ron and Hermione will be there at midnight of Harry's birthday to pick him up and take him away from the Dursleys forever.
Will their base be Grimmauld Place after that? Harry didn't want to go back there, so unsure about that.
Yes, Ron will learn a lot more about Muggle life, I do agree with that. Afterall, Hermione has grown up Muggle and her parents are and Ron's dad loves Muggles so yeah, I see Ron and Hermione living one foot in the wizarding world and one in the Muggle world later on when they have a place of their own.
But I guess I was asking, will there be a leading up to The Moment? Or will Ron just suddenly kiss her like Harry did with Ginny? Ron will have to admit his feelings to Hermione first. She's stuck her neck out before.
Harry and Ginny will sail back together again, but I don't think until the end of the book, though I'm hoping they hold hands at the wedding, and we have some good moments between them like that.
jelchu
Oct 19 2005, 06:35 PM
Sometimes I want to hit the heads of Ron & Hermione and put some sense...er...braveness into their brains. Howell, Ron might've not hinted it. And Hermione might just be to shy to admit.
I wasn't a HP book reader since the last 3 weeks, and with only the movie feeding me of scenes of what R/Hr & H/Hr couples will be like, I can say that the directors of the past 3 movies, of course the screenplay writer as well, had obviously plotted the "tension" between the two (R/Hr) of them. Hahahaha. Those scenes wherein Ron is obviously avoiding Hermione and vice-versa made me so happy.
A Ron/Hermione shipper forever.
Although Ron would've chosen me. Hahaha. Now, that's a joke. *peace*
muggleview
Oct 20 2005, 01:07 AM
PigWithHair,
Jo Rowling already said this when the first book was published. She showed off a folder with Book 7 last paragraph to the audience. She mentioned that she has plotted book 1 to 7 and book 1 contains the main plot. Later on she hinted that the relationships are there also. It was a long time ago, not a recent interview.
Aren't we all guilty for over-analyzing? Jo Rowling as a human being is imperfect in creating her characters (unlike our Creator), but the readers are analyzing the characters like human beings we know. Of course, there will be gaps. Like Hermione can suddenly be like this and that. I see that's all possible, and in real life, her chance of survival is probably not high. But in a fiction, the main good characters usually win and survive.
Luna is also an incomplete character, but Jo likes her, so she may survive in book 7 as well. For her future love life, I am afraid Jo may not pair her with anyone. Basically, she can end up with a total stranger that she will meet at her future workplace. That's beyond the scope of Harry Potter series. Can be a spin-off for Luna series, though.

Privet Drive: Ron said he will go where Harry goes. Without Dumbledore, Harry is in danger. Once he is 17, Aunt Petunia will not able to protect him. Ron offered to give him protection. As already in Book 5 (ending), Ron automatically spoke on behalf of him and Hermione altogether. He must have thought of something. Hermione may stay with Mrs. Figgs, for example, who owns kneazles to play with Crookshanks.
I really wonder whether 12 GP will later be given to Ron and Hermione as a wedding gift by Harry.
Regarding the Moment, my first thought was Ron or Hermione was in mortal danger and they just exchanged the love statements at that time. However, another way of doing that is when Ron asked Harry if he knows a good place to raise a family because Ron and Hermione decided to get married. That's what I meant earlier. Hermione is a shy girl who may not like to be kissed in public (except in her wedding). Just like Molly Weasley, who turned red when given affection by Arthur.
Jelchu, that makes two of us who wanted to give a smack to both of them. However, they just enjoy the slow built-up of their love, so let them be.
For all,
Do you think Ron and Hermione will live in Muggle world or Wizarding world?
kipsy
Oct 20 2005, 02:44 AM
AGH!!
I can't tear myself away from this thread!!! I keep trying to stay away from ships in general, (it got me in a lot of mess in the past), but oh god, it's just too hard. Especially when you guys are going over "the moment", which I've had planned out since the fourth book practically.
Anway....
I like all your ideas, but I've always imagined it as a history repeating itself from CoS. So, you know how in the end Hermione runs down the Great Hall and greets Harry with a hug, and Ron with a handshake? (I know, it's the movie, but whatever) Well anyway, I imagined it like that, but this time, she greets Ron first, and instead of shaking his hand, she kisses him. And Ron's all like "WHOA! What's happening?!" But then he goes along. I expect it'll be at the wedding, because JKR's gonna want to finish off the romance for once and for all, and have the rest of the time for the horcruxes. So yes, and Harry and Ginny type thing, because I was never into the whole "I've loved you for so long, darling Ronald."

And I'm obsesed with romance. Go figure.
PigWithHair
Oct 20 2005, 09:12 PM
Muggleview,
Hmm..well, you gave me lots of food for thought.
Okay, I had heard about that JKR quote before but I guess I interpreted it quite differently. I do know she has had the last chapter of Book 7 (which she called the epilogue) written for a long time and obviously she's had everything plotted out before the first book was published.
But I interpreted that differently. So, you mean that SS was the entire series in miniature in a way? I hadn't taken it that way. I guess I just thought there were clues in SS to what was coming in subsequent books.
If SS is a preview of the actual ending of the series itself, then I'm wrong and Ron gets injured again while sacrificing himself, which certainly isn't outside the realm of possibility. I guess I just thought it would be Hermione who would get injured, though I see both of them sacrificing themselves again (but surviving) so Harry can go on.
You're probably right and there will be no ship for Luna.
You're also right that Ron said he and Hermione would be with Harry wherever he went. I just don't get how she's going to have Ron and Hermione actually staying with Harry at the Dursleys. That'd be a cozy visit, eh?
Or will something else happen, Harry didn't expect at the end of Book 6 to change things? Probably not. It looks like JKR mapped out what we can expect when Harry was ticking off the list of what he's going to do.
Yeah, I've wondered if Harry will give Ron and Hermione Grimmauld Place, too, though it doesn't seem like the type of place I see them living. Ron grew up in the country at the Burrow (well, Ottery St. Catchpole sounds like "country" to this suburbanite girl), so I picture he and Herm living in the country also.
Harry HAS said he doesn't want to go back to Grimmauld Place, though. Maybe he'll give it to Lupin and Tonks?
Speaking of them: great ship and sailed in my book. Tonks has grown on me. She can make Lupin happy, which he so desperately needs.
Actually, I think Ron and Hermione will live IN the wizarding world, with her family coming into it more when visiting them.
Kipsy,
Yeah, I don't see "darling Ronald," either. I did see Ron faced with losing Hermione, and then just kissing her because he just can't stand not to anymore.
Yeah, I can't escape this thread either.
kool kat
Oct 21 2005, 01:39 AM
I'm not sure how Ron and Hermione get together...my guess: they keep it their business, and assume Harry knows. Like, they keep their relationship very low profile, and just know that Harry knows. It'll be almost the same, except they will be more protective of each other, laugh with each other, blushing every know and then....I don't expecr kissing, I expect it to be something we just assume.
muggleview
Oct 21 2005, 02:54 AM
Hi Kipsy, just like you I tried to stay away from the shipping for sometime after the verdict, but I miss the thread so much that I keep coming back.
I like the reserve of COS Movie scenario! Ron would be in shock.
On the other hand my guess for the public kissing is similar to PigWithHair's, with a twist: in Harry's presence, Hermione is scolding Ron for not being man enough to make decision, basically one of the usual bickering between them, but this time Ron is not trying to reply. He is watching Hermione's speaking, until at one point, he loses his patience and kisses her to shut her up, ignoring Harry's roaring laugh.
As Koolkat is saying, Ron and Hermione are keen to keep their relationship private, with seldom public presentation. So my presumption: one or two kisses will be the most we can witness (unlike Harry and Ginny, of course Harry couldn't hide it from the readers, even he hides it from public).
PigWithHair,
There are articles in Mugglenet connecting the story in Book 1 to the whole series. The dead knight is now known to be Sirius. The other sacrificial knight is Dumbledore! We know Dumbledore was the one giving commands in the war against DeathEaters. His sacrifice will open the chance for Harry to beat the Dark Lord. So Ron won't have to sacrifice himself. He served as the picture of Dumbledore.
Another thing connected to the series is the 7 potions and DADA teachers. Now we had all 3 poisons (assuming Snape is considered one, then Quirell and Barty Couch, Jr.), one backward (Lupin for the history of Harry's father), two wines (=harmless and useless: Lockhart, Umbridge), next we will have one forward, the teacher who will prepare and bring Harry face to face to Voldemort. I used to think it will be Snape, but now it can be Dumbledore himself (from of his portrait, for example, or as a ghost like Prof. Binn).
Ron and Hermione will help Harry as much as possible, but at the end Harry will be alone facing Voldemort, who may have taken Ginny hostage and unexpected to Voldemort, her situation will even give Harry the vital weapon to fight him: Love.
I believe some of these have been discussed in other threads, I just want to summarize for you a few theories that I support.
I personally think Ron and Hermione ought to live in Muggle world. It would be sad for Hermione's parents to lose their only daughter to another world (or dimension or realm). Ron and Hermione will still work in Wizarding world, but they can live in Muggleworld close to the parents. It will be a good experience. Their children will go to public school as Hermione did, because I doubt Hermione will have time to homeschool her children. After school, the children will go to their grandparents home until Ron and Hermione pick them up. Hopefully both don't have to work overtime too much, like Arthur.
Actually Ron may not want to receive GP for free. He has his pride. He wanted to pay Harry for things Harry bought for him. So I think Harry will sell GP to Ron and Hermione for a low price. Why I like the idea? Ron and Hermione has cleaned up the house thoroughly in OOP. When I read it, I thought "Whoaa, are they preparing their nest??" I was so excited when Dumbledore said Harry inherited the house, and that he doesn't like to live there in HBP. Typical Jo, she may set the plan for our beloved Ron and Hermione to take care of it. The irony: The house of the purest in blood Black family will become a house of the purest in heart (Ron and Hermione) Weasley family. We don't know where Hermione's parents live, but hopefully it is not too far away from London or 12 GP.
jelchu
Oct 21 2005, 05:21 PM
| QUOTE (muggleview) |
| Jelchu, that makes two of us who wanted to give a smack to both of them. However, they just enjoy the slow built-up of their love, so let them be. |
Ditto.
But I love Ron so much, I don't think I can whack him or something.
I am actually thinking about how will Ron realized that he's already falling for Hermione. I mean, Hermione
might've known it by book 6. I wished JKR will include a detailed
revelation part for Ron.
OMG! I can think of anything sweeter than that. With matching Ron's facial expression, us shippers can just swoon.
muggleview
Oct 25 2005, 05:19 AM
Jelchu,
Regarding the question: how will Ron realized that he's already falling for Hermione, it was already answered in Book4 and will be shown in movie 4.
The answer is when there is a significant threat of losing her to someone else! Although Ron has more or less fell for Hermione since Book 2, without fully realizing about it, he didn't take the romance seriously until the worthy love rival arrived in form of the famous great Viktor Krum. He didn't entirely notice Hermione as a "girl" until someone else asked her out.
In Book 6, Ron has repeatedly stated his feelings to Hermione although the statements are not as clear as in average romance novels.
For example:
- Hermione asked if Ron would like her to go with someone else. Ron replied: "No, I wouldn't" and made Hermione's heart beating very fast.
- At the point of death, Ron mumbled the name: "Er-my-nee". That basically stopped Hermione's anger to him. After he recovered, Hermione treated him very tenderly (in contrast to the "Cold Christmas")
- Ron said it, right? "I love you, Hermione" in typical Ron's way: not seriously, but it's sincere and, I think, carefully stated (so not to shock Harry).
By now it's clear that Ron has no other girl he seriously thought to be his soulmate other than Hermione. Likewise, Hermione has been shooting for Ron since Book 1! It was Ron who made her enter Harry's and Ron's compartment. It was Ron who could make her mad, sad and glad. Hermione has never wavered in her choice, despite her impatience to Ron's slow maturity growth (as a "typical" Jo Rowling's boy).
I think Rupert Grint is really great in playing Ron. His sneer and smile can really kill girls, although no boys can truly say he is handsome or very attractive.
kipsy
Oct 25 2005, 06:14 AM
Ron liked Hermione right from the start - he just didn't realize it. In fact, I think they both liked each other without really understanding why or really, what was going on. In the fourth book, Hermione wasn't trying to make Ron jealous of Victor, nor did Ron know he was jealous. He definitly knew something was up, but he didn't understand what, and so he made up excuses. 'You're fraternizing with the enemy.' anyone?
Hermione figured it out quicker, and I think by the fourth book she knew something was definitly going on between them. It takes Ron until the sixth book to figure out something was going on.
If you guys have read the MN/TLC interview, JKR said that Ron needed to grow up. She wasn't going to put him with Hermione, and make his first relationship a huge success. He needed to fail first in order to succeed. That was Lavender's purpose. She was just supposed to be the mistake that makes Ron realize who he was really meant for. They each got on failed relationship before getting on to work. For Harry it was Cho, and the success was Ginny. For Ron it was Lavender, and eventually he'll end up with a success in Hermione. Don't you see the pattern? Honestly, I can't believe I didn't figure it out sooner. All we needed was for Ginny to spell it out for us. And when I read it was I was like 'ohhhh, so
that's where she's going.' I could predict Ron was going to do something stupid, in order for him to have his failed relationship, and therefore opening an oppurtunity for a successful one.
And of course they've stated their feelings for eachother bunches of times! It's just been buried and twisted somehow.
| QUOTE (muggleview) |
| Hermione asked if Ron would like her to go with someone else. Ron replied: "No, I wouldn't" and made Hermione's heart beating very fast. |
I mean, it's right out in front of you. They basically admitted it to eachother, and I seriously think
something would've happened had Harry not knocked over that bowl. (

) Still, it was crucial, because they fessed up.
Moving on, I really think they're already together. Not like they're together in secret or anything, but I think without realizing it, they've sort of became a couple. It's not official or anything, but they've gone through the failed relationships, they know they like the other person, they should be pretty sure the other one likes them....what's left to do? They've gotten through the obstacles in their way, now all they have to do is finally blurt it out, no twists, not buried under anything, just plain and simple. (Like Harry kissing Ginny, or just plain saying it, or whatever).
All that's needed is a tiny nudge, and we're there.
PigWithHair
Oct 25 2005, 05:57 PM
| QUOTE (muggleview @ Oct 24 2005, 10:26 PM) |
Regarding the question: how will Ron realized that he's already falling for Hermione, it was already answered in Book4 and will be shown in movie 4. The answer is when there is a significant threat of losing her to someone else!
- Hermione asked if Ron would like her to go with someone else. Ron replied: "No, I wouldn't" and made Hermione's heart beating very fast. - At the point of death, Ron mumbled the name: "Er-my-nee". That basically stopped Hermione's anger to him. After he recovered, Hermione treated him very tenderly (in contrast to the "Cold Christmas") - Ron said it, right? "I love you, Hermione" in typical Ron's way: not seriously, but it's sincere and, I think, carefully stated (so not to shock Harry).
I think Rupert Grint is really great in playing Ron. His sneer and smile can really kill girls, although no boys can truly say he is handsome or very attractive. |
Oh! Lots to comment on here!
Yes, Ron did fall for Hermione when he saw her with someone else (especially his favorite Quidditch star!), but I agree with Kipsy that he didn't realize he was falling for her until Book 6 when, as Muggleview pointed out, he said, "No, I wouldn't."
Great, great quote!
A big thank you to the filmmakers for having Ron and Hermione's Yule Brawl in the film!
In Book 6, I think it was very clear that Ron was realizing that, even though there was someone else willing to snog him, he only really wanted to be with Hermione.
- "Is Hermione really going out with McLaggen?"
- "So will Hermione be dropping by?"
- "Er - my - nee!"
And by the way - if "Er - my - nee!" isn't in the HBP film, I'm going to send very annoying complaints to WB. THAT is truly a great moment!
No, she didn't go out with Viktor to make Ron jealous. She went out with Viktor because he asked her. She did go to Slughorn's party with McLaggen only to make Ron jealous, though. She admits that to Harry.
- "I thought McLaggen would annoy Ron the most."
I don't think Ron really had any conscious thought that he really meant it when he said "I love you, Hermione." I really don't. Did he know he had special feelings for Hermione (romantic in nature) by then - oh yeah! But I don't think he yet really realizes he's in love with her, even though he is.
But, I do think it is a foreshadowing of what Ron will say to her in Book 7. Ron's sarcasm is a true "See -er."
As to Hermione, well, girls do realize these things quicker then guys (sorry guys!) for the most part. So, it makes sense that Ron takes longer. Hermione, I think realizes she is falling for Ron by Book 4. She knows it by the Yule Ball. She was obviously upset that Ron didn't ask her.
"Ask me before someone else does next time and not as a last resort!"
She would NOT have said that unless her feelings for him were already pretty strong.
Yeah, I agree Kipsy that more would have been said if Harry hadn't knocked over the bowl. But Ron wasn't ready as you mentioned. JKR, I think, did the right thing in having Ron go through the whole Lavender mess. He's been through that and now knows the difference between what is real and what is not.
I also agree that they are already unconsciously a couple, but not officially. Not yet. Somewhere in Book 7 one of the following will happen:
- Ron asks Hermione out (to the wedding? Maybe too early in the book)
- Ron asks Hermione to dance (wedding)
- Hermione asks Ron out (she's already done this once, so seems least likely to me. The ball is in Ron's court, so to speak.
- They skip the above and just kiss ( a' la Harry & Ginny )
Muggleview,
Agree with you about Rupert Grint. I certainly would not want to see anyone else in that role, and I thought he was pretty much Ron jumped off the page for me. Kloves does shift away too many of Ron's lines though and I wish that would let up a bit.
Not attractive? Have to disagree with you there.
On a new note,
I REALLY hope the "And what did you say?" is in the OoftP film. I will be completely bummed if it is left out.
It seems to me that the romantic love between Ron and Hermione will play a part in Book 7 as I think all the different types of love JKR has brought out in the books (romantic, parental, obsessive) are there for a reason, having to do with the overall plot. Love has been a recurring theme.
Since JKR made such a point of saying how bad Ron is at throwing off the Imperious Curse (and Draco would know) does this come back around to haunt Ron and will his love for Hermione be the thing that helps him throw it off?
muggleview
Oct 26 2005, 02:31 AM
Kipsy, glad to see you are in form for great postings again!
| QUOTE (Kipsy) |
| Moving on, I really think they're already together. Not like they're together in secret or anything, but I think without realizing it, they've sort of became a couple. |
Great! I think this becomes the premise for Book 7. There is no other way. Jo Rowling has narrowed the path of the storyline. Ron and Hermione can only further to be a real couple. No more doubt, no more insecurity. They just know that they are meant to be together, kind of naturally melting together. Of course, there will be some challenges, for example Viktor will reappear in Book 7, but those challenges will prove that they are really made for each other.
It's even getting on Emma Watson's nerves, that during the last press conference (with Matthew in it) she cried out for Jo to just make R/Hr official in public. At least a kiss, or two or three (consolation for waiting so long)
| QUOTE (PigWithHair) |
| (Rupert Grint) Not attractive? Have to disagree with you there. |
Hey, I said "boys". Okay, okay, he is attractive. I was just a bit jealous because my girl really likes him and I keep asking myself what she saw in him. I think that how Lavender and Hermione and Luna see Ron as well

.
Yes, PigWithHair, I hope Steve Kloves will elevate Ron's character at least to the one we know in books. I hope those memorable exchanges between Ron and Hermione will not be cut off. Isn't "what did you say" supposed to be in the 4th? I don't think it's in the Movie 4.
PigWithHair
Oct 26 2005, 06:40 AM
Mug,
Hmm...I thought it was in Book 5 where they're in Potions and Hermione is talking about how Rita Skeeter could have overheard Viktor asking her to Bulgaria. And Ron -
"And what did you say?"
But, easily I could be wrong. Thank you, thank you for giving me new incentive to yank out my books and give them another read! (Like I need a reason!)
I'll have to scour my books again and find the right location. If it was in Book 4...bummer. If not, there is still hope! Are you listening, WB?
Well?
I couldn't agree more with Emma Watson. Get on with it, already!
And yes, there had better be a couple kisses (at least) in there as well, thanks!
jelchu
Oct 26 2005, 10:38 AM
| QUOTE (muggleview @ Oct 24 2005, 10:26 PM) |
Jelchu,
Regarding the question: how will Ron realized that he's already falling for Hermione, it was already answered in Book4 and will be shown in movie 4. The answer is when there is a significant threat of losing her to someone else! Although Ron has more or less fell for Hermione since Book 2, without fully realizing about it, he didn't take the romance seriously until the worthy love rival arrived in form of the famous great Viktor Krum. He didn't entirely notice Hermione as a "girl" until someone else asked her out. In Book 6, Ron has repeatedly stated his feelings to Hermione although the statements are not as clear as in average romance novels. For example: - Hermione asked if Ron would like her to go with someone else. Ron replied: "No, I wouldn't" and made Hermione's heart beating very fast. - At the point of death, Ron mumbled the name: "Er-my-nee". That basically stopped Hermione's anger to him. After he recovered, Hermione treated him very tenderly (in contrast to the "Cold Christmas") - Ron said it, right? "I love you, Hermione" in typical Ron's way: not seriously, but it's sincere and, I think, carefully stated (so not to shock Harry).
By now it's clear that Ron has no other girl he seriously thought to be his soulmate other than Hermione. Likewise, Hermione has been shooting for Ron since Book 1! It was Ron who made her enter Harry's and Ron's compartment. It was Ron who could make her mad, sad and glad. Hermione has never wavered in her choice, despite her impatience to Ron's slow maturity growth (as a "typical" Jo Rowling's boy).
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what a coincidence it would be that these are the parts of the book I had read and re-read to check if I was just reading it badly. It's just like, it's obvious. prefectly obvious.
too much fanfic is getting over my head. I really love this pair-up.
| QUOTE |
| I think Rupert Grint is really great in playing Ron. His sneer and smile can really kill girls, although no boys can truly say he is handsome or very attractive. |
Ditto.
Rupert Grint will always be
Ron Weasley. Period.
I could care less if boys find him not handsome or attractive enough, at least he gets to play the part of best bud of
the boy who lived. And he's with him saving the Wizarding World.

And if people want proof that
His sneer and smile can really kill girls, you can always count ME as a casualty.
MOD EDIT: Your second post is below, please see Kipsy's explanation. Thanks, Mason.______________________________________________________
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For all, Do you think Ron and Hermione will live in Muggle world or Wizarding world? |
they'll live in the muggle word and work in the wizarding one. one foot for each.
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| Hey, I said "boys". Okay, okay, he is attractive. I was just a bit jealous because my girl really likes him and I keep asking myself what she saw in him. I think that how Lavender and Hermione and Luna see Ron as well. |
point taken.
QUOTE (PigWithHair)
| QUOTE |
| And by the way - if "Er - my - nee!" isn't in the HBP film, I'm going to send very annoying complaints to WB. THAT is truly a great moment! |
Ditto. If ever you'll be sending a complaint, let me know. I'll go with you. hahaha.
my eyes are bleeding but I just have to finish reading this thread. I't so amazing.
kipsy
Oct 27 2005, 02:33 AM
Hey jelchu, could you check out the forum rules? (I've linked you to them in my sig). If you could try not to double post, that'd be awesome. Instead we'd prefer it if you would edit your previous post to add what you missed. There's an edit button right on the top right hand corner of your posts. A mod should swing by now, and combine the posts.

If you haven't already, you should check out newbie central, (linked in my sig). And if you have any questions, feel free to send me a pm. (Linked in my sig).
(lol, after that I don't really feel like adding comments to the thread, but i will be back!! The temptation is just too difficult!!

)
muggleview
Oct 27 2005, 07:48 AM
| QUOTE (Jelchu) |
| Rupert Grint will always be Ron Weasley. Period |
I think so. I hope so. In Book 6, Jo Rowling has acknowledged Rupert's great contribution in portraying Ron, by allowing Slughorn to "accidently" call Ron, Rupert. Now I actually think one of the main reasons why Ron and Hermione haven't kissed yet (at least in public) is because Rupert had once said he would rather Ron be killed than kiss any girls. Of course Rupert (typical boy) is (jokingly) being hypocrite here. Apparently it sticks very well in Jo's mind, so in Book 6, she deliberately wrote Ron kissing Lavender so often that Lavender said "time not used for kissing is considered wasted". Let's see how Rupert has to perform it in Movie 6, before finally allowed to kiss Emma in Movie 7. (Emma got to kiss Viktor in Movie 4, I heard)
On a side note, I wonder what happened to the girl who played Lavender in Movie 1 to 3 (maybe also 4). Has she dropped dead after reading Book 6?

(Another casualty, Jelchu) Because I heard rumours that there will be a casting for new Lavender for Movie 6.
Anyway, supporting Kipsy, who I'm sure will jump in again very soon, I think Ron and Hermione not only are together by the end of book 6, but they might have kissed behind Harry's back, when Harry noticed how Ron suddenly had to go to the restroom to throw up and Hermione suddenly had to go to meet a teacher (no clear name mentioned), at the same time, after the Lavender affair was over.
PigWithHair
Oct 27 2005, 09:58 AM
| QUOTE (muggleview @ Oct 27 2005, 12:55 AM) |
| QUOTE (Jelchu) | | Rupert Grint will always be Ron Weasley. Period |
I think Ron and Hermione not only are together by the end of book 6, but they might have kissed behind Harry's back, when Harry noticed how Ron suddenly had to go to the restroom to throw up and Hermione suddenly had to go to meet a teacher (no clear name mentioned), at the same time, after the Lavender affair was over.
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RG = RW?
Works for me. Can't fathom anyone else in the role, but the same holds true for Emma and Dan. Really, it would be like replacing Mark Hamill as Luke or something. Just would not work. But yeah, no one else could really portray Ron.
Mug,
Say it isn't so. I would scream blue murder if I start to read book 7 and find out Ron and Hermione have already kissed or Ron has already asked Hermione out and we (the readers) did not get to observe it!
Nope. Uh uh. No way. Six friggin' books these two have been at it. We've eaten the crackerjacks. It's time for the prize.
kipsy
Oct 27 2005, 08:44 PM
| QUOTE (Muggleview) |
| Rupert had once said he would rather Ron be killed than kiss any girls. Of course Rupert (typical boy) is (jokingly) being hypocrite here. Apparently it sticks very well in Jo's mind, so in Book 6, she deliberately wrote Ron kissing Lavender so often that Lavender said "time not used for kissing is considered wasted". Let's see how Rupert has to perform it in Movie 6 |
LOL, don't you wish you could go back in time and show young Rupert what happens? He'd probably resign after reading that!

(Not that I'd want him to, but it'd still be kinda funny....)
| QUOTE (jelchu) |
| Rupert Grint will always be Ron Weasley. Period. |
I have to agree, Rupert is the perfect Ron.
| QUOTE (Pigwithhair) |
Yes, Ron did fall for Hermione when he saw her with someone else (especially his favorite Quidditch star!), but I agree with Kipsy that he didn't realize he was falling for her until Book 6 when, as Muggleview pointed out, he said, "No, I wouldn't."
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Yes, I was
so glad she put that in, because he
finally realized it! I wanted to give him a big hug there and just congratulate him on finally growing up!! A little slow, but you made up for it!

(A lot actually, but whatever.

)
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Of course, there will be some challenges, for example Viktor will reappear in Book 7, but those challenges will prove that they are really made for each other.
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Oh god no, please, not Viktor. They've come so far!! If he messes it up, I will not be happy.
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| I don't think Ron really had any conscious thought that he really meant it when he said "I love you, Hermione." I really don't. Did he know he had special feelings for Hermione (romantic in nature) by then - oh yeah! But I don't think he yet really realizes he's in love with her, even though he is. |
You know, I was a little surprised he said that. I think in the past books he wouldn't have
ever have said that for in fear that he really did. Another sign of maturity! Good job Ron!
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Not attractive? Have to disagree with you there.
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Hahaha, you know I used to think he was so cute when he was in the first three movies. But I wish he'd cut his hair. Please Rupert, you looked so much better when it was short!!
PigWithHair
Oct 27 2005, 09:43 PM
Kipsy,
I'm outta time and have to run, but just wanted to say that typically, I don't fancy long hair on men (guys). It usually bothers me. But, I guess its the red hair. I actually like it.
Much more to say, but will have to post later after pre-Halloween festivities!
PwH
jelchu
Oct 28 2005, 05:32 AM
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| Hahaha, you know I used to think he was so cute when he was in the first three movies. But I wish he'd cut his hair. Please Rupert, you looked so much better when it was short!! |
The frodo look doesn't suite him. I love his hair in PoA, brush up and all.
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Say it isn't so. I would scream blue murder if I start to read book 7 and find out Ron and Hermione have already kissed or Ron has already asked Hermione out and we (the readers) did not get to observe it!
Nope. Uh uh. No way. Six friggin' books these two have been at it. We've eaten the crackerjacks. It's time for the prize. |
Same here. Hahahaha. Haven't we read and re-read the book enough for possible lapses?
Anyway, I love surprises.
muggleview
Oct 29 2005, 12:20 AM
Oh, oh, oh, am I in trouble again? I just want to prepare y'all not to be disappointed. Of course, I will be very very delighted to witness Ron and Hermione's first kiss, but Jo Rowling is unpredictable in this, and she has been trying to trick us several times (some of the readers are still being tricked into thinking Ron and Hermione will never be a couple). To me (should I blame myself for being a boy with an emotional range of some kind of spoon), a kiss is a kiss is a kiss. I will be happy if Jo shows Ron and Hermione shared a kiss, not on the cheek or hand, even if it's not the first time, as long as it's not the last

.
Actually Ron has said something in HBP that was probably not important. When confronted by Ginny, he mentioned that he has kissed but not in public, or something like that. Maybe he has kissed Hermione before but not in public? Before PwH and Kipsy think of skinning me alive, let me rebut this myself by mentioning that in Jo's interview with Melissa and Emerson, Jo stated she arranged the main characters not to have their first kiss with the intended partner, so Ron had to kiss Lavender before Hermione. But of course, Jo can be very tricky. She deliberately wants to make us wait until Book 7 before telling us whether Ron has kissed Hermione in the previous books or not, just like the case of Hermione kissing Viktor.
PigWithHair
Oct 29 2005, 05:07 AM
(deep breath)
Okay. Where to start?
Oh...Mug, you first:
You were not in trouble until you mentioned it would be okay to see Ron and Hermione kiss even if it wasn't their first.
Whoops!
Trouble!
I will be really mad if this is the case, though I have to say I don't think it is. By the end of HBP, I certainly did not have the feeling that they had kissed at all, but that Ron was finally - how shall I say this - comfortable enough with his feelings to hold Hermione in front of everyone. But kiss? No. I don't think yet.
Frankly, I have a feeling that she will give them all these "close calls" throughout Book 7, but that it won't be until the end where we really see Ron and Hermione kiss (and I'm thinking here of a real Bridget Jones-type kiss. You know, the end scene where Bridget and Mark Darcy kiss for about 5 minutes? THAT kind of kiss. No simple pecks, please!)
And, Mug..."a kiss is a kiss is a kiss?"
Um...WHAT??!
No, no. There are kisses and then there are kisses. And Ron and Hermione both deserve (as certainly do we) the later.
As far as Ron saying to Ginny that he just didn't kiss in public, I'm quite sure that Ginny was right about that. That was just Ron trying to cover up the fact that he had NO experience in kissing, let alone anything else. He certainly put in a public appearance with Lavender, eh? But with Hermione, it would be much more private. His romantic relationship with Hermione has nothing to do with proving anything, showing off or making anyone else jealous (all of which describe his "relationship" with Lav-Lav). In fact, I bet they try to do as little as possible, even in front of Harry.
Especially in front of Harry.
And then we come to the next item. Did Hermione really kiss Krum? Well, since JKR seems to want these characters to have a bit of kissing (snogging) experience before they become a couple, I'd have to say yes, she did. But I think it was not the greatest kiss. Only exciting because it was her first, though disappointing to Hermione that it was from Krum and not from Ron.
It is pretty apparent, to this girl anyway, that Hermione has very strong feelings for Ron by the Yule Brawl. She had wanted Ron to want to go to the ball with her. And, she had wanted Ron to want to kiss her, but Ron took her for granted and Krum won out.
Jelchu,
Well, I really liked his hair in PofA, too. Probably better than I like it now, but I have to say that I do like it as it is now. Hmm...that's really different for me. I normally don't like it.
Kipsy,
Yes, Viktor is coming back in Book 7, but will Ron and Hermione already be together enough to weather this storm? Will Viktor's main thing be to help fight the Dark Arts?
Well, I'm betting he's used - at least a little bit - to get Ron's attention again. What a tidbit that was to read that he (Krum) is coming back!
And you're right. Before the Lavender thing, Ron would never have said "I love you" even in a joking manner to Hermione. But he's past that now. C'mon, Ron! Let's hear the words for real!
Mindblowing
Oct 29 2005, 06:07 AM
I don't think that Ron and Hermione have kissed yet. I hope not. I really would want to see theyr first kiss. It has to come. They are ment for each other.
I also liked Rons hair more in the third movie.