muggleview
Oct 29 2005, 07:09 AM
PwH, have mercy!
| QUOTE (PigWithHair) |
| ...but that it won't be until the end where we really see Ron and Hermione kiss |
My gut feeling tells me that you are probably right. Their public kiss will be very meaningful. Frankly, the kiss I really hope to witness is their wedding kiss, because that means lifelong commitment (unless it's in Hollywood). But as far as first or not...
| QUOTE (PigWithHair) |
| In fact, I bet they try to do as little as possible, even in front of Harry. |
That's what I was trying to point out. All those time behind Harry's back (doing Prefect duties, "waiting" for Harry in detention, etc.) could it be... Okay, I'll better stop here before getting in trouble again with all you gals.

Enough to say: there is none in the canon until Book 6 showing beyond doubt that R-Hr have kissed.
| QUOTE (PigWithHair) |
| Only exciting because it was her first, though disappointing to Hermione that it was from Krum and not from Ron. |
That's probably why Hermione didn't want to mention about it anymore. However, Ron took it differently. He thought Hermione was betraying their budding relationship by kissing someone else first. Yes, it's not easy to look at oneself and find oneself guilty. Ron didn't bother to check with himself, that his ignorance to Hermione as a "girl" had given the chance for Viktor to ask Hermione out. All he can see is Hermione kissed Viktor first, not him. Finally Ron realized that after so many kisses with Lav-lav, the kiss doesn't mean anything, without there is no real feeling in it. The important thing is the feeling. Even if Hermione didn't get the first kiss from Ron, hopefully she will get the last kiss from him.
About long hair: I don't like it, but apparently it's okay in the wizarding world. Dumbledore set the example. Bill Weasley wanted his. The Twins and Ron followed. Then, Harry. Funny that Neville, Dean, Seamus, Viktor, Cedric don't have long hair.
PigWithHair
Oct 29 2005, 04:03 PM
| QUOTE (muggleview @ Oct 29 2005, 12:16 AM) |
Frankly, the kiss I really hope to witness is their wedding kiss, because that means lifelong commitment (unless it's in Hollywood). But as far as first or not... Finally Ron realized that after so many kisses with Lav-lav, the kiss doesn't mean anything, without there is no real feeling in it. The important thing is the feeling. Even if Hermione didn't get the first kiss from Ron, hopefully she will get the last kiss from him.
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Well, I don't think we'll see any weddings, but I do think JKR will make it VERY obvious by the end of Book 7 that what's between Ron & Hermione is lifelong.
Although, the Weasleys married young, but....well, no I don't think we'll see that. I'd be happy with Ron telling her how he feels and showing her (as described in my last post).
Regarding Ron's realization...well, yeah, he does learn all that. In addition though, he keeps thinking about Hermione when he's going out with Lavender.
- " (Ron looked at her furtively)."
- " Is Hermione really going out with McLaggen?"
- Ron pulling away from Lavender when Hermione tells Parvati she's going with McLaggen
- Ron trying to get Hermione's attention when they get back from the holidays...and she ignores him.
He realized it wasn't too satisfying going out with one girl while he really wanted to be with another whom he couldn't stop thinking of.
Mindblowing,
Oh, I so agree!
Next point of discussion:
Will there be yet another episode of Viktor making Ron jealous to spur Ron into action? Or has Ron and Hermione's relationship strengthened enough after Book 6's debacle between them so that he won't get jealous of Famous Viktor Krum?
muggleview
Oct 29 2005, 04:12 PM
Currently, Viktor is indeed the only one who can still spur doubt in Ron's mind about Hermione's feeling. It's a test for Ron to see how he handles his relationship with Hermione in mature way and a great chance for Hermione to show Ron the certainty of her true feeling to Ron.
I think Viktor Krum will be brought back to show how solid Ron-Hermione relationship is. It's possible that Viktor becomes a Death-Eater and Ron has to fight against him (which is also for Hermione), or Viktor tries to approach Hermione, but she shows she sticks with Ron or something that Jo Rowling has in her mind.
decemberphoenix
Oct 29 2005, 09:37 PM
Why is theyre even a forum for this , everyone knows they so belong together, omg theyre fighting is just a liitle cover-up because everyone knows they have a soft spot for each other

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anyway, what does mike newell think hes doing , making harry and hermione look like thay have a crush on each other, stupid head
Hi there, please check out the rules here. The use of excessive characters (duuuuuhhhhh etc )and net speak 'y' are not allowed here on the vtm forum. It's now been edited.
Also please watch how you address other members there is no need to call someones ship unnecessery.
Thanks Shane
PigWithHair
Oct 30 2005, 12:42 AM
Decemberphoenix,
Not sure what all the fuss is about Harry/Hermione crush because I don't see it, but I guess that's for a different thread.
I've watched the 13 news clips and see some great Ron/Hermoine stuff coming our way in November! But I won't post spoilers about it.
muggleview
Oct 30 2005, 04:36 AM
PigwithHair, what's to be spoiled? Is it not in the book?
I can't wait until the day you will reveal them!
DecemberPhoenix, we are here to enjoy discussing about Ron and Hermione's relationship, more to speculate the future. It's a relief not to worry about the certainty of the relationship. Jo Rowling has made it clear. Now we can think of what will happen to them. At this time, it's still about when is their first kiss. Was? or Will be? and How?
PigWithHair
Oct 30 2005, 05:07 AM
Mug,
Some people didn't want to see clips from the movie because they feel it'll spoil the movie for them, whether they've read the book or not.
Thus, I won't talk about them. But you can check them out for yourself. Go to mugglenet.com. The link is there, and they're great! I'm very juiced to see the movie, so much so that we're actually going to get a babysitter and go! Just my husband and me!! Wow! Never happens!
Oh, right, let's talk about the first kiss some more. So, will it happen at Bill & Phlegm's wedding?
Will it happen at the end of the book after a bunch of near-misses throughout the book?
Or will something happen between Ron and Hermione while they're all staying at the Durselys? (All three in Harry's room? Should be interesting!)
muggleview
Oct 30 2005, 05:49 AM
Wow, PwH! You and your husband will be feeling like teenagers again at the cinema. I believe you two will enjoy it immensely.
At Bill and Fleur's wedding: Ginny vs. Gabrielle, while Ron and Hermione will think (or argue) about their own. Nope, I don't think they will kiss here.
At the end of the book: Most likely. Ron and Hermione are not keen to show their feelings in public unless they are so overwhelmed with emotion, such as after Voldemort is vanguished and they both survive and find each other's arm.
At the Dursleys: Well, Ron will learn how Muggle spouses act to each other (Uncle Vernon and Aunt Petunia). I wonder whether he will be discouraged or encouraged by their behaviour. A kiss will be a bit out of place.
Of course Jo can do what she wants, but that's my take. Let's see what the others say. I hope I won't get into trouble this time.

EDIT: PwH, thanks for the tip. I found out about the 13 clips. Yes, they are great and potentially will ruin some people's fun if they see them.
RavenMist
Oct 30 2005, 06:04 AM
Oh my, been a while since i posted here.
Hehe, yep Mug, for all we know Jo could make Ron/Hermione's first public kiss in the Owlery in there undergarmets.
Though i highly doubt she would do that.
Though i do think they will have one or two public kisses. Either might be as ...awkward as it were between Harry and Ginny when they had there whole house watching them. Or might be just be for celebration.
Actually it also could be in fear or anger. Like one idea someone mentioned here, Hermione might be nagging Ron none stop about something silly till Ron finally loses it and kisses her.
i'd probably squee with delight if it happened that way though, hmm suddenly my writing mind is working...i am going to go write a one-shot fanfiction.
Hermione03
Oct 30 2005, 09:40 PM
They belong together. I just know it. And in HBP, when Ron is writing an essay (I think) and he spills ink or something and Hermione fixes it, Ron says I love you. Was he saying it like I love you, youre a lifesaver! Or was it real?
PigWithHair
Oct 30 2005, 10:23 PM
Hermione03,
No, I don't think when Ron said "I love you, Hermione," that he was really meaning it in a serious way, although his hands were covering his face when he said it.
But definitely by then I think he had realized that he had romantic feelings for her. Actually, he was already in love with her, but didn't realize it yet. That's my take on it.
I think Ron's realization of how serious his feelings are for her is gradual.
It's obvious that Ron kept thinking about Hermione:
-he looks down the table at her furtively
-"Will Hermione be dropping by?"
-"Is Hermione really going out with McLaggen?"
And my personal favorite that had BETTER be in the film:
"Er-my-nee!"
GrintyForeverMine
Oct 31 2005, 08:23 PM
Wow! I've actually found a place on a website that actually have proper discussions about Ron/Hermione! *faints*
Ron and Hermione are just meant to be because they have so much evidence in both the books and the films, even J.K has said that they are the one HP couple that have more of a chance of getting together and with the way it ended with them:
'Ron stroking Hermione's hair'
It is too provable to NOT be true.
jelchu
Nov 1 2005, 09:34 AM
| QUOTE (PigWithHair @ Oct 29 2005, 05:49 PM) |
Decemberphoenix,
Not sure what all the fuss is about Harry/Hermione crush because I don't see it, but I guess that's for a different thread.
I've watched the 13 news clips and see some great Ron/Hermoine stuff coming our way in November! But I won't post spoilers about it. |
i've seen the clips too. though it took me ages before I decided that I want to see it. the spoiling is fun. i even had goosebumps.
and the yuleball clip is to die for. I can't believe it, the look on their faces is a give-away.
we're really up for some surprises!!!
WonWoN..
Nov 1 2005, 08:32 PM
I was furius when i saw that Ron was with Lavander......
Hermione and him have to be together !!
It'll be good .

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PigWithHair
Nov 1 2005, 11:36 PM
Well, the whole Won-Won/Lavender thing was certainly painful for Hermione (as well as some of us readers), but it was necessary. He would never have truly appreciated Hermione, nor treated her as she should be without going through a relationship that had no true emotions behind it.
His whole approach to her in the way he asks her to the Yule Ball is a clear indicator of how he would have not appreciated her without first, seeing that Hermione could end up with someone else, and second, having a relationship with one girl while wishing he was with Hermione.
Hopefully, if JKR is kind, we will all reap the benefits of The Lavender Episode by seeing Ron not only admit his real feelings to Hermione, but also appreciate her.
I'm counting on that, anyway.
muggleview
Nov 2 2005, 02:09 AM
With Ron-Lavender affair, Jo Rowling is hoping to create a shock. A reality-check shock for the readers and awakening shock for Hermione. In real life, the romance is not always following a smooth path. What happens if your designated soulmate made mistake? Is your love deep enough to forgive him when he sincerely comes back to you?
This is one of the big tests for true love.
| QUOTE (PigWithHair) |
| His whole approach to her in the way he asks her to the Yule Ball is a clear indicator of how he would have not appreciated her without first, seeing that Hermione could end up with someone else, and second, having a relationship with one girl while wishing he was with Hermione. |
Beautiful statement!
HP series is not really a comfortable reading for romance. It's different from common romance novels, which can lull us into sweet dreams, not reality. I believe Jo Rowling is using her teacher attitude to guide her students to see some aspects of love we don't normally see on TV or movies which aim for "live happily ever after" without the proven love. She also wants to show that you cannot rely on "being together for so long, serious love will come automatically". Love needs proof. In HBP, Ron and Hermione finally passed their tests in love. As with Apparation, Hermione passed in better and faster manner than Ron, but in love, fortunately, you don't need a perfect grade to move on. From then on, Hermione devotes herself to Ron and Ron won't look at other girls.
~*Herbst*~
Nov 2 2005, 03:14 AM
My heart stopped when I saw in the book the part when Ron and Lavander kissed...
that isn't an agradable part in the book...
0maga
Nov 2 2005, 04:26 PM
This running story has been going through all 6 book so far and will continue to run in the 7th it has to end sometime and if you ask me its going to be the answer that we all want they will get together!!
{Unfortunately I have the horrible feeling one of them will die}
I think Rons finally got the message he has ben so slow to realise they have something and as sone as he starts to show any intrest at all Hermione will jump on him like a ton of bricks!
PigWithHair
Nov 2 2005, 06:18 PM
Hmm...yeah, I waffle back and forth on the death thing.
I do have a worry that one of them (or both) will die. Just when they're on the brink of getting together. I REALLY hope not. I'd not be able to go back and re-read the books again knowing that was the end (same with Harry and Ginny).
But I am worried about Ron and Hermione. Both are extremely vulnerable.
The thing that does make me feel a little better (because I want to believe it) is that JKR has spent so much time on this ship over the course of all 6 books that it seems very improbable, logically, that she would do them in when she has done so much with them.
Especially since she said Ron had to have The Lavender Episode so that he would mature and become "worthy" of Hermione. Those were her words, not mine, according to an interview on Quick Quotes Quill.
Yes, I will be sad and cry most likely if anything happens to Hagrid or Neville, but I could at least re-read the books again, though I"m plugging for Neville to be the one who ends up teaching at Hogwarts (JKR said one of Harry's classmates - not Ron - would!).
But not the main trio and Ginny! Yikes!
Back to the ship thing, Ron and Hermione have had the tension thing ever since Book 1 when they hit it off so terribly on the Hogwarts Express. It's even a longer ship than Harry's own ship, which I find surprising.
So I have to surmise that Ron and Hermione's ship will represent the romantic aspect of love, as I think love will play a huge part in the ending of Book 7 and the defeat of Voldemorty.
Hermie122
Nov 2 2005, 11:37 PM
Well, I think Ron and Hermione make an awesome couple! Yah they do fight, but what couples don't? I am very excited to see how it all turns out, since Voldemort knows that Hermione and Ron are Harry's best friends. I hope that Harry can kill Voldemort before Voldemort can reach Ron and Hermione so that they can be together. It would be heartbraking to see Ron or Hermione die and I hope that they can make it alive!
muggleview
Nov 4 2005, 02:16 AM
I support the theory that Ron and Hermione (also Harry and Ginny) will survive at the end. They represent the good and weak side to defeat the bad and powerful tyrant. Any death of the main characters will not give satisfying ending which Jo Rowling tries to achieve.
RavenMist
Nov 4 2005, 04:40 PM
Oh they will survive ia m sure of it. JK Rowling said she wouldn't kill Harry's bestfriend. And i doubt she would kill Hermione since she represents her self. Plus i do hope there is something that tells what happens too the characters after the book. IE: Ron and Hermione get married or something like that.
PigWithHair
Nov 4 2005, 06:09 PM
Well, I hope you're right and I do think you are. She has spent so much time on their ship, and on their character development.
And yes, marriage later on. Hopefully! I hope she tells quite a lot about the survivors after Book 7. I'm really looking forward to that part and was so glad to read she's including an epilogue!
Do you think they will be married in the epilogue? Personally, I see them getting married fairly young.
muggleview
Nov 5 2005, 03:21 AM
Aahh, Wedding bells! I'm sure they will get married only after Voldemort is vanguished. As for the age, I think in the wizarding world, people can get married after coming of age (17 years and older). Yes, it is very similar to the Middle Ages culture, which I believe the Harry Potter wizarding world is based. Romeo and Juliet got married at 16? 15? The characters in Elizabeth Gourde's "Little White Horse", Jo Rowling's favourite, got married at 13. The book was written sometime close to 1946, so it's not that old.
What I see is Hermione gradually has prepared herself to be a Weasley Mother. She participated in preparing food for at least 6 people at every meal. She learned to knit socks, hats and soon sweaters! She has been residing within the Weasleys for 4 summers in a row. She was so at ease with the big family, that I can imagine she will not be surprised to prepare accommodation if any of the Weasleys suddenly apparated into her future home anytime.
With the possibility of Ron staying with Harry at the Dursleys in Book 7, I think Ron will learn about living in Muggleworld. Then, he is ready to build a family with Hermione and live in both worlds.
PigWithHair
Nov 5 2005, 04:18 AM
Mug,
Yeah, but Ron and Hermione are staying with Harry at the Durselys. How do you think they'll arrange that? Very curious to see that. Afterall, its not the Dursleys will offer a guest room, eh?
So will she, Ron and Harry share Harry's room? And no, I am not suggesting anything physical in this, merely accomodations. But I am very curious how this part will go.
muggleview
Nov 5 2005, 03:30 PM
If Jo Rowling decides to make Ron and Hermione stayed near Harry, I guess Ron will stay at Mundungus's place, whereas Hermione stays with Mrs. Arabella Figgs. Crookshanks will be happy to see some friends, those kneazzles that Mrs. Figgs has. But honestly I was baffled with Ron's last statement in HBP, so I'm trying to find out the ways to make it happen.
Now that Dumbledore is (presumed) dead and Harry's blood protection expires on his 17th birthday (July 31), Voldemort can kill Harry anytime. Ron's family can arrange the Order to setup a post nearby the Dursleys to protect Harry. Ron and Hermione are now old enough to be the members of the Order, so they can go as Harry's guards. Most likely Mundungus' place is chosen, since Mundungus often went away anyway for his obscure business. Mrs. Figgs can accomodate some female members.
How about Aunt Petunia? She knows more about wizarding world than she would like to admit. Feeling the danger, she may ask Uncle Vernon to temporarily move somewhere else and let the Order occupy the house.
However, Jo Rowling can still pull surprises. What do you think?
PigWithHair
Nov 7 2005, 02:15 AM
Well, I took the last few lines of HBP to mean that Ron and Hermione were both staying at the Dursleys with Harry. I don't see them being split up staying here and there.
Maybe Ron or Hermione (because they're of age and can do magic outside of school now) will conjure a couple extra beds to stuff in Harry's room or something. It should be interesting.
Or maybe they will convince the Dursleys to go on vacation and get out of the way.
Next question:
Will Ron and Hermione actually kiss in Book 7?
Amyrat151
Nov 7 2005, 02:19 AM
Hey, look at me, I'm here and I'm actually posting!

, it feels good to be back.
Okay, diving right in. I am also confindent that Ron and Hermione will get married soon after defeating Voldermort, and when I say soon, I should probaly say soonish, like a year, year and a half after. To plan the wedding and get their lives sorted out. And go on to have about 6 kids

. I personally think that Harry and Ginny will have more kids than Ron and Hermione because Harry didn't have any family when was growing up.
Living arangements. With Ron, I think that he wouldn't let the Durselys keep him from what he's been doing for 6 years, which is to continue to love and support Harry. Hermione is a gray area, she could stay with Mrs. Figg, or with the Dursleys some how. When his blood protection is gone he'll be protected by love again: Ron and Hermione.
Petunia, I can't wait for that loose end to be tied, I hope more gets explained about her, but I don't think I have to hope beacause I beileve it will happen. But she could surpise us by showing some compassion to Harry. Whatever.
muggleview
Nov 8 2005, 02:56 AM
Hello, Ellen! Glad to hear from you again.
So you think there will be six redheads from Ron and Hermione. They must be very busy, especially if they inherit and combine their parents intellectual ability (strategy from Ron and academic from Hermione). Some of them will work together with their Twin uncles and cousins in WWW shop chains.
I hope Hermione will be impressed by Ron's effort to adjust to Muggle World.
PigWithHair
Nov 8 2005, 07:51 PM
Hmm..yeah, I'd say 5 or 6 new Weasleys, including a set of twins like Fred & George just to keep Ron going.
Umm..questiion up for discussion:
Will Ron make the first move to bring he and Hermione together? Or will Hermione be the one to initiate things?
Amyrat151
Nov 9 2005, 01:51 AM
I think that it has already started. maybe I've read one to many a fan fiction, but I've had this thought in my head since I closed the book. When Lavender had shouted her horse at Ron and ended it, I think Ron and Hermione may have reached an agreement (off page, but there are signs of it) to let things happen. I think it's possiable that they shared a kiss before the closing of HBP in the days after Dumbledore's death. I'm not going to bet money on it or anything, but I think it's defently possiable.
Thank you Muggy

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muggleview
Nov 9 2005, 02:39 AM
Replying PigWithHair: I believe Ron will make the move. Actually, he has been collecting his courage since Hermione decided to invite her to Slughorn. Somehow he was not yet there because he was deviated by Quidditch tension and by jealousy. At the end of HBP, he was not stiff anymore receiving Hermione's hug. He could stroke her hair as a mature person, giving her comfort and shoulder to cry on.
| QUOTE (Amyrat151) |
| I think it's possiable that they shared a kiss before the closing of HBP in the days after Dumbledore's death. |
Yaayy! I'm not alone in trouble (dancing and tumbling).
I had experiences in following pregnancy and giving birth, so I do have great respects to mothers. I hope Hermione will give birth twice to a triplets, instead of 6 times. Hermione wouldn't have problems in making clothes for them. She has been practicing making elves clothings in OOP. Weasley sweaters with matching socks and hats. (On side note: In Harry/Ginny thread, I cited Prof Trelawney predicting Harry's 12 children. Poor Ginny, eh? Well, Mrs. Weasley will take care 7 as she was used to, and Ginny can concentrate on the 5 youngest ones). Gee, I am talking about babies? I guess I'm ready to be a father
gryffin_hauz_88
Nov 9 2005, 09:48 AM
Making the first move? Who will? hmmm... I think this will be the first time I'll disagree with Muggy.

I think it will be Hermione. Because I think she's sick and tired of Ron's being so shy and thick. And after what happened to Ron, being engaged in a relationship with Lavender, Hermione might think that Ron might do the same step again. And she will not allow it. This is really the right time to mark her territory, no matter what happens. Though there's a war, it will not be a much hindrance.
I just had an argument with a friend that Ron and Hermione will not make it because of the war, they will not have enough time. I disagree because the war, as what we already said in our previous posts, this will be the reason to a closer bonding. They will defend each other, plan together, protect Harry and their love ones, protect each other...
Oh my... the wedding day. It will be nice if there's a double wedding but it will be great if they'll have a separate one.
Anyway, it's nice to be back!
PigWithHair
Nov 9 2005, 04:26 PM
| QUOTE (gryffin_hauz_88 @ Nov 9 2005, 02:55 AM) |
Making the first move? Who will? hmmm... I think this will be the first time I'll disagree with Muggy. I think it will be Hermione. Because I think she's sick and tired of Ron's being so shy and thick. And after what happened to Ron, being engaged in a relationship with Lavender, Hermione might think that Ron might do the same step again. |
First of all, I have a question.
Gryffin_haus_88,
I noticed you said Ron was "engaged" in a relationship with Lavender.
I had noticed, in one of the interviews I've heard online recently that the question had been put to Dan or Rupert (can't recall) if they were "engaged," and I thought engaged? At 16 or 17?
But your comment in the above post could clear this up for me. Here in the US, when you mention someone being "engaged" it means they are engaged to be married, and we really don't use "engaged" to mean you're in any other type of relationship.
But it sounds like in Britain, you could be "engaged" in a relationship, but it just means you're going out with someone. Do I have that right? Or am I wrong? Just trying to clear that up in my mind.
Okay...back to studio....
Well, I'm hoping Ron will make the first move and actually I do agree with Mug here and I think he will. He has been building up courage. It is obvious he's acknowledged his feelings for her already, to some extent at least, and I think in Book 7 we will see a lot more of Ron being tested and showing his Gryffindor courage.
Yeah, I think he will make the first move and Hermione will be surprised, thinking she may have to do it.
She is definitely getting weary of Ron's self doubts and second-guessing himself. She might get jealous if he shows interest in anyone else, but I don't think he will. He learned through the Lavender experience what it is he really wants (read: who - Hermione!).
Mug,
You hope WHAT??!
Two sets of triplets? (wonky faints deadaway)
Babies are a blessing, but three at a time is very harrowing for anyone. I thought I was really pushing the leather wanting them to have twins! Yikes!
And giving birth to triplets would be no picnic, either. No, I have to disagree with you there. Mine came one at a time and that's been enough for me. Hmm...(scratches head) maybe I'll retract that twin thing....
Soapgirltamfan
Nov 9 2005, 06:45 PM
I love Hermione & Ron even though he's a brat & asked fleur instead of Hermione out to the yule ball to the dance & asked her just when everyone said no....
He's funny she's smart just like boy meets world Tapanga & Cory she was a school girl had everything better then Cory & then they fell inlove & got married
Amyrat151
Nov 10 2005, 01:46 AM
I loved Boy Meet World, that show is so underated. But I've seen that parell between the three of them and the three of them. Sean is so messed up, like Harry

. Okay, I'm done.
But am the the only one who thinks that Ron and Hermione's relationship has already started. And plus we've got nothing to worry about anymore people, just sit back and let the shipping happiness wash over you. It makes for a nice sheild when you read someone's disagreable views, that's what I do.
I started to write a fic, Ron and Hermione had 7 kids, I liked all the names I gave them.
gryffin_hauz_88
Nov 10 2005, 11:31 AM
PigWithHair,
Sorry if I make you a bit confused.

What I mean of being
engaged is not the engagement, getting ready for a marriage. What I mean in
being engage with a relationship is being locked in a relationship, not really marrying...

. Just being attached with something.
I'm really hoping that Ron's courage will not eat him.

. I believe in him because Ron is a Gryffindor. Though Gryffindor courage is used mostly on battles, Ron is also in a battle. Battle against the men surrounding Hermione and battle against himself to stop waiting for another year to tell what he feels for Hermione.
PigWithHair
Nov 10 2005, 04:53 PM
Well, Ron is pretty much at battle against himself a lot. As Harry noticed when Ron played Quidditch, he can do anything except when he physcs himself out of it.
He second guesses himself waay too much. Fred and George seem to make this worse with their constant belittling, but that's older brothers (I know that story).
I'm really anxious to see how involved with the search for Horcruxes and Voldy, JKR has Ron and Hermione in this last installment. It sounded, from the ending of Book 7, that they are very involved in it, much more like they were in Books 1 and 2. And, I think she had referred to Book 7 harkening back to the first two books in an interview...somewhere.
Of course, in Book 1 Ron proved himself to be the knight and I think we'll see that again (though not literally on a chessboard) in Book 7. Since Hermione figured out the potions part of getting to the Stone in Book 1, will she be the one to figure out Snape's motives in Book 7? Afterall, she was the one to remind Harry that Dumbledore had trusted Snape.
Can't wait.
Gryffin_hauz_88,
I think you've touched on something here. I think that's why I like Ron's character so much. He does phsyc himself out so much. He's so brave at some things, but is absolutely ridiculous at others. He can be so funny, and yet, as Luna noted, so unkind at the same time. Completely shoots from the hip without thinking about what's coming out of his mouth.
Hmm...sounds like someone I know. Better post this before he sees what I'm typing...
Amyrat151
Nov 10 2005, 10:20 PM
I love Ron's character as well, it seems that for all he does, he's still grossly misunderstod by lots of fans, and yes that includes Ron/Hermione shippers. But I still think the most misunderstod is Hermione, and maybe Snape, depending on how you're agrueing his case.
I'm reading PoA right now, which I think is the eastest book for me to read, and I love the way Ron is with Harry, and how Harry is with Ron. I think that it was somewhere with in that year that Harry began to really love Ron and then Hermione. I love that Ron pushes Harry out of the way in fornt of the Womping Willow.
You know, I agree with Muggy when he said it that when Ron found Sirius standing over his bed with a knife, and got everyone freaked out about that is when Hermione realised that she liked Ron in a completely differnt way then Harry. Ron realised when he saw he standing in the Entrance Hall before the Yule Ball. I love that shot of her moving down the steps, the first time I saw it I thought in my head "Did my heart love till now? For swearist sight, I have never seen true beauty till this night." "That birds would sing and think it was not night." Okay I'm done with my Shakespear out pour.
PigWithHair
Nov 11 2005, 03:48 AM
Um..am I too addicted to this thread?
Answer: yes.
I don't know if Ron is misunderstood. Certainly everyone has a different take on this character, just as with all the others, but if some don't like Ron I can't say he is misunderstood. Some people just don't like him, they prefer some other character.
From the first book, Ron was my favorite, followed by Hermione.
Harry is a bit of a harder character for me to read. His personality isn't right out in the open like the other two.
I'm just finishing re-reading Goblet with my son, and I'm re-reading Phoenix on my own. Phoenix is the hardest for me to get through (less Ron and Hermy moments). Azkaban has lots of great Ron/Hermy stuff in it though of course they're fighting like crazy.
Yeah, I'd have to agree that it was Book 3 where Hermione realized her feelings toward Ron were different. And I'd also agree that Ron didn't have a clue until the Yule Ball.
Though there are lots of cuts in the film (which is understandable, I think) I was overjoyed that they retained the best bits of the Yule Brawl. Great stuff and very important for Ron and Hermione's characters.
I think OoftP is going to be even more interesting to see how they adapt it into film. It's even harder in some respects than Goblet. It is certainly darker than Goblet. There are less Ron/Hermy moments, other than the regular tension that has permiated their relationship since the beginning, but they may play up what there is or add to it like they did in the Azkaban film (hand holding bit).
Wish they'd release the full deleted scenes from Azkaban. In interviews Emma said there were more Ron/Herm hugs that were deleted. Maybe those will come out in the full box DVD set after the movies are all made, or for the 10th anniversary or something like that.
ronxdraco
Nov 12 2005, 12:51 AM
hey.....I'm a supporter of the r/hr ship but it's not every thing......I *DO* prefer it over hr/d or hr/h....but I don't *HATE* those ships........ You people say that those are *WRONG* ships. They aren't. Herm/HArry is *VERY* popular, as is herm/Draco(a *VERY* cut couple by the way)My BFFL Mya thinks Hr/D but I *USED* to think that ship was gross and now I like it, alot. but what ever....Ron and Hermione forever!!!!!!!!
muggleview
Nov 12 2005, 01:04 AM
Well, there is a special thread about Ron's character in Post Book 6 Section. We can discuss Ron over there.
Book 3 (POA) definitely can be the beginning of the Ron/Hermione romance. Starting with ice-cream for two in Diagon Alley, buying cat with fur color matching Ron's hair, enjoying Hogsmeade without Harry. Those are the memorable moments in Hermione's initial approach to Ron. I love to read the parts. However, Jo Rowling apparently is adamant to make the romance an enigma, so in either the book or the movie, she put on a break to the storyline by sending Ron to the hospital and letting Hermione go into adventure with Harry. It's like playing kite, pull and let loose a bit. That's a good trick to keep the readers, especially those who see R/Hr, on the edge of their stools book after book till the end.
Sadly, the shipping war has made some readers dislike Ron. I support the view that Ron is the actual glue to the trio. Harry needed Hermione occassionally for advice, but he would rather with Ron alone all the time. Since the first time they met, Hermione stuck with Harry just because Harry was with Ron and she can utilize her ability to help this troubled boy. Thus, once Ron was at odd with Hermione, Harry's interaction with Hermione was very minimal. When Ron was at odd with Harry, Harry was forced to be with Hermione more, but he was not happy about it. It was Ron who took initiative to pick up Harry from Dursleys, bring him to the Burrow and at the end of HBP to accompany him in her quest for Horcruxes. Hermione started to behave as a real girlfriend of Ron by the end of HBP, ready to follow Ron wherever he goes.
Amyrat151
Nov 12 2005, 04:49 AM
I think Ron is the heart part of the group, but they all act as glue. I think Hermione was interested in Harry as well as Ron and began to love Harry dearly as a friend, if she didn't hang around Harry so much she wouldn't of had the chance to get to know Ron better and vise a versa. And Harry was drawn to Ron and Ron to Harry for reason's I have posted on already. Harry saw Hermione for her brillance and respect that, Hermione saw his bravey, "there are more imporant things..." And Ron needed Hermione to help him...so on ans so forth.
I was thinking the other day about the situtions that lead to the Ron/Lavender thing. It seems strange that if only Hermione was more open about the Krum thing in the first place it might not of happened, but if Hermione opened that can of worms Ron would no doubt be very mad and jealous.
muggleview
Nov 12 2005, 03:52 PM
That's the dynamic of romance. Hermione thought she knew Ron well enough to decide what to tell him or not. I also read an opinion that Hermione kissed Krum during her fury after having "fraternizing with the enemy" fight with Ron. Before that, Hermione sat in the Champion Table with Harry, who overheard some of her conversation with Krum. At that time, it was just a polite exchange of information, including spelling of Hermione's name. After the fight with Ron, Hermione left in a rage. Krum looked for her with drinks. Some students, including Fleur, started to set themselves apart and snog. Romance was in the air. Viktor and Hermione would most likely kiss during this time, and could be a good-night kiss in the hall in full presence of many students including Harry and Ginny, before Hermione left for her dorm. Along the way, she shot a cold look at Ron, who took it as an invitation to continue their fight. Hermione went into the common room. Ron followed a few seconds after. Harry was detained a while by Cedric with regards to the egg. Right after Harry finally caught up with Ron, Hermione said the "not as a last resort" statement.
For Hermione, the kiss was a revenge to Ron's laughing at her as an undateable girl and his cluelessness about her feeling.
Hermione probably thought Ron was there to watch her, but unfortunately somehow he was not. Harry was there, but he was too happy to be in speaking term with Ron to make him upset by telling him about it. Ginny realized much later than Ron actually didn't see it and told Ron unnecessarily during her outpouring of anger in HBP.
Ron, having low-confidence so far, decided to proof that he could have been with any girls he wants. Silly, childish but alas realistic in our world.
Now (at least in Jo Rowling's mind) they are on equal footing. Hermione was convinced that she cannot live without Ron. Everytime Ron was almost dead, Hermione was so upset. She has experienced a short moment with one of the most desirable men in the wizarding world, Viktor Krum, and found nothing of it compared to her feeling to Ron.
Ron who was often second-guessing himself in his own capability, already convinced that he is good enough to get girls, but the one he really wants to be is Hermione.
Inside, both of them know they want each other. They only need to make the readers to see the visible evidence.
PigWithHair
Nov 13 2005, 02:46 AM
Yes, I would say it's a very good bet that Hermione didn't kiss Krum until after the "fraternising with the enemy" crap Ron threw at her. I doubt she initiated it, but as hurt and angry as she was from Ron's comments, she was probably more accepting of it.
So, in a way, Ron caused what he most dreaded: that Hermione kissed Krum. Smooth, Ron.
Was her snog with Krum revenge? Hmm...I think it was much more that Krum wanted her and made her feel special when Ron had just hurt her so badly.
Now the whole bird thing in Book 6 - revenge big time.
And yes, Ron's insecurities were the root of his problems during the Yule Ball. After learning that Hermione had kissed Krum, he didn't feel like she'd ever go for him after kissing World Famous Krum (big mistake Ron!) and well, Lavender was making herself available to Ron, so...
Haunted Forever
Nov 14 2005, 10:12 PM
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| buying cat with fur color matching Ron's hair |
I NEVER noticed this. But it's true, the romance probably started in the beginning of book 3, without many of us noticing. In the movie, they put more obvious romance: In movie 2, when Hermione is un-pertified, Ron and Hermione don't know how to greet each other, both being awkward.And in movie 3, the 'holding-hands' scene {which I LOVE ^__^}, both look at each other kind of nervously, if that's the word.)
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| enjoying Hogsmeade without Harry |
I've always wondered what happens between Ron and Hermione when Harry isnt there. Since the books are more about Harry, we don't know what goes on between Hermione and Ron when Harry isnt there, so we have to take that factor in too, when we think of the jealously of Ron when Hermione is with Krum, and the jealously of Hermione when Ron is with Lavender, I hate these parts, when they snog. I just feel like hitting Lavender...but it's also good, because it really shows how deeply Hermione cares about Ron.
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Was her snog with Krum revenge? Hmm...I think it was much more that Krum wanted her and made her feel special when Ron had just hurt her so badly. |
I think it was probably both. That Ron had hurt her, and the fact that Krum seemed to like her.
We all know who she really wanted to kiss. ^__^
Aphrodite
Nov 14 2005, 10:35 PM
Hiya Haunted Forever, and welcome to the VTM forums!
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Haunted Forever
Nov 14 2005, 11:31 PM
Thanks for your help. ^__^ How is my siggy now? Better?
I bet when Hermione was kissing Krum, she was visualizing it to be Ron.
She was just letting off steam. Ron should just be lucky that she didn't hit him after comment about her being an 'undateable girl' and the 'fratizing-enemy' comments. Sorry I'm really bad at spelling.
....I never noticed the edit button. Now I know how to use it. ^___^
Rip
Nov 15 2005, 02:01 PM
^^ Lots of little things that are just so cute to pick out! Lol!
But whats great, is that R/Hr doesn't need all these little things! [Unlike a certain H/Hr... lol] Because its so obvious that they are meant for eachother.
Hello.. they were holding eachother at the end of book six... they were practically a couple already!
*waves* I'm new by the way, but a HUGE R/Hr shipper! *envies Emma* ^^ so hello!
-Steph, aka Rip