Hi, I'm new to the forum, and I'm sure somebody else has asked this question so forgive me if this has already been brought up, but what is this? I noticed it when browsing through the icons.



Did I miss something? Or is this Photoshoped?

Yes, someone already did ask that question. Why does this keep coming up?

It's photoshopped. There are a couplel other avatars out there where they are kissing and those are photo shopped as well. Must be pretty weird to be a celebrity and kiss someone you never kissed before, eh?

Yeah, I suppose it is. Very well edited, if I say so myself. But anyways, yes...I guess that Hermione would want to avoid an embaressing situation in front of Ron. But wouldn't it make sense if she wanted Ronto feel guilty, so she cried in front of him, and then blaming him for everything? I dunno...just a thought.

Yes, Hermione can be very vengeful. She seems like the type who wants revenge but plots it secretly, or is very open about it. For instance, in HBP, when she's talking to Parvati, she says that she's going with McLaggen and such. I guess it was a way for Ron to return her jealousy.

Well, of course, the whole reason Hermione did the McLaggen thing was so that Ron would find out and be annoyed. That's a great part, when she's telling Parvati about going out with him.

Hermione does have a vengeful thread in her, without doubt, however, it only comes out when someone else has attacked her first. She doesn't go out on the offense. In fact, she sometimes gives others too much of a second chance. Look at how she tries to talk to Lupin-the-werewolf.

Other than Ron, the only other case where Hermione was venegeful was with Rita Skeeter, who clearly did need to change her ways. Hermione didn't just strike back, but she made sure Rita couldn't hurt Harry or anyone else again by publishing her lies.

Hey everyone. I recently discovered that I have WMM on my computer, so thus I made a slideshow/video of R/Hr. I hope that you all enjoy it. Thank you and have a great day!

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0MV6IJ9...ML25XKGPQWMBW78

Thank you very much for answering my question. I really do appreciate it. It looks very real, though, doesn't it?

I think Hermione was driven more by hurt than revenge. She had felt that she had a chance with Ron, and him (probably just being a guy) going out with somebody else hurt her. She probably just tried to fill that hurt and throw a little of it in Ron's face at the same time.

Yet in the last chapter of the book, when Ron comforts her at Dumbledore's funeral, I think she felt angry with herself (though it wasn't mentioned). Here she had tried to fill a void she had no say in filling, and now she was realizing it through Dumbledore's death. Perhaps she even thought to herself "Life is too short. I can't chase after anybody esle." This is strictly my opinion though and was never written or clearly implied in the book.

If Hermione was angry at herself at Dumbledore's funeral, the only thing I can think of her being angry at herself for was because she felt she'd botched things by letting Snape go and not realizing he'd stunned Flitwick.

Though as Lupin said, Snape would have killed/stunned her, too.

SIDE NOTE: I think its significant that Snape did not kill Flitwick, but merely stunned him.

Okay, onward...I really don't think she was angry at herself at the funeral though. She seemed to filled with grief over Dumbledore for anything else.

His death will pull Ron and Hermione even closer. They both changed a lot during HBP, Ron did a lot of maturing and Hermione did some.

I'm really hoping what I've been reading about the first chapter of Book 7 is accurate and that the first chapter will start right off with the train ride back to King's Cross after the funeral.

Beekyk2001, that's an awesome slideshow. I am excited that you include a movieclip in which I believe the director Cuaron arranged to show R/Hr and H/G in one scene (on the minute count from 0:50 on). I am sure you can't wait to use the materials from GOF when the DVD comes out!

I can testify that what Jo Rowling wrote about Hermione's action is very close to reality (as far as I witnessed). Hermione showed a realistic behaviour of a girl in love (in particular the one close to me), which is unrealistic and illogical. She lost her cool and organized mind when it comes to "boys". Remember that in GOF books, she wailed when Ron and Harry made up. In the movie she didn't cry, but was totally confused.
In HBP, she was confused why Ron would choose Lavender over her. The bird attack was the result of anger. McLaggen was the revenge. After Ron came back to her, Hermione changed her behaviour: she became more attentive to him, more caring. Apparently she somehow learned that it is the best way to keep her man. Instead of belittling Ron, she gently held his hand in hers to move the wand from making snow. The best thing is she has learned to forgive him. As a boy, I would like to see Ron getting punished more, but Jo is generally more forgiving to Ron than Hermione. Ron got off rather easily. His heavy punishment was in form of a near-death experience which Ron didn't seem to suffer a lot (other than missing the Quidditch game with Luna's commentary). I agree that you gals may see this an unfair treatment. Maybe Jo wanted to make up for the first movies where Ron was unfairly portrayed as an incompetent sidekick of Harry.

Perhaps I should write this in the next posting, but I'm dying to share it now. A friend of mine was a fanatic moviegoer, but not an avid reader. After watching GOF movie, he started to pick up the OOP. The comment he made after the first 10 chapters or so: Does Ron and Hermione live together after GOF? Apparently he noticed Ron and Hermione practically lived under the same roof for months, and Harry's presence didn't seem to change anything (so much for Hermione missing Harry "so much" as some wished). You see that he's completely brainwashed by Hollywood's way of life , and he didn't mind to admit it.

I'm looking forward to checking out the slideshow...can't run any media player as computer is really screwed up, but hope to soon.

Muggy,

I agree. I get a little irritated when some posters think it is out of character for Hermione to lose it so bad that she sics the birds on Ron, but really, JKR's talent is in writing characters that are not one-dimensional.

Yes, Hermione's brilliant, but she's a girl, she's a teenager and she's in love with someone who is treating her rather badly in Books 4 and 6. She tries to walk out of the room with her head held high, and she was hoping to make a dignified exit, but in the end, she couldn't hold back.

Her hurt and her fury took over and she attacked Ron. He really had acted like a jerk as much as I love the character, so I can't say I blame her even though she could have done something not so childish.

Even we adults well out of our teenage years can't say we always act mature when it comes to emotions and affairs of the heart, eh?

Was she confused why Ron chose Lavender over her? I think she had been confused before that, by Ron's treatment of her after she had asked him to Slug Club. She had no idea why he was remote and sneering towards her.

The next thing she knows he's off snogging Lavender and they are a couple. Knowing Hermione (and being a girl) I'd have to say she was far more hurt than confused. It may be that knowing Ron could be a coward when it comes to personal relationships, that Hermione thought he had no idea how to react to her asking him out. She probably figured he didn't want to go afterall and instead of saying so became cold and sneering.

Of course, that wasn't what was really going on with Ron at all, but Hermione had no way of knowing what he was really upset about. And Harry didn't help at all.

Actually, looking at Ron's actions from Hermione's point of view, Ron comes out in a far worse light, than the from the reader's perspective. You can see why she was so angry as to sic the birds on him. First, he was cold and sneering towards her without her knowing why - so, being Hermione, she'd have to guess at it and obviously would have come to the wrong conclusion because she'd never suspect he was upset about something from two years previous - and then he was off with Lavender.

Bad indeed.

You can also see why no way in hell was she going to let Ron get away with acting like nothing was wrong after "Frosty Christmas."

Also, I tend to guess that Ron never asked Lavender to be his girlfriend. Knowing Ron's character, after they'd snogged a few times, Lavender most likely assumed them to be together (fairly reasonable at that age) and Ron went along with it at first and then found himself in a situation he didn't know how to extract himself from.


Now, I have to disagree with you.

Yes, Hermione was much softer and more attentive to Ron after his poisoning. Was it to "hold onto her man?" Not at all.

Hermione was very glad, obviously, that Ron was no longer really interested in Lavender, but she was far from assuming that Ron was her man.

Even given the ending of Book 6, the funeral scene, I am quite sure Hermione will not make the first move towards Ron again. She stuck her neck out before and looked what happened. No way do I think she'll assume anything with Ron.

It is up to him in Book 7 to not only make the first move, but make it clear to Hermione, IN WORDS, what his feelings are and what he wants.

I have to side with PigWithHair (what's your real name?) about the poisoning. I think both Ron and Hermione realized just how precious their time is, exspeaically at that moment it time, because bad things are coming, and they're aware of that. Ron knew his relationship with Lavender, which was his petty revenge on Hermione, had reached it's experation date, because they had no more time to do things like that. Hermione knew that he knew this, and I think that off-page in the hospital he told her he'd break up with Lavender.
Ron's posioning was a wake-up call for the readers as well as the characters.
Becky, nice slide show.

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Yay!This is something that rocks!Hermy and Ron!Awesome!

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That's kinda werid if I'm being honest.
One thing I was thinking about before, it would be to easy if Harry and Hermione got together, because they didn't have the long painful jonery to find out that they have feelings for eachother, and that they actaully do belong together. It reminds me so much of this quote from the Mexican, "When to people love eachother, honest to God, all the way, love eachother, but they just can't get it together, how do you know when enough is enough." The answer is of course "never."

Well, we know that in the H/Hr venom thread, that neither Harry nor Hermione actually tries to find out each other's feeling. They are both happy just to be friends. Ron and Hermione is being developed with an ardeous task to understand each other, overcoming different family background, world and personality (A vs. .That makes the relationship very interesting to follow. We see the pain of Ron, being an easy going wizard, to reach for the muggleborn witch. And we follow the heartbreak of Hermione waiting for her man to grow up.

Beautiful exposition, PigWithHair. I found no flaw in that posting.
Instead of forcing her will, Hermione decides to give space for Ron to make his decision and eventually bold move. It's not only a sign of Hermione's own maturity, but also a sign of growing respect to Ron. According to Jo Rowling's theory, boys need more time and space to grow than girls, even an older boy like Lupin. Hermione finally realizes this, and she also saw the immediate result. Ron is getting more decisive in his move. As one careful reader pointed out elsewhere, Ron didn't show his usual doubt in doing his task as the Gryffindor keeper in the Final Quidditch game. The fact that he hoisted the cup in the room may hint that in the absence of Harry, Ron may have taken over the Captain position, although Katie Bell is more senior, or as in OOP has significantly contributed to the win. No comment was made on Ginny's or other team members achievement.
Thus, by giving Ron a space, Hermione actually gains a better Ron, which has been keeping her in his heart even at the point of death ("Er-my-nee..."). Hence, she can know trust Ron to give her support whenever she is down (a shoulder to cry on), as in Dumbledore's funeral.
She can also trust Ron to speak on her behalf as Ron pledges their loyalty once more to Harry. With regards to the future, Ron and Hermione may not have hard evidence, but they have solid confidence to each other. It's based on faith, not on visible acts. Now they have unspoken understanding between them (just like Harry and Ginny) and ready to use this bond to face the dark time ahead in the war against Voldemort.

Muggy,

Thank you for your compliment.

I have to ask though, what sort of "unspoken arrangement" do you think Ron and Hermione have?

Do you mean that they have an unspoken agreement to have confidence in each other and in their friendship and thus Ron spoke for both of them because they both know they will be together to support Harry no matter what?

If that was your meaning, then I heartily agree.

I have to say that I don't think they have any sort of unspoken romantic thing between them yet, though they are both in love with each other. But I think in the early parts of Book 7, we will see Ronald take care of that.

I did just read a great fan fiction written from Ron's point of view which completely contradicts the theory I just gave. It's on fanfiction.net by JoJo4. The name of the fic is "Ron Weasley's Heart on His Sleeve."

If you get the chance, I highly recommend it. It is the last few chapters of HBP from Ron's perspective and, though I don't agree that they had kissed yet, it is very well done.

Let me know what you think if you check it out.

Pig

PigWithHair, that's exactly what I mean. Same as you, I don't think Ron and Hermione made an arrangement for romance. The unspoken understanding already started at the end of OOP, when they spoke on behalf of each other in their farewell to Harry. Then in HBP, they were more of the same mind against Harry's idea about Malfoy. Thus, as a result of their experiments (called "bickering") they have better insight on each other's mind without speaking. Unfortunately, the rage of jealousy blinds them both. The good news is their unconscious love can overcome this and once they befriend again, they automatically move up to the next step without even showing physical affection in public.
We have argued about this before. I still guess that they may have shared romantic moments behind Harry's and our back after the breakup with Lavender. Of course I would be glad to see their first kiss, but we don't even see Harry's nor Hermione's first kiss. So I don't think Jo Rowling will bother much to show us their first. Looking into their characters, they may not show their kisses in public, just to make a contrast to Ron-Lavender affair. Yet my highest hope is to see their most significant kiss: when they exchange vows, perhaps in the movie?

muggleview, I definitely agree on the point that you made and JK's theory that boys need more time and space to mature.

In Ron's case, it's just taking time and a growing maturity level in order for him to really see that "The one" has been standing right in front of him all this time.

Muggy,

I think you're right about seeing more in the films. Of course, that will depend on who the director is for HBP and Movie 7, but I do think the films will show more of Ron and Hermione together (and alone) than the books will.

Even in movie 4, they interesting changed the fight after the Yule Ball so that Harry wasn't a witness to their argument until the end when Ron says "Oh, Harry!"

Up until that point, Harry had missed the last argument when they walk out of the Great Hall and she throws the "not as a last resort" bomb at Ron.

Great stuff.

Ah well. Things to look forward to in the future.

Question of the day:

What will the epilogue chapter in Book 7 show us as far as time line? You, Mug, and I have discussed Ron & Hermione's possible marriage before, but will JKR show us 10 years old so we can see children and occupations for Ron, Harry, Ginny and Hermione? Or only the following year?
What do you think?

Oh, and one more thing. What do you think they will do for occupations?

I do see Harry as an Auror, especially after some great quotes I read yesturday. Ron wanted to be an Auror, but quotes I have found recently suggest he may go into Healing.

Your thoughts?

Even more difficult to see when he is with "the one" almost everyday in the past years. We also need to remember that Ron has a lot more to catch up to get to Hermione than other girls. He has to make sure their personalities really match (hence the bickering), their background worlds match (muggle studies), and they can admit their feeling openly without worrying about Harry. I think by HBP, we see the bickering subdues, as both of them already know much more about their personalities and basically leading them to have one mind in front of Harry, instead of 2 as prior to OOP. Hermione has committed more to the wizarding world, so Ron doesn't have to worry about taking Muggle Studies. She could've chosen Harry who has stayed in muggleworld, but her heart is set for Ron, so she took a bold decision: progressively from book to book, she stayed longer and longer with Ron and his family than with her own parents. Now the last part is the reason why they cannot come in the open until Harry vanguishes Voldemort and come back to Ginny. If they hook up, Harry will be left alone. Actually Harry already tasted what to come in the beginning (12GP) and the end (hospital) of OOP. During herbology in HBP, he questioned about it again. However at the end of HBP, Ron decissively pledge his and Hermione's loyalty to accompany Harry in his quest to destroy Voldemort. Therefore, it's logical that Ron and Hermione will not show Harry on what level their relationship is, until Harry is freed from his prophesied task.

Well, that was well said, and as much as I really want to see more of them as a couple, you're most probably right.

In writing terms, it does make the most sense, and JKR will probably pepper little Ron and Hermione moments thorughout, but yes, probably nothing definitive until its All Over.

Well, there's always fanfiction, and I'm throwing myself into that heavily until Book 7 comes out - a long time from now.

PigWithHair, sorry I must have missed your previous post.
The question about the future: I think Hermione will pursue social causes in the wizarding world, while Ron may go for healing as you said. As much as Ron wanted to be an Auror, he wants to have a stable and sufficient life, so Healing will be a good choice. That's my personal opinion. Regardless, I can see the repeat of Weasley family scenes in their homes. Hermione may not want to have many children, but she definitely will not stop with one, knowing how unpleasant it is to be a sole child. Thus, again a bossy Weasley mother with a timid Weasley father and a bunch of red-haired, freckled, talented children (just like their uncles and aunt).
Regarding the epilogue, my greatest fear is it will be an open ending. I am pretty much hoping it will cover the first few years after the war, but to relate to current society, Jo may throw a hint or two that not all relationships will last long. Well, I hope it's just my nightmare. To make a fiction complete, Jo promised to tie all the loose knots, so we may see some closure and hopefully a great happy happy one.

I guessed Healing because Ron said...

"Well, I don't fancy Healing...It says here you need at least an E at N.E.W.T level in Potions, Herbology, Transfiguration, Charms and DADA. I mean...blimey...Don't ask for much, do they?"

My guess is that something happens to Hermione which puts her in St. Mungo's and Ron decides to buckle down and accomplish what he needs to do to be a Healer, plus he'd have a good bed side manner.

And yes, I agree, he'll want something where he's making some steady money. Ron is sick of being poor.

For Hermione, I'm thinking Muggle Relations...

"She was poring over a bright pink and orange leaflet that was headed So You Think You'd Like to Work in Muggle Relations? "You don't seem to need many qualifications to liaise with muggles...all they want is an O.W.L. in Muggle Studies...'Much more important is your enthusiasm, patience and a good sense of fun.'"

"You'd need more than a good sense of fun to liaise with my uncle," said Harry darkly. "Good sense of when to duck, more like..."

So, like many couples do, I think Ron and Hermione will sort of switch places. He'll become more studious and end up a Healer, which Hermione herself said was "a very responsible job."

And she will go into muggle relations where she doesn't need her 11 O.W.L.s and all the N.E.W.T.S. she'll probably get. It would do her good to work where she just needed a "good sense of fun."

So, that is the basis of my predictions.

I do think they'll have several children. Five maybe. In the beginning, I dont' think Ron would want so many, but...

PigWithHair, I must say that is very, very funny, if not intended

I'm a long-long-long-time lurker of topics such as these and others, and I just had one a these feeling, you know, where you just wanna start writing? Ok, I'm gonna slide back on topic now. One thing's just really buggin me.

Well, maybe this is a little off-topic (because everybody's talking about the books) but I just wanted to say that I CRIEEDDD in the end of the Yule Ball, with Ron and Hermione's discussion.

Congratulations to Emma and Rupert who did a great job there! And of course Daniel who's face was priceless when Hermione told them "off to bed you two!!" heehee...

Well, I am a little weird because I love ALL the scenes in which Ron and Hermione are togheter, even if they're just looking at Harry, or whatever it is that they always do in the movies.
-I actually loved that "I'm not your owl!" scene because they looked very close togheter. (I remember someone mentioning that before, just can't remember who it was...)

Well, and for the books, I can't believe we will only see them togheter in one book (IF they do).... well...bye y'all !

Hello people *waves*

I'm new in a here and a friend of mine was like "Shif you should check Veritaserum forum" lol so yay here I am!

About the yule ball scene (I did not see the movie yet) BUT my friend recorded me a clip from Ron and Hermione's fight, and I swear my heart broke when i heard Hermione's crying

I mean, Ron was so cold in the fight lol

omg! I saw a clip of the owl scene lol and I went mad when they were whispering, is that normal?

Hi all and welcome to the first-timers.
Lumos Maxima, I agree with you. The more I reread the books, the possibility of H/Hr is getting less and less. It will not be easy to transform friendship into romantic relationship, especially if you never try. Ron and Hermione tried very hard and it took them so long before they finally are comfortable to get together. That's only because both of them refused to be just friends and always tried to do things outside peaceful friendship.

Maki!_Proud_R/Hr and Shifaa, the Yule Ball fighting scene is indeed well made. That single scene has changed the view of many friends of mine who strictly moviegoers. Now they think it's sweet that R/Hr happens, because Harry will get more girls anyway. A lot of the scenes between R/Hr in the film have definitely something unusual: the distance between Ron and Hermione is getting shorter and shorter. Looking back to PoA "do you want to come closer?" or even before, now R/Hr has more close contacts than ever. That steady build-up is equivalent to the progressive literary hints in the books. After watching the films up to now, I realize how the two different media (books and movies) now can blend nicely. As in the books, Harry and Hermione are good friends all the time, close classmate, caring for each other. Nothing more, nothing further. Ron and Hermione started the relationship awkwardly and steadily moved closer and closer not just as friends, but more than that. I love how the premature romantic revelation of R/Hr in PoA (in comparison to the books), for instance the trip to Hogsmeade, is followed nicely to several scenes leading to Yule Ball fight. After this, if the OOP movie shows that Ron and Hermione stay together for 1 month without Harry in 12GP, few people will be confused. If HBP showed how they both try to make the other jealous, it will be another interesting up-and-down in a relationship. The hope is they will do something significant both in book 7 and movie 7. Come'on we want to see some action.

Hello to everyone new to the forum here!

I typically try to steer clear of the H/Hr v. R/Hr. topic, however, today on another board I just couldn't hold back anymore and here it is again.

In the books, Hermione encourages Harry and Cho's relationship. She grabs Ron's arm to get him away so Harry and Cho can talk. She's hardly jealous of their relationship.

She does the same thing with Ginny. She gives Ginny advice - good advice, as it turns out, even Harry says so in HBP - to get out and date other guys so she'll be comfortable around Harry and more herself.

Again, no jealousy there.

For Harry's part, he's a bit uncertain of Ron and Hermione dating because it might ruin their friendship. No jealous anger there. No angst. No sexual tension because Hermione and Harry are like brother and sister.

The movies support this, too, with, as Mug brought up, "Do you want to move a bit closer?" and the almost-hand-holding incident in PofA.

And then, of course it's Ron Hermione throws her arms around when Buckbeak is executed.

I thought GofF brought this out even more. Yes, the Yule Ball scene was very faithful to the books, and even improved upon with her crying on the stairs. Very well done!

And, it is important for the H/Hr sayers to note that in the second task when Harry is supposed to retrieve what he will miss the most: it was Ron, it wasn't Hermione.

I am very curious to see how Ron and Hermione are handled in OoftP. They are more united in this book in how they approach Harry.

In the GofF film, it was interesting to me that they turned that around so that Ron and Hermione were arguing at the end without Harry being there until he walks up at the very end of the argument.

So, perhaps we will see more moments without Harry being there in OoftP. Of course: new director, new movie so who knows.

I would be very heart broken if someone died. especially hermione. she is an awesome character and I love how her and ron are together. its the most cutest relationship! smart and dopey yet so perfect for each other. as they say opposites attract. i wouldnt be surprised if they hooked up in the next book which is the last book so they better hook up!!! JKR u better make them hook up!!! lol. its so cute if they weren't together i would die! so please end up together and harry and ginny better get back together. He only broke up with her for her own safety!

exactly
i think that ron and hermione are perfect 4 each other too..they're so cute and funny together.. j.k r can't make someone of them dies.. (is it correct??) it would be too mean and cruel ..

Some of your lot are in the H/Hr thread making waves again. Haven't Mason and I made ourselves quite clear in the past?

I strongly suggest that the older members of this ship get the newer ones under control before I lock all these flippin' ships threads.

OMG, I've just finished reading HBP (the book came to my country just last saturday) and it's soooo R/Hr!! I just loved it so much! They are the most perfect couple ever!
So many great lines!! I was jumping and yelling and smiling like a fool in my room! Finally! After five books and many years, they took courage to express their feelings! I'm just a huge R/Hr shipper since the first book and I was just so happy!
How can they be so wonderful together? It just amazes me...

What's this R/Hr shippers at the H/Hr thread, no, no, no, that's bad. We're not suppose to do that for good reason, this is a civil board, let's not start a civil war. Sigh.
I no this is a tad late but Hermione and Ron in the jod market is something I wanted to comment on. I was talking to my friend Megan about this a while ago and I think that it would be interesting if Hermione would be the major bread winner for the family, well Ron(though he'll have a job) will be the one who takes care of the kids. Hermione, with her brillance, could easly move right up in the minirsty, getting a major job. And my sister and I think that a sign of a good realtionship is that the man and woman on occasion swicths roles, like Scully and Mulder.
In potraying Ron and Hermione in OoP, I'm really exicted for this, more exicted than I was for GoF. Because how I see Ron and Hermione in the book is if all that was happening didn't, they would of get together. But that's just me. And of course Dan promises to be unspeakablly amasing, , he has so much talnet for someone so young. But back on topic. I think the kiss on the check before the Quiddicth macth will change to a quick, very chaste, kiss on the lips. That's a half hope, half opion. HBP will be awsome, I'm sure. I love this book for them. Because it's reached its peak, they are done for it to keep being what it has for so long.

Comparing the books and the movies, we can see that Harry and Hermione's interactions championed by H/Hr supporters have been changed. The hug in book 1 is replaced by the hug in Book 2. The kiss at the end of Book 4 is replaced by a kiss after the second task. Amazingly, the R/Hr interactions not only are usually left as is, but also enhanced. The "eat slug" scene, the Petrified look, the Hogsmeade trip for two, the Yule Brawl. Now that should be obvious how loyal the movies are to the books: for the important parts.
So, Ellen, I share the big hope that the kiss before Quidditch not only be pictured faithfully but can also be enhanced as you wish

Here's to hoping. But it would be the smallest kiss, but something. I wonder if Ron's and Hermione first kiss was during HBP, because I don't want to wait beyond 2008 for a kiss. Sigh, stupid movies that take so long to make! But HBP will probally take the shortest amount of time to make, Dan will be 18, and Emma will probally be done with school. I don't know about the child labour laws there, Bonnie will be 16 will she work more hours because she's older? Anyway, back on topic. Ron and Hermione forever!

I think Ron and Hermione are a perfect couple and they do match so well. It's correct. that we have to wait an amount of time still untill we see their first kiss, but I know it will be worth waiting! My only concern is, that they might not take the same actors for HBP as for the other movies before. Are they not too old? They are suposed to play 15-year old teenagers but at that time thay might be 18 or even older. Oh, I hope they won't take other actors than Emma Watson and Rupert Grint....they fit perfectly to the roles. But well that wasn't really waht I wanted to say....Just that Hermione and Ron are perfectly fit for each other....They are just so cute. They are like too magnets. Each of them is a on an end...and although they are totally different, they attract each other, because it's meant to be like that....I can only agree: Ron and Hermione forever!...

Mug,

Yes, the filmmakers have made it a habit to enhance, which is why I've never gotten why some people think they the films tilt towards Harry/Hermione, but to which his/her own, I guess.

And yes, I do think we'll see Ron & Hemione moments enhanced in Phoenix and HBP. Phoenix especially will need as much humor and romance as possible because it is so dark.

HBP has a very dark ending, but I didn't find the book overall nearly as dark as I did Phoenix. Everything seems to go to hell in Phoenix until the book is almost finished. I wish Mike Newell was doing Phoenix as well. I really liked how the humor was handled in Goblet, and how the "coupling"moments were portrayed. Pretty faithful to the book, overall.

Amyrat151,

No, sorry, I disagree. Ron and Hermione don't kiss in HBP, and though there are a lot of great Ron & Hermione moments in HBP (more so than any other book to date), hopefully they will stick with the books.

Just think, we'll have Book 7 out most likely by the time the HBP film comes out so we'll already know what we have to look forward to in the seventh film! Best yet to come!

But HBP is chock full of Ron & Hermione, even if they don't kiss. Let's recap:

* Hermione's jealousy of Phlegm..."It's pathetic!"
* Getting their OWLs..."You're actually disappointed, aren't you?"
* The Lavender Episode...jealousy abounds
* Ron's furtive glances at Hermione
* Slug Club..."No, I wouldn't."
* Ron's jealousy over Krum (again)
* The McLaggen Incident
* "Er-my-nee!"
* Ron holding Hermione at the funeral (ah...finally)


Annette,

Unless one of the actors themselves decides they don't want to continue in the HP films (could happen), it seems very unlikely the producers will recast the roles of one of the main characters, especially The Big Three.

It really doesn't matter what their age is. It would be much harder for an audience to suspend their disbelief with a new actor as Ron (I couldn't do it) than to suspend disbelief because Rupert Grint is 22 or whatever.

Michael J. Fox was 24 when he played a high school student in Back to the Future. Their physical age really won't matter.

We do need to wonder if Dan, Rupert and Emma will want to continue with the roles, though, especially as these films take so long to make.

The up side is, so far, they all three seem to want to continue.

After all, can any of us imagine someone other than Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker?

I really, really hope the actors don't leave or be replaced. That would be DREADFUL.

By movie sevem, I'm assuming they'll be in their 20s, if they continue (please God). No one can top Rupert and Emma. But hey, look at....er, Andy Milonokis. He's flippin' 29, and he looks 12!!! Reinforcing what PigWithHair said, age shouldn't be too big an issue, unless the actors decide they are too old, which although possible is probably unlikely. They love doing Harry Potter.

As for the kiss: that happens in OotP, not HBP. Particularly what I'm spasing over for the next movie to come out...HURRY IT UP ALREADY!!!!!! It was easy to imagine in our own little minds, but it'll be even better on the big screen. Here's to hoping!

Personally, for the actors, I don't thikn their age will matter in the end. Tons of people have played characters many years younger than themselves so the HP cast can do it! Plus they all have said they don't want another person playing their part. But I can't wait until the seventh book to get to see what happens with Ron and Hermione!! They are just so perfect for each other . You can just tell there is chemistry between them. When I read about them in the books and see them on screen together it just makes me bery happy*giggles* And as someone else stated, Harry's most important thing in the Second Task was Ron, not Hermione! So, I don't think that is goign to work! All for Ron and Hermione!!

Guys, I have a doubt...
I was browsing in many R/H LJ's communities and I noticed that many people are talking and there are thousands of avs with the sentence: "I belive in trees" and I still don't know what this means for R/H fans.
Cause I am one, but I was like two weeks far from the web and I have no idea about why the sentence is related to R/H. And I really don't remember Ron or Hermione saying that on HbP (maybe it's because my book is in another language).
If anyone could answer me that, I'd apreciate!

Trees? Haven't heard that one. I have no idea as to the connection.

I've been scouring the net looking for good Ron & Herm fanfic and there isn't all that much out there, eh?

Hard to find.

What I want to see in the next movies is the fill-in for several hidden scenes in the books. Especially since Book 3, when romance started, the readers are not given a chance to see how Ron and Hermione met after the holidays nor how they parted for holidays. The Movie 3 has given a good feeling for showing what happened during one of their trips to Hogsmeade ('Do you want to move closer'), which was not revealed in the book.
In the books (3 and later), we only know from Harry that Hermione has always arrived at Ron's place (Burrow, 12GP) ahead of him. In book 3 and movie 3, Harry found them enjoying themselves when the trio met. Having ice-cream for two in Book 3, bickering over cat and rat in Movie 3 with Hermione simply said "O, hi Harry" while busy with Crookshanks (her cat with fur matching Ron's hair color). In book 4 and film 4, Hermione came earlier and built a close relationship with Ginny prior to Harry's arrival and their subsequent trip to Quidditch World Cup. In book 5 Hermione was busy doing something with Ron alone in a dark room quietly. So absorbed was she, that she couldn't hear any other noise and was surprised by Harry's opening the door. At least there should be a good explanation for that, maybe if Hedwick and Pigwidgeon can speak? I wish Movie 5 will show something about it. Also in book 5, Hermione came for Christmas after the fateful night when they bickered about long "novel" for Viktor and Arthur was bitten by Voldemort. When Ron opened the door for her, what were both of them like? Blushing, stammered? Hermione would try to state a good reason for her to forgo her parents fabulous ski trip plan to visit the gloomy 12 Grimmauld Place where Hermione constantly be insulted by the portraits of "pureblood" wizards and witches. Did they do an awkward hug? Did Ginny and Mrs. Weasley save them from awkward blushing moments? Meanwhile, Harry conveniently hid himself in Buckbeak's room, so the readers can only guess with passion. In Book 6, not surprisingly, again Hermione was one step ahead of Harry. She made herself comfortable in the burrow (sitting by the window reading her new book) and formed a coalition with Ginny to share their synergical dislike of Fleur (for the sake of Ron and Bill).
Can we have one good meeting moment?
Everytime the trio parted, Harry had to leave first. We never see Ron and Hermione bidding each other farewell. A kiss on Harry's cheek in Book 4, what was for Ron then? A unison farewell from both (on behalf of the Weasley family) for Harry in Book 5, what for each other then?
There should be something too obvious for Jo Rowling's taste of mysterious romantic pairings during those vulnerable moments for lovers. Hello's and goodbye's in romance are usually full of emotions, even when the separation is only for days, instead of years. Shouldn't we be treated with one unforgettable moment of those in the movie?

I have this odd, crazy, stupid theory that Ron and Hermione have been secretly dating since third year . Wouldn't that be strange if they were? People were right, in saying that we can only guess if there are more romantic scenes that we don't read/see. I mean for all we know, Ron and Hermione have already kissed (Hermione's little kiss on the cheek dosen't count.) I mean they could have snogged to the high heavens without us realizing it!!!! wouldn't that suck if it were true?? Yeah it would......But Seriously, suppose they really have been going out for some time, and they had a fght and Ron to get back at Hermione started dating one of her friends (a.k.a. Lavender Brown.)
That could be a reason why Hermione was so affected by the *HUGE* snogging sessions in OotP......This is a dumb theory, but Ron and HErmione could have been waiting for the right moment in the years to tell Harry........They could have also had this deep, burning, passion for each other and told each other at *HIS* furneral.....and then hooked up? Please tell me.....How stupid is this theory??? And people who think that Ron and Hermione will never get together because of their constant bickering, are wrong...... People get together with the least (or in this case, through our eyes, most) likely people!!!

OMG

im now a believer ronxdraco, wouldnt that be so ironic if they really had been hiding their realtionship all this time, dating lavender would be a excellent rebound for Ron.

If only it wasnt Harry potter and the..., and not the advenntures of the fantasic trio and the..., then maybe we would know what hermione and ron get up to in the summer and not just harry being bored at the Dursleys.
Someone need to emil JK rowling and get her rollin' on a new installement called Hermione and Rons secret summers. lol

-Sarah

Hehehe, like i said someone give her a buzz

-Sarah

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Mug,

It is very true that the moments that really matter between Ron & Hermione, such as when they are alone over the summer or in the hospital wing, we don't see.

Just as we don't see Harry & Ginny's walk around the lake.

It is probably most likely that there will be more of "don't sees" in the final book, though I agree with you that I would love it if in Book 7, Ron & Hermione have a discussion about what has gone on between them.

It will be a bit strange, I think, if they don't at least talk just a bit about what happened during their 6th year. If they just get together without clearing that out a bit, hmm...she may do that, though and leave it up to fan fiction to fill in the blanks.

I hope not. I'd like for JKR herself to fill in just a few of those blanks.
But then again, I'm hoping for a thousand page Book 7 because I will not want it to end!

ronxdraco and coolcharm,

Welcome here if you have not been before!

I have to say I disagree, though, that Ron & Herm have been a couple all this time. In fact, looking at their reactions to each other it seems a bit clear that they have never been comfortable enough around each, or have had a lessen in the tension between them, to indicate such a relationship already exists.

But I have no fear. I am sure we are going to see it in Book 7. And I do think JKR will give us their first kiss. She has spent much time on developing these two to be together. She won't let us down in that regard.

Makes sense and thanks for clearing that up.

What Ron & Hermione moments are you hoping to see in the Order of the Phoenix film?

"Who're you writing the novel to?" I'm looking forward to that one! Also, Ron being made a Prefect!

I know I could be reading too much into it, but I think the dream Harry has where Ron and Hermione are wearing crowns in Order of the Phoenix might mean that they become Head Boy and Head Girl in Book 7.

That would be another of Ron's heart desires from Year 1 down. It would be interesting to see if they were to look into the Mirror of Erised in Book 7. Ron would see something else entirely.

And interesting Hermione didn't get to look into the mirror, eh? Well, I'm hoping it comes back in the final book.