to get back against james and sirius for constantly teasing him hate snape for lyf (??) dissaparate out

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Because he was a mudblood-hating, Death Eater wannabe, that always got teased and loved the Dark Arts. Thats why i think he made up that spell...anyone else have an idea?

Snape didn't have many friends so I think that making up 'Dark' spells was his hobby or something. It could also be that he created the spells to defend himself against bullying students (which didn't work, the spells were used against him). I think he was just fascinated by the Dark arts.

If someone keep 'dacking' you and hanging you upside down etc, wouldn't you want some way of getting even?

I think he was probably mucking around one time, working out what said causes what consequence, came across this pretty powerful spell and though 'you beautie'. So it gotten written into 'THE BOOK'. However, if you remember, he didn't specify what it did, only that it was to be used on enemies.

However if that means he was only planning on using it in extreme circumstances, or if he just didn't want other people to 'accidently' come across it---??? I mean, personally, if I saw it and wondered what it did, then I'd be tempted- like Harry- to try it. So maybe Snape just realised how much harm it could cause and was in some what awe of the power that he could possess.

Actually, if you read the chapter in OotP, Snape's worst memory, he did use it. On James. Pg 647 OotP (us version):

"But too late; Snape had directed his wand straight at James;there was a flash of light and a gash appeared on the side of James's face, spattering his robes with blood."

We can all agree that James was Snape's enemy. And he created that spell for situations like these. To Snape, this was an extreme circumstance.

I think his fascination with the darks arts was explained in HBP. The loving way he explained the abilities of people using dark arts. You have to be smarter, more clever and cunning than your oponent. This spoke to him because it is when he needed help the most in life, the dark arts helped him feel better, more powerful and get himself some sort of satisfaction.

I don't know how relevant this is, but I remembered this one passage, from GoF chapter: "Padfoot Returns" - Sirius said this, speaking to Harry, Ron & Hermione in Hogsmeade:

"Snape knew more curses when he arrived at school than half the kids in seventh year and he was part of a gang of Slytherins who nearly all turned out to be Death Eaters."

I would suggest that, as the evidence shows Snape already knew a load of curses when he arrived at Hogwarts, he most likely wasn't using them just to defend himself.

Also - we have to assume that someone was teaching him said curses, at least to begin with - but who? It's unlikely that his mother ever did - she wouldn't even lift her wand to protect herself from her abusive muggle husband - though, it could be argued that she was in some kind of denial. At any rate, from what we know of her, she seems too timid a person to know any powerful dark magic.

I think he had a mentor whilst growing up, someone who taught him dark magic. Voldemort, maybe? It's possible that somehow, even then, he was in contact with him. This might also explain why Voldemort trusts him so implicitly, prior to Half-Blood Prince, when the other Death Eaters (Bellatrix) were questioning his loyalties. My other thought was Lucius Malfoy - it seems that they are very old friends - perhaps they knew each other from early childhood days, and someone in Lucius's family taught him dark magic?

Moving on, I would conclude by saying that I think Snape made those curses up because he was a malicious little slimeball, even then. There's no doubt that Snape is evil, not in my mind. I think he created the "Sectumsempra" curse and others out of spite - he wanted to hurt people, and he found that the more he experimented, the more effectively he was able to do this. Simple as that.

It is possible that he got them from another person. I've often wondered about the relationship between him and Lucius Malfoy. I remember reading in one book (and it escapes me as to which one) in an article that Malfoy commented in that he was late 40s, however I always put Snape- along with James etc- as being much younger, in their mid-30s. So maybe Malfoy was the mentor and he got the spells from him, who was already a DE.

mmmmm yes very interesting good point bout if you got dacked and hung upside down wouldnt you want revenge but tell how exactly did he get his book from snape " hermiones a babe " but he wasnt even in the same house as him and if i was harry in book hbp i would and left malfoy to die in the bathroom and i would have grown suspicious of snape knowing what he did. bad thing bout snape time to get punishment it was malfoys job to kill dumbledore not snapes.

but i think its gryfindors sword and ravenclaws bird( if there is one )

I personally snape made it either to prove to himself how good a wizard he was, or simply to use it for defence in dark times.

Theres no proof he actually made it, he could of easily copied it straight out of another book. But it makes more sense that he made it, as when Harry used it on Malfoy, Snape immediatly recognised the curse.

As for when snape may have used it on james, i suppose you could say it depends how much you really wanted to hurt the person. If snape had simply wanted to scare james, and not put much effort into the curse, it may have had "lighter" effects. Like Avada Kedavra - it only works if you REALLY mean it and truely want that person dead

Ah, you may be right, so it's another proof for me that Snape wasn't that bad... I think he wanted to be scary to feel respected because many people didn't respect him.

I think he made up the spell cos he was obsessed with the dark arts and so he could get revenge against people he hated (the marauders)

he made a lot of spells, this was just one of them like it said in the princes book, fo enemy's. he was very interested in the dark arts so this was just a spell for enemys.

wow your really thinkin here, well ya see he could of been planning this for some time. or he could of been wanting to be a death eater his whole life so he made it to kill. ya never no keep thinkin..

Duh!
Because it's cool!

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i dont gthink he made it cause he wanted to be a death eater i believe he made it out of hatred towards james and Sirius.

Snape "Fancies the dark arts". Percy tells us that in the first book. I dont think we need any other reason than that for why he created the spell.

Stop ruddy arguing about whether he made it or not. He wouldn't take credit for it to Harry were it not his own.

Why would he make it? Well, Rowling wants us to feel bad for the guy. I mean, he's this ugly little unpopular kid who got teased all the time. If you were in that position, you'd create a spell to slash the living hell out of someone. I know I would.

Oh, he definitely did make Sectumsempra, Levicorpus etc. up himself, while he was at school. The Potions book is evidence enough of that. I was just saying, he apparently already knew a lot of curses before he ever even went to Hogwarts. I don't imagine he would have been able to make spells up himself, before he ever even went to Hogwarts - that seems like pretty advanced magic for a child, even for a wizard like Snape - so someone must have taught him these other curses.

My take on it is this. Snape invented this gruesome and sadistic spell, Sectumsempra, in order to elevate his status above others. With his ability to conjure such spell, Snape certainly proved his power, despotism, and competence. Nevertheless, as I am inclined to believe, he has never intended to use it. The purpose of this functional spell is only to serve as a tangible monument for Snape to reflect upon.

well harry is probably much stronger than snappe at that age since he got powers from voldemort and all was saying after harry scared away the demenotors in the 3rd book that only a truly powerfull wizard could have scared away all those dementors, even sounded like Dd was impressed of harrys powers

Snape invented spells, because he was a really talented wizard, and he knew how to make up jinxes. I dont think he created them, because he wanted to use them against James.
He didnt have many friends, so i can imagine, that in his free time he was just sitting in the common room, creating new spells.

I think he wanted to be powerful and woshipped like voldy. he wanted to have spells to teach is faithful servants so that they could look up 2 him. That's why he was so angry when james used his own spell on him and made it look like his, then passed it around untill it went out of fashion. So he probably made the sectumsempra spell to strike james when he was unprotected, lord voldemort beat him 2 it!

I agree he created it to defend against the mauraders, but i find it interesting that when snape used it, it only created a slash across James's face, but when harry used it he created two gisnt gashes across Malfoy's chest-abdomen.

Anyway, he needed a way to defend himself against the mauraders because they were the best students in school skillfully. The only way to defeat them was to use a curse they never heard of and did not know how to block.

Why Would Snape Create Sectumsempra??
i think he created it because he has been through a lot and pain is just one thing he has had to endure on the way. he proably wanted revenge on those that had caused him pain.


maybe he did want revenge on the Mauraders... and well i like the ideas of needing a new spell so no one would know how to block it... that was proably what struck him...

Sectumsempra is a dark and dangerous spell. It is a weapon. Snape felt like a victim of the Marauders. Victims frequently search for powerful weapons to use against their opressors. Why wouldn't Snape create a weaponto use against them?

Why Would Snape Create Sectumsempra??

I think probably because he had been bullied all of his life. He had to put up with his parents arguing. I just think he was so sad so bottled up he wanted away to realease his anger. Sectumsempra was a way of realasing it.

Plus he liked the dark arts.

But, actually, we don't have proof that Snape used Sectumsempra on the Marauders. If he had hurted a schoolmate, this would have been reported to Harry - like the other news about Snape that Lupin or Sirius told the boy- and reported in general.

I think that, again, Snape is misunderstood. Knowing Dark Arts means not using them. Harry and Dumbledore know about DA, and so every single Auror working for the Ministry. This doesn't mean they are all Dark Wizards. Actually, except for DD's death, we haven't seen Snape perform an Unforgivable or a charming spell against anyone.

The reason why Snape created the spell could be the necessity of defending himself, no doubt, but also the need to experiment, the will to invent something new...We dont actually know if LV knows about Snape's spells, and this is another proof that he didn't create the spells to take advantage through them.

I think what some of you mean by him using it on James is that he could control it better than Harry could on Draco. He may have been practicing or just could control his emotions a lot better and when he used it on James, it merely tattered his robe or something. What we saw on Draco was an all out unleashment, if you will.

I suspect he invented a lot of spells and maybe curses and charms, but only wrote a few of them in the book. Or maybe he wrote them all and Harry only saw a few of them because he flipped to only those pages he needed for a certain potion.

Actually, now that I think about it, it seems that Snape actually used Sectumsempra against James when they fought in Snape's worst memory.

"Snape had directed his wand straight at James; there was a flash of light and a gash appeared on the side of James's face, spattering his robes with blood."

Awww...yes, he used it. At least, he used it to defend himself, and in the less harming way (not that I have to justify Snape at any cost...)

Snape has every reason to create spells, to protect himself against bully's to prove that he is a powerfull wizard and to fill some spare time that he ineivtably has having no friends and all..

But i think that the main reason that he created a spell like that was just the fact that he created it. To pour time and energy into something, then see it work against your enemies, that has to have some sort of stisfaction with it. He showed, in the creation of that curse, that he could create and destroy at the same time. I'm not saying he was playing God, at least not intentionally, but he created one hec of a powerful curse at the age of fifteen or sixteen, how many wizards can boast that? (not that Snape is the boasting type..)

And yes Clara- he did do it to protect himself, causing minimal damage to the people around him becuase he's really a big softie at heart, and he just neds a big hug...
*steps back from snape- please dont hurt me clara- he's yours*

i think he was just angry and wanted revenge on people like james and sirius. he was very interested in the dark arts. i think he jus wanted to try it. i dont find it really supriseing that he created the spell. i bet he also wanted to live up to other dark wizards and that sort of thing. i dont know if he actually ever used it at school though. he couldve gotten in serious trouble. or it couldve been even worse if it spread like levicorpus.

Why would Snape create Sectumsempra? Think about it - he's evil! I think the better question to ask is why wouldn't he create it.

In his book there was a footnote with the spell "for enemies". Snape was in a situation where he was getting into lots of confrontations with but not restricted to marauders, so he needed some weapons in his arsenal, not only to feel comfortable but also as a potential warning to his foes. A simple demonstration would have shown what Snape was capable of and he would expect them to be wary.

That raises an interesting question. We were treated only to that one little vignette of what Snape's parents are like. Could it be that his mother did finally get enough of the abuse and lash out against the abusive cad? That would help explain why Severus is so withdrawn and secretive.

I think a lot of what you said about Snape is accurate, but this idea popped up when I read your quote.

In a related issue, could Snape have invented this curse for self defense from same Muggle father to use when Snape came of age. If it was self defense, it would have been excuseable under the Law. Was this part of what Snape confessed to Dd, and therefore Snape's relating the pain of killing his own father to the loss Harry would have had over losing his Dad, that convinced Dd of Snape's genuine repentence??? THings that make you go .....hmmmmmm

Snape created sectumsempra because he was and is infatuated with the dark arts and as you know became a death eater.

I am not sure that Snape used Sectum. on James, as he was just as angry as Harry was.
(this is the theory that the spell escalates, the more angry you are.)

I think he just created sectumsempra because he was angry with people like james that bullied him. Of course, he didn't use it when he was in hogwarts (he couldn't ). Maybe then as a deatheatrer...

ahhh...interesting question. well, I reckon he created it, cause he's always had this 'i'll do it my my way' kinda motto to his life. He created the potions his way, & so I reckon he wanted to create spells his way as well (if that makes any sense )

Snape's mind is soo screwed up probably resulting from a bad childhood and lack of friends. I wouldn't be surprised if all he did was sulk in the corner of the Slytherin common room and create dark spells and things. He is such a wierdo and hated the marauders so much that he probably created it to use on them.

Honestly I don't like to think that Snape created Sectumsempra because he was evil. Snape wasn't evil until after he choose to join Voldemort after he left Hogwarts...Snape at that time chose to become evil.

Sectumsempra was obviously created for Snapes own defense. Look how long he had been bullied and teased by James and other students. Honestly, I would have done the same thing, if I were Snape and that happened to me. It's not suprising that he created such a powerful spell, which a powerful and quite damaging effect. Snape probably would not only use it in defense, like he did against James, but probably for revenge and that may also be another reason behind the creation of the spell.

he just had pink soap bubbles steaming from his mouth moments earlier maybe he was still a little dazed and almost missed with the curse

he could have just known alot of latin and figured since rictusemra is forever tickle

"rictus" L. gaping mouth, grin + "sempra" L. always

figured the sectumsempra would be forever cut

"sectus" L. past participle of "seco", to cut "sempra" L. always

i think snape was just a lonely disturbed child who had no friends and when you are extremely powerful with no friends you do things that late you will probably regret. he most likely created that spell after a long day of getting bullied. telling himself that the next time anyone tried to mess with him they'd sectumsempra them. he never really intended to use the spell and i dont think he ever did. which makes it even more sad knowing that snape couldnt use that spell but harry could, even though he didnt now what it would do. thats what makes it all the more horrible...poor draco

i think this spell was devised by JKR (as opposed to snape ... make sense?) because - lets be frank - blood needs to happen (incase we dont get freaked enuff by flashes of light and people falling over looking purple & motionless).

it will also look great at the movies.

but certainly only grown HP characters should use it and not the wee kiddies.

I think that he was inspired by James and Sirius. They hated each othr very, very much...."for enemies" it said....what better enemy to Snape than them?
Besides...I have always questioned myself about snape's thought in the pensive in OotP, the one where James and Sirius were annoying Snape by the lake afetr their OWLs. Who knows what happened after that???? Maybe it might mean alot later on..... who knows?

I dont think so i think snape found it somewhere and decided to use it against James.

Snape probably created Sectumsempra to disturb Potter and Black. Hwever, if Snape is really a spy for Voldemort, he could have created Sectumsempra to harm Dumbledore. Who knows? Snape is such a fake (we never know on which he is, if we'll do some day), that any hunch about him is not 100% for sure.

I think that Snape created Sectemsempra because of all the teasing he endured from Sirius and James while in school. He probaly wanted a real good spell to use on those that he felt had wronged him in some way or another, he felt that this would be the best spell to take "ceratin" people out of his line of sight per say, and when Harry used it on Draco, Snape knew what to do to heal Draco back up "maybe a little scarring, but that can be fixed"

Marcey

I so agree with ^.

I think it's because he's trying to think of a way of defending himself from the marauders. He probably has nothing better to do so he spends all his time thinking up dark spells that he hopes he can use on the marauders.