Why do all the characters place such an emphasis on how much Harry looks like his father, but has his mother's eyes? I think this is going to be important when it comes to distinguishing them. I think James (from the past) will make an appearance in book 6 or book 7, somehow, and that is the only way they will be able to tell the difference. Any views on why this would be significant?

Well, I don't know that it is that significant. I mean, just because Dumbledore and Sirius mentioned it a lot, doesn't mean that it is that important. I guess we'll just have to wait for book six to find out.

I wasn't asking whether it is significant or not, what I'm asking for is theories on why it might be significant, so save your breath in future

Be nice, figgy! Jo's said it's really important, but I really don't know why it would be. I'm thinking that perhaps it has something to do with Lily putting that charm on Harry to protect him when Voldemort came. Perhaps she, like Voldemort, put some of herself in Harry that night.

I think she did. Cause he does pretty good in charms. Yes figgy, don't be coming on here figgy66, that isn't nice, all you have to do is reconsider the feelings. I think Harry's eyes will really help him and when he is fighting Voldemort, give him real, more powerful strength, HER strength, HER LOVE, which will be Harry's power.

Well I've obviously managed to tick a couple of you off. But I get really frustrated when people give irrelevant answers to questions that are really bugging me. Any chance of stopping the repetition and meaningless comments folks?

We're not really mad at you, figgy66, we're just asking for a little more politeness in your comments. And I see that the only meaningless comment here thus far is the "testing" comment.

Your standards are obviously rather low, and as for Dan4me's testing comment, I think they are a new user, so why not try a little politeness yourself and cut them some slack?

I would comment, I actually AM angry now (because you have called all of us meaningless and now you're defending the one comment that actually is--by the way, I was insulting the comment, NOT the user), but you know what? I'm going to shut up because I don't want to get kicked off of the forums. :evil:

ya i am a new user . by the way how do u guys get those pics in the profile?

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I have not in any way called everyone meaningless, I do however think that repetitious comments are not productive. Surely we are all here to find out more about Harry, rather than trawl through endlessly repetitive comments? Please be kinder to Dan4me

what is a url?
sry for all the asking and thanx figgy for being nice to me![/img]

Kisses dan - are you a BB5 fan? URL button should appear when you post a reply

nope it doesnt appear.
the only problem is that i dont know how to get pics like u guys.
i tried for like and hour and i cant.
i alredy clicked on the aim icons and i still cant.
help please!

There have been rumors about Harry's eyes becoming important to the plot. Waaaay back, everyone thought that the sixth book would have something mentioning Harry's eyes.

And figgy, we expect politeness and respect in the forums. The moderators have recently become very evil, (mainly myself) and will not accept any bad behavior. (Not that you are behaving badly right now.)

All I'm saying is, watch it. Because all of a sudden, I have become very short and nasty. Hence, my wonderful pseudonym.

Wow, I feel like I walked into a war zone, and yet you still wander off when that is what you're complaining about. (Don't yell at me)
I think Harry's eyes will be important as eyes are seenas a window to the soul and what do Dementors do? However, that statment was a leap in the dark so most likely holds no meaning at all. (Once again, Lily did not place a charm on Harry, it was accidental magic!)

HI, it's my first post here , well if you look at my sig it says Wandless Magic, usefull in tight spots, so i think maybe Harry's eyes is a great sign of a mothers love...
So if you think about what could happen if he uses wandless magic (Lumos). I believe a wizard/witch gets attached to is/her wand after a while. Harry's eyes show his part of his mother. If she put a charm on Harry or it was accidental i think maybe his eyes are linked as well to Voldemort, I.E. his scar

Sorry if i confuse anyone! 8) thanks for reading.

Okay, I'm about 99.9999999% positive that the "love" charm thingy was accidental. I mean, a charm that strong performed on purpose would've taken a long time, and a lot of concentration. Things Lily wouldn't have wasted if she'd wanted to get away. With the time needed to perform an intentional charm this complicated Lily would've had time to apparate or take floo power or hide or something.

maybe she was performing the charm when harry was born but only finished that night because Lily knew the prophecy

They weren't expecting to die, a charm like that where she gave her life for him would have to have been done last minute to fit to what supposedly happened. They had a secret keeper who had been friends with them since school. It should've been a fool-proof plan and there would be no reason to perform any charm. Especially since they all expected to come out relatively unharmed

ok maybe but they knew te prophecy would have to be full-fillefd, they knew who they were going up against

I think Lily's and Harry's eyes are relevant. They don't all say to say it. It is relevant. IMPORTANT i think.

Of course they are relevant...JK Rowling said they were. And I still say the charm was an accident. DD just used the word charm to describe it because he was talking to an 11 year old boy. It is a form of a charm as well, but unintended and a type of old magic. Old magic was accidnetal but very powerful. Maybe it's like wine and gets better and better with time...

Who said the charm wasn't accidental? I don't think it was accidental, exactly, but I do believe that Lily didn't know exactly what was going to happen. Okay, let me explain this more thoroughly...

I think she was doing all she could to protect Harry, that part she knew about, but I don't think she knew she was actually putting a charm on Harry.

It was sort of accidental, but not completely. Make sense?

I agree with that but I think the charm itself was ALL accidental and Lily was just willing to give up everything to protect Harry and stuff...if that's what you just said sorry for paraphrasing

No apology needed, I appreciate your paraphrasing--it helped get my point across a little clearer than I anticipated.

lol. Well, no problem, but I think I just confused people more. Hey another thing that may have to do with Harry's eyes...Legilemency, don't you need to keep eye contact with the victim for that one...anyway

No, you don't need to make eye contact for Legilimency, as Snape had made another mind attack while Harry was standing up at one point. You need eye contact for jinxing, which was established in book one, but I don't believe it's needed for Legilimency.

While we're on the subject, I figured something out recently. Lupin told Harry that Snape is a "mastered Occlumens" when Harry had asked why Snape had to teach him Occlumency. Voldemort claims he can tell when people are lying to him (as he has demonstrated), so he must be a mastered Legilimens. If Snape indeed is, as everyone suspects, spying on Voldemort, this is how he is fooling Voldemort. A little thought I had...

Yes, well Snape can't be completely blocking out Voldy because that would make him suspect Snape...perhaps he is allowing him access to only memories that have nothing to do with supporting DD or the Order...(I swear I read somewhere about the eye contact thing...guess not...maybe I'll check it out later...or not ...okay I'll shut up)

Don't shut up! Maybe it does require eye contact, but I don't believe Jo told us so. And I think you're right with the accessing memories idea, it sort of occurred to me as well (but only I thought of "thoughts" instead of "memories").

i remember in the 5th book snape said something during harrys occlumancy lessons. he said to read minds you need eye contact ( i dont know how it relates to anything)

I was just skimming OotP and as far as I could tell, you're right. JK never specified eye contact...meh oh another thing that's sort of got to do with HP's eyes. They're green(duh) and the flash of light from Avada Ked. curse is the same green...meaning? probably none, but it sounded sort of ...I dunno

They are green because Lily's eyes were green. Good theories, I DO think you need eye contact to look into there mind WITHOUT wand, and with wand, you can do a spell, like Snape did. Whenever Tom does it, he looks into eyes and dosen't use the spell that Snape used to read Harry's mind.

I know Harry's eyes are green 'cause his mum's were ...Only a thousand characters have said he has his mother's eyes, plus it's genetics. I was just saying it's an interesting(or not so much) coincidence that the curse that killed his parents are green like his eyes...eyes reflect things(bear with me) and he would've seen the green light...his parents deaths have reflected on his actions and reactions as well as other aspects of his life....maybe thhis leads somewhere....

Yes, this theory I agree with.

on the topic of Harry's eyes, over on another forum they were discussing that Godric Gryffindors eyes were stated as green (not sure in which book so if anyone could help me with that I'd be grateful) and they were going down the line of the importance of the eyes and Harry's possible relation to Godric Gryffindor.

Just thought I'd throw that one out there for an interseting response.[/img]

That is interesting...but Harry's eyes are his mother's who was a muggle born so she wouldn't e related to Godric...plus, I think I read somewhere for sure that Harry wasn't a relation of Gryffindor's

In book 2 I believe. I think that Harry and Godric's eyes being green is just a similiarity. But, notice how there is a lot of thinkgs invovling the color green?

I think the fact that she stated Gyffindor's eyes were green as well just to point out that Harry has just as many qualities of Gryffindor as well as Slytherin

I think it means, just because your eye color is that of an evil wizard, dosen't make you evil, look at Godric, his eyes were green, I doubt he was evil.

Huh? That's what we were just saying...and Gryffindor wasn't evil...XD

Where did we come up with Godric's eyes being green? I'm positive it wasn't in the books as it doesn't sound familiar at all, did Jo actually say this (if so, link please!)?

Yeah, please post a link 'cause I have no memory of it eaither...I was just going along with the assumption that I skipped over that part

Yeah, as was I. I think his eyes should be red.

Sure would fit, wouldn't it? I don't really care what color his eyes were... I just want to know more about the founders of the school in general.

I think the founders, mainly Gryffindor and Slytherin, and the role of them are gonna be significant.

I believe so too--why else would the Sorting Hat mention it in his songs?

Because that's what the whole school was built on...these four people. Of course they'll be at least somewhat significant, I mean, the surface of Harry's turmoil has to do with how he doesn't know where he belongs and the two opposite houses hold Harry and Draco who are opposites of each other. I mean, Slytherin and Gryffindor represent opposing sides, don't they?

i think that godric and salazar will definately play a part in future books. just because i think we need more info on them.