Hi Guys, just thought of putting up this post topic coz I actually noticed some stuff in POA that I'm unsure of and wanna ask y'all out there to see if any of you can give me an answer. Thanks heaps, cheers!!

So I'll start the ball rolling and hopefully I'll not be the only slightly "clueless" one hee hee :wink:

1) When Ron and Hermione got back from their first Hogsmeade visit and they were on the stairs with Harry on the way back to the common room, (this was when the Fat Lady got attacked) what was Harry holding in his palm?

2) Who was the black student that had a few lines in the movie? He was the one that explained what The Grim was in Divination.

3) Is Professor Flitwick the one that was conducting the choir? Coz he doesn't look the same from the one in the first two, but according to the credits, it's the same person.

4) Sir Cadogan appeared in the credits but I don't remember seeing him in the movie. Did any of you?

All right...
1: I didn't notice Harry holding anything, could it be a mistake?
2: I think the black student with a few lines was just put in to explain stuff and isn't really relevant. Unless that's Dean or something, but I thought it was Dean who walked through the ghost their first night back.
3: It's not Professor Flitwick conducting the choir. The actor who plays Professor Flitwick signed on to play another character for this movie (why, I don't know).
4: Sir Cadogan was in the background on one of the pictures when the Fat Lady had her canvas slashed. He was the knight in armor stumbling around in the background. He was probably in some other scenes that were deleted, so they put him in so he still got credit.

Thanks, mate.

1. I've watched POA heaps of times and Harry's definitely holding something. Go check it out the next time you watch it. It's round and greyish-silver, and has something sticking out of it that's moving.

2. Nup he's definitely not Dean, yes you're right, Dean was the one who walked through the ghost and said that the thing in the cupboard was a Boggart during Defense Against The Dark Arts. I was just curious who this other black student was considering he did get lines in the movie, y'know? Hmmm...

3. Yeah I thought that couldn't be Professor Flitwick!! Hehe. So who did Warwick Davis play then? Yeah it's weird for him to play another role in the movie eh...but then again, in the credits it did say that he played Flitwick. Weird.

4. Oh yeahhh I think I remember someone running around now that you've mentioned it...hehehe

Well, I don't know how say it in english, but the thing that Harry hold in his palm is a "recordadora".
The black boy... I don't know who is he.
The professor Flitwick, jejeje is funny with this look.
And Sir Cadogan is appear when the Fat Lady was attacked, in the pictures with his horse.

One of my many questions is why did the change Lupin's bogart. After the moon it changed into a balloon. Why? I thought the cockaroach would be important later.

actually sir cadogan is in the movie in both scenes of the fat lady in the background

Man, I feel a bit dumb. Everyone seemed to have noticed Sir Cadogan except for me!! *sob* Hee hee

But no one's been able to answer what was that thing Harry was holding?? Ginebra - what's a recordadora?? Why do you reckon it's that? Or how do you know it's that?

Lupe - I don't know why they Lupin's boggart changed into a balloon instead of a cockroach like the book. Maybe they thought it was funnier. What I can say is that when realizing the pages of a book to the big screen, some editing and changes have to be made. Sometimes it's just tweaking and sometimes it's a total change from the actual fact. This is because sometimes what is written in the book just can't suit the frame of the movie, you get what I mean? Like maybe something may take too long to explain in a movie, so they just made it easier by changing it into something straightforward.

i read sumwhere that Cho iz also in dis movie but where iz she. :? i don't know i haf neva noticed her.

No, she never made it to POA, her first appearance will be in GoF.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what that thing was in Harry's hand... *starting to get exasperated*

Hehe.

The curiosity is starting to get to me!!

Ok was it just me or was there somebody new hangin out with Draco. That skinny kid. We saw ummm its either crabbe or goyle( sorry about that guys) in the beiginning of the movie but then this skinny guy came in in the snow scenes. Was i the only one who is confused about this?? :?

Yup there was definitely a new dude hanging out with Draco, Crabbe and Goyle. I THINK he's Marcus Flint but I can't say for sure.

Hey, I actually started a thread for questions about POA...it's titled "Confused or have a question about POA?"

I've a question there that no one's able to answer...could you go to my thread and see if you know the answer?? Hehe...thanks!!

Yeah.. I noticed that as well and I didn't really think much of it... sort of like the random African kid that kept talking out of nowhere....

Haha...that was another one of the questions I asked on my thread. Nobody seems to know who that black kid is!! I was wondering if he was anyone significant since he did get quite a few lines...

Marcus Flint? He's supposed to have left school by now...

I think that it might be Blaise...

Nah Marcus Flint is still at Hogwarts in the 3rd book!! I'm quite sure!!

Blaise? Sorry who's that?

Blaise is the one that got sorted in the first movie I believe... People weren't sure if he was male/female. Now we know it's a *he* ha...

The random african kid cracks me up.... it's just so random and he's so... I don't know.... odd

Ohhhh yeahhhh......thanks DancingVeela~!!

Yeah the African kid IS random!! That's why I asked if he was an actual character with a name from the book. It just seems odd that they'd give just some random student with no name quite a few lines, doncha think?

Grr...I'm getting annoyed that people are putting up new "I've a question" threads when I already put one up right here!! Sadly my thread's not too popular... (Confused or have a question about POA?)

Has anyone found out yet what object Harry was holding?? (refer to first post in my thread)

Maybe the thing Harry is holding is the sneakoscope... I know it shouldn't be there, but there are quite a few things that have been moved around. But perhaps they wanted to keep it in the movie but didn't have a chance to explain it... OR it's simply something Hermione and Ron bring back for Harry. dungbombs, droobles best blowing gum... That sorta thing...

As for me, I just want to know where the song Lupin plays during DADA with the Boggart, I love it and it isn't on the soundtrack! ARRRG I just want to find it and I don't even know what the name of it is or anything.




Raven

Raven - Kimcatus has found the title of that song!! Hooray for Kim, you're a legend!! Yeah I like that song too...it's pretty catchy!!

Oh and I've found out about the thingy Harry was holding in his hand (Kimcatus, it's in the Fat Lady attack scene, the trio are stuck at the staircase wondering what's the hold up - go check it out the next time you watch POA).

Anyways you're right Raven, it IS a SNEAKASCOPE. Ron does explain what it is but that scene got cut out so we only get to see Harry holding it - it will appear as an additional scene in the DVD!!

Yayyy sooo happy that I've found out what it is!! It was driving me insane with curiosity!!

I'm still wondering who the African kid is though. Don't you find it incredibly weird if he was a nameless character and yet he was "lucky" enough to get lines in the film? You know what I mean?

EXACTLY my thoughts!! It seemed less..."fair" in a way, to give this random dude lines when they could have given them to yeah, someone like Dean or Seamus, whom we already know and whose character has already been established. Weird.

I have a question about the movie! I think I remember that I read somewhere that Wood would be in the DVD extended version and that we will see more quidditch there! Anyone knows anything about that?
Loooney (the Wood fan)

Oooh, I hope so! I was so disappointed by the Quidditch in this film - it had the potential to be so good...plus it was Wood's last year!! Quidditch isn't just a subplot, it means so much to Harry. The loss of his broom and the match was just brushed over in the film, like it didn't really matter so much and it really did in the book. I know it wasn't really relevant to the overall story and probably fell victim to the time pressure, but all the same, I feel it was a loss.

And don't even get me started on the complete absence of the relationship between Sirius, Lupin, James and Peter...which definately is going to be important in later books. Their history goes towards Snape's hate motives, why Dumbledore feels so close to Harry and so on...

But I did like Sirius' 'chemistry set' line - pure Gary Oldman or what??!!!

Oh..if the student wasnt Dean it would have been Lee Jordan

Um as far as I know, Sean Biggerstaff who plays Wood, wasn't cast at all for POA.

Yeah I thought it was a mighty shame that there wasn't much Quidditch. You're right Dana, it was because of the time constraint. I totally agree that Quidditch should have had more emphasis because it is important to Harry (yeah he didn't look as devastated at the loss of his broom than in the book) and it is Wood's last year so I would have liked to see them win the Cup.

Yup I thought they could have explained the Marauders further for the benefit of those who didn't read the books, and yeah because it is important to the overall plot. Maybe they'll explain it in the fourth movie somewhere?

Well as some of you may know from reading my other posts, I am pro-POA. Some stuff should have been in like the two I've just mentioned, but overall, I thought it was brilliant. It was all down to the time constraint so Cuaron had to make some decisions. And I thought he did an awesome job regardless...it was a difficult task but he rose to the challenge.

I thought that guy was Blaise too. But in the credits it just says "Slytherin Boy". Oh, and Marcus is suppose to have been outa school by then, but JKR said that he failed and had to stay an extra year.
I don't know what was up with the random black people. I guess there just putting them in there because there weren't that many in the books or the first two movies.
That one was funny though.

Yeah he's only known as "Slytherin Boy" in the credits. And the black dude is "Boy 1" or something like that.

I still think it's weird to give a nameless character lines when they could have given them to someone like maybe Ernie Mcmillan or someone like that who we already know but hasn't had much chance for dialogue. You know what I mean? Or give one of the more established characters like Dean or Seamus or even one of the Patil twins?

And yeah Marcus Flint was supposed to have left but he failed some subjects...poor bugger...hehehe

This kid is unknown, not Blaise. Plese, he can't be Blaise!!!!!!!
Eso rompería mi mito... No, he isn't Blaise, he only is a Slytherin boy, UNKNOWN. Blaise must be... cute, I imagine him very very cute!!!! And this kid... en fin... is a bit (no, a bit not) IS ugly.
I hope he don't be Blaise

~ESPAÑOLA~

Hahaha don't you worry Ginebra, as I've said, in the credits he's officially known as "Slytherin Boy". We are all just GUESSING that he's Blaise, but really, we don't know for sure.

AHHHH, I just realized I was right about the Sneakoscope! How'd I do that? Geez I must be an airhead for missing that! I can't believe I was right, it's wrong that it's there since Ron sends the Sneakoscope to Harry for his birthday and all, but I thought they might stick it there if they cut stuff to save time, because I think the Sneakoscope comes into play later!

How'd you find out I was right? Was there some info. on the dvd or something? Just wondering!

WOOOOHOOOO I'm smarter then I thunk!

Raven

I read about it on Mugglenet or Veritaserum, they put up some additional scenes that would appear on the DVD and one of them was Ron giving Harry the sneakoscope when they got back from the first Hogsmeade visit. So obviously, this was before the scene when they find out the Fat Lady was attacked. They cut it out of the final edit but we still see Harry holding the sneakoscope in the film.

I was watching the movie version of Prisoner of Azkaban the other day, and I noticed a couple of things I found quite peculiar. Most important were the ones to do with Lupin.

On the bridge, after Harry discussed why Lupin had stopped him from facing the dementor in Defence Against the Dark Arts... the topic of James and Lily came up.

It could have possibly been when maybe James and Sirius had been suspicious of Remus, and Lily had been there to comfort him. I suppose.

Coolness... Oh and I saw someone say that the boy talking about the Grim was Lee Jordan... But I don't think he is, in fact I think Lee Jordan was commentating in CoS during the Quidditch meet and he is skinnier and has dreadlocks. But then again maybe not!

Lily and James and the other Marauders were still friends well into the threat of Voldemort, that's why the Potter's had a secretkeeper in the first place, remember that Sirius and Remus had suspected each other of being the snitchers on the Potters.

Lupin has seen some pretty rough times, never having a stable job or even just the racial slurs and things he'd have to go through as a werewolf. So maybe Lily just became a close friend after she started seeing James, I mean do we even really know when James and Lily started seeing each other?

So there's my thought.

Raven

Think about it he is a werewolf remember when everyone thought harry was Slytherins hier now imagine how he was ridiculed

No one knew that lupin was a werewolf, only the Marauders and Snape. and they only knew cause they worked to find out.

Yeah, Lupin went through a lot of rough times, most of which the other Marauders helped him through... why was it that this one time, it was only Lily?

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It also doesn't explain why Lupin recognized Harry from him having Lily's eyes instead of the scar, or the fact that he's practically identical to his old best friend. You'd figure the fact that Harry looked almost exactly like James would have tipped Lupin off to who Harry was... but no, it was his eyes ("your mother, Lily's").

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I'm guessing that Lupin was in love with Lily as well, and that James found out about it... turned his back on his old friend, as did the other Marauders cause well, they didn't follow Lupin... they followed James from what we've seen. And Lupin would have been alone then, except for Lily... who never stopped caring about him, and saw the good in who he was.

But that's just a thought.

Well there seems to be a lot of rumors going on that Remus always had a thing for Lily... Maybe that's it, and everyone says Harry has Lily's eyes, maybe this is Curaon's way of trying to incorporate that Lupin is different and doesn't just see James and maybe he really does have Lily's eyes!

And it isn't like they could really keep it from Lily, she'd find out sooner or later that her husband's best friend turns into a fuzzy, moon loving wolf thing every month... I'd think I'D want to know myself if I had a child!

Raven

Yeah, Lily would have known eventually. But not many people were aware that Lupin was a werewolf that absolutely didn't need to know.

My mentioning this was in response to @@siriusblack@@ saying "Think about it he is a werewolf remember when everyone thought harry was Slytherins hier now imagine how he was ridiculed "... just making the point that he wouldn't have been ridiculed by everyone because everyone didn't know. So it's a bit different...

The fact that Lupin was a werewolf has been hidden from people his whole life, even his students were unaware.

Ahh, well that makes sense... They didn't know, the whole spiel about the whomping willow, and the secret smuggling of Lupin out to the shrieking shack...

I'm not sure this matters, but I got the mp3 version of that scene from PoA... if anyone wants it, ask me. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to an mp3 file on the boards or not... if anyone knows that also, let me know lol. Thanks.

Erm...not sure...better leave that one to the mods!

Anyway...a thought occured to me...Lily wasn't really all that fussed on James until after the fifth year because we know that 'Snape's Worst Memory' occured after the end of the OWL's...and she certainly didn't like him then. Lupin seemed very quiet in that scene, the bookish-type, you know? Speaking from personal experience, I always used to go for the quiet one in a big group like that, just because they're usually the most approachable (what a terribly sweeping stereotypical thing to say...sorry... ). Maybe he caught Lily's eye first?

On the other hand, see it from Lupin's perspective - two of his best friends used his painful, traumatic affliction in order to get back at another student. If I were Lupin, I'd feel very hurt and furious that people who were supposed to be my best friends had used me like that...imagine if Lupin had killed Snape? How would he have felt about it afterwards? It could have scarred the poor guy for life! Maybe, after this incident, (whether it occured before or after the incident in 'Snape's W.Memory) Lupin went through a period where he was left feeling quite isolated from his friends.

Perhaps Lily noticed his distance and, although he might not have told her (actually, he probably didn't) about his being a werewolf, he might have told her enough for her to feel sympathetic towards him.

Anywho, I thought that whole thing was just mentioned in the film, I didn't think there was any hints along these lines in the book? **shrugs** But then I guess JKR allowed it to be included for a reason....who knows....

Oh gosh no, that's DEFINITELY NOT Lee Jordan!! Yes Lee Jordan was commentating in CoS and yeah he's the skinny one with the dreadlocks.

I was asking about the African kid coz I thought maybe he was one of the existing characters, but as it turns out, he is a nameless person that strangely got lines in POA...he appears as "Boy 1" (I think) in the credits. It's like "Slytherin Boy", the dude hanging out with Malfoy...but most of us are guessing he's Blaise Zabini.

I dunno who that african boy is, but he's lucky or what??

Anyway, I too had thought that Quidditch Cup is important to Harry. Didn't it says in the book that with the memory of winning the Cup would enable Harry producing the world best Patronus...

And I quote...:

" If there had been a Dementor around...as a sobbing Wood passed Harry the Cup, as he lifted it into the air, Harry felt he could have produced the world's best Patronus." : end quote.

Could they (film makers) have overlooked on this fact?

Isn't there meant to be something big revealed about Lily in the next book or something? What Raven said about Lupin being different and that although Harry resembles James so much, having Lily's eyes....perhaps that some kind of....argh, not foreshadowing, but you know what I mean, right?
I mean, up until now, all the emphasis has been on how Harry is like James, but from what we know of James in scholl, it isn't exactly an identical thing, is it? James wasn't exactly a...a lovely person, all the time, was he?

And as for any Remus/Lily shippers, I say wheeee!! I rather like the idea...it has a certain beauty to it...

Wasn't there same kind of reassurance about that in OotP? Oh god I'm gonna havta go get the book now...
Cos at first it worried me, but then I was reassured somehow....

Aha, yeah, Harry sneaks into Umbridge's office and talks with Sirius and Lupin through the fireplace,

"How come she married him?" Harry asked miserably "She hated him!"
"Nah, she didn't" said Sirius
"She started going out with him in the seventh year" said Lupin
"Once James had deflated his head a bit" said Sirius
"And stopped hexing people just for the fun of it" said Lupin
"Even Snape?" said Harry
"Well" said Lupin slowly, "Snape was a special case. I mean, he never lost an opportunity to curse James, so you couldn't really expect James to take that lying down, could you?"
"And my mum was okay with that?"
"She didn't know too much about it, to tell you the truth" said Sirius. "I mean, James didn't take Snape on dates with her and jinx him in front of her, did he?"
Sirius frowned at Harry, who was still looking unconvinced.
"Look," he said "your father was the best friend I ever had and he was a good person. A lot of people are idiots at the age of fifteen. He grew out of it."


Gah, I didn't mean to quote so much there, sorry...heh....but yeah, I don't think there's anything nasty and underhanded about their realationship, I think James just quit being quite so much of a jerk...

Hehehe, I think just for now I'll go into a decline in case it is Blaise....just cos I love that name and someone with that name can't be oogly, THE JUST CAN'T!!! *ahem*

I'm done now....

*declines*