lutsija
Nov 9 2005, 02:31 PM
i'm glad that you've finally added the next chapter. that was a good one (as always). I'm so nosy who is Phoenix and all those men (or boys?) and how would it all end. but on the other hand i don't want to end your story soon

. how much chapters left?
" Isn't it bad he tricked Arthur in believing him, telling it was Dumbledore's plan? He lied... "
-is it really true?
i hoped that they were still alive... oh...
but you've said (or someone have said you've said

) that it will all getting more and more clear now... so waiting for it.
and i hope that your daughter will be alright soon
MayIHaveYourChocolateFrogs - happy birthday!!!
gaburdette
Nov 9 2005, 07:44 PM
Well Flutters I do not know quite what to make of this chapter. It is not that I didn't like it, I did in fact, it's that I do not know what to make of the three mystery men. There is little doubt they appear to be Dumbledore and the two dead Weasleys but why the mystery. One even comments that Severus killed Dumbledore, speaking as if Dumbledore was not present.
I will have to reserve other comments to see where you are going with these three. So Narcissa is in the plan too. That just adds more to think about on this chapter.
So you blew off writing for us for a Vicki Vomit concert. I could have saved you a bunch of time and let you know that they most likely sounded exactly like what their name advertises. I think I read somewhere you are taking ten courses this term. Are you insane? I am suprised you even find time to sleep much less write for us. Take you time on the next chapters. You do have your hands full.
Greg
PS I also never realized Kingsley was black either until I started rereading OotP last week. I saw that part in the book and was like , "Wow!! How I have I missed that."
GinevraPotter
Nov 9 2005, 09:43 PM
Hullo there! I loved the new chapter- very clever about the three "mystery dudes".

I have my own guesses as to who they are, but I love to wait until it's revealed; this is such an excellent fic, and it somehow builds up the suspense more, if I don't come right out and ask questions. I let everyone else do that.

Particularly because they're all a lot more perceptive than I am. Oh well..I'd read this chapter right before I went to school this morning, and knew I wouldn't have time to write a decent review, so I saved it until later. Eagerly awaiting the next chapter, as always!
verilladaine
Nov 10 2005, 12:18 AM
interesting chapter! it forms theories that disable each other! you know what i mean... well! very good job on it by the way. all my theories cancel each other so i'm unable to say anything further. it's just... shacklebolt is bad... that isnt easy to take, but i see how it could be. we havent heard too much about him.
but it could be an even more furtive group that dumbledore formed...
and it could be a committie voldie assigned to do something...bad.
see, they cancel each other out. you want to think that shacklebolt is good, but he appears bad. you want to think they are bad because of severus... but he did go after the horcruxes. see? SEE? very good job on the tension. very good job indeed!
(this might be a private question but are you a snape fan?)
(another private question. do you go to uni as in university of northern iowa, like in cedar falls iowa?)
razzberry2
Nov 10 2005, 05:35 AM
Alright, here goes. I haven't read any of the other reviews so as not to taint my first impressions, but this is what I'm thinking...
Phoenix is eithe Dumbledore reborn from the ashes, and no longer known by the name of Dumbledore, or he is Aberforth. Kingsley, well it seems he's not a traitor, but has been in on all of this since the beginning, so he seems fairly straight forward. Now sparrow?? This is a young person, though at this stage I am merely guessing, but I think its a possibility its Bill, though for some reason his actions dont really ring true to me either. The ofcourse the fourth person may be Arthur, though again, I cant say you've given us enought to go on that would really link their personalities to who I am guessing they are. One crazy thought I had was that one of the people around the table was Regulus Black, but again, not too sure about that one either. And another possibility for Phoenix is Ollivander, for reasons stated in the first and fourth books.
So there it is, I'm probably incredibly wrong on atleast some of them, if not all of them, though I did give it a shot!! And I rather liked listening to their aftermath conversation, and I thought Kingsleys endulgent giggle over Snape having a girlfriend was rather amusing as I must admit, I sort of feel the same way.
Anyway, I hope we get to learn a bit more about what's going on in the next chapter, until then, hope your baby girl is doing much better now, and looking forward to the next installment.
Krieltje
Nov 10 2005, 05:19 PM
~lmao~ I also didn’t realise that shacklebolt was tanned, I knew someone of the order was but I didn’t knew it was Shacklebolt, no big mistake, could happen to anyone

let’s see, phoenix was the one with bleu eyes. DD had them, but like I said he isn’t DD. I still go for the theory that it’s Aberforth.
Yeah I guess it are nicknames, you’ve got something with birds haven’t you? (except for bumblebee, or it’s a bird I don’t know

) So why is Shacklebolt still Shacklebolt, I know you’ve got a reason for that… maybe because …. * I don’t know * think think think… (I know you’re grinning right now) because he’s also still an order member, but that wouldn’t make sense… would it?
Time out -
Bumblebee: you looked it up? That means JK described him in the book so he’s a known character.* checks comments and theories from others* urgh, nothing. Would I be totally wrong? Maybe sparrow isn’t Draco but Bill (thank you Razz)… and Bumblebee is Arthur, if that’s true Phoenix could be Dumbledore (order of the PHOENIX) Oh god, I’m so confused.
I think this theory makes more sense, you give them nicknames so we aren’t sure about who they are. I was wrong with the “wish your mother was here”, I thought they talked about Narcissa but I don’t see her busy with clothing, she would say buy a new one

Yeah, they were talking about Molly.
That would also make sense if you thought he was chubby, because Arthur was chubby in the CoS movie, but he lost some weight and now he isn't that chubby anymore

~lol~
Pheonix2Fire
Nov 11 2005, 10:43 PM
Hiya Flutters!
Sorry! I have been missing for about a week. I feel so bad. My family problems are still not resolved and it's getting to be a real pain.
I explained this to Razz as well, for her thread, and now I will tell you here.... I am close to being done with your chapters... (well the ones I missed). When I am finished with them completely, I promise that I will post and reply. Sorry it cannopt be done now.... I don't have time...

And now I have my own story to keep ontop of.... (YAY!)
Anyway.... to sum it up quickly, terrific chapters! -- I know it's not much but I'll elaborate more in my next post(s).
Thank you so much for your support! And I'll see you soon!!

-Pheonix
Flutterflie
Nov 12 2005, 09:17 AM
Hallo guys, and thanks for your comments. It's just that I do have trouble seeing, my eye is all swollen up, I can hardly type (well, I can type blindly, but I don't know if there are any mistakes).
Thanks Greg for nudging me. I wouldn't need it... but I am really feeling bad, I am not leaving bed, I am glad my boyfriend takes care of my daugter, he is jus so good with her, I thank god I have him!
I will of course update as soon as I can. The octor said it migt take two weeks for me to recover, but I hope it's faster. I can't miss university!!! By the way, my daughter is doing really good, so no more worries about her.
Take care, Nadja
Meggie
Nov 12 2005, 09:28 AM
Aww, Flutters, you need to feel better! Just wanted to let you know that your whole family is in my thoughts right now... I'll express mail you lots of chocolate and chicken noodle soup

Or wait... I think I may have already done that *can't remember

* Oh well, if I did, you're getting more
xoxo,
Meggie
bellatrixlestrange
Nov 12 2005, 09:32 AM
Hey Nadja,
Aww.

. You take your time, okay? You need rest and some time to recover. Your health is far more important than your fanfiction. Make sure you get enough rest and all healthy again and then in your own time you can post more if you like. Don't worry if anyone nags you to wrote more - you're ill (well your eyes are) and you can't be expected to do a lot of writing and typing.
I'm glad that Maiden Curly Crown is okay again.

You must appreciate your boyfriend so much right now- with him taking care of your little girl.

I know that he must be someone special.
It's a pity you can't go to University cause you're ill.
Okay, well, you rest up now, on bella-the-doctor's orders.
Get well soon,
Love,
Bella.
Flutterflie
Nov 12 2005, 07:10 PM
Okay, I am actually able to see with
both eyes just now. *sigh* Most of the pus slowly dripped out over the day... awe... I shouldn't have written that, it's gross. But then again, if you can picture how it looked, maybe you can guess how disgusting it felt. Ugh... and I couldn't do anything about it - after all, it's the eye... Well, at least it back to the size it had the day before yesterday... so I hope two more days and it will be back to normal. I actually thought I looked like Quasimodo with that face... *lol*
It freaked me out when the doctor told me it could take two weeks to fully recover. Well, I think I'll be faster. BUt replies now.
bellatrixlestrange: You are so right, my boyfriend really does help me out a lot. He actually called me about half an hour ago to ask me whether I was alright, because he would have come home to support me. I told him to stay at the birthday party. Until two years ago I never even thought men like this existed. *lol* What did I do to deserve him? I'm a *itch. *lol*
Meggie: *lol* I think you sent me noodle soup before. But I'll take the chocolate. *lol* It'll ruin my diet, though... But thanks anyway.
Pheonix2Fire: Awe, I really hope your family problems will resolve soon. You do have my compassion. So did you start your own fanfic? I guess I'll have to check it out later tonight, then.
gaburdette: *lol* Vicky Vomit was a pain in the a...rm. *cough* I left after about three songs, dragging my boyfriend along. Somebody left before, saying it wasn't quite his niveau... Well, Vicky said he wouldn't have a problem getting even lower. *sigh* Some things were funny, I have to admit. He is a comedian, not only a singer. I endured all that silly stuff about racism between eastern and western German people. But I had to go when he started making jokes about 9/11. Not my bag, baby...
fjkrs: Yeah, I have to add purple undies every now and then just to get you back to my story. *lol* I was laughing really hard about your comment about the crackpot old fools who were gossiping. No, not quite right, they were extremely worried about Severus.
And don't worry about Flutterflie talking to Sev and letting him go. You will see that ain't gonna happen. But I understand your worries. Just think about it, when you find out the person you most love is a murderer and you have the power to lock him up to keep him from being killed. Do you think you'd let him go? With the possibility he kills even more of your friends? You'd be guilty yourself, then...
And yes, I have used the three parts JK let Harry see in Snape's mind. The giggeling girl while Severus was on a broom, Severus sitting in a dark room, killing flies and then the time he witnessed his parents yelling at each other. Maybe you remember I added a few things to make his childhood even more miserable. I have been thinking about writing the story before SaB. I actually wanted to begin a fic with the chapter when Severus found his dead sister Serena and then left the house. Maybe I still can use it - I hope JoP still has it on her PC (I sent it to her before starting SaB), because mine got lost when the computer had all those viruses.. *sigh*
Krieltje: You are one clever cookie, aren't you? *giggles* I'm not gonna say 'yes' or 'no' to your theory. I am simply gonna say that Shacklebolt is an Order member, and Phoenix, Sparrow and Bumblebee aren't. Yes, Phoenix, Sparrow and also Robin are birds. Bumblebee is an insect, but still a creature that's flying. Not that it matters just now. So back to your conspiracy theory that the four men are actually good and are up to something... Well, who is Robin? And if Sparrow were Bill and Arthur were BUmblebee, why can't Molly be there? If Phoenix were Dumbledore, why would he trust Narcissa to keep quiet? Just a few questions that arose in my mind when I read your theory...
razzberry: Yet another one who believes in the Dumbledore/Bill/Arthur theory. *giggles* Wouldn't you guys juyt love it if they were still alive?
Funny you name Ollivander. I think I already said he'd make a return, didn't I? But which side would he be on? Hm...
verilladaine: Hehe, I see your trouble. I was hoping to get you in there. Just so many people are convinced that Snape is good they don't buy it the four man are bad. *lol*
You asked whether I am a Snape fan, and I am honest to tell you that I indeed like this character much, although I am not as obsessed with him as others are and I am pretty sure if the both of us would ever meet it'd be very unlikely both of us survived the rest of the day. *lol* So if you're trying to figure out whether I am capable of making him bad... I guess I could. But maybe you'll only start believing he is bad after he killed... whoops, I'd better keep quiet...

I have no idea about universities in the US, since I am German. I go to the TU Ilmenau; TU stands for 'Technische Universität', which means you can only choose subjects that involve engineering. I am studying to become an computer engineer, it takes at least 5 years to become one in Germany. And that is after going to school for 13 years.
GinevraPotter: Thanks. *lol* The 'three mystery dudes'! I'm laughing my arm off now!
lutsija: *lol* How many chapters left? Well, there's Beelzebub, The Attack, Jinx, Nevermore, Unforgivable, Rainbow Elixier, Failing Finja, Horcrux, The Last Stand and The Seventh Force. Did I miss one? So ten to go. Most of them will be splitted in parts as I use to do, but I'll try to put up The Last Stand and The Seventh Force in one piece, even if that means they're about 16 word pages. *lol* I guess I won't be done by Christmas... so no worries yet. *lol*
Yes, it is really really true. I see most of the others seemed to have missed that line. *lol* The whole thing was
not Dumbledore's plan, but Severus'.
Hehe, nobody yet was annoyed they said that Severus was the most powerful amoungst them. So how would that work if Phoenix was Dumbledore? *whistleinnocently*
Flutters
fjkrs
Nov 12 2005, 07:33 PM
hehe
Glad you are feeling better dahrling

I can picture your face with pus and all how very fun

Well im just glad you are getting better
I cannot wait to finish this fic its so darn good. Glad to know that Finja wont let Snape go hehe good thing or I would have to throw something at you hehe *insert evil laughter here*
Now that you mention it I do remeber you using three parts from Jk rowling well mainly the fly one....wow thats really cool haha
well your doing great and I hope you get better SOONER hehe
wellp bye love!
fjkrs
Pheonix2Fire
Nov 12 2005, 08:02 PM
Hiya Flutters!
Hope your feeling better! I know how it feels...
Thanks a bunch for your reply! It means alot to me. I am sorry that when I post, I don't really post much. I have yet to tackle your last chapter, which I will do instantly. And hopefully, I will post a reply, if not for every chapter I missed, then definately for your last. I promise!

Oh, and, it would be absolutely wonderful if you actually checked out my story. I am always open to new readers and new feedback. I give my respects to you.

Thanks for your support concerning my family problems. As I said to Razz, they're edging toward comppletion, and they'll be over soon. I appreciate your replies almost as much as I adore your installments!
I am currently off to finish your last chapter.... I'll post agian soon! See you later!, (Sorry for the kinda unhelpful and short post)....

-Jordan
lutsija
Nov 12 2005, 08:24 PM
hiya flutters!
i see you're in better mood now after reading your replies (thanks for a reply) and it raised my own mood a bit and after day i'm smilling a bit.

-reading all the post at this site especially happy ones. oh shame... it should be a great christmas present -the last capter of your story

but i guess you'll have a lot to do before christmas so i'll forgive you if you won't manage it *lol* i started to like severus within your fic and now you're telling me here he kill Arthur and Bill?

never mind, i don't trust you. i know i should, but i just ... can't. it's so sad.. and what about molly's feeling that tehy're still alive? was she just persuading herself? oh...
and one qustion... maybe i've just skip it, but what actually was wrong with your eye, Quasimodo?

no, i didn' mean it wrong you know

bfn and reply!
Flutterflie
Nov 12 2005, 08:47 PM
*lol*
Yeah, lusija, if I don't manage my fic until Christmas (which I doubt) I will record my favourite Christmas song for you and put it online - as a treat. *giggle* I will sing it in German, English and Latin. So now do whatever you choose. *laugh* Nudge me into writing faster or let me pick my own pace and listen to my singing. *lol*
I've been compared to Joan Baez and Patti Russo, so if you know either of them you can have a guess how my voice sounds. *lol*
And as for the last chapter... well, I seriously doubt you'd want to read it for Christmas because you'll probably not be in the mood...
Cheers, Flutters (off to start the next installment)
lutsija
Nov 12 2005, 09:27 PM
whoa, looking forward to it, really! could you manage to learn it in slovak till Christmas?

just to know what is it about as i don't speak german (danke, meine liebe dub ist schweine-i even don't know how to write it but that's all i know and don't take it personally

) and nor latin... i dunno those singers. you know what? i will nudge you into writing by the promise that if you won't
I will sing! and just then you'll all see a big fun! *grining*

oh yes, you're right i don't want sad christmas, sad today is enough i guess. some suitable datum for it... hm-hm-hm i can't think of any now.
yay, new photo

*lol* niiiiiiice
Flutterflie
Nov 12 2005, 11:42 PM
Hehe, I just had a ball going over some photographs and decided to change my siggy. Don't need to be reminded on Liesel's death all the time. *sigh*
So now that's me. *lol* All of them. *giggles* Is it bad?

Why does everybody know the word "Schwein" by the way? -> pig
I met a man in the US who greeted me "Friß meine Unterhose, Du Schweinehund!"-> Eat my underwaer, you pigdog!" I was like... WHAT? *giggle*
Well, you will understand the part I sing in English then, right? Hehe, how about a contest? Everybody tapes a Christmas song and then we'll see who was best! *giggles*
Flutters
xLovelizAx
Nov 13 2005, 02:52 AM
hey flutters!! sorry i haven't gotten to comment on your wonderful chapter yet *ashamed*
but first - you sing?! i do too.. actually i am learning a latin song right now for christmas, called
gaudette, i really like it, even though i don't understand what i am saying!!

and i have heard of patti russo, i'm sure your voice is wonderful

i'd really like to hear it!! and even though i'm 3/4 german i don't speak it *lol, more shame* my grandpa does though. and i like your signature, my own hair has gone through quite a transformation of it's own as well!! i haven't seen my natural hair color in.. about five years

lol
and now your fic!!
very interesting and confusing chapter!! hahaha just kidding, but stiil, i reaally like the sense of mystery surrounding this and the unknown characters!! so you say phoenix is an order member but the other three are not?? so i guess that shoots down the arthur-bill theory... and i seriously doubt phoenix is dumbledore, seeing as they were talking about him as if he wasn't there... but i could be wrong... but wait - one of them (i don't remember which one) said "snape killed dumbledore", and if phoenix WAS dumbledore, he wouldn't say he killed him if he was sitting right there!! ha!! sorry, i'm thinking as i go

so i think i am leaning towards alberforth with the others, mainly because of the "blue eyes"

and as for the other three... if they are
not order members... is one of them slughorn?? if i am wrong you will probably read this and think "she is out of her mind" but i don't know... he always seems a bit shady to me and din't you say you had to check the books about info on one so maybe... i don't know hahaha... but it is fun theorizing!! and i loved kingsley's reaction to snape having a girlfriend

priceless
there was more that i was going to say i believe, but i can't remember right now!! gosh, that is such an irritating feeling!!

well i hope your eye continues to return to normal!! you poor thing!! can't wait for the next chapter!!
EDIT: wait you said phoenix was NOT an order member so yeah... nevermind about alberforth then hahaha but then
who could it be???!!! lol so many questions!
<33
Pheonix2Fire
Nov 13 2005, 03:05 AM
Hallo Flutters!
Wie geht alles? Ich hoffe, dass die Kapitel gut gehen, und dass wir lang werden nicht warten müssen. Ich mag Ihre Unterschrift. Es ist sehr schöpferisch. Errate ich sie, dass alle in einem verschiedenen Zeitraum stattfinden? Habe ich Recht? Zuerst haben Sie schwarzes Haar dann schwarz mit blonder Farbe, schaltet dann es zurück zu Schwarz. Sehr phantasiereich ich muss sagen.. ... zurück zu Englisch.
Okay there you go Flutters! That was my extremely horrible English to German translation. Hope you liked it.

If my words are indecipherable, here is what I meant to say:
Hello Flutters!
How is everything going? I hope that the chapters are going well and that we will not have to wait long. I like your signature. It is very creative. I am guessing they all take place in a different time period? Am I right? First you have black hair then black with blond color, then it switches back to black. Very imaginative I must say... Now back to English...
I tried to post and I wrote an extremely long reply..... then my darn computer powered off. I am mad like a
Scheißen!

I am so angry. You have no Idea.
And on top of everything else, I am now grounded, becuase of school!!! Arggghhh! I am no longer allowed on VTM and/or the computer for a week. I have so much to do though.... including my story. I hate myself! I am going to try and log on at school, but there are no garrauntees.

Please help me out , and tell this to Razz. I won't be able to, judging by the fact that I'm can't be on... Sorry to burden you, but I don't see any other way. Thank you so much Nadja! I feel so terrible. I feel as if I am letting your fic go along with Razz's.... noooo... I am not. It's just that things aren't really going on my side at the moment. ---- My family problems were sooo close to being resolved.... and now this!!!! GGGRRRRRR!!!! Help Me!!!
Sorry! I will post as soon as all this is over. I I just wbat you to know that I am still here, even if you can't see my posts!! I hope I don't upset you!? Sorry....
That is all I have time for. But thank you for your support and I hope I will be able to post again sooner rather than later..... Thanks!
-Jordan
EDIT: I will try and tell razz also by posting this reply... thanks
Krieltje
Nov 13 2005, 09:55 AM
Hey Nad!
very cool siggy! Love it

Hopefully you're doing better now, it's terrible when a pet passes away. I've had some jackdaws and one of them flew against the neighbours window, which caused him death. I still can see the neighbours standing at our door with a little box

Luckily that's the only one I can remember. Alright, happier thingies

so phoenix, sparrow and bumblebee aren't order member *grumble* before I can continue with my theory I need to know if they ever been order members

. Molly can't be with them because the men are up to something that she wouldn't agree with (don't ask me what, I haven't figured that out yet). Why would DD trust narcissa to keep quiet? well, Dumbledore always has been to good of trust, and maybe Narcissa is desperate because of lucius and draco, and she'll do anything to keep them alive (maybe it's part of the plan?)
Hope to read another one of your fascinating chapters soon

Hugs, Marieke
Flutterflie
Nov 13 2005, 01:38 PM
*lol*
Krieltje: Yeah, had to change that siggy. I don't know if you've seen the one I had for half a day before that - it contained a pic of Liesel. But it made me sad all the time, so I decided to do something funny instead.

*lol*
Now you want to know whether they've even been Order members. Why don't you ask me right away: are the evil or good? *lol*
And as for the next chapter: I've just started writing it, so maybe I can get it done by tonight, depends on whether it'll be a long or a short one. I'll see... I know I'll definitely have something up by Monday night - and you can send me frowny faces if I don't, Mr. Deadline. *giggles*
Pheonix2Fire: Sorry, I haven't gotten round to reading any fic yet, but I will catch up soon, promise.
What you meant to say:
Wie geht's so? Ich hoffe, daß es mit den Kapiteln gut läuft und daß wir nicht zu lange warten müssen. Ich mag Deine Sig. Sie ist sehr kreativ. Ich rate mal, daß sie (die Bilder?) zu unterschiedlichen Zeiten gemacht wurden. Habe ich Recht? Erst hast Du schwarze Haare, dann schwarz mit blonder Färbung, dann wechselt es wieder zu schwarz. Sehr phantasievoll, muß ich sagen. Jetzt aber wieder zurück zu Englisch... *giggles*
But I understood what you meant to say. I know German is difficult. I'd really love to know the thoughts my English teacher had when he corrected my first essays. *lol* I always had a 'D'. *chuckles* And about the hair colour. ell, I guess it doesn't really show in the scans. The first one is bright red, the second one some kind of reddish blonde with my dark roots already showing, the third picture is my original colour - some kind of chocolate brown - and the last one is a recent pic with jet black hair. I wish I would have found one of those redhead pix with curls - nobody realized it was me. *sigh* Need to go find them...
I know exactly how you feel, my mom would ground me from horseback riding when I had bad marks. *sigh* That really hurt - and made me scared just before the next test...
xLovelisAx: You should really have your grandpa teach you! It's always good to know a different language, and after all, it's not only
some language, but your roots. Mudblood! *stickouttongue* Only joking! Hehe. Yeah, the haircolour thingy... oh well, I started dyeing when I was fourteen, so that's... um... ages ago. *lol* 12 years. I only stopped dyeing in my pregnancy, because it's not good for the child. When I had stopped nursing my girl, I continued my life as a redhead. *giggles* But when I met my boyfriend, I knew it had to be black or he wouldn't even realize me. *lol* So thank god, black really suits me, probably better than red anyways. Change your avatar! Let me see you! *lol* After all, that's what avatars are for - not for hiding behind some Harry Potter pic! Really! I am glad gaburdette and Krieltje have started showing their true faces. We might as well continue.
I might have the Aberforth question answered in the next installment, hopefully tonight.

Okay, keep on nudging me to write, I need it. *lol* Hope to be able to update a few pages tonight! See you then,
Flutters
Krieltje
Nov 13 2005, 07:22 PM
Wow, finally I can reply something

I tried 10 times and it just didn't work.
Yeah saw your other siggy with Liesel and I know what you mean, everytime you see it, it reminds you of her *sigh*.
| QUOTE |
| Now you want to know whether they've even been Order members. Why don't you ask me right away: are the evil or good? |
~lol~ I hoped you drank some wine and had a loose tongue by now, I hoped I could trick you with that question

too bad it failed. I'll be online later tonight, so I'll see if you posted a new chapter than

Btw, I hope to have my own notebook back within a week from now, I already got the bill

it needs a new motherboard *sigh*.
Hey, where did the reply button go

I can't click on it, now I'm starting to get frustrated.
xLovelizAx
Nov 13 2005, 11:16 PM
ah i know!! i should have my grandpa teach me

it would be more fun than learning spanish for two years in high school lol
and i will get an avitar, i 1) have to figure out how to do it *lol* and 2) find a pic of me to get up there... i have paint shop pro 9 so i can make icons and stuff and i want to make one of me but make it all pretty-like, so once i do i will upload it for sure!! i love that 3rd pic on yours especially.. looks like you were having fun there

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Meggie
Nov 14 2005, 12:33 AM
Ah, Nadja, I'm enjoying your siggy quite a bit

I don't think I could ever dye my hair so many different colors. I was thinking about going red temporarily... as in for like two days. I would decide that I wanted my old hair back too quickly. Hmm, now I'm tempted to put my picture in my avvie, but I don't know... I'm a fan of my Peter Pan one

Also I'm a fan of your story. So hurry up! Haha, take your time. Just know that I'm sitting here nudging you to update.
Cheers!
Meg
Flutterflie
Nov 14 2005, 11:52 AM
Awe, I had a reply done, but I couldn't send it earlier this morning.
So now I'm just here to tell you that I have a five page sketch ready and that I'm most likely to bring some of it online tonight. I'm not happy with Phoenix for now, he's not as strong as I want him to be, and also Harry isn't Harry just now, it definitley needs working over.
Do you guys have any idea how hard it is to come up with decent house-elf names? *sigh*
Well, the two I have now are Krieltje-approved, so if you dislike them you know where to complain. *giggles*
Will you be mad at me if I kill off some more main characters?
Flutters
lutsija
Nov 14 2005, 02:03 PM
i haven't time to read all the relplies so maybe i won't now what's going on. but i read the last line of yours (don't worry, some othe lines too

)and noooooooooooooooo! i don't want anyone dead.

i'm still sad of arthur and bill a little

. not that i'm not thinking of anything else, just that i was really sure that they're alive.
ok, kill them you murderer
no, no sorry. i mean... if your story needs to...
p.s.: i edited my last post a bit. it should be "if you won't i will sing" not "if you want i will sing". it's ok now, i edited it. honestly, who normall would want me to sing?

well... i heard some worse, i'm not THAT bad really, but still... well don't want to hear it. but it seems that you could sing, so i'm waiting that on christmas i'll find in my mail post a little e-mail with a song!

ok?
that's terrible. i don't have allowed internet now (dunno until when) so i don't know when i'll be able to read the next installement. i'm not home now. but i guess that i could go here and read it here.
take care!
lucia - lutsija
...and yes, cool siggy

...and (this is really the end) - what's wrong that everyone knows schweine? it's better than nobody knows it's SVIŇA here
Meggie
Nov 14 2005, 02:04 PM
I'm never mad at you

I'd rather all the characters stayed alive, but if they need to die for the fic, I'm okay with it. After all, it's fan
fiction, and I can still hope that Jo won't be as cruel as you are in HP7

Haha, and I do know how hard it is to come up with decent house elf names; this is why I didn't mention a name for the latest one in my fic
xoxo,
Meggie
gaburdette
Nov 14 2005, 02:05 PM
| QUOTE (Flutterflie) |
| Will you be mad at me if I kill off some more main characters? |
You probably know how I will answer this so well leave it at that. No wait, are we talking one Severus Snape? That would be ok then! But I will say it is your story and write it the way you want to. Do not let us force you into writing it different than you want.
I hope your eye is doing better. If I had known that I would not have given you the nudge. Post the next chapter when you can and have it worked out the way you want.
Greg
PS That is some new signature. The different hair styles makes it seem almost as if it is a picture of four different people. My hairstyle has not changed in twenty years. You can look at pictures of me in 9th grade and I look the same as today only slightly older. Well maybe a little more than slightly.
purebloodprincess3339
Nov 14 2005, 02:28 PM
Augh! I'm gone for a few days and look what happens!
Okay, I loved the three men scene. It was totally awesome! There was an aura of mystery, intrigue and doubt, that really got to me.
Yeah, I definitely do think that Pheonix is Dumbledore. Robin has to be Molly Weasley. It just fits her and who else in the books is known for her cooking? So I guess that's why I feel like maybe Bill and Arthur are back. It would work if Robin is Molly. Besides, I think that maybe Bumblebee being Arthur could mislead you to think round belly...
What could convince Narcissa to be quiet? Something about Draco maybe? After her scene in HBP I'm almost convinced that she'd do anything to help him.
Don't give me too much info, but please answer as much as you can!
-Roxy
P.S. Love the new siggy. Wish my hair had that many styles that I could actually put it in...
Edit: Wait! New theory! I recently read something about Dumbledore being an old English word for *drumroll* Bumblebee! Oh, no! Now I'm all confused!
Flutterflie
Nov 14 2005, 04:28 PM
Awe, I've only gone for like three hours, and look what happened. *lol* Four replies... *giggles*
Well, if you're so eager in replying for now here's something to ponder on:
What do you think will happen in the next installment? (I know I already told you about Harry and Phoenix and two house-elves) Theories?
Oh, Krieltje, sorry, can't let you join, cause I already
told you. *giggle*
purebloodprincess3339: If Arthur were Bumblebee, Bill Sparrow and Molly Robin - why would he say he wished Sparrow's mother were there? That's not working for me...
gaburdette: Good to know. *giggles* But killing off Snape would be to easy for now, wouldn't it? All problems solved... *chuckle* But now worries - I won't kill anybody in "Beelzebub".
Meggie: You know what? I think Jo will be a lot crueler than I am now. But you will see. And the house-elves... oh well, after double- and tripple-checking, I figured Slinky wouldn't make a good name. *lol* Because 'slink' (like not being able to walk normally) and 'slinky' (like seductive) in terms of meaning are not related. I'll have to tell my mom who calls a cat that keeps visiting her "Slinky" - he only has three legs and no tail... *giggle* Very slinky...
lutsija: Yeah, I need to do it. Sorry. Krieltje will hate me. Well, for a while, I guess. *sigh*
And I know SVINA and the way you pronounce it. *giggles* My sister is called Svenja... and well.. *cough* we use it to tease her. Hehe. It matches her perfectly... even though at table my daughter insist she's a little piggy, also.
Okay, I'm back with my installment now. I just have to let you know I'll have to make two red crosses in my calender.
Firstly this was the first time ever I enjoyed a class involving maths, and I was hooked from the first second till the very end - 90 minutes pure concentration in 'computergraphics'. I guess I will now break down all my calculation to a matrix. *lol* Not that I haven't been using matrixes for years, but today it was really intriguing what you can actually
do with them.

Secondly, the gas prices are back to normal! YAY! I paid 1,19 EUR for a liter gas. That's.. let me calculate... a gallon would be 4,50 EUR, thus 5,28$... wow... I can remember when I lived in the US six years ago, a gallon would be like 79 cent. How much is it now?
Flutters
Meggie
Nov 14 2005, 04:47 PM
I remember 79 cent gas... wow, that was ages ago. It's around $2.50 here right now depending on where you live. It was over three dollars for a while at the end of the summer and I about cried. If gas was $5.28 here, I would be horrified. Although I don't have to drive anymore because Chicago has the El and the subway for that. Thank god.
Cheers!
Meg
Flutterflie
Nov 14 2005, 09:34 PM
Beelzebub (part two)
“It’s useless,” Harry said in a frustrated manner and sat up straight in his bed. He had been pondering about the past few days, but as he had expected, he hadn‘t come to a conclusion - just like the other times he had been contemplating within the last month. The whole situation was so difficult, and for now he could neither decide what to do nor what to think.
Cautiously, Harry felt around for his glasses in the dark and rose to his feet after he had retrieved them from his bedside table.
Only Ron’s steady-going snores disrupted the peaceful stillness of the dormitory when Harry made his way to the door, trying hard to avoid any noise that could wake up his fellow students.
His wristwatch told him it was just past twelve ‘o clock, but the boys had gone to bed early, knowing a tough day lay ahead. There were only four months left until they would take their NEWTs, and teachers were pressing them hard.
It had been quite a while since Harry had actually enjoyed his transfiguration classes. Tonks seemed to put some extra effort into training him up - just like she thought it would help him in his final combat against Voldemort, which Harry seriously doubted. How could it possibly come in handy to change into a dusty mirror when Death Eaters were throwing curses at you?
All of the teachers appeared to have lost their spirits ever since Arthur and Bill had died. Well, Slughorn didn’t take it too seriously, Harry told himself, for he had, as a matter of fact, told Ron to cheer up, which he found was most improper under those circumstances. But the others clearly felt for the two Weasley children and tried to comfort them whenever they could.
Professor Flitwick was extraordinarily indulgent with Ron not handing in his homework, and McGonagall had a stern look upon her face at all times, just like Tonks, who seemed to be incapable of smiling lately.
Flutterflie wasn’t doing well either. She still had the wound across her chest, and it started bleeding whenever she got upset - which happened pretty often these days. Obviously, Harry was the only one who couldn’t be fooled by her perfect disguise, but that didn’t keep him from being awfully worried about her. He had tried to talk to her each and every time he had met Finja at her office - but all she would say was ’Occlumency, Harry, that’s what you’re here for’.
Harry had seen quite a change in her personality during the last weeks. Not only had she kept her promise to lock Snape up; Finja had also taken all his pictures off the wall and totally neglected to talk about Severus, which only proved how disappointed she was in him.
This didn’t really make it easier on Harry, who hadn’t yet decided about Snape‘s true loyalty. He had tried in vain to figure it out. Somehow he had the feeling this was just like a mosaic, it would be one picture once he had been able to put the pieces together. If only he found two matching pieces for a start!
Harry slowly continued through the room soundlessly, but when he had almost reached the door, his foot hit the corner of a trunk and he suppressed a curse. Neville usually woke up with the gentlest noise, and for a second Harry stood transfixed, almost awaiting his friend to sit up in his bed. But he was lucky tonight; Neville only grunted in his sleep.
Carefully, Harry opened the door and slid through the gap. A few steps down a dark staircase, and he entered the deserted common room. Flames were still dancing in the fireplace, which surprised him; but then again, the house-elves were probably cleaning at night time and needed it warm. McGonagall wouldn’t have them work in a cold room wearing a tea cosy only, Harry considered. It really was freezing these days. But then again, it still was February.
Sighing, Harry fell into his favourite armchair by the fireplace. He needed to straighten out the muddle in his mind. But how to do it? Not that he hadn’t tried before!
But somehow the way he was doing it didn’t seem to lead him anywhere, and Harry was wondering if he should try an - for him - unusual manner. How would Hermione do it?
Harry thought for a while then, remembering her sketch on the blackboard, he conjured up a notepad and a quill. Being a wizard is not too bad, he thought. It would have been tedious if he’d have to run up to the dormitory again and get it himself. He’d most likely wake up Neville, and he didn’t want to explain what was going on with him just now.
Harry stared at the piece of parchment. How to start? What was his first priority? Find out about everybody’s loyalty, a voice in his head said. He scribbled “Supporter of the Order” and “Supporter of Voldemort” on top, then listed a few names underneath. Hermione, Ron, Lupin, Tonks, McGonagall, Flutterflie and he himself definitely were supporters of the order. He thought for a moment, then added Sirius. Yes, his godfather had broken the order’s law, but he meant to stop a man he considered a villain. Sirius was definitely supporting the order.
After a few minutes time, Harry decided to create another row, entitled ‘losses’ and sighing added Arthur, Bill and Dumbledore underneath Sirius.
With the second column, it was more difficult. Lucius Malfoy clearly was supporting Voldemort, and so were Bellatrix Lestrange and Peter Pettigrew. But what about Draco? And his mother? She still hadn’t said a single word about the incident at Knockturn Alley. But she had been there, in a Death Eaters robes.
Harry added Draco and Narcissa Malfoy underneath Pettigrew, but put an question mark behind their names. One could never be too careful…
It was useless to list Greyback, Avery and all the other Death Eaters. He never doubted their loyalty. But what about Snape and Shacklebolt?
Harry sighed again and scribbled both names in between the columns. He had thought Kingsley was a faithful member of the order. But why the strange behaviour at Knockturn Alley? It had almost seemed that Shacklebolt had tried to keep the others from the fight. And later he had kneeled over Arthur’s corpse alongside with Narcissa - without even attempting to arrest her.
Then Snape… he had killed Dumbledore and the Weasleys… but he had also helped them with the horcuxes and planned to destroy the fifth one himself, risking his life once more.
Harry had always thought Severus had done it for Finja - but he had learned she was more than frustrated about his behaviour, so Flutterflie couldn’t really be his motivation. He would have known what to do if he had wanted to please her; after all, he had known her for all his life.
So which side was Snape really on?
The memory Harry had caught after the Defence lesson showed in his mind again - Snape’s memory. A thought he had wanted to share with Finja to calm her down when she yelled at him a few weeks ago. But she hadn’t seen it. She had been to furious to realize. Harry found it ironic that she herself got entangled with her emotions, when all she had ever tried was to teach Harry to do it differently. But she was human, after all.
This very memory had occupied Harry for quite a while. Who was that tall man in golden robes talking to Severus? He had seemed to be Dumbledore, just… really old, shrunken looking and worn out. And both his hands were unscathed. The man in Snape’s memory had rather looked like than the man in Finja’s vision; the one who sat beside her, cradling a baby in pink blankets.
When Harry had first seen the vision, he had thought it was Dumbledore. But now he wasn’t so sure anymore. He knew those wary eyes, the faint smile. But it surely wasn’t the same Dumbledore Harry had known for so long!
And there was this feeling of helplessness again! He hadn’t been able to comfort either Ron or Ginny over the last weeks, and he hadn’t been able to solve the riddle regarding Snape either. There was nobody here who bothered to help him.
Harry felt his anger rise inside. If only they would consider him an adult and let him in on their thoughts! But no, ickle Harry had to be kept from any danger that was about to threaten him!
With a frustrated growl, he threw the piece of parchment into the flames. It caught fire immediately.
“Burn!” he spat angrily. “Burn along with Snape and Finja! Burn with all those who neglect to talk to me!”
It just occurred Harry that he really was annoyed with Finja’s behaviour when he called out her name. She had been the only one who had always shared her thoughts with him, she had comforted him and treated him as an equal. But now that he needed her help she was not talking to him. It was unfair!
“Burn, Finja!” he hissed defiantly, even though it made him feel guilty.
A gentle pull on his sleeve made Harry jump.
“Harry Potter must not speak ill about Professor Flutterflie,” the curious looking creature in front of him said firmly.
“Oh, Dobby,” Harry breathed out in relief. He had been quite addled when he felt somebody touch him.
“It’s just… There are so many questions, and they don’t tell me… I am so angry - I don’t know what to do!” he explained himself, knowing this was not really an excuse to curse a teacher.
The house-elf gave him a pitiful look.
“Maybe Dobby can help Harry Potter?” he offered faithfully.
Harry gazed at him and slowly shook his head. He remembered other times Dobby had been trying to help him…
“Oh, no, I don’t think so,” he said in a low voice.
Dobby nodded understandingly and remained silent, only staring back at Harry with his huge eyes. It made Harry feel uncomfortable, but still he couldn’t simply brush the house-elf off. So in a weak attempt to start some smalltalk, he asked how Kreacher was doing.
“Oh, Kreacher has changed so much, ever since…” Dobby stopped an bit his lip. Harry knew that guilty look upon the house-elves face and felt the urge to investigate.
“Since when?” he demanded firmly.
He hadn‘t cared too much about Kreacher ever since he returned after Dumbledore‘s death and wondered what kind of trouble he could possibly have caused over the last month, without his old master taking care of him.
“Ever since Professor Snape spoke to him,” Dobby finished his sentence quietly and squinted down to his rather dirty feet. His discomfort was clearly showing in his face, and it definitely alarmed Harry.
“Mr. Snape, Dobby!” he corrected casually and pressed on, “What did Mr. Snape say?”
Dobby cast him a baffled look and frowned.
“Professor Mr. Snape says,” he straightened up and continued in a much deeper voice, ”‘House-elves of the noble Black family do not sneak around and spy. House-elves of the noble Black family obediently serve and take their orders faithfully. Only scum behaves like you do, Kreatcher. Your loyalty now rests with the school, neither with the Lestranges, nor the Malfoys. If you ever befoul the name of your family again, I shall send you back to Grimmauld Place where you can do dear Sirius’ biding.’“ Dobby relaxed again and continued in his usual fashion. „And Kreacher bows, says ‘Yes, master‘ and… ” he broke into a triumphant smile, “changed into the most faithful house-elf Harry Potter can imagine.”
“I don’t understand,” Harry said puzzled, shaking his head.
“Dobby does not understand either,” the house-elf admitted and shrugged his shoulders. “But Dobby is glad he does not have to worry about Kreacher anymore.”
“When did Snape tell Kreacher?” Harry demanded, his face in a frown. “I mean, it must have been after Dumbledore’s death. Kreacher always showed his worst side before…”
“Yes, sir,” Dobby agreed.
“But why didn’t you tell anybody?” Harry was utterly amazed by the house-elf‘s behaviour. He clearly hadn‘t expected Dobby to keep something as important to himself, but he found it even more curious, that the house-elf didn‘t seem to understand he had been doing wrong.
“Tell what?” Dobby asked, obviously confused.
“That Snape was in the castle!” Harry called out. He had always known that Dobby was a little slow in understanding things once in a while, but this was really peculiar. Why wasn‘t the house-elf scared in Snape‘s presence?
“Why should Dobby do such thing?” came the innocent reply.
“Because everybody in the wizarding world wants Snape in Azkaban!” Harry spat. He was losing his temper about those silly questions.
“Professor McGonagall told Dobby to do everything the way he did when Dumbledore was headmaster,” the house-elf declared calmly. “Dumbledore trusted Professor Mr. Snape, and so Dobby trusts Professor Mr. Snape.”
“But Snape killed Dumbledore!” Harry called out. What was the matter with this house-elf? Had somebody meddled with his memory?
“And Professor Dumbledore asked Professor Mr. Snape to!” Dobby stated grimly, then started banging his head against the wall without any warning.
“Dobby should not have said that!” he cried out. “Bad Dobby!”
“Hey, calm down, please!” Harry grabbed the house-elf’s shoulder and pulled him back. “You will wake the others!”
Dobby sighed deeply and stepped back.
“Dobby is sorry, sir,” he mumbled, bowing down.
“What is it you were going on about?” Harry shook his head. “Dumbledore told Snape to kill him? Why did you say that?”
“Because it is true! Dobby never tells lies! Only… only Professor Dumbledore told Dobby not to tell anybody. But Professor Dumbledore is gone, and Dobby does not know if he may tell Harry Potter now.”
Harry gazed at the house-elf with a stern expression on his face.
“Dobby, I need to know the truth. I need to know which side Snape is on! Tell me! What did you overhear? What do you know?”
The house-elf remained silent for a while as though he was deliberating about telling Harry or not. With a deep breath, he finally continued.
“Professor Mr. Snape is not an honest man, Dobby knows. But Professor Mr. Snape has always been loyal to Dumbledore, from the moment he was sent away to the Death Eaters.”
“Do you mean from the time after the Triwizard tournament? When Dumbledore sent Snape back to Voldemort?”
“No, sir,” Dobby was jumping from one foot onto the other, obviously feeling uncomfortable.
“What do you mean, Dobby?” Harry nudged him on. He was onto something, he could feel it. Maybe this was the missing piece in his mosaic.
“Professor Dumbledore says Professor Mr. Snape never let him down, from the moment he sent them to the Death Eaters twenty years ago.”
Harry held his breath. Did that mean Snape had been a spy for Dumbledore all along? But no, that couldn’t be possible!
“Professor Dumbledore says nobody knows about this. Not a soul, he says. And Professor Dumbledore is proud Professor Mr. Snape keeps the secret all these years and carries his weight without complaining. Professor Dumbledore says Professor Mr. Snape will give the information to destroy Vol… Vol…”
“Voldemort?” Harry suggested, his heart beating faster.
Dobby nodded, his eyes wide with fear.
“But nobody must know, Harry Potter, sir. If Dobby tells anybody, Professor Mr. Snape will be killed. And Professor Dumbledore says he needs Professor Mr. Snape by his side in the final combat.”
“But I don’t understand…” Harry said, shaking his head. Why would Dumbledore ask Snape to kill him, and then say they would fight Voldemort together? He had told Harry it was his task to defeat Voldemort - the prophecy clearly stated it. So what did Dumbledore mean?
“Dobby does not understand either. Professor Dumbledore says he wants Professor Mr. Snape by his side when he faces Vol… demort. But Professor Dumbledore is dead. Does that mean…” Dobby held his head slightly to the side. “Does that mean Professor Dumbledore wants Professor Mr. Snape dead, too?”
to be continued...
verilladaine
Nov 14 2005, 10:25 PM
WOW! what kind of wonderful chapter was that?! you really write well, i must congradulate you. now... dumbledore is definitely alive. i have no idea how but he is... or so you make us think. now we knew all along that snape was faithful. now we refer to the three weird people. yes, they are somehow related with Bill and Arthur, since Arthur did send away the clock, apparently to conceal the death of family members. oh... i cont write anymore! i change my mind with every new thing i write!
hey this chapter is far from imperfect! yeah you had a couple of typos but i think it's best chapter you have written so far.
xLovelizAx
Nov 14 2005, 10:48 PM
aww i thought i was going to be first to reply..

oh well, second is still ok with me

| QUOTE |
| All of the teachers appeared to have lost their spirits ever since Arthur and Bill had died. Well, Slughorn didn’t take it too serious, Harry told himself, for he had, as a matter of fact, told Ron to cheer up, which he found was most improper under those circumstances. |
aha!! i
knew something was weird with slughorn!! i still think he was one of the three men talking with kingsley... even if it is way off lol

| QUOTE |
| He had tried to talk to her each and every time he had met Finja at her office - but all she would say was ’Occlumency, Harry, that’s what you’re here for’. |
oh i had completely forgotten that harry was still doing occlumency!! *duh eliza*
| QUOTE |
This very memory had occupied Harry for quite a while. Who was that tall man in golden robes talking to Severus? He had looked like Dumbledore, just… really old, shrunken looking and worn out. And both his hands were unscathed. The man in Snape’s memory had rather looked than the man in Finja’s vision; the one who sat beside her, cradling a baby in pink blankets. When Harry had first seen the vision, he had thought it was Dumbledore. But now he wasn’t so sure anymore. |
oooh i had completely forgotten about this baby too!! i wonder what is the deal with the old man and who is this baby?? is it a vision from the future? i remember you saying not all of finja's visions are true or sometimes they aren't from the future... i wonder if this baby/vision will come into play... and if it looks like dumbledore... but not the dumbledore that harry knew... then maybe it is like LOTR kind of?? he will come back reborn or something??
| QUOTE |
| where you can do dear Sirius’ biding.’“ Dobby relaxed again and continued in his usual fashion. „And Kreatcher bows, says ‘Yes, master‘ and… ” he broke into a triumphant smile, “changed into the most faithful house-elf Harry Potter can imagine.” |
interesting, that is so unlike kreatcher to actually obey someone who tells him to stop serving the lestranges and malfoys...humm
| QUOTE |
| “But nobody must know, Harry Potter, sir. If Dobby tells anybody, Professor Mr. Snape will be killed. And Professor Dumbledore says he needs Professor Mr. Snape by his side in the final combat.” |
oh goodness... what does
this mean?! *lol* is dumbledore alive?? is snape dead?? aaahhh so many questions, i love it!!

and i love how dobby calls him "professor mr. snape" lol so like dobby!!
well this was a very intriguing chapter here... lots of answers but also new questions... snape went over to the dark side origionally under dumbledore's orders?? well that certainly makes me wonder.... gosh i love your story flutters!! it makes me think way more than school ever did!! *lol*
gas prices... yeah it seems like so long ago that they were under $1... but i'm just happy to have them back at $2.39, back in september when katrina and rita hit, they were up around $4 here in houston!! geeze, what is this world coming to...

well i can't WAIT for the next chapter now!! great job, i didn't even notice hardly any spelling/grammar mistakes
<33
GinevraPotter
Nov 14 2005, 11:48 PM
Wow! This chapter is probably one of the most powerful I've ever read! I didn't want it to end.

You never let us forget for a moment that Harry, no matter how brave or strong he is, is still human- that he makes mistakes, that he says and does stupid things sometimes. That's part of what makes this story so real to all of us.
Dobby was a great touch- "Professor Mr. Snape", an excellent Dobbyism- a tiny bit of his weirdness, combined with the powerful secret he revealed to Harry- I can't think of any other better way for Harry to have found out!

Even if it was kind of random! I'd been wanting to hear from Dobby, anyway.
As for Severus spying for the Death Eaters, this has always been my own personal conviction- that the alleged "double crosser" has been double crossing Voldemort himself! I do like the whole theory behind it, and you brought it to light in an extraordinary way.
Fantastic chapter- things are progressively getting more intense about exactly who is on what side, and I'm loving every second of it.
Cheers!
Meggie
Nov 15 2005, 07:07 AM
Mmmm hmmm... so Kreacher listens to Snape... Yup yup, that is deifinitely interesting. I think I get what's going on. This was an awesome chappie, Nadja - very enlightening. I'll be back with a longer post and my beta hat in the morning. Not that this really needs beta-ing. But whatever.
Cheers!
Meggie
bubotuber_pus
Nov 15 2005, 07:23 AM
Flutters, you had a great idea about Snape being faithful to DD all the time! there is a quote in OotP that Snape
rejoined the Order before LV's downfall what makes me think that either he was working for DD, then went to LV and came back to DD or he was working for DD all the time, allowing himself to burn the Dark Mark and all.
I liked this chapter very much, you needn't have worried, it was great
What was a laugh was Harry who corrected Dobby to say "Mr Snape" about Snape and then poor Dobby was saying "Professor Mr Snape"

. I just hope that Snape and Finja won't burn as Harry wished them to...
It's interesting what you meant about DD. Maybe he, together with Aberforth, switched? Huh?
Flutterflie
Nov 15 2005, 09:03 AM
Just a quick one - Krieltje - *lol*.
No, it was not a good idea to split it, because now everybody thinks Snape is good. They didn't get to read the things Phoenix has to say about him, see. So I will have to bug with comments like 'man, first you made him good, now you made him bad again - can't you just make up your mind, girl?' now. *giggles* Again...

All we know for sure is that Snape
was good when he joined the DE at first. Don't go any further, you haven't seen into the deepth of his mind yet.

Flutters, off to uni now *wave*
Flutterflie
Nov 15 2005, 08:03 PM
Hm, only six replies... *sigh* You've spoiled me too much, now I am frustrated, thinking it's not good anymore... oh man... *sigh* But I guess you're all busy now and it's not that you disliked it... hm... JoP is at school, sillywalker probably busy practising the violine, Phoenix grounded, Fawkesy hasn't been around for a while, I guess she's busy with her child... fjkrs only drops by once in a while... keepstar has to catch up with tons of stories... razzberry - hm... ill? kids? busy writing? ... gaburdette is not online - he usually is at this time of day, maybe he takes a well-deserved vacation?

Who else is missing still? What about the new readers? Chocolate, Princess_Celtic_Jewel, El Cheeser Puff? Who else did I forget? Scream HERE and show yourself! *giggle*
Krieltje: Oh, I already replied to your comment. Hehe.
bubotubber_pus: No, Finja and Snape will not burn, I promise. Hehe. Finja controlls the fire, I guess she's incapable of burning... although.. uh, don't give me ideas! Hehe. You think Aberforth and Albus changed? Hm... I seriously doubt Dumbledore would sacrifice his brother...
Meggie: I hope you get what's going on. But keep it to yourself, it would spoil all the
fun for those who haven't figured yet...
GinevraPotter: Hey, that must have been your longest review ever! *giggles* I see you really liked the chapter!

Uh, picking Dobby at random... hm.. not really. And I didn't intend to make him say all this, he was supposed to tell a different story. But, oh well, he spilled the beans for you. He obviously was too eager to really help Harry than doing the things I wanted him to do. Peculiar little beast...
xLovelizAx: Yes, yes, harry is indeed still having occlumency lessons and Flutterflie is also teaching him to penetrate her mind for reasons... well... for reasons we'll have to find out first. And I think you got confused with Finja's visions.
Firstly: all of her visions are visions of the future, and they will happen just like she saw it, BUT
secondly: they (thus Snape and her) have never been able to interpret the visions correctly. There are so many different ways... take the baby for example. It could have been Finja's child and 'Dumbledore' was there for a visit and cradled the baby. BUT maybe Finja had been seriously wounded and had to stay at the hospital wing, and some other woman just had her child, and 'Dumbledore' only still had it in his arm when he talked to Finja. Maybe it's not even Dumbledore, but a man that looks a lot like him. It's a vision only...

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| what does this mean?! *lol* is dumbledore alive?? is snape dead?? |
*lol* No, it does neither mean that Dumbles is alive, nor does it mean that Severus is dead. It simply means that Dobby's logic failed and I have a funny line.
verilladaine: Careful... we don't know that Snape has been faithful
all along. We only know that he joined the Death Eaters on Dumbledore's orders, we have no idea what happend then... and why he killed Dumbledore and the Weasleys... *evilgrin*
Thanks for all of your comments, they keep me going.

Flutters
verilladaine
Nov 15 2005, 11:40 PM
Hey, i think it wouldnt be at all strange if kreacher listened to snape. didnt you impress on us that snape was a black family member, only he happened outside of marriage and with some one else? yes, kreacher would listen to him.
Meggie
Nov 16 2005, 03:07 AM
Okay, beta hat, as promised

Nothing too bad, just a few grammar mistakes. And if you ever need a beta and JoP isn't around, feel free to send it my way
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| There were only four month left |
four months
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| Well, Slughorn didn’t take it too serious |
seriously
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| Flutterflie wasn’t doing good either. |
doing well
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| McGonagall wouldn’t have them work in a cold room wearing a tea cosy only |
I think it's cozy... but it might be spelled differently in the UK and I just don't know
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| After a few minutes time, Harry decided to specify another row, entitled ‘losses’ |
I think create might work better than specify
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| The man in Snape’s memory had rather looked than the man in Finja’s vision |
do you mean 'rather looked like'?
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| “Oh, Kreatcher has changed so much, ever since…” Dobby stopped an bit his lip. Harry knew that guilty look upon the house-elves face and felt the urge to investigate. |
Kreacher, not Kreatcher; stopped
and bit his lip; house elve's face
Okay, so I'm not going to theorise because I think I've got a pretty good idea what's going on, but I don't want to ruin it for anyone. This was a fabulous chapter... It revealed a lot, at least to me. You made Harry's frustration really easy to sympathise with, and I loved that he tried to problem solve Hermione-style. Dobby was excellent. I was laughing so hard when he was calling Snape 'Professor Mr. Snape.' Hopefully I'm not the only one

Ah, and once again he was torn between helping Harry and obeying a previous order. Gotta love him. Hehe, and the visions... Well, I liked Harry's thought process
xoxo,
Meggie
razzberry2
Nov 16 2005, 11:17 AM
Another great chapter Flutters, and another piece of the puzzle. Who would have thought that such important revallations would have come from Dobbie??
Its nice to hear Kreacher has fianlly been pulled into line, by a Black no less!! So I guess that's why it worked. I'm still ver curious as to who this solden robed older man is. I can only think its Aberforth, but then he was described in the books as being a rather gruff and unattractive creature, so maybe not. Still got me on that one.
I cant imagine Finja is going to be able to avoid Harry's questioning for much longer , considering how frustrated and annoyed he is. And now it appears he has some new information to share with her, so something must come of it.
Poor Harry, I really feel for the guy having to sit and try and work all this out alone because no one believes in him enough to tell him what's really going on.
Look foward to the next one mate. Sorry if this is a bit short, I've been working on the site for the past 4 hrs and I'm getting mighty tired again. Catchya soon
Flutterflie
Nov 16 2005, 10:11 PM
razzberry2: Yeah, I guess, like always, you are thinking the same lines as I do and of course Harry will be seeking Finja now, with his head full of questions.
Harry is poor, having to work it out alone, but I guess it's not because nobody wants to tell him. I think there is nobody - and I mean
nobody out there, who actually oversees the whole situation. Not even Phoenix. Not even Snape...
Meggie: Thanks for betaing. I will change it. Just not now. I am too tired. *yawn*
It makes me glad you were able to laugh. I always feel bad for creation such a dark and gloomy situation. So it's good if you still can laugh.
verilladaine:
gaburdette: Oh, I hope you're feeling better! I already guessed you were somehow
gone and it does flatter me to see you're still checking even though you're traveling. *widesmile*
parvati: I'm glad you liked it. And I'd be even more thrilled if you could write like... three sentences.

It's tough to see which part you liked extermely, you know. And you could also tell us some of your theories. Don't be afraid to write English, if it's not your first language. See, bubo, Krieltje and I, we're not American/British/Australian either.

Thanks for your comments!
Flutters
verilladaine
Nov 16 2005, 10:25 PM
Consequently, flutterfly, i'm no american/english/australian either! i am a foreigner too, only, i've lived out in the US for too long, over half my life and i know english far better than i know my own language.
by the way, i know english far better than smilees too. it just tells me you're laughing in the background or that i've stepped on some sort of nerve.