hmmm.....weight issue...i think this is the topic i hate the most...
i have always been a normal girl(or i think so )but i was (and still)told that i should control my diet and exercise and so on.........but i know that i cannot be like those actresses or models!!!!! they are too skiny!my family is full of so thin and skinny people... so i think this is another reason that i am constantly told to lose weight(and i am 51.i dont think i am overweight!!!they tell me i should not be more than 45!!!)all my cousins are like wearing size XS..i do wear S or M at the most..it feels so bad sometimes.....in my vacations i didnt had anything for whole 2 days!!then my parents thought it isn't a good idea to remind me again and again to lose weight!!
when i was younger ,i always imagined looking like those models... but now i know that no dieting or extra exercise helps!!!!!!!all of us have our different body structures!if you think that leaving a meal will help you lose weight ,it is senceless!
katie,don't take your father seriously...parents sometimes do irritate . you are what you are ..i don't think that you are fat or anything..(you told us too)....



wow marcey.....that was so deep....you really made me feel i was thinking along the right lines(for the first time in my life ....Mckenzie just said what i really wanted to say over here ..
i never knew dianne that you are also in 10th grade!!!!!that's great !
i just love this thread ....it seems to have so many people understanding you!what you are thinking ,what you wanna say.....its just amazing....
welcome tigerlily and firefly.....(well i am also considerably new here!)

P.S.-dianne.........i am waiting for the party...... *

Hey I'm here where is everyone else, I'm waiting for the party to begin....teehee..I'm sitting here with my presents to give out to all of you, hope you gals like them.....Anyway it is good that all of gals can stew with each other over all of the life issues that we as women face on a daily basis..
Sometimes I still feel that I wish I looked as I did when I was 25...But those days are gone by now, so I have learned to grip my imperfections and live with them. My husband is always telling me how perfect I am to him, I'm glad he thinks so cause sometimes I wonder...No matter as I said before girls we are all beautiful, even if others do not think so..Who cares what they think anyway..right? Look there is not a better looking group of ladies than the ones who are on this thread...*group hug* Anyway I'll come back later and hand out presents for the party tata
Marcey

DracosLady you are very lucky to have a husband who loves you so and thinks of you like that. Im not married, im only 16 put already im scared that I wont find that someone. That I will have a lot of divorces, because I always break up with my boyfriends because I get bored of them really fast, and im scared ill get bored of my husband. Another thing im scared of being old…I don’t want to live longer than 70…I don’t want to be all alone, and have all these health problems…I don’t want to outlive all my friends, and sit all alone in my room looking out the window remembering my childhood…
DracoLady Is right all females are beautiful in their own way. Maybe that beauty is not that visible but its there, it always has been.
Nina
P.S.
Marcey…could I get a present????

I have presents for everybody Poland baby, including you!!! Do not worry about marraige and divorce right now! You are too young to let such issues get to you. You have many years ahead in your life to find that perfect someone. I was married the first time when I was 20 and divorced by 22, I never thought I would find another, but when I was 27 I found my husband whom I've been married to for almost 7 long years. They have not been easy though, for 2 of those years my hubby was gone overseas so it was rough.
Love is a very complicated thing, something I don't think any of us will ever fully understand, even after 7 years I still find the love between my husband and I to be a mystery.
Hang in there you are young and one day you will find the "lucky one" don't rush it though, enjoy being young while you can!

i agree with nina .marcey ,you are very lucky to have such a husband who loves you sooo much and that mysterical love thing is soo cute!!!!
nina.......i think i think along the same lines(except the part with many divorces ).
i too dont wanna live more than 60 i guess....you are so dependent and very few are loved and taken care by their children as they have their own life and responsibilities!!
i want that i live till i can take care of myself.....not like a burden to others...

marcey..you are right . i too think that there is somebody special for everyone!
P.S.-i am here . but where are all others?????
i think i will take their presents myself (well they are not here!!!!!)

P.P.S.-nina .come and join our party.....you are most welcome

Presents! Whoo-hoo!! I love presents!!!

Okay, coming down from the high. tee hee.



Polandbaby, don't worry so much about this right now. I can tell you from experience that if all you do is worry about this, you will wake up 30 years old and realize that you have worried your life away.

I did this and spent most of my high school and college years dating creeps and losers and abusers just so I wouldn't be alone. Every guy I dated I told myself 'this is the one I am going to spend the rest of my life with'. Finally I met a guy that was willing to fill that position, but it was only temporary.

Fall in love with yourself before falling in love with someone else. I am 28 and just got to the point to where I am happy alone. Mind you, I have two boys but I'm not in a relationship now.

Granted I would like to meet someone to share the rest of my life with, but it's not a focus or a goal right now. I am busy with my life and my children.

Enjoy the rest of your teen years, enjoy yourself, and I promise the right guy will come to you and then you can look back and say, 'wow; McKenzie's pretty smart after all'.

What the heck are you guys doing here at...10:30? Don't you guys all have school? Jeez.... While I'm sitting in English getting bored to death by grammer....

Nina, don't worry too much. You're only 16; there's time yet. Hey, I'm almost 16 and I haven't even had a crush yet. If anyone has a problem, it's me.

Lol McKenzie. You are smart. Good advice there! You too Marcey. Thankyou. Makes me feel a whole lot better.



Hey vidhi. I had to get off the computer before I could reply...end of class. But hey, the party had already started. I got the cake and the party streamers set up. Amazing amount of new people today. Welcome Nina and have fun at the welcome party that we are throwing for (intially) Vidhi, Katie and Phoenix92 and has now expanded to...#tigerlily#, firefly and...you! Haha. Welcome and have fun! *starts dancing*

Glad to hear that you love the thread as well. Lol. Yes I am in 10th grade. You girls (and James) think that we can reach 500 posts by Christmas? That would be cool.

~Dianne

PS Oh yeah. Do I get a present too Marcey? Yay!

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There you are Katie! Missing your own party? Naughty girl! You're late! Gotta run before librarian catches me not doing schoolwork. *sigh* The things I do for this thread....

hey so nice of you all to wish us such a warm welcome and throwing a party!

i think i never had a party in a thread dealing with depression...
maybe we can talk about something different than weight problems now... i really hate that one... though it was great to hear your comments!

@DracosLady: congratulations to your good catch!!! your husband seems as a perfect guy for you...
this at last gives me hope... i´ve never been in love (though i had a horrible relationship once) and sometimes i don´t think that i´ll ever fall in love with someone...

Welcome #tigerlily#! Glad you are hear. Yes I guess you could say I got a good one when I caught my hubby. He has had alot to put up from me over the years, some have not been easy. I suffer from bi-polar and my moods change quicker than the weather at times. I make it very difficult for him at times, but he has stuck by my side through thick and thin. oh you will fall in love someday, don't fret about that one. Relationships are sorta like cars you have to try out a few lemons before you get one that runs right. I know thats corny but its true. You hafta go through a few bad before you get a good. I know I did. I too had many bad, bad relationships before I finally got in the one I'm with. Don't worry about it though, you're young and have many years to wait for the right one!
When is this party starting? I'm waiting to hand out presents, and the ice cream is melting...lol

Phoenix of course you get a gift as well!

Where have I been? I've missed almost two pages of posts!

Welcome to the new people! Party on!

Aw, Dianne, I am realizing I don't always have much that's helpful to say, but as for the weight thing? I have a son who is 20 years old. He's so sweet. Anyway, if we're out somewhere and I point out a pretty girl to him, half the time he'll say something like "Yeah, she's cute. Too darn skinny though...why don't these girls want to have curves? I do not want to squeeze a girl who feels like a guy." Not all guys want the pencil-thin girl, I can tell you that!

When I was young, I worred I wouldn't find someone too. In fact, and this is pretty personal but I was 22 before I lost my virginity. That was really late in those days, when we didn't even know about HIV or AIDS--when the worst you could get was something penicillin would cure! And I got married and was a mom by 25 anyhow.

Since this group is mostly women, I'm going to state a simple fact. Love is hard to find--the real thing, the forever thing. To find a guy who loves you for who you are, isn't trying to own you, or control your life, or make you feel bad about yourself--that's hard to find. Sex is easy to find. If sex were a candy store, we women would have the keys to all the goodies. Remember you have that power and be wise with who you open those shelves for!

And McKenzie is so right about loving yourself first. I think it took me until the last couple of years to realize that. I was always so determined to secure a man's love that I'd do anything for him, and sometimes before I really knew his true character. I've done this over and over again, and was just lucky that the ones I had weren't awful--well, until the last two, which really messed me up! Just goes to show you, it's never too late to learn!

The age thing--my mom and I talked about this. We've both decided that once we are in our eighties, no more surgeries. If something goes wrong, let it alone. People get all these surgeries and spend their last remaining years trying to recover from them, and not really enjoying life anyhow. But up till 80, I plan to have fun! I am realizing at 45 that I am in a rare place--I am a free woman! My child is raised, my parents are fine--the world is my oyster! I'm certainly not going to lie down and die because I'm not 18 anymore, there's a whole world out there to experience! And since I am wiser (hopefully!) than I was at 18, I should be able to navigate it better!

There. Hope I didn't miss any salient points. Oh yeah, Dianne? I am awful with names, so in the alst year or so I've made an extra effort to memorize people's names. lol

Marcey, what'd I get? What'd I get?

Well darcy...I thought the best present for you would be a nice bottle of perfume, and some fuzzy slippers...I love slippers I'm wearing fuzzy pink ones right now! Hope you like it, where is everyone else I need to hand their gifts out before it gets too late

*frowning* I had a post on here but it disappeared.

I'm here!!! I'm here!!! I want presents!!! Can I have my present Marcey????? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????



I know I'm not as wizened as Darcy, but it saddens me when I hear young women say 'I have to or he says I don't love him' or 'If I don't I'll lose him'.

If I could change something about my life it would be my promiscuity as a young adult. However, since I can't change the past, all I can do is learn from it and hope others can learn from me as well.



Darcy, me too! That's why I have a list of everyone's names sitting on my desk!!! LOL!

Okay! Present time!!! I'm ready Marcey!!!!!

hmmm everyone wants a present ...but no one knows what they are.... ...what can they be....we are almost all women/girls so what will we all get that we (most of us) will like....marcey i would like my present on a day that i am depressed, it will make me feel better.....

Lol. Yes guys. A party on the "depression" thread is kinda...weird. But it's been a very interesting day with a lot of posts from everyone. And I guess this group is special in this way.


Which phoenix? We have a couple here....

That makes me wonder. I swear that I saw Katie reading the thread right before I had to switch screens and, later, log off. It appears that she didn't post anything. Aww...she missed her party....


My exact thoughts when I logged on at lunchtime! And the second thing I did was check the time of the posts and wonder at the time difference.


LOL! That's so smart McKenzie. I should do that. Except...I'll probably lose it in two days.

Me too Marcey! Me too! What did I get? Hmm...?

Oh. And one more thing. This is way off-topic, but I needed to talk. There was a group that performed their Macbeth skit today. They didn't have backup-scripts or prompts and there were some pretty awkward pauses in their performance when the person speaking forgot their lines. I felt really sorry for them. But the thing is, our group is performing on Wednesday and I'm sooo scared that it'll turn out something like what happened to them: brain freeze. We don't have scripts or prompts either. Darcy, we got our costumes done. Maybe I can get someone do take photos with their cellphone during our presentation to post on my space so I can show you guys...that'd be cool.

~Dianne

PS...why do I keep signing all my posts...

@PhoenixTears: there is no need for you to feel scared when you learnd your lines....
i know that sounds easy but i used to sing infront of people of my school just with a piano next to me... of cause you feel afraid before entering the stage... but you have to use the energy of the audience to give you some sort of push and everything will work...
maybe it helps you to look in the eyes of someone sitting in the crowd...like a friend or familymember...(if that scares you even more than simply look on there hair or what ever you like...)

... about the party... i got kicked out (server not found...) so i missed the icecream...
but anyway i wish to have some of that slippers as my gift!!!

Hey!!!!I missed the party!!!. I had exam yesterday,and I coudn't come online!!!. I am so dissapointed!! *cries*.Anyways it's okay,atleast I could read the posts!!.So, I really missed you guys .I can't stay away from my computer for 1 day.It's like ages since I had last posted here!!.So, how was the party??And where is my present,surely no one had taken my present??

I don't think anyone has taken your present.... But you'll have to wait till Marcey posts to find that out. I think that, so far, only Darcy knows what her present is though.

How did the exam go? For which subject was it? Was it hard? Don't answer if you don't want to. And if you want, maybe we can have a one-day extension for the party? What do you think McKenzie?

~Dianne

Oh please! Any excuse to have a party and I am all there. If this were a real party I would make all kinds of treats and cookies and candy and cakes and stuff! I love to bake, I love to cook, and I love to serve it to other people.

What's funny is I am lactose intolerant so I can't eat a lot of dairy products or I get sick. If I make a really cheesy dish I don't eat it. People think I'm nuts for spending all of that time making something and then not eat it. *shrug* I don't really care. If they enjoy it, that's all that matters.



Ah, the dredge of exams. I don't envy you one bit. I do wish you and everyone else taking tests and hope you study hard so you can get good grades and get back on VTM!!!

Guten Morgen!

Thanks so much for the pressies, Marcey! I need some new slippers, actually. lol

I'm depressed this morning, it's the same old thing. I post a chapter of my fanfic on fanfiction.net, and the reviews start coming in, and I dread them. And now I just told someone off, but Dianne, you'd be surprised! It wasn't even Duj, the worst offender! I wrote:

"You crack me up, hon. Well, not really...

No trouble? This fic here is really starting to depress me! I dread getting reviews, because I have one person who bugs me constantly over nit-picky details of canon, which in her case are inaccurate most of the time anyway. But if I try to tell her that, she just barrages me with emails telling me I'm wrong until I give in out of sheer exhaustion. She's even gone so far as to email and harrass my other readers who think her reviews are too harsh--and inaccurate (and yes, I heard about it!)! Then if she reads a chapter and doesn't find anything to complain about, I get one grudging line, like it upset her that she couldn't rant at me and feel superior.

Then there's you, not unkind, but still, saying things like "Are you officially ignoring canon?" Complaining twice to me now because you don't like my characterization of Snape.

The fact is, this is my fic. My fic, my Snape. You don't like it? Don't read it. I am glad you're writing your own, so you can find out how it feels to be criticised and to dread writing. This used to be fun, which it should be. I have written three other fics before this and I've never been treated like this before. I am glad, as I never would have written another. Only the fact that this story get about 1,500 hits everytime I post a chapter, from people who must actually enjoy reading it, keeps me going.

I am sorry to sound so harsh, but it's very disheartening to face this, chapter after chapter, and it's getting to the point where I can't just let it go anymore.

Good luck on your fic. Watch out for the Snape-N*zis. ;-)

~Darcy"

I feel stupid for whining about it, because I'm supposed to welcome "constructive criticism," and I can't tell if I'm being over-sensitive or if I'm justified, and I keep harping on about that here at VTM, too. I'm half-inclined to just not read any reviews I get from that site. What happened to fanfic writing being fun? It can't be, when the Snape-N*azis come for you. So discouraging. Whine, whine, whine...McKenzie, can I have a cheesy dish to go with my whine?

hey phoenix92 .i think i too missed the party.. (but i will still hope for my presents.. ) i was so busy with all the schoolwork (and my exams are starting from 1st december! ....

dianne...i wish you luck for your play .don't feel nervous just think that you can do it.
and no such thing is gonna happen...just cheer up!!!!!just do your best and try to concentrate.that's what you can do!!!!!for now have this from me!
i am still wishing for the party and i have popcorns and cakes and pizzas with me!(Mckenzie don't worry .i don't have much dairy products! )
marcey........i am waiting for my presents.....*imagines what they are..tries hard .....now gives up*..i think i will have to wait for your post to get it clear!

now..some bad news(at least for me it is )since i have my exams from 1st ,so my mum is just pressurizing me so much to get good marks(and it is also 10th,so it increases the burden)she doesn't alllow me to spend so much time on laptop so maybe i will disappear for two or so months(not that i will not check the posts or post mine but i may not be regular )i will try to come on VTM as much as i can but still....*breaks down and cries heartidly*
i just wanted to say i will miss you all!



bye,...........
~vidhi

We'll miss you too, Vidhi! Hang in there, and please drop us a short line once in awhile to let us know you're OK! It'll be nice to have you back! I so don't miss homework and studying! Ack!

Oh, Dianne, I like it when people sign their posts, it helps me learn their names! I'm not supposed to wish you good luck on the play, as that is bad luck, but hopefully it'll turn out all right. Did you end up going with modern dress?

You know Darcy I completely understand your feelings. I was friends with a guy who wrote on ff.net (and for some odd reason he quit writing to me ) and he told me that he loved the positive reviews, but the critical ones really got to him.

I don't know if you write the same way he did, but he would write a little bit, then post, wait for reviews and then write some more, post, wait for reviews...very tedious but he said he used feedback for his future chapters.

You know, thinking about him really upsets me. We had been talking for a while, everything was hunky dory, I even wished him a happy birthday and them bam! He quit writing to me! What a dork! *huff* He seemed really nice too. *pouting* Oh well.

I have to admit I have flamed a few fan fics, but only because I read the whole thing thinking it would get better, and then be extremely upset when the entire thing was just ridiculous. I only read fan fics that are complete because I have been left high and dry a few times. There is this really wicked story about Professor Snape and why he is the way he is, and the author 'abandoned it for a while'. Psh.

Please don't let this reader discourage you Darcy. You have an enviable talent that you are blessing everyone around you with.

Professor Snape is probably one of the hardest characters to write about because there is nothing but negative things said about him. If you do him justice like you did Draco in your triology...well, I'm sure it's fantastic. As soon as it's finished, I will be there with bells on!!!

Vidhi, even if you can't get on VTM, please please please please please PM me, or Darcy or Dianne, or Marcey and let us know that all is well with you! Even if it's just to say 'hello! Good bye!' okay???

Darcy, I'll fix my home made maccaroni and cheese dish with a side of grapes for your whine, okay???

darcy.....

don't worry darcy...i firmly believe in one saying-people throw stones only on the trees that bear fruits ..if you are doing the right thing you will have to face critisism.....its natural and it comes as you do something new and take initiatives....

you are thinking about the one who is critisizing you not about the number of people who are appreciating you and your fic......we want you to write..i am so hooked to your story.....ignore the ones who do bug you but don't provide you with constructive critisism....i want you to continue your story and ignore those people ....(i know it isn't that easy .but still......
i hope you will continue.at least for me.......
i will be waiting for chapter 10 then

P.S.-thanks for saying you will miss me..it feels good..at least someone will..

I know, Vidhi, and I really liked what you said about the trees bearing fruits. I think it can be a hard trait of human nature that we give the most energy to those who appreciate us the least.

And the girl I wrote that to? She wrote back and explained what she had meant, and realised that she should have asked questions instead of saying I wasn't doing it the way she wanted. She was wondering if I was going to say why Snape could be so nice and turn so mean later, and I said, yes, I'd explain that.

I really am tired of being upset about this other person, and I can't help but think that people must be tired of hearing me complain about her! So I will do my best to ignore her comments. Neglecting to reply to her reviews has not worked, she keeps leaving them. I wish she'd find a new hobby! lol

But thank you, sweetie. I needed to remember that I shouldn't concentrate only on the negative!

EDIT: I've asked for advice in the feedback thread, and hopefully I can shut up about this person after that! Jeez! I hate it when I am like this...

Hmmm...I'm going to completely change the subject but only because this is something that has been bothering me.

Last week was the 2nd anniversary of when my father had his prostate removed due to cancer. He didn't have a tumor, and he didn't have anything wrong with him, other than elevated PSA levels.

I live with my parents so I was around whenever he went through this. However, I don't really consider him to be a 'cancer victim'. He didn't go through chemo, he didn't go through any kind of radiation. His urologist just looked at him and said, 'Howard, your PSA levels are too high; I want you to have it removed so the cancer doesn't spread'.

He went in, had it removed and that was that.

Here's what is bothering me; when people talk about having been affected by cancer, the first person I usually think of is my aunt who lost her breast to cancer. Thinking of my father is usually an after thought.

Am I completely belittling his experience, or do I just have the wrong impression of cancer victims? Was my father typical or atypical? I support cancer awareness, but not because of him; because there are thousands of children out there going through it and if it were one of my children affected by it I would want everyone possible to help me.

I just feel like I am being incredibly callous and unfeeling towards his experience, but...I don't know...does anyone know what I'm trying to say??

~ McKenzie ~

I don't think you're being callous. You obviously care about him, don't you? And his experience of cancer was fairly mild, as cancer goes. My grandfather had prostate cancer too, but he took drugs to control the spread and lived another 15 years past his diagnosis, and it wasn't what brought him down in the end.

I think cancer is always bad, but some are definitely worse than others. Breast cancer can be very bad. Your aunt's experience was far worse than your dad's, as it resulted in disfigurement--a constant reminder of it, everytime she gets dressed in the morning, everytime she takes a bath...the aftermath would be much harder to deal with than what your dad faced after recovery. While he had to face the fear of having cancer, no one looking at him would ever be able to tell.

Please don't feel bad about this--I think that your mind has simply weighed the difference. It isn't as if you don't care about your dad and what he faced, you just know it could have been so much worse, and I'm sure he does, too.

@SnakeCharmer74: i can completely understand you. my mum had cancer in her breast and i never pictured her as a "typical" cancer victim...
she hadn´t had a chemo either...
and some times i felt cold hearted because everyone else nearly started crying when i told about my mum having cancer... and i just couldn´t.

There was no weeping or anything like that when my father was diagnosed. Just acceptance. I thought my mother would fall apart but my parents faith in God was so strong that they just didn't worry about it. Que cera cera is how they were.



Thank you. I don't think I feel bad about it, I just wonder if I should feel stronger about it. Like, 'Oh my gosh! My father had cancer! Why does this not bother me!?' you know?

when it comes to a disease like cancer we all think we would react stronger ...
hearing that one of your parents has cancer is like a shock and everybody reacts different to it.
in my opinion crying won´t help anything... just surport your father. this is what is needed most.

McKenzie, it makes me wonder what exactly was going on in your life when the diagnosis was made? I mean, if you were already stretched thin, emotionally speaking, it could very well be why you didn't react to the news of your dad's cancer as you thought you should have. I really do think there's only so much despair we can process in a given amount of time...two-three years ago I was a mess! I'd had three friends betray me, and three men in a row treat me badly (one was a stalker!), my van broke down three weeks after I bought it and needed $2,000 in repairs, no money, you name it...if I had found out my mom was sick I probably wouldn't have been able to take it all in.

You know, I don't know. We had just moved to Florida, living in a small rental home for 5 people and two dogs, and were stressed about our new house. However, I don't think I was too overwhelmed. At the risk of sounding extremely self centered I really didn't think too much of what was going on around me as long as I and my children were okay.

Mulling this over, I believe I had as much faith as my parents did realizing that no matter what happened, God was going to take care of everything.

I hope that was the case and it wasn't that I just didn't care. I am really hoping that is not the case.

If that was the case, that you didn't care, then it wouldn't be bothering you now. Not to worry, I think you were fine.

Hey Darcy! I know this quote is in the feedback thread, but it made more sense here seeing as I don't really think I ought to post so many negative comments on your feedback.

In anticipation of this, I'd better get my projects and assignments cleared up this week so I can get a major defense ready as quickly as possible. Hey. I have your back in this. I hate her. yes, i know hate's a very strong word and i don't use it often, if at all. if i say hate, then i hate..."with a passion". lol. i've been re-reading your 'winter sun' seeing as there's sooo long between each update.... I've said this before, but if you can't say anything nice, don't say it at all. And I try to live by this too. I mean, what can hurtful comments do? Isn't the world in a bad shape already? Why add to the misery?

And hey. If I get stuck, I can get my a debate buddy to help. He really loves debates and we often hold our own over messenger in tech class. He's planning to be a lawyer and knows how to make a good argument. I missed him in class today....

And it was nice that she apologised and re-phrased her thoughts. Everyone messes up what they want to say every now and then. Take it from someone who loves to write essays. You have to word your thoughts very carefully. At least you know now that he/she isn't Duj material.

Geez...just naming her's making me mad again. I swear, I will make her come running to you and apologise. Do you remember where was it she got her facts wrong? Cause that will help me by not having to read through 4 pages of comments on your ff.net reviews hunting out whatever she's said. Of course I'll still find that reference....

Cancer. Even with the ever increasing rate of cancer today, it is hard to imagine that a close person would ever be the one diagnosed. And it is always hard to accept what will immenaitely come. (sorry. i can't spell. i'll try to have that spell-checked) I'll leave a little secret though. A vitamin called B16 (16 is in subscripts) can help prevent cancer and aging. However, it is most commonly found in the stone of a peach --a little seed when you crack it open. It's kinda bitter, but it works. I don't think that you can buy this vitamin on shelf...not in Canada anyways....

McKenzie. Like what Darcy said, if you didn't care about them then, you wouldn't be so worried now. You were probably swamped with other things at that time. So don't worry.

Thankyou, Darcy, for the help on the play. We are going (probably am going by the time you check this...you posted at 10am EST today...) modern at the end seeing as we couldn't figure out what to get the gentlewomen to wear. I'll see whether I can get that debate buddy, who also takes English with me, to get some pictures of the scene so I can show you.... Ahhh...so nervous. I'll post again in tech tomorrow and probably end up finishing Winter Sun again to calm down.

We'll miss you Vidhi. Even if you can't post long post, write a couple of sentences, if you can. Or, send one of us an Owl so we can tell everyone else that "Yeah, Vidhi's fine. She Owled me today. Got all Outstandings and an Exceptional on her exams. Just kinda swamped under trying to finish studying... " Or something like that. Right Vidhi?


ALright. This post is long enough as it is. I'll go now to check your profile Darcy! And study my lines again.... :S "Out damned spot. Out I say...."

~Dianne

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LOL! THANKYOU DARCY!!! I LOVE you so much! *runs over and give Darcy a big kiss and hug* I was fretting over how to write what you have on your profile update without using our VTM discussions as a point of reference seeing as that would definitely be a bad idea. I am so going to whoop her butt now.... Thankyou and love you darling!

OMG, Dianne, should I be scared? What are you going to tell her? I just needed to write that for me, ya know? If she finds it, she finds it, but I don't care if she does. Maybe now that I've put that there I can stop being such a drama queen about it. Also, I asked about it in the fanfic feedback section, you know, wondering what exactly is a flame? And Greg, gaburdette that is, had me PM him all her comments and he thought it was cool for me to be upset about it, because she never offers any encouragement, nor criticizes about anything that is terribly important. I can PM you that list, too, so you have them all in one place. I'll go do that now.

Love you too, sweetie! Which is much better than hate. I swear though, I still should have been put in Slytherin. Ha!

Good morning everyone I am back! My computer whacked out on me the other day and kicked me out! I was even unable to logout properly so my name was hanging out there in VTM but I was'nt even in here! Oh I still have the presents waiting. Shucks and I wanted to give them out the other day too. McKenzie your present is a big fuzzy warm sweater for when it gets cold, and some sexy pictures of Tom that I have teehee, from my own collection lol. Anyway everyone let me know when we are doing this again so I can get out the rest of the presents b/f Christmas....
I have been reading eveyone's posts from the last day and a half... I too have suffered with cancer in my own family. One of my grandmothers was diagnosed with breast cancer at the age of 84, one of my grandfathers (both of whom are deceased) had kidney cancer, my other gran died of colon and brain cancer in March of this year and my sole surviving grandfather has bladder cancer. Oh yeah and my dad's baby brother died of brain cancer 6 years ago. I have seen so much cancer in my family that it actually scares me! I was so scared after my grandmother got breast cancer that I immediately went to the doctor and starting having mammograms at age 29! It really frightens me, with this cancer thing. I worry everyday that when I get older that I too will succomb to cancer in one form or another! Anyway cancer is a very serious thing to deal with especially when it hits so close to home.

Nothing too constructive to add to the current conversation, so I won't say anything at all.

I was writing a looonnnnnggggggggg Owl to Darcy when you posted, Marcey. Thankyou for that list Darcy. It's going to really help me. I don't think I said that in the Owl; I thought that it was long enough already and I'll have a hard enough time to try and find an owl to deliver it.

LOL. If you can love, Darcy, you can't be in Slytherin. If you can put yourself in front of anyone, I don't think that's Slytherin. Most of all, if you don't worship money and will do anything to get at it, Slytherin is not really the right house. Provided, I know that Marcey and McKenzie are in Slytherin, but I'm sure that you're not these things...right?

Oh! That's what I was going to ask! Lost what I was going to say for a second. Do you want an Owl of what I'm going to send her before I do it? So I don't say anything that should probably not be said?

~Dianne

PS Reading your Winter Sun, I have some questions. lol. Not turning it to Duj though...not yet.

Three years in planning? Weren't they planning to go to Privet Island that Christmas? And weren't Draco planning to have Krum take them there? The only other side note is the accent with Victor's dialogue could have been made...more Bulgarian. But accents are usually hard to do for a lot of authors (one of many reasons I hate creative writing) and you've already done an exceptionally good job with the other characters already: Stan, Gabrielle....

I can't speak for Marcey, but I am very selfish, conceited, and could care less about most people. I want what I want when I want it and who I want it from.

Seriously, I've always been a bit pampered and actually have to work at considering someone else's wishes. I am spoiled but I blame it all on my parents.

However I also consider myself pretty ambitious and I think that's the kicker. Not to mention I left the kitty; I was running late and didn't have time to worry about it. I think that's what did me in.



Oh I love it! I'm sure it's a beautiful green color too, right?? I wouldn't care if the pictures were of Tom in a mud pile; they would still be sexy! Meow!

Glad you enjoyed your presents McKenzie....Great Slytherins think alike lol

As for me being like Slytherins, the answer is yes. I am very selfish, self-centered, concieted, rude, and conniving. If I don't get my way, someone will pay (usually my husband...darn Hufflepuff lol)
I was spoiled as a child, because I was an only child I was usually given what I always wanted, and I do think because of this treatment I was given that it formed the personality that I would later have as an adult. I am somewhat ashamed to boast of this but I feel that once a personality is formed that it stays with you. Make sense. My kids are spolied in some ways, and my husband swears my daughter is every bit like me, she is popular in school, has lots of friends and does not care to tell other girls that she is a cheerleader and a beauty queen...She is only 6 after all...
I am a go-getter and will go after anything no matter what it takes, and will push anyone out of the way that I feel interferes with that...

Well...Slytherin might not fit, because there are times in my life when I've been a complete and total doormat! However...when I want my own way, and someone is getting in the way, I tend to be very sneaky about getting revenge. What do they call that...passive aggressive? Yeah. I do that. It doesn't help that I'm a scorpio...we can lie in wait for years...and as I get older, I put up with less and less in the department of anyone thinking I should compromise...

And then one time, a friend of mine wanted to meet another friend of mine, all online, not in person, but he was (is) a famous guy and she liked him, but...I kinda thwarted that. It was wrong of me, but by the time it came to introduce her I thought she was a word I can't say on here and he didn't deserve to get saddled having to chat with her. And after about three years I did get caught out for it, but by then I didn't really like the famous guy all that much anymore so I didn't really care and felt he deserved to get stuck with her if he bought her poo, but yeah, that was kinda mean. And yeah, I felt guilty for about a week, but then I got over it, because I can't stand that woman now.

But I'm a selfish being, really. I can be really kind and generous as long as my own needs have been met, which are, a comfy home, and to be left the heck alone for many many hours a day, with occasional days out with freinds. Which is why I love working at home. Of course...I'd rescue the kitten! Is that always what determines the difference?

Lol. I didn't see that side of you, Marcey. *scoots away from her..."am I out of your way now?"

And I think a lot of people, Slytherin and otherwise, are happy when their needs are met. There are really few people who are living in poverty can look around and say "I have my husband. I get some food on my table every night. My kids are clothed and fed. There are many worse off than I am. I am truly thankful." Provided, there are some who can see it that way, but few. And for many of us who have lived in the lap of luxurary, relatively to majority of the world's population, we cannot stand it if we can't get something to eat...now. Sorry for that example. I just skipped breakfast....

Oooo.... Ladies and gentlemen, we have a scorpion in our wake!.... RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!!!! Hey Darcy. Passive aggressive is alright. At least that won't get you in a lot of trouble for a while, right? Though, remind me not to get on the wrong side of you....


Of course Darcy! What else do you think does? It's like Hephie. Hard shell with a mushy inside. Looks ferocious and intimidating, but actually a big softie.

~Dianne

I'm not sure. I've heard other Slytherin's say they didn't, so I don't know. I think I took the kitten to the pet store and then left it.

Also, I don't think Slytherin's are selfish and greedy. I think they're ambitious and have learned how to achieve their goals. I think Hermione would make an awesome Slytherin. She is extremely ambitious and wants what she wants when she wants it.

Does S.P.E.W. ring any bells for anyone? Hermione could care less about anything other than her views and the fact that she's right.



Who is Hephie?

Sorry McKenzie. You should know by now that I'm a terrible speller. Let's see if I can get that full name for you...seeing as I have Winter Sun up...hold on...Hephaestus. I was refering to the character that she depicted in her Seasons of Draco: Winter Sun. Great series name, by the way, I don't know whether I've told you yet.

~Dianne

I rescued the kitten, as callous as I may be I could not leave the little kitty to suffer, I think I took it in...I'm an animal lover at heart, with 3 cats and a dog I can't help it.
Hey Phoenix I read Darcy's story Draco's Redemtion, was it not awesome? I loved it. I love the way she depicted Draco in that trilogy as someone with a heart and compassion for others...
I agree with ya McKenzie about Hermione, she is far more ambitious than most Gryffindors, she would have made an ideal Slytherin.

I looked at the quiz answers I had answered when I was sorted and I left the kitten there because 'the pet store own would really not abandon it'. I'm sorry; I have very little patience with things that get in my way. *shrug*

I meant to tell you Marcey that due to your recommendation I read the triology about Draco and man was it awesome! I PMed Darcy about it and told her it was incredible!

I can't wait to read more of her fics.

About the sorting, I believe a said it would depend on how injured the kitten was. If it wasn't too too bad, I would have bought a blanket and some food, since I was at the pet store already, and leave her in my car during my meeting with a crack in the window. I'll probably make sure that she doesn't find anything to swallow in the car either, making her more sick. (or he...oops =^.^=) If the kitten was really badly injured, I'll probably leave her at an animal shelter or hospital, or just skip the meeting altogether if I can't find a place for her.

Yes, Marcey. The Seasons of Draco was spectacular. I remember I was reading it at 3am on a school night because I started the first story while I was trying to finish an essay and ended up finishing Summer Chill and starting on Autumn Storm before thinking I should probably get to bed. I finished number II in tech the next day and started on III the day after that. I finished the trilogy in three days! That was probably the fastest I've read such a long fanfic. lol Darcy. That's why I say that you're such a good writer.

She has Our Turn In Time in progress. It's about third year Hermione having an accident and turns her Time-Turner too far back in time, arriving when Snape is in his sixth/seventh year. I can't remember which. Unfortunately, it is a fic in progress and Darcy (sadistically) loves to make her readers wait forever for the next update when she always leave us with a cliffhanger. It's driving me around the bend. She also said that when she comes up with an inspiration for her story, she'll finish off the Seasons of Draco. I had an idea once...can't remember what it was anymore though. It popped in my head just as I was going to fall asleep....

~Dianne

Hmm...I don't know. A lot of people who are suicidal come from a wide range of background circumstances. Some are being blackmailed or abused, others are abusers of drugs of sorts, still others may just feel unwanted. For a lot though, it is because there is no one to turn to, or no one they feel that they can turn to, that they think of suicide as the only option. And hey, not everyone finds their way to Harry Potter, and even then, not everyone finds their way to the lovely VTM Forums.

~PhoenixTears

Dianne, I have read like the first chapter of darcy's story about Hermione and Snape but that is as far as I've gotten, I'm going out of town this weekend so maybe when I get back I'll start reading it again.
Darcy's going to add yet another saga onto the seasons of draco? that would be great! Hurry up with the inspiration Darcy I wanna read more!
Marcey

LOL. Yeah Darcy. Hurry up with that. I came up with an idea though which would make this series impossible to continue after the last sequel. Athena (or Emilie) said that the Oracle of Delphi predicted that she would be the downfall of Zeus. And in Greek (and Roman...as far as I know) mythology, the Oracle is always correct. Familiar with the story of Oedipus? The Oracle caught up to him at the end. *shakes head* Tragic story. But maybe you could fashion something from that point? It would be interesting. Too bad that Zeus had a change of heart at the end of Winter Sun where he lost some of his pride and admitted his wrong; I think that this idea may be more workable otherwise.

Hmm...this should be on the feedback thread for Winter Sun, shouldn't it? Oops. Hehe. Excuse the off-topic-ness. Think about it?

~Dianne

Hello? I'm here, guys. I'm soooo sorry I haven't been on. And you were right Dianne, I was reading the thread on Monday but I couldn't post since I only had about 15 minutes online. I must have missed your post though... Right, I haven't been on because I decided to only use the computer at weekends, unless I've finished all my homework during the week, which is not very likely. So yeah, I missed the party... Sorry! Anyway, I think only coming on VTM at weekends is actually a good thing. I certainly feel a lot better now that I have time to do other things. Usually I just sit in my room, in the dark, posting stuff on here, but recently I've been able to do more homework and stuff so that's all good. And I'm not really tired anymore... although it looks like I am... Long story, but basically my brother ran into me and now I have a huge bruise under my eye and it just looks like I'm really tired and I have huge bags... but only on one eye. Hope everyone's okay... I'll post again later.

It is so sad when people consider of killing themselves, especially when it comes to young ones.
I've heard of a story that took place in my neighborhood. There was this guy, who had like 4 kids and many debts. Being unable to pay them and to take care of his family, he killed himself. What did he manage? He marked his kids, he made them miserable. Ok, he didn't care about himself, but what about those who are left behind?
Nowadays, there are many teenagers who are disappointed because they are (or believe they are) fat, or unappealing or non-famous. It is depressing the fact that society leads to death, that Kate Moss' body, Angelina Jolie's face or Paris Hilton's money can be a reason worth dying for.
Please, all of you who have thought of suicide, please, remember this: there is always a choice, it may not be easy, but it is a choice. And it's YOU the one who rules your life.