Quality Quidditch Supplies
Jul 30 2005, 05:45 PM
For those of you who noticed, the H/Hr thread had been closed because non supportive people were constantly posting in there, despite several moderator warnings; I'm embarrassed to say most of them were R/Hr's.
So this is your official warning, no chances. If any R/Hr posts in here for any reason other than to swear their undying support of this ship, I will shut down R/Hr. I'm deadly serious about this, no compasion posts, no 'you guys are handling this so well.' Nothing.
This is a place for the H/Hr's to ship the way they want to, even if they don't believe, or you don't believe, that it will happen.
One last time for ya'll with eye problems: Supporters Only
Dominique
Aug 1 2005, 08:48 PM
I'm a H/HR supporter... but no one on this thread is posting

Maybe it's not that popular anymore.. *sigh* If anyone out there is a H/HR shipper PM me and we can talk.. because for now, this thread is silent.
HermioneGio
Aug 2 2005, 03:09 PM
I do not think that H/Hr ship is less popular or something. H/Hr supporters (like me) are still out there, probably their absence is due to the holidays!

In any case, I'll be more than happy to keep talking about our favourite couple!
Hermy-own-ninny
Aug 2 2005, 03:32 PM
actually, i'm supporting several ships
it would be reaaaally cool if harry and hermione end up together, but i think harry and ginny are cute together too! And when harry and ginny stay together, it would be cool if ron and hermoine got together.
but honestly...i don't think harry and hermione will end up togehter..JKR said it herself...

but lets keep our fingers crossed
Bandoth
Aug 2 2005, 03:33 PM
Naa... Our ship is slightly on the down side. That's why so many are gone. They see little point in supporting the ship now that JKR kinda made the outcome clear... Kinda makes us feel neglected and... just like I was doing for a bit, they're probably sulking... I've avoided the ships thread for the last two weeks because of it...
Louise
Aug 2 2005, 04:21 PM
I've taken a battering, yup...no doubt about that, as has the ship.
But I couldn't care less what others think...I couldn't even care less what JKR herself has said. Clearly she has talent that even she is unaware of because there WAS H/Hr evidence in those books and I STILL think there is H/Hr evidence in those books. Yes, R/Hr is happening..that's clear. It's up to JKR what she wants to do and it's up to other readers how they choose to interpret what she says, but I am and always will be a H/Hr shipper.
I'm not 'militant', I'm not boycotting the books and I'm not sending threats to the owners of certain other sites as some fans have apparently been doing - extremely shameful and I would never ally myself with such people who do the whole fandom a grave injustice. I'm not even insisting that H/Hr will happen in the end...clearly JKR has chosen to go down a different path in her books, but whatever happens beyond is completely and utterly up to the fans and I will believe whatever I choose to believe.
So R/Hr happens - big deal. There is a wealth of excellently written fanfic out there centering around H/Hr, some of which could certainly rival anything out there that's been published. I love the H/Hr ship on many levels and always will and nothing will ever move me from that.
So this thread may be quiet for a while until people get over the battering, but rest assured that there is a positive army out there of H/Hr shippers who will continue to prefer the depth and stability of this ship and will continue to write fanfics on it and create sites and avatars about it - and the very best of luck to them.
Speaking strictly as a member of this site and not as a moderator, I can't stand the drippy sentimentality of marriage and babies and squeeing that's going on in the other ships threads anyway, so give me the rationality and text disections that go on in this thread any day of the week.
So bring it on, Bandoth, my friend....and all the other H/Hr lurkers out there....you most certainly are not alone.
Dominique
Aug 2 2005, 09:07 PM
*lurks out from darkness*
I'm so happy that the H/HR thread is back and I can finally discuss my ship

I relize that it is summer, and some people are on vacation, so this thread is going a little slow, but I don't care...
H/HR will always be my ship, and I don't care what J.K Rowling writes... I think H/HR belong together, and that is my opinion and that is why I am posting on this thread
HarryHermonie4eva
Aug 3 2005, 05:24 PM
New Poster but an avid H/Hr supporter. IMO I think these two belong together though I like Ron and was torn between R/Hr and H/Hr. Sure Hermoine gets jealous in book six about Ron and Lavender but she was all over Harry in all the other books it just doesn't make any sense to me how R/Hr are gonna get together and how H/G are together it really doesn't. Plus the chemistry that Dan and Emma has in the films should be reason enough for H/Hr to be together.
wildirish
Aug 4 2005, 05:20 AM
So I guess none of us know who Harry will end up with??
I definitely think He and Hermione should be together... but who knows..it's confusing, it looks like her and ron like each other..then...she gets jealous and it looks like she likes Harry. Who's to say? lol
I still have hope for H/Hr
Krisharose
Aug 4 2005, 07:17 AM
Newbie...
I still love H/Hr...

Yeah, we're a little down, but we have two years to lick our wounds.
And it's not like this is the first time. Its just the biggest onslaught of times. Does anyone remember the dark ages of the platonic quote? Way back in 1999 is was almighty and by pre-HBP it held no meaning.
While I am trying not to raise my hopes up {fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me} , I really
can't just abandon ship...

We all saw something, and maybe even if it isn't stated in canon, we'll get our share of squee-able moments in the Seventh book. I mean, with death looming over their heads, I'm sure proclamations of 'you've always been there for me' are bound to surface.
keep the faith~
harry_loves_hermione
Aug 4 2005, 10:12 AM

I would really love H/Hr to be together. If they're not gonna be together in the end, I'll probably kill JKR.

Just joking.
i really don't like Harry ending up with ginny. Hermione os more worthier that ginny to be Harry's girl.
I love looking at them alone.............
Krisharose
Aug 5 2005, 03:11 AM
If JKR really wanted H/G and R/Hr... she'd do it. I'm just a bit surprised that she'd reveal it with one more book left. Always been my opinion that any 'hook ups' would happen after the final battle took place. It just seems out of place for romance to happen in the middle of a war. Eh. well...
And as for the little interview part where JKR lists off qualities that make Ginny ideal for Harry, all of those traits can be applied to Hermione (who had importance in Harry's life first).
I hope this isn't character bashing. Just an observation.
Dragonlord89
Aug 5 2005, 04:33 AM
How would that be character bashing, you are only pointing out that Hermione has the same qualities that make Ginny ideal for Harry. I personally think that R/Hr will go out but will break up. Probably because he was being stupid or he insulted her or something, like he usually does.
I don't want Harry to end up with Ginny either. It doesn't feel right. You know what I mean? The only one that I think would feel right is Harry and Hermione. I also feel this way because I'm a lot like Hermione and I would never go out with someone like Ron.
Connections between me and Hermione:
1. Read a lot
2. Great at school
3. Follow the rules
4. Near photographic memory
5. Hate it when people don't know what they should
6. everything comes easily, it just makes sense (Like all the times that I have proven my math teachers wrong or shown them easier ways to do things)
7. logical
8. Somewhat of a recluse(homework comes before everything)
9. Don't have a lot of freinds
10. Independent
11. stubborn
12. book smart
13. pay attention even if i already know it
14. hate getting in trouble
15. analytical
16. opinionated
17. get frustrated when people don't understand what you are saying or your logic
I think that you guys get the picture.
Krisharose
Aug 5 2005, 07:35 AM
I just like to be careful about that sort of thing... Eh, I suppose it's cause I don't really lean toward liking Ginny and I dont want that to be confused with me not liking H/G. H/G would have been accepted by me had it been handled ~differently.~
Shipping is a personal sort of thing. Debates... only accomplish getting the persons participating to look deeper into their ship. Very rarely does someone get 'converted.' Generally debates are a good thing, but I'm afraid some some people in the H/Hr sector forgot that and feel bad because all they think that the debating was a 'waste of time.' No way!!! Hopefully, debating helped to better understand a ship and realize that seeing it was not something made up. The books went through literary analyzation... and there was fruit to the labor. We H/Hr shippers weren't wrong in the sense that people in other forums on different sites are saying. We saw something differently...
No work of literature - no, not just that, ART - has ever just been seen in only one way.
Dragonlord89
Aug 5 2005, 09:00 AM
I actually liked being in the debate thread from time to time. It was fun, not a waste of time. And you are absolutely right, we arn't wrong but we see things differently. There are many ways to interpret any action in life. So there should be just as many in a book about the life of a young wizard, Harry Potter. It all comes down to the interpretations made by us. There is no such thing as a wrong opinion, and that is just what an interpretation is, an opinion of what the book is saying or hinting at, etc. I would have accepted the H/G ship too if it had been different. I just think that Harry and Hermione are way closer than Harry and Ginny are. Both Harr and Hermione know eachother, and how they will react or what they want to do or what they are thinking. It's hard to reach that kind of bond with someone. It's almost like identical twins. They know what the other is going to say, do, and think most of the time. That is one reason that I like this ship instead of the others. No one but them have that kind of bond. Well Hermione knows Ron very well too, but its not that hard figure out that nearly every time he talks to you he is going to say something insulting, or tactless. Or what he's thinking about because well, he mostly thinks of himself first in my opinion. I don't think he truly cares what Hermione thinks most of the time, and he almost never takes her advice, etc. Harry at least thinks of how Hermione feels about things, until the sixth book that is. It was totally different from the others though. JK got rid of the guilt that Harry felt lying to Hermione, or the voice in his head that oddly resembled what Hermione would say, etc. Harry just lost someone close to him but it doesn't make sense that it would change his guilt over lying and his conscience, and all that. And I've heard this before: "The book was like a well written fanfic except for the Shipping in it"
Well, that's all I have to say for now. Wow, I rambled on quite a bit. Oh well, no harm in a little rambling.
You wont hear from me for a few days, I'm going up north for the weekend.
Dominique
Aug 5 2005, 08:57 PM
I agree with all of you! No hope is
ever lost untill I can clearly see it typed in words at the end of the last Harry Potter book... but even if R/HR do hookup, which i really really don't want happening, in my head, my ultimate ship will always be H/HR!
No one can tell me how or how not to think.. if I want to support H/HR I will.. and no one can tell me "Didn't you read the book... so and so.. etc"
But I still think that in the end it will be H/HR forever!

*crosses fingers* Oh it better be.. it really better be...
Harry and Hermione Rock
Krisharose
Aug 6 2005, 10:52 PM
I won't fool myself into thinking that the chance of H/Hr in the end is 100 percent. Even before HBP, R-->Hr still stood in the way of our ship. However, I do know that that what book 1-5 H/Hr had an extremely possible chance of survival. The had what it took for it to be true love, instead of just a childhood romance. My way of looking at it is that two books can't destroy that sort of connection and a post-Hogwarts relationship isn't out of the question, assuming that Harry and Hermione survive ofcourse.
jlo871987
Aug 8 2005, 06:57 AM
Well I was doing my daily dictionary reading today and I finally found the word that best describes R/Hr relationship…. and it is….. castigate. Which simply means to chastise verbally, criticize or punish severely. I have been searching for that word for two plus years now, a word that hits at every part of their relationship, and today I found it at 2:37 in the morning. Man I wish the debate thread was still open so I could throw that in with some other things that I have been compiling for a few weeks now.
Dumbledore's Widow
Aug 8 2005, 08:18 PM
Hello to all of you H/Hr shippers in Veritaserum country! I'm a new member to this site and I think I will have fun posting here.
I too am an avid, rather passionate, but not at all militant, H/Hr shipper. I too was disappointed in the H/G shipping in Half Blood Prince. I always thought that it would come down to Harry and Hermione or Ron and Hermione. I never thought of Ginny as a romantic possibility. Of course, to me she was just an ordinary character in books 1 - 5, not this beautiful gifted witch portrayed in HBP. (Note: I have my tongue deeply embedded in my cheek as I said that.) To me, she was another secondary character like Neville, Luna, Draco, the Patil sisters, Cho, etc. I still have great hopes that H/Hr will happen in book 7. I believe that the H/G ship was over when Harry broke off with her in the last chapter of HBP. I could be wrong in that Jo could bring these two back together again in book 7, but I don't think so. The way I see it, there will be some R/Hr in book 7, but they too will break it off, believing that they are better suited as friends. The dangers that the trio will be involved in will bring Hermione and Harry closer. I believe book 7 will be more about horcruxes and Lord Voldemort's downfall and a little less romance. However, the little romance I see in book 7, will be between Harry and Hermione. And, no, I don't own a crystal ball, nor am I one of JKR's confidantes. It's purely my opinion. My wishful thinking. My optimism that my ship will sail in the end.
More later, I'll be around.
wildirish
Aug 8 2005, 08:38 PM
I havent read all of the books, so it's really frustrating for me to not know what's going on...

lol
If H/Hr doesnt get together..it wont be so bad as long they dont get with other people. These arent romance novels. So if stays and focuses on the battle of good/evil.. and Harry's fight..etc.. I'm happy.
BUT..it'd be nice if he and Hermione did get together
I have to say that I am disappointed after reading HBP and that interview, I believed that it was going to be H/Hr. I thought the whole Theme in the Harry Potter Series was to do with LOVE, but it seems that how the ships have ended up dont seem to match that theme at all . Yeah alright R/Hr, but it still seemed a bit one sided (ron's side rather that a mutual ship, as Hermione still didn't really show all that much geniune interest in Ron) but the H/G thing to me just didn't seem to fit at all it seemed to appear out of not much lead up. I agree that Ginny seemed to be a secondary character not end up as Harry's girl of his dreams. Where as Hermione seemed to be more the girl for Harry, with all her points she has as a best friend for him, IMO would make a better romantic partner (or is it just reading more into it that we were suppose too). Are well, I dont care if there seems no hope for H/Hr I still think they would be the better couple that R/Hr or H/G and I will continue to remain a H/Hr shipper and hope for a miracle in Book 7.
HPFan21
Aug 9 2005, 06:29 AM
Hey guys! I'm also really disappointed at the H/G shipping in HBP

.I really hated when Harry kissed Ginny when she ran to hug him,but i was really happy when he broke up with her

. I hope they stay apart in the 7th book

.I really really dislike Ginny. Did anyone else find what Ginny said to Hermione after Quidditch rude? Also when she was Arguing with Ron about not ever snogging. ALot of ppl in the H/G threads have said that Ginny is really powerful,but the only spell we have actually read that she has done is The Bat-Bogey Hex. The Bat-Bogey Hex isn't really that powerful,it only enlarges an opponents bogies (dried snot)to bat size,adds wings,and attacks his or her face,which in my opinion is really dumb

. Anyways sorry if i'm off topic,as I said before,Im just really upset about this ship. BTW anyone else feelthis way about Ginny or am I the only one?
Louise
Aug 9 2005, 08:22 AM
No, mate...you're not. I can't stand Ginny. I think she's a little prat, to be honest, and if that's what Jo expects us to find endearing, then I seriously fear for the future of the human race. She's shallow, she's in-your-face with her Spice-girlish "feistyness" (yeah, tongue firmly planted in cheek there too...

), she's someone who I wouldn't want to be a friend with in a million years. She'd get on my wick after about two seconds. Give me Luna or Hermione any of the day of the week. And that, believe it or not, is not because I'm a bitter shipper, but simply because I, like many others (read the 'Initial Reaction to HBP' and 'Do you think Ginny is Likeable' threads to see the general view) feel that Jo failed abysmally in her attempt to bring her from a twee little "she fancies Harry" girl in CoS to uber-babe that apparently makes her worthy of Harry. Well, all I can say is that if that type of woman appeals to Harry, then I have not only seriously misread Harry's character, but the whole point of these books as well. Which I guess makes me delusional...well, so what. As my avatar says, my delusions are much better than the canon, I'm afraid.
The thing is, I know this will probably be hard to believe, but I honestly don't mind the idea of Ron and Hermione getting together. I think the tooing and frooing and 'I hate you...no....I love you!' got really tedious, but at least, in the end it was subtle...though disappointing for all the serious R/Hr's who were hoping for more than that. I didn't like it, but I would have accepted it.
What really got my goat was Ginny of all people. God...I swear...I really did feel ill when I could see the way the book was going. Even Luna would have been better...I really liked her and I liked how Harry finally noticed her enough to ask her to Slughorn's party. I could see the way R/Hr was going, and whilst disappointed, I thought...meh, it's not so bad...as long as Harry ends up with someone nice.
So she's not good looking...so what? Ginny is pretty, yes, but since when did Harry become so flippin shallow as to judge people on appearences? I don't know...gut wrenchingly disappointing all in all. Talk about character assassination....
Anywho, I'm not a militant H/Hr'er either. I accept that it's not going to happen in the books, but that doesn't stop fanfic and it doesn't stop us wondering about how things would turn out after book seven (presuming they all survive, of course) and I'm always going to prefer H/Hr. If Jo didn't see the hints that she made towards that ship, then either she seriously underestimated her own writing ability or else she's not as clever as we all thought she was and she really doesn't understand that a lot of what she's written and the characterisations she has come up with point in another direction to that which in which she obviously intends to go.
BTW, sorry, jlo871987, but it was just pointless....the abuse started almost straight away and most people felt that there was just nothing left to discuss - which there isn't, I guess. Not as far as Jo's intentions go. As for who is really suited to Harry - unless I have completely misunderstood his character - that will always be Hermione for me.

I don't want to believe that the hero of these books will choose the pretty, popular girl with the caustic personality in the end just like his father did.
His father was a prat with a head far too big for his own shoulders who thought it was funny to make fun of those beneath him. I thought Harry could see that. I thought he was more than his father. Well, if that's all something to aspire to, then I have seriously misjudged JKR.
HPFan21
Aug 9 2005, 10:16 PM
| QUOTE (Dana_Scully @ Aug 9 2005, 02:22 AM) |
No, mate...you're not. I can't stand Ginny. I think she's a little prat, to be honest, and if that's what Jo expects us to find endearing, then I seriously fear for the future of the human race. She's shallow, she's in-your-face with her Spice-girlish "feistyness" (yeah, tongue firmly planted in cheek there too... ), she's someone who I wouldn't want to be a friend with in a million years. She'd get on my wick after about two seconds. Give me Luna or Hermione any of the day of the week. And that, believe it or not, is not because I'm a bitter shipper, but simply because I, like many others (read the 'Initial Reaction to HBP' and 'Do you think Ginny is Likeable' threads to see the general view) feel that Jo failed abysmally in her attempt to bring her from a twee little "she fancies Harry" girl in CoS to uber-babe that apparently makes her worthy of Harry. Well, all I can say is that if that type of woman appeals to Harry, then I have not only seriously misread Harry's character, but the whole point of these books as well. Which I guess makes me delusional...well, so what. As my avatar says, my delusions are much better than the canon, I'm afraid.
The thing is, I know this will probably be hard to believe, but I honestly don't mind the idea of Ron and Hermione getting together. I think the tooing and frooing and 'I hate you...no....I love you!' got really tedious, but at least, in the end it was subtle...though disappointing for all the serious R/Hr's who were hoping for more than that. I didn't like it, but I would have accepted it.
What really got my goat was Ginny of all people. God...I swear...I really did feel ill when I could see the way the book was going. Even Luna would have been better...I really liked her and I liked how Harry finally noticed her enough to ask her to Slughorn's party. I could see the way R/Hr was going, and whilst disappointed, I thought...meh, it's not so bad...as long as Harry ends up with someone nice.
So she's not good looking...so what? Ginny is pretty, yes, but since when did Harry become so flippin shallow as to judge people on appearences? I don't know...gut wrenchingly disappointing all in all. Talk about character assassination....
Anywho, I'm not a militant H/Hr'er either. I accept that it's not going to happen in the books, but that doesn't stop fanfic and it doesn't stop us wondering about how things would turn out after book seven (presuming they all survive, of course) and I'm always going to prefer H/Hr. If Jo didn't see the hints that she made towards that ship, then either she seriously underestimated her own writing ability or else she's not as clever as we all thought she was and she really doesn't understand that a lot of what she's written and the characterisations she has come up with point in another direction to that which in which she obviously intends to go.
BTW, sorry, jlo871987, but it was just pointless....the abuse started almost straight away and most people felt that there was just nothing left to discuss - which there isn't, I guess. Not as far as Jo's intentions go. As for who is really suited to Harry - unless I have completely misunderstood his character - that will always be Hermione for me. I don't want to believe that the hero of these books will choose the pretty, popular girl with the caustic personality in the end just like his father did.
His father was a prat with a head far too big for his own shoulders who thought it was funny to make fun of those beneath him. I thought Harry could see that. I thought he was more than his father. Well, if that's all something to aspire to, then I have seriously misjudged JKR. |
I totally agree with you. I used to be an H/HR shipper but then I realised that Ron and Hermione wouldn't be that bad

.*sigh* Atleast I have one ship to look forward to,i f they do hook up in the next book.As for Harry and Ginny, I hope in the last book Voldemort kills Ginny and then Harry kills him and then he falls in love with another nicer, better girl (at this point I don't care who its is as long as it isn't her!) Seriously, if she does die i will be so happy

.I will start dancing LOL.

BTW Dana you know what else sucks, is that if they decide to film the last two movies, they're going to shoot Dan kissing the actress that plays Ginny

.Oh yeah, since they're filming OOTP next year they also gonna show him snogging Cho,

. Eventhough I would much rather have Dan kissing me LOL

, I would pick Cho over Ginny anytime

.
hermionepleasecallme
Aug 10 2005, 12:15 AM
Wellllllllll I honestly HATE Ginny. She seems like a you know.. a ... er.. Bimbo. Hermione on the other hand is so much more suited for harry. I will admit how ever Hermione and Rom have always bickered like an old married couple but to see them together!? Disgusting. In my opinion I thought Ron to be a loser screw up whom no one liked but Harry and Hermione

But i guess we can always have what we want (for example I want Emma Watson.....) Hermione seems to have been MADE for Harry, but if JKR wants to make a stupid mistake and put her with Ron I will still , as im sure you all will, read the seventh book.
I hate girls who think they rock and are super athletes and super..... everything else. GINNY DIE!!!!!!!! Hmmn kinda repetitive but well thats what i believe.
(By the way Dumbledore said "Fear of a name only increases fear of the thing itself" while trying to presuade Harry to use Volde- He-who-must-not-be-named's name)
MOD EDIT: Hi! Please read the rules- minor netspeak was spotted ('u' for 'you', etc.) I've edited it, but please be more careful in the future. Also, keep your tone more respectful; I'm sure you wouldn't like to have the R/Hr's calling your ship disgusting, even if it is in their own thread. I know I don't.
Thanks, Mason.
KnB
Aug 10 2005, 12:45 AM
I agree with all people are saying about Ginny. She certainly doesn't have the same abilities as Hermione and yet we are now suppose to accept her to be every bit Hermione's equal (with only one good hex and reasonably good Quidditch skills). I cant quite see the comparison myself, but we can only go on what we now know will happen in the books.
Harry seems to have a thing for pretty girls eg Cho and now Ginny, which seems to me to be abit shallow of him. I thought he might show abit more sense than that, seeing as he is suppose to be mature enough to save the wizarding world, but obviously he cant have it all.
I think Mr Weasley sums it up nicely in GOF with him saying "And that, boys, is why you should never go for looks alone!". p101 Eng Ver.
Herminia
Aug 10 2005, 01:38 AM
I used to ship Harry/Hermione (and have never shipped Ron/Hermione or Harry/Ginny, really) and I completely see where you guys are coming from. Until HBP, there was plenty of hints for Ron liking Hermione, but not many positive signals for Hermione liking Ron back.
Anyways, I too was hoping that they'd end up together. Shipping really is a personal thing - and I liked seeing Hermione (a girl who seems just like me) with Harry. Alas.
Harry and Hermione have something much deeper. I really hate to admit this, lest the Ron/Hermione people leap all over me and tear me to bits, but I have no clue why Hermione would choose Ron over Harry UNLESS there was some concrete reason why she couldn't date Harry...which has led me to support the Harry/Hermione sibling theory - obviously a very different premise than a romantic ship, but it at least explains why Harry would choose Ginny and Hermione Ron.
wildirish
Aug 10 2005, 02:22 AM
Even though I am a H/Hr shipper, I do think Ron is sweet..and if he and Hr got together it'd be okay.. I mean, Ron isnt all that goodlooking..so it'd be cute if he got someone like Hr. On the other hand Harry can/could pretty much have anyone he wants. I dont think he'll stick with G. I think he's more focused on his skills and what's happened in his past to be completely taken by "relationships". I dont think it's shallow of him to go with pretty girls, I mean..if we're all honest.. we like those who are attractive and are friends with those who are not..lol
Louise
Aug 10 2005, 09:12 AM
Can I just say how much I absolutely love your signature, wildirish..

So much actually that I've saved a copy of it..

Not that I'd ever use it in a sig because its yours, but the image was just so sweet and I wanted to save it before you decided to change it for something else.

Hope you don't mind.

Anyway, whilst I can appreciate how some of you guys are feeling in here, you really shouldn't be quite so venemous towards R/Hr shippers.

As Mason said, you wouldn't like it if they did it to our ship so I don't think it's very nice of us to do it to theirs.

Anyway, as for the good looking thing, yes, of course we're all attracted to looks in the beginning, that's only natural. I would hope though that personality does play a part in the equation somewhere along the line. And then, more than looks, you have the greater subtleties of sexiness...people like Alan Rickman, Patrick Stewart, Tommy Lee Jones, Anthony Hopkins...I don't think you'd necessarily class any of those guys in the same category as Colin Farrell or Christian Bale, but they are still nonetheless very attractive men because they have that certain je ne sais quois, if you know what I mean.
There are lots of things that attract one person to another and it's not an exact science. I can see things that Hermione would find attractive in Ron, but what you have to understand is that Harry is not exactly god's gift either. We all know Dan is hot, (no, not a pedophile..

Just someone who appreciates a good looking guy when she sees one...

) but Harry isn't supposed to be. He's scrawny with messy hair. But he has a very sweet personality too..or at least, he did up to HBP anyway, but that's beside the point...the point is that Harry, I would hope, has a depth to his character that would be able to see beyond someone's looks. As it is, I don't really think he's shown much of that. He's attracted to good looking girls like Cho - who turned out to be a self-absorbed prat. I would have hoped he would have learned from that and gone for something deeper, but again, he went for the looks. I'm sure that Ginny is *gags and chokes* a nice person beneath the hexing and flirting and "sassiness" that Jo seems to have tried to give her (and failed dismally) but if she is, then Jo needs to do some serious repairwork for me to be able to accept that relationship because I still think that Harry and Hermione share a depth of friendship and understanding that goes far beyond anything he has with anyone else.
For a relationship to truly work, you have to first be friends with that person, understand them - to the point where you don't even need to speak to them to know what they would have to say, and I think Harry and Hermione have always had that. I wanted Harry to go for depth and real meaning - not simply end up with the most popular girl in the school. That is so cliched and disappointing...and like his father, whom I really didn't like at all. I'm waiting for some revelations about James' character in the next book that will redeem him beyond the excuses that Sirius and Lupin made for their behaviour but on the evidence as it stands, James was an egotistical bully and I sincerely hope that Harry aspires to be more than his father.
HPFan21
Aug 10 2005, 02:30 PM
Hey Dana just wanted to say i agree with you entirely

. Also wanted to say was that the only ppl that Harry told about the prophecy were his two BEST FRIENDS and Ginny was his GIRLFRIEND and yet he didn't even bother mentioning it to her. HA!

I think he deeply cares more for his two best friends then his dumb girlfriend (atleast I hope he does). I wonder, who would he save, his two best friends being tortured by Voldemort or Ginny being attacked by a group of death eaters?

Hmmm.....I personally think he should save his two best friends and leave his girlfriend to die
BTW How is Ginny that popular? Do ppl actually like her because she is a 'great' friend or is it just Quidditch and her dumb,silly,little Bat-Bogey Hex?Do all the ppl in her year worship her or somthing, she's not that special!

Also it seems that she is more popular than Harry in Quidditch now.I mean if she was popular we would see her hanging out with groups of ppl but come on! The only people that I have read so far that she hung out with was her three brothers, Harry, Luna, Hermione, Nelville, Micheal, and Dean,or are there others?

Also is she really that hot that she makes Slytherines want to be in Griffindor?

Man if i saw her walking down a corridor i would quickly take out my wand and hit her with the killing curse LOL

OR hit her with the crutacius curse

. *sigh* I wish that could really happen

Anyways sorry if I got off topic.
MOD EDIT : Yeah, you did a little towards the end there.
I just need to remind you to be careful not to use netspeak on the forums ('ppl')
And I've edited the quote of my previous post out, because you replied straight after me so it wasn't really necessary.
Louise
Aug 11 2005, 07:37 PM
I have to be very careful what I say here because, as mod, I'm liable to wake up in the morning to an inbox full of PM's telling me where to shove my keyboard and labelling me biased...

But suffice it to say that whilst I agree with you that Ginny was poorly characterised in this book and she seemed, in my eyes, extremely unworthy of Harry and I have taken a very strong disliking to the parallels being drawn between H/G and Lily/James, I'm afraid that I wouldn't go so far as to want to hex her into next week.

(officially, anyway...

)
I would never want to be friends with someone like her because that type of person just doesn't appeal to me at all and I think that Hermione has far more depth and warmth to her.
So yes, I agree with you...I'd just stop short of the violence.
Krisharose
Aug 14 2005, 07:13 AM
Gone for a bit and people have started posting in this thread again. yay!
Hmn, the Lily/James Parallels with H/G creep me out a bit. I don't know, but recreating the marriage of your parents strikes me as odd. Same goes for the R/Hr argument that they mirror Molly and Arthur. Again, odd.
Dominique
Aug 14 2005, 05:16 PM
As I was reading through the new posts, I agree with you Dana about Ginny... although I am not going to go into full detail because there's a
Venom thread for that now
Anyways, my opinion stands as it is. I belive that in the seventh book both Harry and Voldemort will die, and that will be the end of the series. I mean think about it... if Harry doesn't die, people would want to know if he hooked up with anyone,
who he hooked up with if he did, if he becomes an Auror, and other things.
The things I am dreading, is that
if Harry is to die, Ron and Hermione will get together..

But, I won't get into that either, because if I start, I won't be able to stop.
The thing is this, I just can't see Harry with anyone else! As cheesey as this may be, I believe in it... And if things don't go my way, I'll be upset... but I'll move on! I mean, Harry Potter boks are much much more than just romance! Or so I tell myself...
-Dominique
IILuvFluffy!
Aug 14 2005, 05:30 PM
I'm absolutley obsessed with this ship. I can't stand Ron/Herione (I think Ron is a huge prat) and, frankly, Ginny's not the best Harry could have. Last book he barely even noticed her! I thikn HHr would be so much better. The entire series came down to the ships in this book, and I was disappointed. That's just me.
Dominique
Aug 15 2005, 03:31 PM
Hello Guys!
Did any of you see the new GoF trailer? Well, it's not really a trailer... it's just extra footage... but anyways, back on topic. If you did see it, the person commenting on it said something like:
| QUOTE |
| And since he's getting older, it looks like he might have a magical crush on his hands. |
Now, wouldn't you think they would show Cho right off the bat? Wrong. First they show Hermione, follwing Cho. Could this mean anything? I'm not sure, but why would they show Hermione at that specific time? To maybe confuse us?

Possibly! As we all know, Hermione has a crush on Krum in GoF, while Harry has eyes for Cho… Then why, out of all the possible times they could have shown Hermione, they showed her at
that specific time where they mentioned crushes? It probably
doesn’t mean anything… but I just found it
interesting 
What do you guys think? Watch the new footage and tell me! I forget where the link is though… it was somewhere on one of Razz’s boards in the ‘Goblet of Fire Discuss Room’ Go check it out!
-Dominique
HarryHermonie4eva
Aug 15 2005, 03:43 PM
I think they did that to confuse us and if they did that's really really cruel.
Ok I've been thinking about this for awhile why would Hermoine like Ron? I'm he's so not intellectually on her level, he's a prat sometimes and this is coming from someone who likes Ron. R/Hr just don't fit and this is not my H/Hr bias talking this is what I see in films and in the books. I for one thinks that Hermoine cares ALOT more for Harry than she does for Ron even though many may say its because he's the boy who lived crap but I just don't think that's it at all. There's so much more story to H/Hr than there is for G/H and R/Hr.
Eowyn
Aug 15 2005, 11:09 PM
| QUOTE (Dominique @ Aug 15 2005, 09:31 AM) |
| QUOTE | | And since he's getting older, it looks like he might have a magical crush on his hands. |
Now, wouldn't you think they would show Cho right off the bat? Wrong. First they show Hermione, follwing Cho. Could this mean anything? I'm not sure, but why would they show Hermione at that specific time? To maybe confuse us? |

Yeah, I thought exactly the same! And then I thought "Gosh, I
am delusional....." So it´s good to see that I am not the only person who got this idea....

I also just heard on TV that there are rumours that Daniel Radcliff will be enroling in a Melbourne Private School next year...... Guess, they will get a lot of new girls as well....
(my first post, so please be patient if I am messing this up...)
dumbledore_mourner
Aug 16 2005, 12:59 AM
actually, i think that harry and hermionie will hook up in book 7 because their going off to find voldemort together, arent they? i think it would be just like the perfect hookup! besides, harry & hermionie have been friends since book 1! and i also just noticed that when hermionie first met harry, she wasnt interested in being his friend because he was all famous or anything like that, and i think that would mean alot to harry!
MOD EDIT: Howdy and welcome to the forums! Since you're new, please review the rules, they really help you get along fine on these boards.
Netspeak is not allowed (cuz for because) it makes posts harder to read and makes your ideas seem less thought out, because if you don't take the time to type it out, why would someone else want to read it? Obviously not a good thing, I think you'll agree.
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Star123
Aug 17 2005, 09:35 AM
Spoiler of the 6th book
first, hello all, i just recently joined these forums, after i was lookin at this, wanting to discuss

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err, i don't think harry and hermione will hook up in 7th. in the book, i think that,instead, ron and hermione will hook up because ron is also going. since ginny already did date harry, and harry still likes her in the book, i think ginny will persuade him to take her with her or harry changes his mind about his love for her (so sweet!) . even though i realy do think that harry and hermione should hook up, they would look even better

. harry and hermione in real life would look pretty cute as well, just not sure if they are really dating or not.. look link-
http://www.veritaserum.com/galleries/displ...lbum=20&pos=141http://www.veritaserum.com/galleries/displ...lbum=20&pos=202oh well, this is my thought on it..
Katie_Bell
Aug 17 2005, 03:40 PM
Ever since I started to read Harry Potter it was always these two for me . I never even assumed for a moment that Ron would be the leading man to Hermiones heroine . When I started using the internet and I realised that there was this huge Ron/Hermione fan base I was shocked to say the least . Harry and Hermione just have it the little something that makes you look twice at a romance . Im not demeaning Ron I think he is a great guy I just think Harry suites Hermione more .
For me its all their little moments together , she has been there for Harry many times , she has let him down , she has hurt him and him her I am sure but at the end of the day there bond is still as strong . I agree with the opposers who say they have a great friendship . Truth is they do have a great friendship but it is in no way a brother/sister relationship.Its the kind of friendship that will be perfect for future romance to blossom.
Im not asking for a wedding and 2.4 children even a kiss would be good because after HBP it was the one thing I was left waiting for .
Harry and Hermione I hope may surprise us yet
ashleigh07
Aug 17 2005, 11:22 PM
Hi Star123, welcome to the forums!!

Now as a new member, you really should have read through the
forums rules first before posting. That way you'd be fully aware of the rules in place on site and avoid being told off by a mod

In this case, you should have also read through the
Ships rules which are pinned at the top of this forum before participating in any ships discussions.
All ships threads unless clearly stated otherwise are for SUPPORTERS ONLY. If you want to talk about why you think H/H won't happen, you can do so at the Venom thread
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Hope you enjoy your stay here!!
blackflames
Aug 18 2005, 03:27 PM
I really don't see why they didn't hook Harry and Hermione up. Okay, I can understand that Ginny has liked him forever and it would seem fit to make it happen, but apart from that and quidditch, they have nothing. (Please excuse my little tangent there) I read an article about Harry and Hermione that had me pretty convinced. For those of you who haven't read it yet you can find it here:
www.hp-lexicon.org/essays/essay-harry-hermione.html
Keep in mind though that if you're planning on reading it, you better set a fairly good portion of your time aside as it's really long. It's really well writtenthough, and it convinced me. (previously an anti-shipper) And if this link has been repeated already, I'm sorry for its repitition.
Dumbledore's Widow
Aug 19 2005, 06:00 PM
It has been over a month now that The Half Blood Prince was released. I was one of those people who finished the book in 2 days. I am still upset about the H/G outcome, but I'm not as livid as I was initially. But H/G still stings, even though they broke up at the end of the book. I hope that Jo is going to 'knock our socks off' in the final book and bring Harry and Hermione together. I guess this is a side effect of being an avid H/Hr shipper---HOPE! I don't mind so much being called delusional. I was deeply hurt and insulted at first, but now, it's almost a badge of honor to be called delusional. I'm kidding of course. I realize that the people who call us delusional are really being cruel, I'm not a fool. But if being delusional means that we are keeping the faith in H/Hr happening, then so be it.
Dominique
Aug 19 2005, 10:15 PM
I totally agree with you Dumbledore's Widow...
Why do other Shipper's care so much about our ship? Why do they care what we think? Why do they care that we support H/HR? I'll tell you why, because they are afraid! Think about it, if they were confident in their
own ship, they wouldn't have to 'put down' other ships, such as ours. They gain confidence in putting down our ship. They call us names and things like that. Now,
not every R/HR Shipper is like that... Personally, I really don't care what other shippers have to say about my ship. It is
my ship, and it always will be.. no matter what.
Harry and Hermione For Ever

-Dominique
Pheniox_Girl
Sep 3 2005, 10:18 PM
Hello Everyone! I'm a first time poster here, but have been a memeber of the HMS Delusional (as i have come to call it) since the realse of GoF and discovered online fanfiction.
I have many views on the H/Hr ship post-HBP (which in my opinion read as a badley written fanfic, but there I am getting off topic.)
I my opinion the possibilty for H/Hr is still very great. I know many have thrown around the theory that Ginny was using a love potion (thought I have not seen it mentioned in this thread) and I find it a very real possibility. There are so many hints in the book for it that it's almost as if JK was yelling it at us.
And yes I [I]have[I] read the interview, and [I]yes[I] I do know she said H/Hr will never happen but I believe that she may have been trying to throw us off.
While I do see R/Hr happening in book 7 I don't see them making it through it. The pair just screams "dead end relationship" to me. And while we speculate romance will not be as big as a factor in book 7 as it was in HBP, I do forsee some H/Hr moments. Whether we have to read between the line or not. And while I still have yet to come up with an opinion on Harry livin gpast book 7, I do not see him have a relationship with anyone at the end if he does. My only hope is that JK will leave us with enough H/Hr goodness to satisfy our ship and the imaginations of H/Hr fanfiction writers out there.
In conclusion of that all I have to say is: Harry and Hermione will sail one way or another, whether in the books or in our imaginations.
As Always~Pheniox_Girl
Dominique
Sep 4 2005, 02:59 AM
Aww Pheniox_Girl you put it so nicely and I agree with you

By the way, welcome to Veritaserum, and I do hope you enjoy your stay here... it's very fun!
Anyways, like I said above, you literally yanked the words out of my mouth. I too, have doubts that H/HR will get together, but I just somehow can't give up... even when J.K Rowling herself it would never happen... I guess i'm just like that..

And I too believe that if R/HR hookup, it will not be for long, but that's beside the point.. I dont think Harry will have time for relationships, as he is trying to defeat Voldemort with
Ron and Hermione, not Ginny, not the DA, but his two best friends.. Even if H/HR don't get together, they will always be my main ship, and I won't abandon the Harry Potter Series, I just love it too much! I may be a little dissapointed but.. what am I saying?! I can't give up on H/HR yet.. there might still be hope

-Dominique
Pheniox_Girl
Sep 4 2005, 04:18 AM
I'm just curious to see if anyone here had considered the possibility of Ginny giving Harry a love potion? I believe it is very possile.
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