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I think they jsut did that for the movie nothing more nothing less, it just made a way better opening then him with a flashlight.

oh my goodness!!! i just don't believe i never noticed that!!! *slaps forehead*

oh the shame!!!! i've watched taht movie so many times, and never realised the incontinuity!!!

i suppose, before i saw the movie first, heard about a report on it that talks about how it begins with "harry under his sheets playing with his wand", only in a very...suggestive type way... it was kinda strange, and that's all i could think about when watching it...just how it could be misinterpreted, not thinking aobut the actual misinterpretaion, if you get me.

i'll stop rambleing now. i realy do think that JK needs to pay a little bit of attention to the way the directors go with the movies. i mean, they are getting further and further from the books! by HBP, they'll probably just have DD take a 'very long vacation" rather than showing the truth!!!!

oh, and the whole not doing magic isn't necessarily a question of dangerous/ not dangerous spells, it's to do with the muggle secrecy thing (OotP, with the dementors) surely if a muggle saw a youth walking around with a bright light coming from the end of a thin strip of wood, people would be at least curious.

deary me. what to do???

i still can't get over the fact i didn't pick up the whole doing magic out of school with lumos thing!!!*slaps forehead again*

At times you are very much more observant than me. I noticed this but I didn't really think much of it. Hmm. . .I wonder if that was a mistake, or they did it purposely. It seems like anyone who knows anything about the Harry Potter world would catch this, especially the director of the Harry Potter movies. I liked te scene though. It was a cool way to open it!

I think it is a homework.but i also agree with [u] you that is Harry is underage and he is not allowed to do magic at home.


MOD EDIT: Minor netspeak found in your post.

Nope, I believe that is a mistake of the director. Students are absolutely forbidden to cast any form of spells outside of school, in muggle inhabited areas.

Nice one for spotting it *

Right, i think that he's doing his homework he wouldnt do it purposely to get a fine when he is underage right?

Well i dont care that much.
But in the book Harry studied about the treatment about the medieval witchies and wizards.
I think Cauron put that in so he could get light for the titel.
But i too think harry is not allowed to do even lumos at home.
But it´s such a short scene so i dont care that much about it.

This is the first question i thought when i first saw the movie! It was like, something isn't right here.....

Well, i think JK has done a lot of mistakes in the films and this one could be one of them but i dont remember but is this mentioned in the book aswell

well it's not the only mistake in movie 2 hermione used magic to fix harry's glasses in diagon alley, i always wondered why wasn't she warned at least.

omg dont u lot get it it was homework so he was aloud to it not like it was the imperious curse anyway it may ov been mistake anyway!!!!

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Underaged Wizards can not do magic outside of School. In Hermiones' case she was in Diagon Alley surrounded by Witches and Wizards so it would have been impossible to tell who cast the spell. Harry on the other hand should not have done magic but they had to start the movie off someway didn't they? It's silly how they don't stick to the Rules that JKR has set down but there's no need to lose our cool over it.

Besty, I suggest you read the Rules. As I said in the Mod Edit, netspeak and the way you worded your post are not acceptable.

I FEEL IN THE EYE OF JKR LUMUS IS A MINOR MAGIC IN THE MAGIC WROLD IS JUST LIKE LIGHTING UP A CANDLE NOTHING MUCH THATS why IT ISNT GIVEN MUCH IMPORTANCE BUT A SPELL WHICH COULD BLOW UP your AUNT OR WHICH COULD MAKE OBJECT FLY SUCH AS THE CAKE IN PART 2 NOW THAT SERIOUS MAGIC THAT KIND OF MAGIC IN NOT PERMITTED NONO NOT IN THE JKG'S BOOKS

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1) You're not allowed to type in capitals as it's considered shouting, which is rude, and:

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Ok? Just thought you might like to know.

I'm really, really sorry mods for stealing your job.

Anyway, on topic.

I always understood why Hermione can use magic in Diagon Alley (being in the prescense of loads of witches and wizards etc). However, I still don't get why Harry doesn't get told off for it in COS, even. Let alone POA.

Any ideas?

P.S. AFSA, you bumped the thread up quite a bit!!!

Hi there Hermione's sister...if you could please leave the moding to the mods...we will get to it...I know you are trying to help but people get resentful...also if you could please have a look at the rules...your siggy is too large the max it can be is 5 lines of text and yours is over that..

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I don't know why Harry keeps getting acussed of Underage Wizardry because he never done any magic in CoS it was Dobby!! And he never ment to swell Aunt Marge up!! Because he never actually got his wand out and cast a spell on her!! And in OotP(well the book anyway) he was defending himself and Dudley from a dementor!!

Maybe because itz a small charm so itz not registering.

Its probually just a movie thing. They have to put different things in the movie to make itmore visually appealing to us. Just like the have to take certain things out for time and other things.

I actually did notice this when I watched the movie. He was doing Lumos under his blankets and I was like...well...that can't be right Its not a huge deal, but considering that a few scenes later he blows his aunt up, I guess maybe he should have been warned twice.

Wow, I feel so stupid that I never noticed this before! It never occured to me... I wonder if it was a screwup or something. Or maybe Lumos is such an insignificant spell that the ministry allows it... I don't know, but whoever caught this, good eye!

I noticed this from the film, but also when I went back and re-read OotP, when Harry and Dudley are attacked by Dementors, Lumos is the first thing that Harry does, before he does the patronus. No letter or anything ever mentions the use of that spell. Now, one could theorize that they wouldn't bother in the shadow of him conjuring something as "big" as a patronus - but since they were kind of out to get him at the time, I think that they'd try and use it to charge him with even more!

I think that there must be some kind of magic that they're permitted to do outside of school. Hermione discusses practicing for school over breaks, as does Ron.

I agrre all the way with Fawkes102 . you jusat said what i was just going to right! i guss since the spell only makes a light so it cant hurt anyone.


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actually, harry uses spells in the book too, when he's at the dursley's...if i'm not mistaken, he says "lumos" when he's trying to figure out what is hiding in the bushes, before the knight bus almost knocks him over.....i don't think it's just the screenwriters, because jo obviously overlooked that fact as well, which is weird, because she seems to put alot of emphasis on how underage wizards are not allowed to do magic outside of school...

that is a very good point, maybe lumos doesn't count as a spell because all it does is create light, so it can't hurt and one in any way shape or form

that is a very good point, maybe lumos doesn't count as a spell because all it does is create light, so it can't hurt and one in any way shape or form

That is an excellent question. Nothing I can add to this thread really except to say congratulations on spotting a rather huge error on Alfonso Cuaron's part.

I thought of that too. There are actually a few times that they do magic outside of school (although it's mainly in the books) but yeah, it was really weird. I guess they just thought it would make a good start of the movie.