For the record im a guy... What bothers me about most girls is that they dont TELL you that they LIKE you. Some girls would think its to forward so they dont say anything how the hell are we supposed to know i mean we are supposed to be idiots Men are dogs girls constantly tell us we are DUMB. So knowing all this then all girls must know that WE are to STUPID to figure out when you like us.So please ladies i mean you dont have to parade it ir where it on a neon shirt just tell us.

.:IlEw.:

ilew--Do you think maybe they're just afraid of rejection? I think that's probably got to be one of the hardest things about being a guy--traditionally, you get stuck doing the asking out and such, risking that rejection.

I don't think it's easy being either gender! And that whole "expecting your lover to be a mind reader" thing is endemic to both sexes as well! lol It's certainly gotten me into trouble in my relationships!

well i am a girl and i really hate rejection, so yeah we girls don't tell guys we like them sometimes because we hate the feeling of rejection.

What really bugs me about guys is that they are so heartless at times. Sorry, i didn't mean all of you guys but a lot of them are. Like i know this guy (well he is my friend) and sometimes he says things to other girls that may hurt their feelings like he says that some of them are ugly and not like quietly but he says it to their face (not that he's ever said that to me but i've heard). They should take more time to respect some girls' sensitivity. Sorry if I offended you guys but I'm just saying, boys around my school are that way.

Guys hate rejection as well.
It's never happened to me, but can you imagine going up to a girl and asking them to dance and them saying no, I mean talk about crash and burn.

Another annoying thing with girls is they all wanna be really serious in a relationship and never look for just a fun fling, unless they are a tottal slut, in which case one of your mates has already slept with her and that ruins it.

One thing I understand with girls is they are never gonna want the exact same thing as me so I understand they want me to take them shopping when I was gonna go to a football match with mates or something. It does annoy me though when they want a relationship to beall about them and me to to do what they want all the time, which always seem to happen.

ok so i am a girl. and i love absolutely love girl vs boy fights..i dont really have anything to complain about the guys out there as i mostly hang around boys. but me and the guys always get into these little "sexist" fights and these are the funny calls that come from me and them:

from the guys:

why is a woman feet so small......so they can get closer to the kitchen sink!

why did the woman cross the road......thats besides the point why wasnt she in the kitchen

why do women wear white on their wedding day....because all house hold apliances come in white!

dont worry girls i got them back!

from me to the guys:

how do you kill a man....tell him to jump off his ego and land on his IQ

Why is psychoanalysis a lot quicker for a man than a woman? - Because when it's time to go back to childhood, he's already there.

What's the difference between Big Foot and an intelligent man?
Big Foot's been spotted several times.


as you can tell out fights are mainly us throwing every sexist joke we know at each other and the first one to run out wins!

Ah, well I just love boys vs. girls fights, as long as two conditons are met:
1) I am not involved
2) The boys win
Since I love to avoid trouble, I generally avoid girls but from the guys I know who don't avoid them , I hear one very common complaint-that gits girls are too concerned about their precious reputations-they'll always lie about themselves. Agreed, it's part of the pressures society places on them, but if they had guts, they'd be able to stand up to theses pressures.
Don't hate me, I didn't say all this

One thing I have to say in girls favour, is for me or another boy if you like a girl you just ask them out and it's all done and you get at least one date with them, for a girl it is harder as they traditionally don't do the asking out.

Yeah. but I thought that girls were going to break that particular stereotype? I mean, what's stopping them?

the only reason guys complain about girls who want to keep their reputations is because keeping their reputations means the guys dont get any and the reason society places the pressures on the women not the men is because women can handle it...the things that gets my blood boiling about men is that if something gets to hard for them they quit! and they still want the image of being the big strong tough ones well excuse me men think they work harder then we do and have more strength and that women have it easy...why dont they give birth to a kid and see how easy that is ok ok i am only joking (sorta)..girls make me uch more angry then guys...i mainly hang around boys i find ridding moterbikes and wrestling boys much more apealing then talking about how cute heath ledger is (even if he is hot) ang how skinny ashlee simpson is getting!...

girls are trying to break the stereotype that boys only ask girls out not the other way around but give us a break it's built in...we may be getting more forward and stuff but we cant completely get over the fairytale fantasy that some handsom guy is going to come ask us out and sweep us off our feet hehehe

What Ticks Me Off About Girls
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There isn't a sport that only BOYS can play. For example, when my friends that are boys are playing a sport, a girl will ask if she can join. Someone says yes, but I WALK AWAY. That's how furiated I am.

Plus, you can't seem to get away from girls. They feel left out. I don't care. They break a nail. I don't care. They scrape their legs. I don't CARE!!

That's how much I'm furiated with girls, and why I'm not getting married.

I hate those pirssy girls that complain when they break a nail as well....and i sort of agree with the girls and sport thing...i think girls should be able to join in a game BUT cant be treated any different..i hate it when boys are to scared to tackle or stop a girl in sport in case they hurt them...if they want to play a boys game let them, but they cant expect to be treated any different then the other boys!

lozza-cm, I'm one of the boys you hate. I'm afraid to tackle girls because they'll get all emo. Plus, I don't want to get hurt myself. Self-defense.

Ok, I am a girl and the whole sport things bugs me to because I am treated special. If I am going to play I want to be treated fairly, but most of the time they guys think I am too girly to play so I am just kind of in the background. It is nice if you don't want to tackle a girl, but if they are playing then it's because they want to be treated fairly. I think that they should be allowed to play whatever they want though, it's the same with guys.

Oh, and about the whole dating thing, I would never ever tell I guy I liked him or ask him out. I would be way too scared and embarassed. I know that it's hard for guys too, but I wouldn't do it.

What bugs me about guys, and I am not saying that all guys are like this, but the sexist comments. Seriously, that really bugs me because some of my friends say stuff like this and except me laugh and I really don't think it's funny!

I don't really have a problem with guys because most of them I know are awesome, but some of them need to grow up!

Most of them will, HP_RULES! I truly hated the middle school stage...guys are, well...getting their hormones, but they don't always know what to do with them! A lot of it comes out in some pretty infantile, and even crude, ways. Hopefully by high school they can start acting like they have a brain in their heads again...

My son is 20 now. But when he was 13, it was as if some weird illness hit him! He would hide his head under pillows if anyone kissed on TV. He wasn't comfortable hugging me. I had to back off and give him a year or two to adjust. Then he was just fine again.

In my opinion, if the sexist, crude wisecracks continue past the age of 15, the guy is either very immature, or he has a rotten attitude about women. Guys that have to express themselves that way after that age are guys to steer clear of!

~Darcy

P.S. My son is not like that.

i hate those vain lads that i so obsessed with sport that they think that they can get whatever girl they can . . . well i guess no i'm on the point i hate girls that are vain too! when i go to the toilet at lunch or break i hate the fact that a load of girls are stood at the mirror plastering on make-up and making their hair absolutely perfect for those lads that don't like them for them but only like them for their looks . . . which shouldn't matter anyway. but you know if they want to look like a barbie doll then fine. if there is anything i vaule it's the right to your own opinion and the right to look like you want to etc so ye if they want to fine but all i've just wrote is my opinion.

What I hate the most about guys is that they dress so badly .at my school they mostly want to look like thugs and gangsters.Thay are also perverts.not all boys.All the guys i know are awesome.I personally find that nerds are way hotter than the wanna be machos.Some boys think girls aren't any good at sports and that's so wrong.

guys,treat girls right and they'll like you because of it.Don't act like someone you're not.

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hate my old crush he is dating my old friend and guess wat he might [be] related [to] me also hate when they start talking about girls in certain ways

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Know what i hate about guys, the fact you go to a dance (and they're gone on Vactation so they are not there) and you dance with four guys, none of which did you ever like! Four! and they say you cheated on them. But barley a month after you dumped them, you found out that they were using you, and that they had been dating another girl for over a year!!!
Opps I'm ranting here.

mmmmm well lets see...

boys have very bad habits especially with boys who smoke .
take my dad for instense.. he smokes that much he is eventually chain smoking.. i hate the smell it is awful and a disgusting habit to take up.

however the usual bad habits for guys are farting, burping, picking there noses etc.

one thing however for the girls is makeup. i hate it when girls wear sooo much makeup that you can tell that they are fake. and also really fat women who wear hipsters..it is horrible that i actually laugh and pretty much throw up...(disgusting) there stomach bulges over there hipstere which make it a very bad look.

Well it's quite good if a guy stops because then you can just keep playing and score ! haha !
Oh yeah - i think guys should ask us out, it's more traditional and i'm a wuss! ! ! Well it's more romantic, (not that most guys you see these days are romantic) if they ask you out!
What i really hate is when you're walking down teh street and you pass a guy and he says something really inappropriate, becaue then yuo get all scared because yous ee him everywhere and think he's trailing you. That always happens to me and my mates, guys say something and then we see them everywhere and get really freaked out *i say agin WUSS* Although attention from guys isn't bad, they just ahve to learn how to channel it into nice attention!
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I think it would be kinda cool if a girl would be the one to ask me out. I'm taken now, but when I was single I thought that if a girl would be the one to ask me out, I would marry her on the spot j/k . It's just nice to know that girls have backbones too.

- Phoenix

Truth is most of us don't have backbones though. I'd be scared enough if a guy asked me out, let alone if i had to ask him out!!!
I can understand why guys are scared though becasue girls can be pretty cruel when turning guys down! It's true !
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Hmm, one thing .. lol. I'd probably say girls who wear too much make-up and horrid clothes. I'd say about 15% of guys find that attractive, if that. I find nothing more attractive than a girl who has light make-up done nicely and some stylish clothes on. The Laddette (TomBoy) type of girl who drinks like a sailor and dresses like a prostitute reeks of desperation.

Thankfully most girls don't seem to be like that, not that I know of anyway. The one's that do though .. ugh lol.

Yes many girls are complete twits in that way. Even we ( as in the non-prostitute comunity out there ) can see that it is not cool, to look like a prostitute and we do as much as we can to avoid them. *girls are charming creatures *coughcoughcough* we are always nice about each other*
I can't look like that even if i try, because i can't wear lipstick (lips look WEIRD like that) and i can't apply eyeliner. So i would have trouble looking like them *shame, cough cough cough*
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i'm a girl--!!

one thing i hate: guys are Womenizers!! i hate that!! arghhh!! dirves me maaaad!!

farting people!!

burping boys!!

and.. er.. i can't use bad words here, so.. i think that's all!!

regarding about the make up.. i think girls use it because that make them feel prettier.. i don't wear tons of make up.. just eye liner, but i mean, if you're going out, you won't show up with a ghost face, will you?

I'm a guy, and I hate it when girls flaunt their sexuality to try to entice guys.

When girls wear way too much makeup.

When girls are mean to other girls just because they are jealous.

Girls who go after guys who are already taken.

Girls who live to cause drama.

Some other things that annoying girls do...

- Phoenix

im a girl, for the record.
ok one thing that annoys me about boys are that they dont show their feelings!!!!!! they especially dont want to look emotional or anything around their friends. like last week this guy was going to ask my best friend out but one of his friends walked by so he chickened out because he was so embarassed to say anything in front of his friend. that always happens with guys it seems like.

with the whole girls and makeup thing, i think it's disgusting and barely wear any ever. i think people do wear it though so they feel more comfortable with themselves. i kinda feel that way when i were it even though it feels icky on my eyes lol.

Oh Pheonix core, *flicks hair* i never knew you felt that way *pouts lips* ! ! ! jk


That's true, show some feelings guys!
I wonder what it'd be like if girls were the ones who were all "cool" with their friends, and guys were the giggly ones. That'd be weird !

icky - i love that word
If you put on the natural makeup it can look quite nice, girls who slop it on,though, look horrid!
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Back off girly!!! *hiss* j/k

Hey, not all guys are a brick wall when it comes to feelings, some guys consider showing their feelings not to be a weakness, but rather as something that makes life more interesting.



*giggle*

- Phoenix

Well some do show feelings, i admit, but most don't. Or not for ages at least!
One of my freinds (who is a guy *applaude*) is a really great guy and we are like best mates, but the most i hear about his day is pretty much "its aight". Open up man!

I am so not amused
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haha, lol...Interesting thread. well...i'm not ashamed to say that i'm kinda of a tomboy ; but no killian, i am NOT a prosititue or a sl*ut. Ew...I'm disgusted by those types. I mean its' alright to be 'girly', but srsly no need to cross the limit. k, back to the fact. i'm a tomboy...I'm loud & bold, I hardly wear makeup, you'll be very lucky to ever see me in a dress and sadly to say, I have my pride. well...I have a few guyfriends. lol, there great company to joke around & prank with. haha. but somethings that bug me about guys (not neccerily my friends) are the fact that some of them...*sigh* are sexist, and think that girls are weak and are just toys to hurl around with (luckily, most guys have sense to see that girls are just as powerful)...I hate the fact that some guys, feel as if they can't talk about 'deep issues' cause it means that their a wussy...pfft.. and I hate the fact that they always 'expect certain stuff from a girl' ....pft.

so you hate guys who are wussys? wouldn't you like them to be slightly emotional though? rather than completly hard and tough?
yes sexist ones are horrid, many of them nearby in town, not gonna go into details but one of my friends was told by a boy that "they'd like some of that..." lots of expereinces like that, grrr
yeah they shouldn't expect anything from us except us!
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It's not as much about guys being "tough" around their friends, and girls; I think it's more in public. I am a guy by the way. When I talk to a girl on the phone, or on IM, I tend to be more open.

I am seeking advice...

Ok, a girl in one of my classes, and I had been talking for a while. Then when we could work on something in "small groups" I turned my desk around to face her, and the other two people. She had been lookiing at me too often for me not to notice, then rubbed her leg against mine and did not move it. Then I made eveidently the wrong move in asking the person who sat next to her if she had a date to Prom, 5 minutes later she knew. That big mouth err... Anyways, now she has been ignoring me somewhat, she still glances every once in a while, but I don't know what that means, and I don't know what to do!!!

Man I feel like an idiot.

amortentia, i agree with you, i think guys should not be afraid to show their emotions! when they are just tough and feel like they always have to be, its just annoying... i think a guy who can show his emotions is comfortable with himself and just downright lovable. LoL
so, guys, dont be afraid to show your emotions. kapeesh?

Well if she *hmm* rubbed her leg against yours she obviously likes you ( although that is very forward of her ) She probably thinks you don't like her very much and so she's ignoring you but keeps looking at you because she likes you still. I suggest try talking to her and be really nice. Hopefully she'll open if you show her that you like her... (do you like her?) then ask her out, if she says no then you'll just have to live with it, but if she say yes then it's all good.
If however you don't like her in that way ( you didn't make yourself very clear ) then just talk to her and be friendly but not overly friendly, hopefully she'll get the hint that you want to be friends.
Well whichever way you feel i reckon that's how you should handle it... any other ideas anyone?
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What that girl did wasn't very subtle! She obviously likes you, or at least, thinks you're attractive. So if you like her, then tell her up front, or I guess, return the flirting, as she might just be flirting as well, or she might have done it by accident.

If you don't like her, then just try to ignore it and treat her like you would any other friend, and maybe she'll get the message. And if she doesn't get the message, then tell her, but let her down gently.
Hope that helps a bit...


Okay... What I dislike aout guys...

That they play games. They act like they like you, but then when you ask them, they refuse, but afterward they just flirt with you more. This drives me insane!

The fact that they aren't open. At least, none that I've met. They aren't sensitive or emotional at all, ever.

The fact that they act differently around their friends than they do they're girfriend, this also drives me insane! They always deny that they do this, but they do!!!

I'll come up with more later.

Hey thanks for the advice amortenita_lover, and zoabella! Well I guess there's nothing left to do but throw my inhabitions to the wind, and go for it!

I don't like girls that tan a lot, almost to the point they don't look normal. It's one thing in the summer, but in the winter...Not so good.

i love this thread. lol.

i still am saying that guys dont show their feelings, most of the time. there is one guy i know that is really good looking and he has a lot of friends, guys and girls. he tells me a lot about himself and what he thinks of his girlfriend and stuff like that.

but on the other hand there is this guy that i like and i cant tell if he likes me becasue he is so shy and quiet. i always have to say something to him to get him to talk to me and it isnt like that with him and other girls. lol.

there are some guys in my class that never show emotion except for some and they are cry babys sometimes. lol. i totally agree with you zoabella, they act like they like you and then they deny it and flirt. it just doesnt make sense.

I pretty much agree with all the girls. Guys dont really show that much emotion, and not too many will admit that they like you. Its weird because if everyone got over their feelings a little and just admitted to likeing someone, and not careing what that person thought, imagine how many people would feel better that they got the feelings out. (Hopefully that made sense). Too bad that probably wont happen lol. well thats all i have to say for now.
Lates,
Courtney

I'm not that crazy over guys not showing their feelings (I'm a girl by the way). I just hate, okay no, stongly dislike the overly sensitive ones. One guy I guess sort of liked me and wanted my number so I gave it to him and that night he called me. Then immediatley he started talking about how he always liked me and just spilling out all his feelings and it was kind of creepy. I didn't even know his last name. At least he could have started the conversation differently instead of being so up front and open. I guess in another situation it would have been okay but I didn't even really know him, so it was kind of weird .

What really bugs me most about guys though (just some) is that they flirt with other girls when they already have a girlfriend. No one has done it to me (not that I know of), but they flirt with me when their gilrfriend is near by. Like one guy, we've had lockers by eachother since junior high, he's always flirty and "complimentary" with me and other girls, being insensitie to the one he dates. I don't know how she tolerates it, he treats her so badly. This doens't really affect me so I don't know why I'm so bothered by it, but it's just awkward. I mean what are you supposed say to guy like that who openly flirts with you.

Ok well he went too far, it'd be nice to know him before he tells you all that but in general more sensitive guys would be nice.
This could be a long story:
Basically me and my friend took a pile of pics over the sumemr and she showed them to her friends at school, (because she is at a dif. school to me) and all her mates were like saying how nice i looked ( ) and one guy wanted my email, so she gave it to him.
We quickly became friends and he was always nice to me, he flirted constantly and always said how nice i looked. We got on really well and he said as soon as we met up (i hadn't met him at this point) he was going to ask me out, but he wanted to meet up first. ( so did i ) and then my friend told me that he was flirting with other girls at school so i kinda got annoyed and ignored him. but we became friends again - even if i didn't flirt with him as much, and then a different freind was at my house and was acting all weird to him and he refused to talk to me since them. *sigh* ...and he was so cute that REALLY sucked.
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I have just thought of something else that annoys me about the finer sex, courtesy of little_aussie_witch92. I don't like how girls say like all the time! It drives me like crazy! haha

it's because we watch so much rubbish tv that we pick up words like that. join us in the "accent" thread, i'm pretty sure we'ce been discussing that for ages there ( little_aussie_witch *cough*!!! )
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Thanks for the invite amortentia_lover, but I'm afraid I am going to have to decline. I get enough "likes," and all that stuff from the girls at school, and my 13 year old sister.

Even though I am a girl, that irritaes me as well. Even some guys say "like" every other word. But honestly, it makes them sound so stupid!

I don't like the kind of guys that carry a comb around, or a mirror, or obsess over their looks for an hour, to make themselves look like they just woke up or something. Really, that just shows that he's trying too hard. That just shows self-absorbment, and who wants to be with someone like that?

Like, hehe. Sometimes I can never help saying "like" all the time. Like when I'm telling a story I always say "she was like this and I was like...." It's a habit.

But anyways, I'm like you zoabella, I hate guys like that too. Even girls. It takes me a while to get dressed but I don't spend hours and I also don't look in the mirror every 5 minutes.

i agree with you i mostly wear sweaters and like sweats (pants) and i only wear foundation so yea

what i hate about a guy is like if you are just dating a guy and like a friend of yours just told you that he wants to date you and you have to give him the news that your taken and then he starts fighting for you. i mean why fight for a girl when shes taken to a guy she really likes and when it would be better to stay friends with instead of dating. i think its stupid when guys that are your friends end up likeing you.
i also hate when their acting like complete jerks when their around their friends and their the complete oppsite once their friends are out of site. its like they dont want to be seen talking to a friend of theirs thats not a guy. but the sad thing is i get called a guy like every day just becuz i stand up for my self so if i get made fun of i'll punch the guy for making fun of me. so yea but i also grew up with 2 older brothers so some guys at school are afraid of me. since most of my brothers friends are my friends as well even if they are like 6 years older than me they know what ive been through in life.




*Mrs. Ron Weasley*

me too, i mean girls seem silly when they are totally obsessed with looks, but guys just seem really stupid when they do that...
Like... no i'm kidding.

I hate girls who are overly obsessive - i wear some makeup and nice clothes, but i wouldn't go round wearing a corset (*cough*some of my friends*cough*) because it's in fashion!!! I wear what i like and i like how i look! so yea... lol
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I barely wear clothes at all...j/k

I like to look nice, but I don't obsess about my looks. I know what you guys mean about the guys who look in the mirror every five minutes, it's really annoying. It takes me about 45 mins to get ready in the morning (including shower) and then I don't look at myself again but maybe once again that day.

I don't like it when girls wear a bunch of makeup, when just a little looks so much better. Makeup in moderation ladies, moderation.

- Phoenix

i use it in moderation! i don't wear foundation but i wear mascara and concealer with lip balm/gloss. I hate eyeliner, no one can apply it well without a professional makeup artist and everyone looks stupid with it! Why bother?!
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