in the chamber of secrets, it says that the chamber was opened 50 years ago. if so, how did they close it? how was the monster stopped then? they accused hagrid of it before, how did they prove him innocent? and why did they take him away again in this book, if he was innocent the last time???

doesn't someone have an answer? or at least a comment of some sort?

and why was hagrid taken in again to azkaban after he had already been proven innocent the first time the chamber was opened?

Well, you Fudge. I think he arrested Hagrid just because to let the people know they were doing something. Or maybe Lucius Malfoy made him do it?

And I always thought that Tom Riddle closed closed the chamber himself, because Hogwarts would be closed if the attacks continued.

I don't think he WAS 'proven innocent'.

If you remember from the second book, Tom Riddle accused Hagrid, which then resulted in Hagrid getting expelled and having his wand broken. It doesn't clearly say if he was sent to Azkaban or not- I personally would have issues with the wizarding community sending a 13 year old to an adult wizarding prison, but anyways.... he's accused, expelled but I don't think there was any REAL proof that it was him.

So Dumbledore signed Hagrid on as the game keeper. Then 50 years later, the chamber was opened again and so Hagrid was taken in as he was the likely suspect. Why they waited so long to take him in if they thought it was him the first time round seems a little silly to me.

But Harry and Co were able to prove that it wasn't Hagrid, so it was on THEN that he was cleared.

Yeah, Hagrid wasn't proven innocent, but was, I doubt, allowed to go to prison at the age of 13, so was taken on as gamekeeper.

Riddle closed the chamber becasue after it had been opened, Dumbledore started watching him more closely. Knowing he couldn't keep going on the way he was, he made the diary so he could come back and reopen it.

I am guessing Tom Riddle closed it. He was the only person that could open it. Once the attacks had stopped, the teachers probably assumed that the Chamber closed.

I don't think Riddle "closed" it - more like once Hagrid was charged with the crime he just stopped opening it.

Hagrid, while never truly proven guilty, he wasn't proven innocent either. Tom told the authorities about Aragog, and that was good enough for them to snap his wand. As to why he was taken to Azkaban, they probably thought that the attacks would stop once he wasn't around Hogwarts anymore.

I'm a bit confused though. After Tom Riddle became Voldemort, didn't someone make the connection that he opened the Chamber, since they found out that he really was the heir of slytherin due to the Gaunts and stuff? It just seems a bit silly that they would think that Tom Riddle did a good deed in putting someone away even though he is a dark lord. A bit strange.

Vincent,

To answer your question. Remember that when Riddle stole the locket and the cup, he disappeared forever. People never heard of Tom Riddle anymore. The only people who knew he was Voldemort was his fellow classmates and Death Eaters, former classmates. So when Riddle disappeared, Voldemort was born. People could have put two and two together, but remember that everybody thought Tom was an good person who would use his knowledge to good. They probably couldn't see Tom becoming Voldemort.

Oh, so are you saying that not everybody know that Voldemort used to be Tom Riddle? I never thought of that....Very interesting.

I think riddle realized that if the chamber stayed open the school would close, and he was in love with the school so he didnt want that to happen. so he pins it on hagrid and closes the chamber and he gets away scott free and gets to stay at school.

Yea because when Harry returns from the chamber with ginny and the diary Dumbledore says something like "very few people know Lord Voldemort was once called Tom Riddle, I taught him myself 50 years ago."

Why would only very few people know that Voldy is Tom Riddle? Wouldn't a lot of people notice when an expecially gifted wizard dissapeared, and around that same time an especially gifted wizard just seemed to appear out of nowhere? And if DD and some others know who voldy really is, why don't they tell more people?

Well, when TR opend the chamber 50 years ago he opend and closed it all the time because otherwise the basilisk would haven been roming the castle constantly. so when he framed hagrid he just stoped opening the chamber and the attacks stoped and everybody thought in hagrid they got the right man and therefor taking him zu askaban 50 years later when the attacks started again assuming it was him again.

what I don't get is, why nobody ever figured out befor where the entrance is and what the monster was. They keep saying how intelligent DD is. he was a teacher at the time when mouning myrtle died so why did he never go and ask her ghost what had happend and than put two and two together?

But this is probably part of another thread that I haven't come across yet since I am a newbie here and haven't gone through everything.

later guys

wow...that sure settled my question...

by the way, RABH, in your last post, you had quite a few speling errors and a lot of it was hard to get through...

thanks a bunch...that was a question i had had for ages.

excellent.

thats all for now..

thanks guys

Emm Xo_harrypotter_fan_oX, I'm not to sure what your last thread was about.

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i though it was salazar slytherin that made it and opened it the first time and the heir of salazar slytherin is vd

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hagrid never proven innocent, DD just trusted him, also it stopped because riddle did not want hogwarts for various (horcurx) reasons, and riddle could habve been cought.