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Ollivander
Am I the only one who thinks that Bellatrix has a crush on our dear pal Voldy? I realize that it's a one-sided relationship since Voldemort is pretty much incapable of love...

Hey hey hey hear me out here! Bellatrix is easily the most fanatical of the Death Eaters--always the quickest to support Voldemort, the one who tries to keep up his good name...remember at the beginng of HBP when Snape suggests that there are secrets that Voldemort doesn't tell Bella and she gets all ticked?

And then at the end of OotP when Bellatrix says that Voldy taught her Dark magic...maybe there was something going on between them before Voldy got really really evil?

I really don't know, this is just a suspiscion I have...give me your thoughts on this please!
GinevraPotter
Wow! Well, anything's possible, you know. Bellatrix is married- Rodolphus is the name of her husband, I believe? It is certainly undeniable that Bellatrix worships Voldemort- but whether her feelings are romantic, I'm not quite so sure. I think Bellatrix figures that if she constantly proclaims her undying loyalty to Voldemort, he won't have any cause to doubt or suspect her; she's afraid of him, of course, who wouldn't be? She's trying to secure her position as one of his most trusted servants; it's also quite a bragging right, I must say. I think Bellatrix also wants a bit of power herself, among the Death Eaters; and being one of Voldemort's closest mates might help a bit. She has an ego, certainly, and is in complete terror of her master; she doesn't want to do anything to get on his bad side. But I don't think she feels romantically towards him, though. She might, but I doubt it.
PADFOOT'S avenger
try not to think about chalk-white, evil, snakey, slit-eyed, split-souled men and the the insanely creepy (yet very talented) magic groupies who follow them
fresh-pickled toad
i agree i think that ballatrix does love voldermort. i mean she has killed sirius whats a little cheating on her husband going to do
Lithium
Haha oh man crazy thing, I was just talking to my friend about this. I don't think it would happen just because it's Voldemort and he "doesn't need anyone, doesn't need love" ect ect. But I would definatley support it if it happened. It would be such a fun and twisted relationship biggrin.gif .
Ollivander
I definitely agree with Lithium...not likely to happen, but it would be great if it did.

I didn't remember Bellatrix's husband...is he part of the Death Eaters too? Well, yes, duh he is, but is he famous for anything in particular?

If not, then it could be very likely that Bellatrix has a crush on Voldy since her marriage turned out to be a flop or something. laugh.gif
Lithium
Haha to answer your question Ollivander, Rodolphus Lestrange is a death eater. Uhm I can't imagine what he would be famous for except being chucked into Azkaban with his wife and Barty Crouch junior for pledging their undying devotion to Voldie.
Which leads me to my next point, whether Voldemort would ever fall in love with Bella she quite obviously loves him. She likes to rant about how she is the most faithful death eater bla bla bla and plus she seems like the type of girl who would be attracked to power and Voldemort is VERY powerful.
hpcrazy
I think that its possible. Because like Bellatrix used to always talk about Voldemort and think that she was his favourite and stuff. unsure.gif
bubotuber_pus
Ollivander, you're definitely not the only one who thinks there's something between Bellatrix and LV. I mean exactly- I'm not sure if we can call it love- can they both love, I'm not sure of this and if it's like this, only Bellatrix can love in her own twisted way. It seems that she worships LV so much, but imagine sex with LV... disgusting unsure.gif maybe she's the one attracted to strange sex, though. biggrin.gif
Anyway, I've always thought that if LV wanted have a child, she'd be the perfect evil mummy. Beware! tongue.gif
PADFOOT'S avenger
i just cant see these two together...voldemort doesnt have love for anything, just respect for loyalty

bella definately is in love with voldy but it's in more of a nasty house-elfish way i think...maybe someone should write a fan fic to bring this relationship to life...it would have to be a sick, twisted, gross fan fic...but a fan fic no less
Pixymajik
I'll support this smile.gif

I think there's definatly an infactuation with LV on Bellatrix's part. She wants to be right in there and I think it's more than a power thing. She might think that she's in love with him, I'm not sure if it is actually love or if she's completely in awe of who he is and what he represents. I'd be interested to know more about their past, if there was one at all- we don't know how old she is, except that she's described as being adult during while Crough Jr was 'young', so I'd say she'd have to be Sirius' age if not older--- and if she was older, then maybe she went to school with Tom Riddle and knows who he really is.

I don't think there's anything on Voldy's part though.
getborn
it could happen,but what does voldemort know about love?isn't voldemort a bit too old for her?
Zora
So, I don't think there is any romantic feeling between them.
Voldemort isn't a human. He's more a Dark creature or a zombie. He can spread angst and horror, but no love. He doesn't understand love and he doesn't need it. I'm sure it's unpossilbe that Voldemort can LOVE someone. There are no positiv feelings in him.
There is a part in OotP wich says it clearly:
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"There is a room in Department of Mysteries," interruptet Dumbledore, " that is keept locked all times. It contains a force that is more wonderful and more terrible than death, than human intelligence, than the forces of nature. It's also, perhaps, the most mysterious of the many subjects to study that reside here. It's the power held within that room that you posses in such quantities and wich Voldemort has not at all. That power took you to save Sirius tonight. That power also saced you from possession of Voldemort, because he yould not bear to reside in a body so full of the forve he detests. In the end, it mattered not that you could not close your mind. It was your heart that saved you."

I think this quote says all, isn't it?
I eliminate any possiblity of real love between them.

Good, next possiblity: Bella loves Voldemort, but he doesn't.
Sure, Bella is Voldemorts most fanatical Death Eater and absolute loyal, but you can't say there must be a relationship on grounds of her loyalty. Moreover she is married with Rodolphus. Okay, the marriage could be a fiasco or arranged... but I don't think that she really loves LV. She wondered him and I could imagine that she is the best Death Eater of all and so there is a special bond of... hm, of what?... of intimacy between them, but no love and no sex... no pysical intimacy, you know.

Final result: I don't think there is love or any lust between master and student.

(I hope you can understand my bad english... I hope very much.)

Edit: Oh sorry, I've now read the rules. sad.gif
Is it right that I must not post this meanig here? Sorry, sorry, sorry... sad.gif
ashleigh07
Zora, yes if you're not a supporter you shouldn't be posting here. wink.gif That's why, a hot tip - as a newbie, it's always handy to lurk around a bit...see how the site works, and of course, read the rules that are in place. Saves you from getting told off by a mod... wink.gif

That goes the same to you too, getborn. wink.gif

Just a reminder folks - all ships threads unless clearly stated otherwise, are for supporters only. Put simply, if you don't support the ship, then please do not post in the thread. Makes enough sense right?
Pixymajik
QUOTE (getborn @ Sep 4 2005, 03:56 PM)
isn't voldemort a bit too old for her?

Yes but then does that really matter? Spoiler- In HBP Tonks and Lupin get together and there's apparently a fair age gap there.

And we don't know exactly how old Bellatrix is.

Our maths skills tell us that at the time of the 6th book, LV is about 60 years old (16 year old self in the diary for 50 years in Book two + 4 years). Bellatrix on the other hand, I believe is older than Narcissa and Andromeda (Tonks' mother) from pg 105 Aussie Edition.

However HOW OLD that actually IS is debatable. We know that Sirius' favourite cousin was Andromeda, so for easiness sake, make them the same age. It's estimated from JKR's website that Sirius was 21 when he went to Azkaban so make him 35 when he died. Bellatrix could be as old as 40 or more,

So in summary, LV is 60, Bellatrix could be 40 and in the wizarding world, age doesn't really matter when they could live to be several hundred years old anyway.

I still support this wink.gif
bubotuber_pus
And I support you smile.gif There's a famous couple in the country I live. She's about 30 and he is almost 60, but he looks great. They made an album together and fell in love while recording it (at least they say so). Age doesn't count that much if you're in love- nothing counts then (or almost nothing).

LV and Bellatrix are so strong characters-in a bad way- that they suit together. She said she had been his student, he had taught her many things. It doesn't change the fact that deep inside her heart she admires him. And he was a handsome guy in the past biggrin.gif
purebloodprincess3339
I think this would be an awesome relationship! Who knows? Bella could change Voldie's mind about love. 'Course that would mean that he would no longer fear Harry's weapon...
Pixymajik
Actually thinking about it, she's probably even older than that. If Andromeda has an early 20's daughter (Tonks), then she could be in her 40's. So Bellatrix could be up to late 40s/early 50s.

That really doesn't make it that much of an age difference at all.

Plus there the whole 'evil' business. One can't forget that wink.gif
GryffindorSeekerHP07
I don't really think that will happen because it's not really possible after all LV can't love anyone. But I think Bellatrix has a crush on him, it's kind of like an obsession. She was like "i am his most loyal servant" and stuff to Snape. And she killed her own cousin for LV so she must really like him. But I guess relations don't really matter when your evil and their good. If that did happen though i think it would add a pretty good twist to the story!! BTW Does anyone know whatever happened to Bellatrix's husband?? Didn't he die or something???
Grintish
It's a bit of an odd combination.....besides....I thought one of the main things that made Harry different from Voldermort, was love. Voldy can't love right? He never has loved or been loved and never can love....especially now we know his soul is in loads of bits!

So unless it is being suggested that this 'relationship' is purely physical.....but that's not a topic to be discussed on this board!
Princess_Celtic_Jewel
great idea! plus i think that Bella IS in love with voldemort. but theres no way that i think that he cuold be in love with her. He is immune to love (at least thats what i get from the books...... what about you?) !
Hermione_FaNaTiC
am,.... wink.gif I am wondering.........Even though volde "says" and so did everyone else "Say" he has no love but do we REALLY know what is going on when the death eaters are gone and Bella nd LV are talking wink.gif Something to think about huh.gif
sirus blacks lovechild
ummm.....i think somebody made a mistake when calculating lv's age. somebody said 16 yr old in 50yr old diary diary + 4yrs =60. its actually 70 yrs old. some body also said it don't matter if he can't love if its a physical relationship which is true but maybe he feels an emotion for bella that is his love pushing through but it wont come so he doesnt object to bellas love. i think they're a great together and hey sugar daddys are commin back into fashion(lol) smile.gif tongue.gif
harrysgirl
I think there's something going on...maybe not love btu there's a slight crush there...I don't even know why I think thats seeing as Voldemort has a tendency to be slightly bipolar and would kill her if he came home and she didn't have dinner waiting (yes, I'm joking) but I think they have some secret relationship
james pickles
are you people missing the main part of voldemort?? voldemort cannot and does not want to love. JKR could have now maid this any plainer in the books. dumbledore has said it countless times in books 5 and 6. he cannot love, if voldemort could love then he wouldnt be evil, because evil cannot love it is just lust, but voldemort doesnt show any affection towards bellatrix, i think its plainly obvious has never loved and never will do.
*dementor*
i agree with james pickles because thats the only power harry has and voldemort does not (love) and you should all knw that if you've read the book, so how could he all of a sudden like someone? smile.gif
james pickles
thank you dementor and your right you should all know if you have read the books that harry has the strongest of all magic in him which voldemort does not have.
vivvo
Yeah, I agree with you.
She seems to suck up to him a bit, and she does seem to be 'very dedicated'. I don't think Voldemort will ever get with her though. He doesn't love anyone and I don't think he ever will. I think he's to busy with his plans to even think about that. He seems abitious and ambitious people don't let anything get in their way.
*dementor*
But the point is voldemort cannot lik so its impossible. and anyway he says his death eaters are like his slaves because their definitely not friends since hes never had one. sleep.gif
*potter*
i agree with dementor and james pickle and vivvo voldemort never wanted any friends even when he was small he wanted to go to diagon alley by himself not accompanied by dumbledore he doesnt even think of friends so no way is he with bellatrix
Hermione Nymphadora
I'm of two minds on this topic. On one hand, Voldemort doesn't know how to love nor does he want to learn. He prefers being solitary except he occassionally likes to have someone grovel at his feet (*cough Wormtal cough*). However, just believe he isn't interested in love doesn't mean he couldn't be with anyone. I'd say that if he ever had a "relationship" with someone, including Bellatrix, it would most likely be purely physical and he would cast the person aside when he was done with them.

HermyNymph
*dementor*
HermioneNymphadora, if you think its going to happen the way you said then it wont be actual thing so whats the point... rolleyes.gif
isnt thi ship suppposed to mean that they actually like each other?
sharedslythaccount
Bella & Voldy aren't an item sorry. It would be funny though. wub.gif
Sorting Hat
What a nice ship! smile.gif I think that Bella could be in love with her Master. Student love for master - it wouldn't be the first time in history. Bella is almost fanatic about Voldy but why? Crush could be a perfect answer. No matter she is married to someone else. As we know, LV cannot love so she could not be with him and she married someone else. Typically. I don't think that there was a romance between them, even long time ago. I can imagine that some girls maybe had a crush on him when he was a school boy, as we know that he was a very good looking boy, almost all teachers liked him for his great knowledge and skills and he was some sort of a hero in his so called "gang" in the school. But, Bella, I think, was not born then yet. I think Voldy now should be around 66-70 years old (in CoS, the chamber first time was opened 50 years ago, when Tom was 16 years old, so 16+50 = he was 66 years old in the book 2), but Bella should be around the same age as Sirius, but Sirius and James were classmates, so Bella should be around 35-40 years old or less. So we see, that Voldy couldn't have a crush on Bella because when she was in age when girls start liking boys he already was pure evel with splitted soul and I think he started making horcruxes soon after leaving the school. So, desperate crush on Voldy might be possible and that would be a perfect side story line smile.gif

I also agree with Hermione Nymphadora. He could have "relationship" with someone, but without love, lust or crush. Really, can you imagine that Voldy is virgin? tongue.gif I mean, he always took everything he wanted, even toys of other children when he was just a kid (remember Tom's box full of stolen toys). He takes and gets all he wants and needs. The same could be with women.
HPFan792
I think even if Bellatrix like Voldemort it wouldnt matter because Voldemort i dont think could ever like her back in that way.I just couldnt picture Voldemort with a girlfriend or likeing someone.He seems to cold,selfish and he is all about killing Harry not dating people. ph34r.gif
MIKOH
don't you remember VOLDEMORT CAN'T LOVE!!
Narcissa;-
Voldy and Bella? Whoa... i can't picture that....not at all...
But how are they going to end if Mister Dark-Lord-i-will-kill-Harry-Potter-Then-Rule-everything, if he can't love?
Demented Dementor
I strongly disagree, why would she even tr, I think she adores him, but she doesn't have real feelings for him. She of all people knows that Voldemort can't love. He doesn't even have friends let alone a girlfriend. Also, I don't care how much you like someone, their physical appearance has got to have an influence on the relationship, I haven't ever seen Bellatrix in any movies, I have only read about her in books so I don't know how she looks but Voldemort's bald head which is lined with veins, and slits for nostrils, and pale skin would never attract anyone.
Arry__Pottah
I'm loving the idea of Voldemort having a relationship. I think it's hilrarious, and SHOULD BE DONE.

tongue.gif
ShinyBroomstick
I am led to believe that there is something to important about being Voldemort's number one supporter.

It held importance slightly in PoA, and in OotP.

In OotP, it was clearly shown she has no regard for anyone except herself and Voldemort, when she killed off Sirius. That means, she will do whatever Voldemort tells her to, because he said to do it.

Perhaps it had been her that killed Sirius's brother, Regulus, because he betrayed Voldemort.

Which brings up a very good question, Does she love him.

It would explain why she follows him blindly of what he tells her to do and who she kills.

Then, in HBP, Spinners end, Narcissa nad Bellatrix find themselves at Severus Snape's door.

Bellatrix seemed to be playing the role of boy guard in that chapter, wary of all movements and actions done by everything and everyone. Which shows she does love her sister, atleast somewhat and will protect her.

But what would happen should Voldemort tell her to kill Narcissa?

Also, being in Voldemort's league seems to have its benefits. You can keep close ones from being killed, so long as you do as the Dark Lord says. It also gives you power.

If I remember correctly, Lestrange is a high up family. Perhaps that's how they crawled up the ladder.

She might not even be protecting others, but herself. It would be a great way of self preservation if one places themselves withing the more dangerous party.

She and her husband did not plead that they were under the Imperious curse, like Lucius did, which makes me think, that she didn't want to deny what she had done, that she wanted everyone to know what she had done, for Voldemort alone, under his wishes.

But perhaps, even in the trial they were under the imperious curse?


I, in my personal oppinion, believe that she originally joined because of Redoulphus, and fell in love with him. It seems the most logical to me.

Because people in love do crazy things.

She went proudly to Azkaban because she believed truly in her heart that he was not dead and would come and release them from the prison, but had not expected being in there 15+ years.

She proudly killed atleast one of her cousins. And with lack of an mention of her sister Andromeda by Tonks, I believe that she was killed as well by Bellatrix to "clean their blood" because Andromeda married a muggle.


So maybe, she's protecting her sister. Perhaps she's in love with Voldemort.
He did grab her before he apparated in OoTP, so please do keep that in mind

Demented Dementor- Bellatrix Lestrange is supposed to look like an aged beauty thats been pressed past insanity. She supposedly was very pretty before she went to Azkaban, but afterward, its toll took away most of her beauty. I imagined her to have grey-ish skin causing her to look sickly, and her face to be thin and weary from lack of sleep. And dark, wavy black hair.
LoonyLuna
I actually do think that Bellatrix had a thing for Voldy....but all Voldemort would do is torture her. Bella worships voldemort. Voldemort has Bellatrix as his favorite....but i dunno...Voldemort having a wife is kinda hard to imagine... well unless it's peter pettigrew laugh.gif
ShinyBroomstick
But, I know its probably wrong to think of this but....

I have to wonder if Voldemort would even consider to ever take Bellatrix under his wing.

I mean, you have to admit, she used to look very lovely. Maybe she just recently got run into the dirt?

I imagined the Black sisters as three run way models- drop dead gorgeous and toned skin, perfect hair. In other words, the perfect women.

It seems that Narcissa's just a trophy wife, and I have to assume that Bellatrix and Andromeda looked the same.

So, assuming that like most men, Voldemort does have needs, maybe he will end up together with Bellatrix, or perhaps they already have, and that's why he took her with him at the ministry
Harragon
I don't think so. Voldie can't love anyone. And Bellatrix is just his most loyal supporter. She doesn't love him.
amanda1212
I dont think its love, I think she is just a big supporter. Voldemort cant love so if anything it's a one sided relashionship. Bellatrix admires Voldemort but I do not think that it would turn into a relashionship.
Harragon
Well If anything is going on, then i think its just a physical thing. Sort of a One night stand. dry.gif
The Silver Unspeakable
Wo! I thought I was the only one who thought this, and was thinking that maybe I'd have to make a new thread about it, but apparently I'm not the only one afterall!
I've actually thought that there might be something between LV and Bellatrix, for quite awhile.
What first got me thinking it is the fact that in OotP, at the ministry, he calls her "Bella" rather than Bellatrix. This struck me as somewhat odd, as no one else really calls her that --(except Narcissa maybe? can't quite remember)--and LV would seem the least of all people to call her by her pet name...That is unless there was something going on between them.

Now, I know you suggested that it was a one-sided relationship, but this suggests to me that it is--or more likely, used to be--a two-sided relationship. That is, perhaps at school, before LV became all big and powerful, they did have a relationship going; perhaps at one time he did have the capacity to feel affection. Another twist could be, that Bellatrix somehow broke his heart, and that's what made him stop loving altogether.

Infact, Bellatrix is already married, to a wizard by the name of Rodolphs Lestrange (remember, her maiden name is Black.) So perhaps Bellatrix dumped Tom Riddle for Rodolphus, but later regreted it, and ever since has been trying to reunite with Tom/LV. That's why for the past several years she's been trying to prove to him that she is his most loyal follower--and lover. But of course it's too late, since LV is far past the point of being capable of love and never will have her back. But Bellatrix just keeps trying, because she really loves him.

Maybe its all crazy and far fetched, I dunno. But I think it could very well be a possibility.

What do you think?
caballo potro
I think Bellatrix fancys voldemort wub.gif but voldemort is to dark and evil to fall in love so I don't see it possible dry.gif
UnknownLocket
I agree, Voldemort is way past the capability of loving anyone but himself, but the idea that he and Bella had something "going on" does sound interesting.
ShinyBroomstick
Alright, when I re-read all the books, I kind of was lead to believe that Narcissa and Bellatrix had arranged marriages, and they were raised to be cold-hearted -------. Because in Spinners end, Narcissa and Bellatrix seem distraught and uptight, like they were weary of showing any weakness to Snape.

Maybe its my personaly belief that Narcissa is a not a bad person but she needs to fill in the role of her husband to hold no gaps in the marriage for people to sneak in through. But some people have stuck hands and feet into the mold before it completely dried, ie: Draco Bellatrix (whom is only called Bella by Voldemort and Narcissa I see a correlation, perhaps the ones she only sees as her equals or she loves can call her this?) and Severus Snape (whom I believe to be Draco's true father)

And Tom went to school probably before the Black sisters ever went to school, and it never said where they went to school. If anything, Bellatrix would have just started school, when Riddle was finishing school. So maybe she was too young to fully assemble feelings before he left school, and it carried on into her marriage, which appears to be unsturdy and dissassembled already. There seems to be no real personality matches or caring on either side of the marriage, which makes me think Bellatrix is getting it elsewhere
UnknownLocket
QUOTE(ShinyBroomstick @ Sep 17 2006, 01:51 AM) [snapback]228433[/snapback]

Severus Snape (whom I believe to be Draco's true father)


Whoa Whoa Whoa!! Severus Snape Draco's real father? Well that's an interesting idea never heard that before. What makes you think that?
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