Full Version: Mirror Sirius gave to Harry.
| QUOTE (Dana_Scully @ Aug 7 2004, 01:51 AM) |
Oh, ashleigh, I feel so bad now!!!  **gives huge, apologetic hug!!** I'm sure I couldn't have read it when you posted it, or I would have said then that it was a good theory (although my points in my last post still stand....sorry!!! Of course you're loved and appreciated, girl!!! **high fives** Us oldies need to stick together....   |
Haha no worries, I was just playing up the whole "oh I'm so hurt and rejected because no one noticed it was my theory" charade. Hehehee
*Bad Ashleigh* But thanks for the hug!! *hugs Dana back* Yeah we "oldies" have to stick together!! Oldies unite!! akakakaka (Luparius - that's because we're both over 20!!) archangel - That's alrite mate, we'll just share that spotlight yeah?!
Well my theory is not exactly like archangel's, but VERY similar. I think Sirius in the form of a memory like Tom Riddle is brilliant - THAT was the point-of-difference between our theories. I never really thought of what form Sirius will appear in if Harry gets to speak of him again. Coz my theory is that Harry will learn to communicate to Sirius using some sort of medium to contact the world of the living dead, which I'm assuming is what is beyond the Veil.
As quoted from JKR, I do believe that there is more to that mirror from what we already know. I feel certain that we'll learn more of it's significance in book6, and that is why I reckon that the mirror is the key to possibly hearing from Sirius again. I'm hoping that the mirror is fixable and that Harry will learn how to use it to get to Sirius.
No, I don't think Sirius is trapped in the Veil. I've mentioned this before, from the first time I read OotP, I gathered that the Veil was some sort of doorway to death, the "other" world of afterlife. The reason I think so is from how it was described, and from what Harry saw in the Pensieve, that room served as some sort of Execution Room. Speaking of the Pensieve, I agree with archangel, that is a different kinda memory, kinda like the memory Harry was in in Tom Riddle's diary...the people in it can't see you, it's like you're invisible.
I think the mirror didn't work when Harry tried to use it in OotP because he didn't know how to work it. OR like Erin said, Sirius was not available then, he could not be reached at that precise moment. I don't know. And yeah, when James and Sirius used it, it worked coz they both intended to chat through detention.
Yeah I think Luparius' theory on the mirror used for talking with other members of the Order is brilliant too!! That's something to think about. As I said, I'm pretty sure we'll learn of the mirror's significance more in book6. And, HOPEFULLY, this is not the last we've heard from Sirius.
Archangel- I think I already read your theorie on the last page. Well I read it again, just now and yeah, they support each other. Sorry, didn't notice at the time. But oh well, People will just have to read both as one. Sorry if I upste you... 
I don't think Sirius is trapped either. I think he is in the afterlife or whatever. But hey, we won't know til the book comes out.
Waiting sucks!
I don't think Sirius is trapped either. I think he is in the afterlife or whatever. But hey, we won't know til the book comes out.
Waiting sucks!
Yes, waiting *does* suck. 
But in the mean time, I'm enjoying all these speculations and guessing games!!
But in the mean time, I'm enjoying all these speculations and guessing games!!
Hey, I know this is so off topic, but I've been re-reading OoP and just noticed something- why is Sirius' family's house in the middle of a muggle neiborhood? They hate muggles!! Yea, its probably not that important, but...
Ooh, that was a good observation!! I've never really thought about that before. It is a bit weird, isn't it? I don't know, it might be important...it's the type of thing JKR would come up with....you know, like something'll happen in the next two books and we'll all be, 'Oh, yeah! She DID put the Black house in the middle of a Muggle street after all, didn't she?', and then we'll all be kicking ourselves for not thinking about it earlier!!!
It's a terrible place to put it really, isn't it? Yeah, the Muggles can't see the house, but they'd notice the weird people coming back and forth all the time, wouldn't they?
Mmm......
It's a terrible place to put it really, isn't it? Yeah, the Muggles can't see the house, but they'd notice the weird people coming back and forth all the time, wouldn't they?
Mmm......
Hey Erin G, you might want to check out the new clues stuff by Galadriel Waters (I know, no advertising, sorry), cause it's really interesting and you might fit in well. There's a site "http://newclues.mugglenet.com/index.php" that you can go on and read through without having the book which is really quite interesting...
Yeah good on ya, mate...well-spotted there, Erin!!
I never really made the connection that they lived in a Muggle neighborhood even though they hated Muggles. Now it's got me wondering!! Well like Dana, I'm pretty sure there's more to it and JKR will reveal it to us when the time is right.
I never really made the connection that they lived in a Muggle neighborhood even though they hated Muggles. Now it's got me wondering!! Well like Dana, I'm pretty sure there's more to it and JKR will reveal it to us when the time is right.
That's a great point...wooow....*shakes her head* Maybe it's in the middle of a muggle neighbourhood because they though muggles would be too think to notice anything....that's a really weak explanation, but meh....
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| (Luparius - that's because we're both over 20!!) |
Oh I see!!! *nods* well I'll just be little and alone with most everyone else....okay so that's not really alone but anyway....I'll just shut up now...
Thanx. I don't think I didn't really think anyone would respond. *head starts to swell and starts commanding little sister to bring me things*
Yeah, it is really mysterious. I hadn't noticed until now either...
Yeah, it is really mysterious. I hadn't noticed until now either...
Hey, if the muggles can't see the house, then where do they think number thirteen went?
Obviously, you don't live in Britain then!
You've never seen anything like the way they number our streets...it beggers belief, honestly....houses can be demolished, ploughed over and a car park built over them, and no one will renumber the houses or anything, and then there'll be all these local legends springing up for why 'the mysterious house number 13' is missing and then you'll get busloads of tourists coming over, desperate to hear the legend of the ghostly house that only appears once every seven years when the moon is full, a white deer is born in the forest and the next heir of the manor is born butt-cheeks first..
You can even get streets which have different names on either side, even though the road separating them is like three metres apart and barely wide enough for a push bike....
Or sometimes, they'll number houses alternately - like 1 is on the left, 2 on the right, then there'll be a gap for the entrance to a farm or something - the farm will be number 5 - and then you're left wondering, 'hey, where the heck did 3 and 4 go?'...then you'll find them halfway down the street on the other side.....
You get the point....
You've never seen anything like the way they number our streets...it beggers belief, honestly....houses can be demolished, ploughed over and a car park built over them, and no one will renumber the houses or anything, and then there'll be all these local legends springing up for why 'the mysterious house number 13' is missing and then you'll get busloads of tourists coming over, desperate to hear the legend of the ghostly house that only appears once every seven years when the moon is full, a white deer is born in the forest and the next heir of the manor is born butt-cheeks first..
You can even get streets which have different names on either side, even though the road separating them is like three metres apart and barely wide enough for a push bike....
Or sometimes, they'll number houses alternately - like 1 is on the left, 2 on the right, then there'll be a gap for the entrance to a farm or something - the farm will be number 5 - and then you're left wondering, 'hey, where the heck did 3 and 4 go?'...then you'll find them halfway down the street on the other side.....
You get the point....
Your post really cracked me up, Dana!! Now there's ANOTHER reason for me wanting to go visit Britain - to check out your whack housing arrangements!!
wow. I didn't know that. 
There goes that theory. Well it wasn't really a theory but...
I sooo want to go to England. That would be awesome. Butt cheek first born babies. So funny.
There goes that theory. Well it wasn't really a theory but...
I sooo want to go to England. That would be awesome. Butt cheek first born babies. So funny.
lol England isn't that great! At least where I live it isn't.
Anyway back to Harry Potter....
At least where I live it isn't. Anyway back to Harry Potter....
Ooh, another Brit!! Yippee!! **waves furiously at Ems**
Where've you been lurking all this time then???!!! How come you're never admitted your Britishness before??!!!!
And there was me and Nivaya thinking we were the only ones!!!
Anyway...totally off subject...profuse apologies...
Any new mirror theories then? I think I'm fresh out....
Oh, hang on....there are some legends that if you gaze into a mirror for long enough, you can see spirits...I think it's called scrying...or screeing...something like that, anyway. You know, a long time ago, people wouldn't look at their reflections because they thought they would lose their souls? Maybe Sirius' soul can be contacted through the mirror now and that's why JKR said it wouldn't have helped much before? **shrugs**...I don't know...just an idea...
Where've you been lurking all this time then???!!! How come you're never admitted your Britishness before??!!!!
And there was me and Nivaya thinking we were the only ones!!!
Anyway...totally off subject...profuse apologies...
Any new mirror theories then? I think I'm fresh out....
Oh, hang on....there are some legends that if you gaze into a mirror for long enough, you can see spirits...I think it's called scrying...or screeing...something like that, anyway. You know, a long time ago, people wouldn't look at their reflections because they thought they would lose their souls? Maybe Sirius' soul can be contacted through the mirror now and that's why JKR said it wouldn't have helped much before? **shrugs**...I don't know...just an idea...
lol *waves furiously back at Dana_Scully*
Yeah I have run out of theories for the mirror as well....
*waves furiously back at Dana_Scully* Yeah I have run out of theories for the mirror as well....
Magical Mirrors:
Mirror comes from the Latin mirus or mirari meaning wonderful. Ancient societies (The Greeks, Egyptians, Romans, Chinese and Central Americans) believed that mirrors were capable of bewitching men's minds, confusing evil spirits or capturing souls of the living or dead. They were also used to predict the future before crystal balls replaced them, in a form of divination called catoptromancy. Magic mirrors were also used in ancient Rome (there's where your scrying comes in Scully) where scryers used them to predict how long a sick or elderly person would live. It was also believed that by studying one's image long enough in a mirror, it would help one learn about themselves and their place in the world. Folktales also say that mirrors may be used for looking into distant lands,showing important truths and revealing unimaginable marvels. They also may be portals into other worlds....
Just to help out other people make up theories since I don't have any myself
- The Textbook
Mirror comes from the Latin mirus or mirari meaning wonderful. Ancient societies (The Greeks, Egyptians, Romans, Chinese and Central Americans) believed that mirrors were capable of bewitching men's minds, confusing evil spirits or capturing souls of the living or dead. They were also used to predict the future before crystal balls replaced them, in a form of divination called catoptromancy. Magic mirrors were also used in ancient Rome (there's where your scrying comes in Scully) where scryers used them to predict how long a sick or elderly person would live. It was also believed that by studying one's image long enough in a mirror, it would help one learn about themselves and their place in the world. Folktales also say that mirrors may be used for looking into distant lands,showing important truths and revealing unimaginable marvels. They also may be portals into other worlds....
Just to help out other people make up theories since I don't have any myself
- The Textbook
I decided to skip ahead in my reading of all the posts, so if someone already put what I put, then sorry.
I keep imagining Harry throwing the unbroken mirror through the veil, then repairing his own and trying to contact someone dead. Wouldn't that be cool?
I keep imagining Harry throwing the unbroken mirror through the veil, then repairing his own and trying to contact someone dead. Wouldn't that be cool?
Yeah...sorry, Wednesday...we've already done that further up...
Anyway, Luparius...MAJOR kudos to you, man! You really know you're stuff!!! Good researching!!!
So mirrors can be used for looking into distant lands...now that's interesting....and showing important truths...
Mmm....maybe the mirror plays memories of Sirius and the Marauders captured during their time at Hogwarts? Maybe Harry's breaking it didn't actually destroy the original magic within it, but changed it a bit...rather than being able to contact Sirius now, it'll be kind of 'stuck' with just the old 'messages' that passed between James and Sirius while they were in school. Maybe if Harry has a problem and he looks into the mirror, some related problem that his father and Sirius had would replay itself and give Harry a solution?
I suppose that's a little bit like the diary theory.. (sorry, I can't remember who first mentioned that...was it archangel?...Sorry...) but it's a bit extended, that's all....
It wouldn't make the mirror a dark object - it would just mean that because Harry broke it, somehow he changed the original magic...you know what I mean?
Anyway, Luparius...MAJOR kudos to you, man! You really know you're stuff!!! Good researching!!!
So mirrors can be used for looking into distant lands...now that's interesting....and showing important truths...
Mmm....maybe the mirror plays memories of Sirius and the Marauders captured during their time at Hogwarts? Maybe Harry's breaking it didn't actually destroy the original magic within it, but changed it a bit...rather than being able to contact Sirius now, it'll be kind of 'stuck' with just the old 'messages' that passed between James and Sirius while they were in school. Maybe if Harry has a problem and he looks into the mirror, some related problem that his father and Sirius had would replay itself and give Harry a solution?
I suppose that's a little bit like the diary theory.. (sorry, I can't remember who first mentioned that...was it archangel?...Sorry...) but it's a bit extended, that's all....
It wouldn't make the mirror a dark object - it would just mean that because Harry broke it, somehow he changed the original magic...you know what I mean?
I would love that! Loads of Marauder adventures! Yay!
| QUOTE (Dana_Scully @ Aug 13 2004, 09:19 PM) |
| Mmm....maybe the mirror plays memories of Sirius and the Marauders captured during their time at Hogwarts? Maybe Harry's breaking it didn't actually destroy the original magic within it, but changed it a bit...rather than being able to contact Sirius now, it'll be kind of 'stuck' with just the old 'messages' that passed between James and Sirius while they were in school. Maybe if Harry has a problem and he looks into the mirror, some related problem that his father and Sirius had would replay itself and give Harry a solution? It wouldn't make the mirror a dark object - it would just mean that because Harry broke it, somehow he changed the original magic...you know what I mean? |
That's a VERY interesting take on it, Dana, and quite like the sound of it...good on ya for coming up with that!!
Well as I always say, I don't rule anything out when it comes to JKR so I think that it's quite possible...
THsnkd DS. That's a really great theory, extended and all. So the mirror would start back at the beginning and just repeat the other messages. Kinda like a broken record. But there were lots of mesages...anyway, I really really like that idea....
It really stinks how I'm unable to be original... I need a theory... need!
Gosh... the mirrors are of course going to be important... but what would our JKR do with them...?
Gosh... the mirrors are of course going to be important... but what would our JKR do with them...?
yeah dana, the diary/memory thing was me, but what you said makes a lot of sense, in fact, it makes my theory work even more!
also, great researching Luparius!
also, great researching Luparius!
ty...I know! Harry could give the mirror to Gilderoy so that Gildie could use it to admire himself all the time!
lol.....actually thats a good point about gilderoy, he and a mirror seem to go together so well....maybe there really is soemthign there...
Yea, like true love at last...
lol
Great research everyone who did it! I think those theories are very good. Better than mine anyways...
lol
Great research everyone who did it! I think those theories are very good. Better than mine anyways...
I made this thread & I hardly ever check up on it.. *ducks from flying tomatoes*..
Well, I've read so much & ohmygoodness that's a lot!! Dana!! You brilliant thing!! Excellent theory.. same thing to archangel/ashleigh cuz I just read both of your theories!!
I, however, have come up with a new one.... & I'm sorry that it's not that relevant w/ the mirror(s). It does have to deal w/ Sirius though.
Here goes:
Ok, in PoA.. Hermione has a time-turner that helps her get to her classes, if you all recall. Towards or at the end of the book.. she uses it to save Sirius (from the Dementor's kiss I believe?) & to save Buckbeak (from the execution).. so what I was thinking was, is it possible for Hermione or anyone else for that matter, to use the time-turner to save Sirius for a second time?.. !!! I wonder.. but then.. where would the mirror fit in, in that picture?
Please tell me what you all think!!
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Then again, it just hit me that we do not know for sure if Sirius is dead.. or alive.. ? Awh, back to square 1... the question that is still puzzling us to this day.. STILL, TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK!!
Well, I've read so much & ohmygoodness that's a lot!! Dana!! You brilliant thing!! Excellent theory.. same thing to archangel/ashleigh cuz I just read both of your theories!!
I, however, have come up with a new one.... & I'm sorry that it's not that relevant w/ the mirror(s). It does have to deal w/ Sirius though.
Here goes:
Ok, in PoA.. Hermione has a time-turner that helps her get to her classes, if you all recall. Towards or at the end of the book.. she uses it to save Sirius (from the Dementor's kiss I believe?) & to save Buckbeak (from the execution).. so what I was thinking was, is it possible for Hermione or anyone else for that matter, to use the time-turner to save Sirius for a second time?.. !!! I wonder.. but then.. where would the mirror fit in, in that picture?
Please tell me what you all think!!
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Then again, it just hit me that we do not know for sure if Sirius is dead.. or alive.. ? Awh, back to square 1... the question that is still puzzling us to this day.. STILL, TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK!!
As much as it breaks my heart to say it, the death of one of my beloveds is finally beginning to sink in...(it's taken more than a year and a slightly 
new obsession with Lupin to do it though.. ) ...I'm finally beginning to accept that Sirius ain't comin' back. I'm sure JKR wants his death to mean something important to the storyline so even if Hermione could use the time turner, I don't think she would. (Think she's given it back to McGonagall anyway...**shrugs** )
Nice thought though, tash....I guess we can leave just a sliver of hope alive, can't we?
Maybe Harry'll still be able to communicate, in some way, with Sirius through the mirror. I kind of liked my theory about it being used as kind of a memory/pensieve/diary thing though...there's the potential for loads of nice Marauder scenes there...... ...soooo sad...**sniff**
new obsession with Lupin to do it though.. ) ...I'm finally beginning to accept that Sirius ain't comin' back. I'm sure JKR wants his death to mean something important to the storyline so even if Hermione could use the time turner, I don't think she would. (Think she's given it back to McGonagall anyway...**shrugs** )Nice thought though, tash....I guess we can leave just a sliver of hope alive, can't we?
Maybe Harry'll still be able to communicate, in some way, with Sirius through the mirror. I kind of liked my theory about it being used as kind of a memory/pensieve/diary thing though...there's the potential for loads of nice Marauder scenes there......
...soooo sad...**sniff**
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| Maybe Harry'll still be able to communicate, in some way, with Sirius through the mirror. I kind of liked my theory about it being used as kind of a memory/pensieve/diary thing though...there's the potential for loads of nice Marauder scenes there...... ...soooo sad...**sniff** |
Either way that'd be pretty cool, I'm looking forward to finding out. Did Harry actually break the mirror? I can't recall, I think someone mentioned that...
Yeah brilliant idea tash, but yeah, like Dana said, sadly, Sirius really *is* dead and I'm pretty sure JKR's not gonna bring him back.
BUT I really am keeping my fingers crossed that Harry will find a way to communicate with Sirius in the next book, which is what we've been discussing in this thread.
Yeah Harry did break the mirror, but we're all hoping that that's not the last we've heard of it because of that. I do strongly feel that we'll learn more of the mirror's significance in the next book. Like I've mentioned in previous posts, I see the mirror as some sort of doorway/portal into the land of the living dead (@ the land beyond the Veil) where Sirius is. It then branched into the whole pensieve/diary/memory thingy which I think is really cool and quite possible.
Well here's hoping eh, coz I just really want Harry to be able to speak with Sirius one last time...sorta like closure...
BUT I really am keeping my fingers crossed that Harry will find a way to communicate with Sirius in the next book, which is what we've been discussing in this thread.
Yeah Harry did break the mirror, but we're all hoping that that's not the last we've heard of it because of that. I do strongly feel that we'll learn more of the mirror's significance in the next book. Like I've mentioned in previous posts, I see the mirror as some sort of doorway/portal into the land of the living dead (@ the land beyond the Veil) where Sirius is. It then branched into the whole pensieve/diary/memory thingy which I think is really cool and quite possible.
Well here's hoping eh, coz I just really want Harry to be able to speak with Sirius one last time...sorta like closure...
It's happenin' w/ me too.. Sirius' death is finally starting to sink in .. I keep telling myself "He can't be dead, there just has to be some way to bring him back...Harry needs him!!" .. thanks for the compliments though, heh!! I'm soooo anxious about reading the 6th book.. I need the answers!!! *sighs*
mirrors confuse me
In what way?
BTW, talking about mirrors, did anyone notice that there's a mirror in PoA in the Leaky Cauldron that talked back to Harry?
Mmm...so mirrors in the series so far...
1. Erised - shows you you heart's desire.
2. Mirror in PoA - Criticised Harry's hair....sentient, then....
3. Mirrors in OotP - Communication device (possibly...real meaning unknown...)
There's something here....I know there is....something foreshadowed, but I can't put my finger on it.....any theories?
BTW, talking about mirrors, did anyone notice that there's a mirror in PoA in the Leaky Cauldron that talked back to Harry?
Mmm...so mirrors in the series so far...
1. Erised - shows you you heart's desire.
2. Mirror in PoA - Criticised Harry's hair....sentient, then....
3. Mirrors in OotP - Communication device (possibly...real meaning unknown...)
There's something here....I know there is....something foreshadowed, but I can't put my finger on it.....any theories?
I had forgotten about the mirror in the Leaky Cauldron... shucks.
Anywho, I'm theory-free... however, I think you're on to something Dana, is there some sort of pattern or some kind of similarity w/ each mirror?
Anywho, I'm theory-free... however, I think you're on to something Dana, is there some sort of pattern or some kind of similarity w/ each mirror?
I don't know....mmm....well, in the '10th Kingdom', the goblins made mirrors which had all kinds of different purposes....for travelling, for looking into the future, for telling you the truth.....then in 'Mary Poppins' her mirror sang back to her....in 'Snow White', the Queen's mirrors had like a whole personality and could see into distant places as well as told the truth....In legends, they could be used to show all sorts of things...future, truth, past, distant lands, possibilities etc....
There are so many myths and legends about mirrors that it's very difficult to see some kind of a pattern where JKR might be going with it. It seems as though mirrors can basically do whatever they are enchanted to do.
Did Sirius and James buy them 'ready-made', or did they enchant normal Muggle mirrors? I think that's important....there might be someone Harry will go to in Diagon Alley who might be able to tell him how to work them....or maybe, if Sirius and James did the enchantment themselves, then maybe Sirius will be able to appear within it to tell Harry himself how to work them.....or even James himself. That would be great....if Harry could speak to both Sirius and James...to see them back together....to know they're happy....**sigh**
I dunno.....it's driving me crazy though.....
There are so many myths and legends about mirrors that it's very difficult to see some kind of a pattern where JKR might be going with it. It seems as though mirrors can basically do whatever they are enchanted to do.
Did Sirius and James buy them 'ready-made', or did they enchant normal Muggle mirrors? I think that's important....there might be someone Harry will go to in Diagon Alley who might be able to tell him how to work them....or maybe, if Sirius and James did the enchantment themselves, then maybe Sirius will be able to appear within it to tell Harry himself how to work them.....or even James himself. That would be great....if Harry could speak to both Sirius and James...to see them back together....to know they're happy....**sigh**
I dunno.....it's driving me crazy though.....
Eh, not sure if this was brought up. I heard it from somwhere else. The note on the back of the mirror said something like "say my name and your face will appear in my mirrior and I'll be able to talk to you". Not sure if that was how it was worded. But it did say YOUR FACE...it never said Sirius' face would appear in Harry's. Harry acted too quickly. Maybe Sirius just didn't have enough time to reach for his mirrior if he had it on him. I think he's dead though, so it doesn't matter to me.
I read an interview with JKR and sh didnt want to comment on the mirror she said....
WHAT is whit the mirror, why should Harry have it and what use will it have in nr 7....
Any ideas - because I havnt...
I have no idea. It might be that Harry can communicate with his friends through it.
I'm not sure, either, I mean, it's broken, right? Unless he still has the shards and he gives them out to Hermione and Ron so they can communicate together (sort of like the DA coins), but with mirror shards instead. Or maybe it'll give him an idea to do something similar (again, like the Dark Mark inspired Hermione for the DA coins)
I suspect that Harry will find the other mirror that belonged to Sirius. He will repair the original mirror and take one to the Department of Mysteries and throw it through the arch. He will then be able to communicate with Sirius.
I think the mirrow is done for, and i don't want to be negative, it might come up again as like used for communication through the trio in #7 or i like the idea that harry would fix it up and put one by the veil and try it like that..... 
Just so y'all know, there was a thread discussing this mirror (here) but replies can't be posted there anymore because it was located in the pre-HBP forum which is now closed.
If the topic interests any of youse, you really should head on over to that thread and check it out, quite a few interesting posts there was...10 pages of it to be exact!!
If the topic interests any of youse, you really should head on over to that thread and check it out, quite a few interesting posts there was...10 pages of it to be exact!!
I doubt very much that that mirror will be able to work normally in the afterlife. Nobody can communicate with the dead. And I don't think that Harry will be able to fix it with reparo!, either, because it's a magical object. If things were that simple, Malfoy would've been able to fix the vanishing cabinet with that charm, in HBP.
However, it might still play a role. We'll have to see.
However, it might still play a role. We'll have to see.
| QUOTE (HP_RW_HR_Love @ Jul 28 2005, 11:53 AM) |
| I think the mirrow is done for, and i don't want to be negative, it might come up again as like used for communication through the trio in #7 or i like the idea that harry would fix it up and put one by the veil and try it like that. |
i agree with that as much as i would love for sirius to come back , i dont even think that harry has the mirror anymore. but i wish it would work!
Speaking about mirrors, the Mirror of Erised has been out of the picture for quite some time. I don't know why, but I think it may play a role in communication with Sirius, there is a whole world of portkeys and other dimesions, it would be odd if somehow everyone materialized through that mirror once Voldemort was destroyed. And if there are 7 horcruxes, as of now 4 of Harry's supporters are dead I'm assuming three more will die, perhaps, there will be some odd twist and as all 7 horcruxes are destroyed, 7 people will be released from the dead/dimensions somehow.
**spoilers for HBP ahead**
JKR practically told people about this in that interview she gave, you know. Not in so many words, perhaps, but seeing as how it now seems as though she's not exactly cryptic in her clue giving....
It seems that there is a connection between the mirror and Regulas Black. RAB is Regulus - I don't think there's much doubt about that anymore...and she basically came right out and said that the mirror would be important in that regard. We don't know whether or not Sirius had that mirror on him when he fell through the veil, but if he didn't (and I think there's evidence to suggest he didn't) then it's likely to still be at Grimmauld Place - unless it was among the things that Mundungus took.
It's probably going to be some method of locating the locket Horcrux or learning more about Regulus and Sirius, I would have thought. Probably won't work properly as Harry broke the other one of the pair, but...well...we'll see I guess.
JKR practically told people about this in that interview she gave, you know. Not in so many words, perhaps, but seeing as how it now seems as though she's not exactly cryptic in her clue giving....
It seems that there is a connection between the mirror and Regulas Black. RAB is Regulus - I don't think there's much doubt about that anymore...and she basically came right out and said that the mirror would be important in that regard. We don't know whether or not Sirius had that mirror on him when he fell through the veil, but if he didn't (and I think there's evidence to suggest he didn't) then it's likely to still be at Grimmauld Place - unless it was among the things that Mundungus took.
It's probably going to be some method of locating the locket Horcrux or learning more about Regulus and Sirius, I would have thought. Probably won't work properly as Harry broke the other one of the pair, but...well...we'll see I guess.
he mirror was so that harry and sruis could communicate, and now it is broken so i don't think the mirror will have any part in book seven
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| littlexoxlotte Posted on Aug 6 2005, 09:00 AM he mirror was so that harry and sruis could communicate, and now it is broken so i don't think the mirror will have any part in book seven. |
How can you say that? I mean Joe (JKR) already said that it was going to important, and seeing how it was not mentioned in the 6th book, then it most come into play in the 7th book. I can totally understand where you are coming from though. It's hard to think that crystal like shards of a once magically mirror could be used for anything important but maybe a health hazard to Harry if he sticks his hand to far down in that ole trunk of his his.
I'm not quite sure how it will come into play, but I don't think that Joe would write it into the story and it have no use what so ever.
*Ding Dong* The Door bell just rang and I think someone is finally home! I think I may have an idea. Maybe JKR uses the mirror as a sort of catalyst during the 7th book. Maybe Harry gets fed up with all the Voldey crap sometime during the book and just decides to take off. While he's packing his trunk he gets nicked by the mirror and remembers all the people that have died to give him this chance and defeating the Dark Lord.
That theory doesn't have a magically stand point behind it, but Joe likes to play on human emotions a lot. After all, the main fact in beating Voldemort is love, and that is a magic both wizards and muggles both share.
- That Old Black Magic
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How can you say that? I mean Joe (JKR) already said that it was going to important, and seeing how it was not mentioned in the 6th book, then it most come into play in the 7th book. |
i highly doubt that JKR said a broken mirror would be very important in book seven..
unless harry uses the broken peices to throw at people... to use like darts...
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