Do you guys know Steve Irwin? Our crocodile hunter? Well his wife had his second child less than a month ago and Irwin took the baby into a crocs enclosure for one of his shows. the he took the baby to the waters edge where a croc was barely a metre away. How stupid is he? It's like the Michael Jackson baby dangling fiasco. Has the world gone mad? I've hated Irwin from the start with his stupid "Crikey" and his poking a croc then saying "oh he's mad" then poking it again. And he runs a zoo! How irresponsible can this guy be?

Wow....absolutely shocking! I don't get Australian tv though. Probably because we don't have it here. But I sure don't like Michael Jackson.

Then he goes and explains himself on American TV. He is trying soo badly to win Americans over when really he should be trying to win Aussies over. And I hate the way he talks! Oh it's soo annoying. The only reason he said he was sorry was because the some department was investigating him. He's soo stupid.

Ergh. I get crocodile hunter, even if I'm not an Aussie. I never liked it. Steve Irwin is so stupid! You're right Triad, he pokes a crocodile and says "CRIKEY! HE'S MAD!" it just leaves me thinking "Of course he's mad you DOLT! you just poked it with a stick! I'd be mad too!"

dats puni!!!! but he has a point wit the whole croc and his son thingy!!! his rite in teaching his kids abt the whole safety in the bush!! i got nufin wrong wit dat!!!! but wit his 1 month kid!!! dats just plain nuts!!!!! man his weird!!!! he just freeeks me out!!! but everyone thinks ALL aussies r like him!!! wer NOT!!!

Rainy could you please reply in a way that we can understand what you are saying? If I'm the only one then sorry but I find it hard to figure out what your trying to say.

sorry. Everyone complains about the way I write!! I'll do it properly from now on!!!!! happy? i tried my best!! lol

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I've always hated Steve Irwin and all of those 'Aussie' things their annoying and Laura I think your absolutely right! of course it'd be mad! Why would you go around poking dangerous animals in the first place is beyond me!!


(i'm an aussie)

man that dude is totaly crazy!!! would you be stupid enough to poke a spider that could kill you???? oh my goodness...his so stupid its not funny!! he risk's so much peoples lives

He has done some pretty stupid things in the past. I think we should move on because the media has. Steve Irwin does make many Aussies like myself cringe with embarrassment. Like someone posted, we are not like him.

I could get over it but he keeps doing stupid things that put him in the media. Like that swimming with whales or something? He's a total moron and I can't stand him. Every time his ads come on for his zoo I have to change the channel! Ugh, I wish he would just give it up already!

I'm no fan of his but I do think the whole thing was blown out of proportion. He had an interview with Andrew Denton on Enough Rope not too long after it and they showed how far away from the croc the kid actually was. He's good for tourism and he does a lot for the environment as well. I used to be really contemptuous towards him but now I just let him be the harmless entertainer he is.

Besides he's a lot better than the reality trash which passes for entertainment these days.

I've heard about this incident & the first thing I thought was "OMG!! The poor baby!". I agree it's his kid & he should be able to raise him/her the way he wants to, but hello? Are you going insane Mr. Crocodile Hunter? I thought that was such a stupid thing for him to do.. aww.. I'm still thinking about the poor baby.. could've gotten hurt!

Steve Irwin is a nasty piece of work! I can say that in full confidence 'cause I'm Aussie (if you don't know already ) and he really p****s me and everything he does he does without thinking and if he put some thought into it people might actually appreciate him - In my family he is a standing joke!

Wow....to celebrate my 150th post (even though I've been active on VTM for like 8 months), which is a total coincidence that it is now, I am going to start a topic on Australian shows.

This includes Talk Shows, Soaps, Sport, Reality, Dramas, and basically everything to do with whats on the air in Aussie land.

Oh, and I realize that there was already a topic for australian tv coincidently called Australian tv, but it was restricted to some incident with Steve Irwin back in early 2004.... and no-one likes him.

Anyway, back on track....my favourites...

Rove Live- Yes, he is getting a bit old, but he rocks my world, and Peter Hellier is hilarious.

Home and Away- Yes, yes I watch it.....at least it isnt as bad as Passions. It is a real classic, you should all watch H&A sometime.

AFL Matches- Obsessed with everything about it, especially when the Eagles play. Love you Benny!!!

Kath and Kim- I dont even need to justify my reasonings...classic, absolute classic....

THE FOOTY SHOW- Bahaha...AFL of course.....Absolute classic, the greatest show ever created. Sam Newman and Trevor Marmalade are some of the greatest on TV. I'm just glad Eddie-Everywhere is gone, Now it can be named once again The Footy Show, not The Collingwood Show as it is at times!

Well, thats all for now. If I think of any more, I will post them, but these are my all-time-favourites.

-thesolitaryone-

What about Neighbours or the Croc Hunter? They're like the best things out of Oz since the Cricket team...except they're not very good anymore, so I guess Neighbours and Croc Hunter are the only good things out of Oz these days

Only Australian show I've ever seen is McLeod's Daughters, which I think is brilliant, I love that show, but WE has decided to stop showing halfway during the series, and each season is like $80 each, so I'm pretty much screwed.

I can't stand Steve Irwin and like most people who have posted I'm an Auzzie. We now have him on our quarintine television ad. saying we must protect our country through quarintine. We already know this, most of us anyway , yet he has to step out of a postbox and tells us.

Australians are not all like Steve, I can't even name one who is!

^^ How true. I don't even know anyone who even says "Crikey" - I am sure if someone did, one would probably give a disbelief look/stare... I think the representations of Australians have probably changed quite drastly now - we don't say those Australian words such as "Far out" (I hear the older generations say that but not in my generation now) and more examples (sorry I can't even remember now but there used to be a lot of Australian slang). The only word I can think of that Australians are particularly proud of - "mate". So I think Irwin should at least move on with the times, but then, we don't have much of identity as Australia now...maybe apart from Kath and Kim - though I don't know any suburbian people who says that stuff!

Yeah, aren't those advertisements about quarantine in Australia a 'cringe worthy' factor...

Steve Irwin, the Crocodile Hunter has died.

He was stung by a stingray barb which pierced his left side while he was shooting a new television series. A report can be found Here.

That is so sad, my daughter just told me and I came across this thread almost straight away.

I loved the Crocodile Hunter series, Steve Irwin was such an action man.At least he died doing what he loved best.

To be honest I am not suprised. That man was crazy. Do not get me wrong, I really liked his shows. I remember watching him before he gained a big following in the US. The first shows I saw were a series of documentaries along the Dingo fence. Every since then I have called him the Dingo Man rather than Croc hunter.

My favorite episode was one where he was bitten by a snake. Thing was Steve had no idea what the snake was. He was a little excited, even for him, carring that snake to his truck to identify it. Luckily this time it was non-poisonous but he was bound to run out of luck eventually.

Actually I completely agree with you...the man was a total nutcase! When I read the link I thought, crikey(pardon the pun) no wonder the man got killed, it was a risk he took everyday.

I'm guessing you can tell from my very first post that I never liked him. He made the world think we're bogans who say Crikey and that crud. We don't by the way. I do when I've had a few too many and being stupid but I'd never do it sober. He might have brought tourists to Australia but he didn't really do much for our identity.

Still is a shame he died the way he did. I feel sorry for his kids....not his wife..never did like her. Sucks that he died while filming for his daughters wildlife show.....

Don't you think that is a bit harsh, considering a man just died? It's understandable that you may not like her, but to say that you do not at all feel sorry.. She is still a human being who lost someone she loved dearly, you know.

Anyway.. It is a tragic and ironic death. Doing what he does, it wasn't a complete surprise that Steve Irwin was killed. Still, it was unexpected. Many might have though he would perish in the mouth of a crocodile, but not a stingray.. *sigh* Sad

well as crazy as he may have been, I admired him because of his devotion. He was fully devoted to his cause and didnt care what others think. that is truly admirable. I that is not an easy thing to do. yet he did it anyway. yeah he's done some questionable things, but he truly cared. and to die from a stingray i was looking at the statisitics and since like 1924 there's only been one other death. what a freak accident to happen. he will be truly missed. i know many of the aussies didnt like him but as an american i never felt he put your country's rep in state in fact because of how he's shown your beautiful country its made me want to go and see your beautiful country. He will be sorely missed. This one's for you steve. rest in peace.

I think the whole thing about the way he died is the irony of it. All those years he had contact with Alligators and crocodile and snakes and the creature that dealt the final blow is one that people swim in the sea with everyday and are not considered deadly.

He was an entertainer and I am sure his fans will miss him greatly.

Today, I had just gotten out of bed still sleepy when I heard on the news that he was killed. At first I didn't believe what I heard, but it's still sad. I had to do an essay for AP World History and I could barely focus on it. I feel so depressed whenever someone dies. It's ironic that a sting ray killed him. What's really sad is that he leaves behind a wife, and 2 young children. It's really sad....

yes very sad he leaves behind a family, and from what i have read Bindy Sue, his eldest child, was on the boat when it happened and terri was Tihiti or somewhere. the poor child. he will be missed.

I'm from Canada, but I've always watched Steve Irwin and I was completely shocked when I heard... people are putting turtles in their usernames on Messenger to remember him.

Terri was hiking in Tasmainia. His daughter wasn't with him- I believe she and her brother were also in Tasmainia.

The entire thing is quite interesting actually- it's something that has apparently only ever happened to one other Australian and something that's happened to about 10 people in the world.

I have to say that I've never liked Steve Irwin. While he brought in a great tourist industry I have to say that I'm put off by being asked to say 'crikey' or- as was the case in LA- asked if I know him (since I live in Brisbane, just south of Australia Zoo). Yeh. right. I just don't think he gave the best of images to Australians as anything more than yobbos.

Also being honest, when I first heard about it I thought it was a joke and burst out laughing- ha ha. real funny I said.

Then I heard on the radio while I was doing the bus run... whoops

But yes, I agree with the Irony of it all.

Oh Steve Irwin! I will sorely miss his shows! I always found his documentaries fascinating and I actually wanted to learn about things like snakes and crocodiles, which never really interested me before. Why? Because I loved his energy and his passion for it. It made me want to learn from him because I could tell he had so much he wanted to share.

Sure he was a bit crazy jumping into situations that could easily get him killed... (well more than a bit crazy...) and I'm sure the "crickey!" got annoying to some people, but there is no denyiing that the man made interesting documentaries.

I suppose I understand why a lot of you aussies didn't care for him too much, with the whole sterotyping the whole country because "steve irwin's from Australia and he says "crikey!" they must all cry crikey when they get excited!" I'ts kinda like that whole Canadians all say "eh" and "aboot." Really isn't fair.

Ah-ha, harsh? Of course, it's meant to be. I've never liked him or his wife so I couldn't careless what I say about them. And they're never going to read this so I'm not going to bite my tongue and be like majority of Aussies and say he was a great guy and all that **** when in fact he wasn't. Sure he saved the animals. Big whoop. If he treated humans they way he treated animals he would be a good guy.

Aussies know the real stories if they care to listen, everyone else gets fed material that isn't true or taken so far out of context that no-one knows the truth. He was a celebrity, and Australian celebrity so of course he was going to be portrayed in the best light possible. We are also a pathetic bunch who cling to whatever fame we can get (no offense to any Aussies on here). Irwin has died and you watch, soon there'll be charities, Documentaries, holiday tours of his park and everything imaginable. Anything and everything to cash in on his fame. Like I said, pathetic.



Yay! Someone who has the same thoughts as me! And Shelly, you live in Bris? I live on the Southside! Small world.....anyway, back on topic.

Yeah it's sad that he's dead. But honestly....there are so many more important people out there.

The whole point of this site is for people to be able to express their opinions on a topic, without being rude to one another. So in my view Triad, you are perfectly within your rights to state your opinion whatever it may be. In other areas of this site we discuss what the 7 Horcruxes are, what will happen in book 7 etc, but all we are stating is a matter of opinion. We are not necessarily right or wrong. If someone takes offence at what another has ssid because it is not their opinion, that's up to them. Triad, you were not in my opinion being rude to anyone on this site, you were just stating your own, personal point of view.

Phew...back on topic...Australian TV show....I really miss Prisoner. Cell block H

Steve Irwin, yes, sad piece of news.

I am not an Australian, but surprised there are a few of you who have noted a dislike for a person for the way they are and the fame that followed.

Does it matter how he spoke? Or the way he acted? There are many more celebrities who dont do anything right these days, but there is no need to start up a thread and start saying nasty things about a man who was accidentally killed in doing what he loved best. What? And you've done something for mankind because of...?

That's right, don't start this kind of thread...nasty kind of way to speak of the dead. Let him be and keep to the topic of the Harry Potter books.

Thank you etphonehome, I'm glad someone on here doesn't mind people speaking their own opinions.

And Peridona I made this thread back in 2004. I didn't make it to slam him because he died. I made it to talk about Aussie TV and since he was all over the news back then it was only natural for us to talk about him. You asked does it matter how he spoke and acted. Yes it does matter because as quite a few of us have said, it puts into the minds of other countries that we all speak that way, we all wrestle animals and have kangaroos and koalas on our backyards and crocs in every stretch of water. We're not all bogans.

And this is the TV and Media forum in the Outside HP thread so we don't have to talk about Harry Potter in here. That's why I made this thread, to talk about something else for a change. Like I said, back in 2004.

Now, I don't like being attacked because my emotions don't mirror everyone elses. So I'd appreciate it if you kept your rude comments to yourself. However I will answer your question. 'And you've done something for mankind because of...?' I haven't done anything for mankind. But I do treat people better then he did. And I couldn't careless what you all think of me for not liking him or his wife, as etphonehome said, it's my opinion. I'm not forcing it on anyone so I don't like to be stabbed at like that. Perhaps you should go read the rules again.

Thank you TriadofDarkness, there is no rudeness in my opinion about your comment - just honesty.

Nobody is stabbing anybody in the back. I am of the opinion that your comments were tactless to say the least. If your not forcing it on anyone, why respond to my comment? I didnt point out your name, you responded merely out of trying to discredit myself/others and upset of voicing the opposite of your reaction to the story, tough.

And yes, i have read the rules and laid my complaint. But thank you for your response, duly noted.

I don't recall saying 'stabbed in the back' nor do I recall trying to discredit anyone. I was merely pointing out that I don't tolerate rudeness of any degree and that I have a right to post my opinions on any matter. Tactless? Sure I am, but it's not doing anyone any harm. I'm not slamming a member of this board and I never would. And I will reply to any comments made that I feel were directed at me, which yours in the post I am replying to right now, were. And your previous post since I was the one who started this topic.

Now I'm going into Mod Mode: This is a topic about Australian TV. So how about we talk about that instead of having silly little arguements over my opinion. And since we're on the topic of Steve Irwins death I suggest we all stick to it. Unless someone wants to change it to something more interesting......like Australian television shows that you love or hate. That shouldn't cause any problems.

Well, I can't say as I was an avid fan of Steve Irwin's, but I did greatly enjoy his show when I came across it. I thought it was a wonderful thing to watch how he would handle dangerous situations and take care of very dangerous animals that were sometimes in populated areas. I personally thought he was a great guy and I feel deeply sorry for his wife and especially his kids. I just couldn't believe it at first when my mom told me this morning when I came out of my room to get on the computer, I was in a bit of a daze, it took a while to sink in and it still seems a bit unreal when I really think about it. And quite honestly I'm a bit depressed about it, and to put that into context, I am not at all a emotional person and I can't think of a death before this one, besides in my own family, that has effected me in the slightest, no matter who they were. But I trully find myself feeling sorry for him and his family.

May thine soul rest in peace Steve Irwin wherever it may now lay until you are reunited with you beloved wife and children many years from now.

Now before I go, I have one thing to say to TriadOfDarkness, I too think your comments in this thread are very inappropriate and unbefitting of any member of this board under its rules let alone one of its members who is also a part of the Wizengamot, which I think is like a Moderator if not one. And, I will also be lodging a complaint with the head mod and maybe even Matthew.

Hold on. I'm lost. How did this turn into a debate over my not wanting someone to state their opinion? I never in any way implied that. TriadOfDarkness expressed her opinion, and I expressed mine. I don't see a problem here.

Now, I see Steve Irwin was blamed for clinging to the fame and only being portrayed in the positive light. I would like to see one celebrity, Australian or American, who is different. Every one of them is trying to get the most money out of their fame. That's what the business is about, unfortunately. I don't see why only Steve Irwin has to be criticized for it.

I never liked Steve Irwin I have to agree with triad and elaine there, but it's sad that he's died. I don't think he treated the animals with respect, but used them for entertainment, and not to teach people. You don't see people like Richard Attinburgh (sorry can't spell) picking up terrified animals by their tails. IMO he did more harm than good.

I doubt Triad is glad that Steve Irwins dead, she infact said that it's sad that he's dead. She's merely saying that she did not like him, nor his wife. There's nothing disrecpectful about not liking someone in my view. Yes, he died, but he did do reckless things, you can't go around doing things like that and not be prepared the be injured or in this case die, his wife must have known that too. I as well, feel more sorry for his children, they've lost their father because he was reckless.

Like I said, it's very sad that he's dead, but when you play with fire...

Hiya folks

Thanks to those who have kept their composure; to members involved please settle down because Mr. Irwin passing on is a serious matter and we all have a right to state our opinions about our thoughts however I nor anyone in staff is going to allow a thread to crumble into an unhealthy discussion. Remember the reason why we are here is for discussing Harry Potter while discussing a celebrity's death is a privilege; I have no reservations closing this thread if we fail to find reason with succeeding replies.

In short, any future discrepancies need to be discussed privately with the appropriate individuals, thanks.

Vtm is becoming my number one news source. All the gossip seems to come out here somehow, so I can pretend I know what's going on in the world, while actually I'm just here all the time...

Anyway, I agree that it is a very ironic death, and like all death, a little sad. However, I have complete sympathy with all Aussies who don't want to be associated with him, or likened to him. He was a yobbo-ish guy, and ridiculous. I wasn't surprised, though, to find Australians quite unlike that when I went on holiday there a few years ago with my family. South Africa is less high profile, but I also don't like it when we get made ridiculous. Anyone saw Mr Bones? Dumbest movie ever made in our country, and it was apparently shown in America? The shame...

Anyway, can't say I'm sorry to see him go, but it is an end of an era, so I'm sure there will be those who grab the chance to make a buck or two...

When I found out Steve Irwin died, it was just...wierd. It was so unexpected. I was suprised at how sad I was about it, because I never particularly watched his show, I just felt so sorry for him. And his family.

He died doing what he loved, though; at least he didn't go by a car crash, or something. It was a bit of a freak accident, sting rays are very rarely fatal. But, I guess he had it coming--teasing crocodiles, and entangling in dangerous snakes. But, nonethless, I really wish he hadn't died. He has two small children and a wife, and they seemed so happy together, doing what they loved. But, hey...he was happy and hyper-spastic all the time, I'm sure he went down with pride.

They released on the news that he pulled the serated barb out of his heart before he fell unconcious, and I really thought that was brave way to go.

So---even though I wasn't a big fan, I just hope he didn't feel any pain. Ugh, that'd be terrible. Atleast it wasn't slow.

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Alright, guys. I've read over the last page and it looks like all of the arguments started with my post. I guess I was misunderstood - I did not want to imply that Triad cannot express her opinion. I simply wanted to say that I would expect one to sympathize with a family who just lost a loved one, no matter their opninion of that family. That's all, I did not mean to start a riot

I myself do not agree with some of the things that Steve Irwin did - such as bothering and agitating animals without a reason or holding his young son in front of an aligator. The later did not completely outrage me, but I did think it wasn't quite right of Steve. Just for reference, he did afterwards admit, that if he had a chance to rewind things back, he probably would have acted differently. However, I think Irwin should be given credit for doing so many exciting documentaries and sparking interest towards science in the minds of young children, who previously just preferred to sit in front of their TVs instead of learning.

As for Aussies being offended because Steve represented their country in a way that they may not have liked.. This always surprised me about people. Shouldn't the public know better than to judge a whole country by one celebrity figure? Not always, apparently, so I can understand why some Aussies fell offended. However, at time you are being a bit too harsh on Steve, IMHO.

Now, I always found this quite interesting because I really don't see how different it is from Michael Jackson hanging a baby over a balcony. And yet Steve Irwin being the lesser of the 'freak' (with all due respect for Mr Jackson, so I will say that I am a fan of), seems to have been forgiven for that one





It's interesting the number of Australians that I have met who DON'T actually like Steve Irwin. We don't seem to have a problem with Nicole, or Hugh or Heath- we're quite proud ofr them to be 'ours', but Steve Irwin is not the loved celebrity that he seems to be overseas. I'm not saying that there are a LOT of Australians don't love him- he has a HUGE following and all you need to do is listen to the radio yesterday or watch the tv to see the dedications to him. But if he wasn't an international celebrity, I'd be willing to bet a huge sum that next to noone would even care- anyone know the name of the other Australian who died in the same way?

Speaking in further relation to Australian television, what's interesting is the amount of Irwin stuff that has gone up in price Including 'The Wiggles with Steve Irwin' DVD, which is advertised in the Target catelog as being on sale for $15 starting this Thursday.... maybe I should make an early trip to the shops

Yes, it does seem a little strange. Perhaps, the fact that Steve Irwin seems to be more psychologically competent to think through decisions like that. In the case of Michael Jackson, you don't know what was going through his mind or wether he wished to hurt the baby. Irwin, on the other hand, clearly did not mean any harm by it. It was a "stupid" decision that he made, but his intentions were rather good - he just wanted to entertain his son. Well, and show off a bit, probably, but he did not think he was putting his child in danger. Steve is quite a daredevil, he may have a different sense of what is dangerous than most people..

Man! I'm glad I wasn't here for this yesterday! *cues the sound of an angry cat* Anyway...

I have to say that when I heard about this, my first feeling was, of course, sorrow because the guy has two children and a wife who will undoubtedly miss the poor fellow. But the more I thought about it, the more it occurred to me that the guy was living on borrowed time as it is. I mean, the moment he jumped on the back of his first vicious 20-foot reptile, his clock went into overtime. As soon as he picked a black mamba up by the tail, he started his bonus round. Correct me if I'm wrong but when you stare death in the face so many times, one of those times, yelling the word "Crikey" and scrambling out of the way just isn't going to cut it. Still, when I found out that the creature that killed him was a Sting Ray of all things, I had to acknowledge the irony of it (some one already mentioned the irony bit so forgive me). It was no cobra or 25-foot crocodile or magic-using liger that did him in (yes, I said liger for all you Napoleon Dynamite fans out there ) but a lowly, and 90% of the time friendly, Sting Ray. Look, a marine biologist was quoted in National Geographic stating that:

For all you math wizards out there, what this guy is saying is that only 1 out of 20,000 people that are attacked by a Sting Ray are actually killed. When a freak accident like that happens, greater powers than those present on Earth are telling you "Steve, you're time is up." I wouldn't go as far as to say that he got what was coming to him, but I know for a fact that when you play with fire, one of these times you're going to get burned.

I'm still very sad that his risk-taking lifestyle finally caught up with him. He will be sorely missed and his survivng family has my sincerest condolences. This was a good man who simply took a lot of risks. It is truly a shame .

That's my two cents anyway. Later.

Zophael

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