The_Unknown
Jul 15 2004, 08:23 PM
Well I know it's a stupid question but do u think that the gold of Sirius in Gringott will be given to Harry or the Weasly or anyone else or .... ?
Phoenix
Jul 15 2004, 08:53 PM
i think it will probably be given to harry since he's the only family member alive...
DancingVeela
Jul 15 2004, 09:53 PM
My guess is Harry as well... Even though Harry really doesn't need it.
MimolaChuck
Jul 15 2004, 11:13 PM
i think it will be given to harry. but, harry, being so kind, will give some of it to the weasley's, because they were somewhat related to sirius.
NastyShort
Jul 15 2004, 11:31 PM
True, Harry probably would do that, but would they take it?
I'm also thinking that Harry will inherit Grimmauld Place, along with Sirius' gold. But, Harry won't be able to live there because of the charm implanted on him by Lily. He'll probably move there after the defeat of Voldemort.
Half Blood Princess
Jul 16 2004, 01:10 AM
Well Harry's not *actually* a relative, so unless Sirius had a will in which Harry gets everything, it could actually go to the Malfoys or someone like that.
LupariusMurilegus
Jul 16 2004, 01:15 AM
That's a good point...hehe, wouldn't that suck "Here Lucius, I know he hated you, and you hated him, but Sirius died and all his gold goes to you. Funny ol' world ain't it?"
But assuming that the money does go to Harry as well as Grimmauld place, I think Harry should buy Lupin some new robes, like he essentially did for Ron...lol, I doubt he would accept it though. Grimmauld place would still be the Headquarters right? Because for some of the members, that's where they live anyway...meh, I dunno
tashluvsdan
Jul 16 2004, 02:48 AM
I agree with many of you that Harry will inherit Sirius' gold along with Grimmauld Place..I mean, Sirius was his godfather and it was mentioned that Harry was the most important person to Sirius..so I guess thats enough for one to assume Harry will be the one to inherit it all.
Naz
Jul 16 2004, 05:23 AM
i think it will go to harry. then maybe harry will give it to the weaslys, but i dont think they will take it. sirius might have made a will or something like that (hopes)
Harriet Hornbeam
Jul 16 2004, 07:43 AM
I think Harry...but I also think that Sirius would have given some of his gold to Lupin, who was like a brother anyway.
Voldemort
Jul 16 2004, 08:08 AM
Maybe he had no gold. I doubt whether the Ministry would keep a wanted criminals bank account open and up for transactions.
However his Grimmauld Place, # 12, I think would be given to Harry, him being his Godfather. Did Albus tell the Ministry that Sirius was clean, and didn't do those things?
Ems
Jul 16 2004, 09:18 AM
I just assumed the money and property would go to Haryy, but yeah maybe it will go to the wealsey's/malfoy's or Lupin. Him and Lupin were very close from their school days, it would be nice if Lupin got something.

But of course it wouldn't be able to replace Sirius......
NastyShort
Jul 16 2004, 04:02 PM
Nah, he had gold, because Sirius bought Harry the Firebolt with some of his gold in Gringotts. And the goblins don't care about the wizards unless all of a sudden goblin's start dying. Then they start to get angry.
LupariusMurilegus
Jul 16 2004, 08:20 PM
I agree with you NastyShort.
Maybe Harry'll get most of the gold, and Lupin will get Grimmauld place and a bit of cash...What's Harry gonna do with a house he can't live in anyway? He'd probably end up giving it to Lupin...
Voldemort
Jul 16 2004, 11:42 PM
Is it NOT possible that Sirius stole is on his way to hiding? He is already a wanted criminal. He could've easily just broken in, take it, and take off on Buckbreak before anyone could even spot him.
Guest
Jul 17 2004, 12:40 AM
He could have stolen, but there'd most likely be anti-stealing charms on such an expensive broom. As well, he came from a pure-blood family, who , even though they hated Sirius, they probably would have rather given their money to their disgraceful son, than someone else. He obviously inherited Grimmauld place
Harriet Hornbeam
Jul 17 2004, 01:54 AM
I was under the impression he ordered it under Harry's name and took the gold from his own vault.
Voldemort: He was never a criminal, just accused of being one. Sirius was a good bloke who was tricked and set up by Wormtail -glares- I don't think he would have stolen the money when his family was rich. Even though he hated his family, he was the last in the line of Blacks. His mother would have left him everything, even though she didn't like him.
@@siriusblack@@
Jul 17 2004, 02:59 AM
| QUOTE (Phoenix @ Jul 15 2004, 02:53 PM) |
| i think it will probably be given to harry since he's the only family member alive... |
no don 't forget about bellatrix
hp123
Jul 17 2004, 04:02 AM
ah, bellatrix. (hate her.)
Yeah I remember it saying somewhere in the book that Sirius took the gold out of his vault, but bought it under Harry's name. I highly doubt he stole it. I'm sure he wouldn't give his own grandson a stolen item. Just like nobody would give their relative a stolen car.
Voldemort
Jul 17 2004, 05:58 AM
What book did it say this at? And I doubt it, how would Goblins be tricked that Sirius Black, Wanted Criminal, would be Harry Potter.
BellatrixBlack
Jul 17 2004, 07:03 AM
Well, I think that Sirius did put Harry in his will, meaning Harry will get everything. But there is also the possiblity(cant spell) that Sirius could have left it all to Lupin since Lupin was living with him in Grimmauld place. Though there is still the possiblitiy that Sirius didn't have a will and his foutune would be left to next decendent. Which there are still the 3 Black sisters left, so maybe they'll split it? lol, I doubt it though. And Sirius did say in the 3rd book that he had Crookshanks get his money from his vault and ordered the firebolt under Harry's name.
Voldemort
Jul 17 2004, 07:42 AM
That CROOKSHANKS did? When, what page? American Edition?
kreacher_the_house_elf
Jul 17 2004, 01:41 PM
I don't know about the whole Sirius stole Harry's Firebolt thing but in book 4 Sirius is very casual about the whole 'I just broke into a wizard house to use their fire and floo powder as well as nicking newspapers and stuff they don't notice.' I reckon that a Firebolt being the international standard broomstick that it is would've at least caused a bit of a stir let alone the fact that Harry mysteriously recieves one as a Christmas gift. However, Broomsticks cost a lot and if he stole that much money JKR would've put it in somehow. Like the stealing of the philosophers stone or something (sorcerers) So Sirius probably didn't steal it or for it.
So here's my version of the inheritance....
Lupin gets the House
Harry gets half the money
The Weasleys get the other half
Bellatrix and the Malfoys should get absolutely nothing as they deserve.
Hagrid gets Buckbeak back as he deserves.
Actually it is amazing how Hagrid when at the end of the third book thinks that Buckbeak escaped with no mention of Sirius never talked to Harry or Hermione about how they rescued him. Or at least I haven't read the books enough. I would've expected him to metion it to Harry at least as a joke or something. Or did Dumbledore just pass Buckbeak off as any old Hippogriff??
Not really the section to say it on but awww well.....
LupariusMurilegus
Jul 17 2004, 05:04 PM
I mostly agree with you kreacher, but I don't the Weasley's will get half, if any, of Sirius' money. I mean, Fred and George didn't want to take Harry's winnings so imagine what their parents will be like!! But I hope Lupin will get Grimmauld place
babyharmony
Jul 17 2004, 06:17 PM
How can Sirius have gold? He's a "criminal" it would probably have been conviscated by the Ministry of Magic.
If I'm wrong though...
Sirius's gold will probably be offered to Harry, but he will refuse. The gold would probably go to the Order of the Phoenix.
Ems
Jul 17 2004, 06:25 PM
Yeah Lupin should get Grimmauld place, does Lupin have any property any way?
And thats a good idea that the order gets the money.
LupariusMurilegus
Jul 17 2004, 06:40 PM
I was under the impression that Lupin owned very little...Although, he must've had some property at some point cause in book 4 DD told Sirius to "lay low at Lupin's for awhile" but you know, he may have sold it or something.
I think Harry will take the gold, or at least some of it. JK already said that his gold was dwindling and he needs enough to make it through school and to buy a house and food aftwerwards and whatever. But, it'd be neat if the Order did get the gold, or some of it at least
And Sirius would have gold because, it might have been in his parents' vault or whatever, or the Ministry may not have confiscated it at all....who knows
Ems
Jul 17 2004, 06:47 PM
Maybe Lupin's place was the shrieking shack?

I know it's not actually his, but it's where he went a lot.
LupariusMurilegus
Jul 17 2004, 07:16 PM
I doubt he'd be daft enough to do that, seeing as how the secret about him is out and no howls or anything has been heard from the shack for a long time...
Voldemort
Jul 18 2004, 04:09 AM
I'm sure Remus owns an apartment or something. This is my theory:
Harry gets it all..........being he is his only, well, what we'd consider family
Harry get's nothing as he isn't blood with Sirius.
Sirius has only a house, which will go to Albus Dumbledore.
LupariusMurilegus
Jul 18 2004, 02:09 PM
Lupin may not own any property any more though. He may have felt it necessary to chip in for some of the expenses the Order accumulated and sold his house for some cash. He doesn't seem one to accept charity as he wears shabby robes and owns only a few things. What I mean is that I'm sure at some point James, or Sirius or even Peter offered to get him some new robes, but Lupin was just too proud to accept....
Anyway, I think Lupin will at least get the house, which he'll then probably donate to the Order, but DD won't let him, or allow him to live there like Sirius did or something like that. Lupin may even get a little of Sirius' money as they were "like brothers" so you know...
Finally, I think Harry will get the majority of Sirius' money as he is Sirius' godson
Actually, I think that split is fairly even, once you throw in the house, as it should be. Lupin and Harry were pretty much related in the same way to Sirius. Harry was the son of Sirius' best friend and Sirius felt it not only his duty, but his honour, and joy to be Harry's Godfather. Lupin, on the other hand, is Sirius' best friend and therefore probably of almost equal (if not completely equal) importance to Sirius...
Voldemort
Jul 18 2004, 02:19 PM
Yeah, I agree on the splitting up among Remus and Harry recieving shares. Maybe Sirius will give the house to Albus.
LupariusMurilegus
Jul 18 2004, 02:29 PM
Maybe, but then where'd Lupin live? Plus, If Sirius' will was made within the last 2 years, which it most likely was as before that he was in Azkaban and Harry didn't really know him, then I doubt Sirius would have left anything to DD as he was pretty friend at him for making him stay under what could be seen as house arrest.
I say Lupin'll get some money and house and Harry'll get lotsa money and no house, catch my drift?
Voldemort
Jul 19 2004, 01:41 AM
I still think if Albus owns it, Remus would be able to stay, however handing down the money to Remus would be better than giving to Harry.
aparecium
Jul 19 2004, 11:22 AM
Well..if Sirius does give his **riches** to Harry.. Harry will be one lucky guy!
Voldemort
Jul 19 2004, 12:43 PM
Yeah, well, he already is. He dosen't need any more money.
Harriet Hornbeam
Jul 19 2004, 01:52 PM
I beg to differ, Voldemort. Harry is not being supported by one working parent. I assume that before Lily and James died they were working both for the Order and proffesionally. I don't think that Harry will be able to survive forever on the 'small fortune' that was left him. He is not getting any new income, just the money that the Potters had saved. I think that by the time Harry finishes school, things will have become quite scarce and until he gets a job (providing he's still alive) he'll have to be very careful with money. Sirius giving his inherited fortune to Harry will be very welcome.
I support the idea that Lupin gets the house and Harry gets the money. I think something solid like a house will be much more acceptable for Lupin and much less insulting than money. With somewhere to live, perhaps Lupin would be able to start a business.
I doubt Sirius will give anything to Dumbledore...who ever heard of signing your will to somebody five times your age? Absurdity.
Ems
Jul 19 2004, 03:53 PM
Just wondering.....who has Sirius' motorbike at the moment?
Voldemort
Jul 19 2004, 08:50 PM
I think Harry will have even enough money to live without work for awhile afterwards, although I do think he will still work.
Harriet Hornbeam
Jul 21 2004, 04:35 AM
Doesn't Hagrid? Sirius gave it to him, saying he didn't need it anymore before he went after Wormtail.
Ems
Jul 21 2004, 07:41 AM
I knew Hagrid had it to fetch Harry but I wasn't sure if he kept it. Thanks!
hermione
Jul 21 2004, 09:57 AM
I think that Harry would get the gold and he would try and give it to the weasleys.
kreacher_the_house_elf
Jul 22 2004, 04:47 AM
Well, the gold has to go somewhere and if Dumbledore explained to Fudge that Sirius was innocent then the money is actually legal and so is the Firebolt.
Lupin will get a half share of the money and the house as well as Harry.
Or of course it will all be donated to The Order of the Phoenix.......
Voldemort
Jul 22 2004, 07:33 AM
Sirius's motorbike is gonna be in a later book. JKR already said so......
Louise
Jul 22 2004, 07:59 AM
Yeah, I read that on the chat transcript last night too (almost 4 months too late, but hey, I'm a slow reader

)
Wouldn't that bike have been illegal? Misuse of Muggle artifacts? I mean, Arthur Weasley got into so much trouble about the Ford Anglia, didn't he?
On the topic of Sirius' gold and stuff, would he have had time to make a will? Where would he have lodged it, considering that the last place in the entire world where he would ever have wanted to be was a lawyer's office!
He doesn't have a next of kin, so to speak...
Or does he???!!!!
Guest
Jul 22 2004, 07:26 PM
Wouldn't that bike have been illegal? Misuse of Muggle artifacts? I mean, Arthur Weasley got into so much trouble about the Ford Anglia, didn't he?
I really doubt that Sirius's motorcycle would be considered a Muggle artifact. From the way Hagrid described it in SS, it sounds like Sirius had had it for a while. Don't you think the Ministry would have gotten involved if they had a problem with it?
Louise
Jul 23 2004, 08:20 AM
It has to be a Muggle thing though...wizards ride brooms, or apparate, or travel by floo network. Why would they need cars or bikes or anything else? (other than the Hogwarts Express, of course). Muggle's certainly don't have flying motorbikes...perhaps I was wrong to use the word 'artifact', but it would still come under the Ministry's interest...isn't it illegal to enchant anything Muggle-ish? Didn't someone get into trouble for enchating a toaster or something once?
Mind you, Sirius always did have a bit of a wild streak and Muggle motorbikes might have appealed to that side of his personality, adding a flying charm or whatever to it would have given it an edge and made it unique to him. After all, the Ministry have to know about it first in order to get all bent out of shape about it. They didn't know about the Anglia until half of London saw it.
Do you think Hagrid might have smashed it up or something in grief over Lily and James when he heard about Sirius' arrest? Like a target, you know...he couldn't get hold of Sirius to smash his face in for what he **supposedly** did, so he took it out on the bike instead?
Just a thought....
Ems
Jul 23 2004, 10:22 AM
Ooooh maybe because even Lupin thought Sirius betrayed them, until he found out it was Peter in Prisoner of Azkaban. I can't imagine Sirius and Hagrid talking to eachother....
Louise
Jul 23 2004, 04:57 PM
No, nor can I. Hagrid's twice the size of Sirius, he'd have ripped him limb from limb!!! Poor guy!!!
I bet he looked so hot on that bike too......
(Sirius, of course...not Hagrid!!!!)

Incidentally, you'll never guess what I found out today!!!
Did you know that under British Law, as Sirius had no next of kin, that his cousins could legally claim 12 Grimmauld Place as
their inheritence.....i.e Narcissa, Tonks and BELLATRIX!!!!!
How twisted is that!! Offs her cousin, then inherits his house!!!!!
Voldemort
Jul 24 2004, 07:23 AM
We are going to learn more about that bike. It is my understanding that somewhere JKR said that Sirius's bike is gonna play a role in future books. Yeah, but see, Bellatrix wouldn't claim it, that would be like, DUMB! She would get into trouble. Narcissa wouldn't NEED/WANT it...Tonks might/could inherit it. Whoever inherits it, it's gonna probably go to the use of The Order of the Pheonix.