In HBP, Hermione describes the effects of the Amortentia potion and how its scent differs from person to person (for her, newly mown grass, fresh parchment, and....). In OOTP, Ron gave her some perfume for Christmas that year - in my opinion, a much more personal gift than her usual books. Could it be possible that the third smell that attracted her was the perfume he gave her?

That could be true too. I kind of think Hermione may have had a slight crush on Harry in the beginning of OOTP, when she tells him that he's never been more fanciable. But I'm a Ron/Hermione fan, so I'm hoping the last scent was some form of "Essence of Ron"!

I highly doubt Hermoine was thinking about Harry. Hermione cares for Harry as a friend and that's it. After all, she gets jealous when Ron is dating Lavendar, but she's never jealous about Harry and Cho or even Harry and Ginny. Not to mention the fact that JK has already stated that it is Hermione and Ron that like each other. However, you are more than welcome to keep wishing I guess. Anyway, she was definitely smelling something that reminded her of Ron, but I don't know what. The perfume is definitely a possibility.

SiriusBlack22 on the COS Forums has a great quip in his signature...dealing with Hermione's Amortentia --
"Is it just me or does HARRY do a lot of yard work?"

The perfume Ron gave her is a good guess. I'd been wondering what she smelled, though yes, it has to do with Ron.

I'd forgotten about the perfume. She did say that was an unusal smell, so it was something she'd easily recall and remind her of Ron.

Amortentia is meant as a "wake-up call" in the series. As Hermione recited the characteristics of the potion, it becomes clear this is the point the author wants to declare "who is with whom". Perhaps some haven't realized why Amortentia is the most potent love potion. It's the most potent because it enhances an existing love. Unlike Romilda's potion, Amortentia doesn't make one fall for a complete stranger. There has to be a feeling already before Amortentia can enhance it. Thus, it makes our desire stronger, if it is taken in. However, the potion itself is so potent that the vapour already can evoke some feelings. Here the readers will finally know who is in Harry's mind and Hermione's.
Hermione stopped short in saying her sentence. She's just realized whom she has a feeling for. But she didn't look at nor avoid to look at Harry. (Harry has been watching her, as well as the whole class). She just turned red. Not long after that she did whatever she could to help Ron into the Quidditch team. (If she likes Harry, she would know from OOP that Ron might be damaging to the team and might cost Harry the cup). Personally, I don't agree with the action. Hermione acted what she thought she must do, and it's not always right as she made mistakes since Book 1 (with Neville etc.), so she is not perfect.
About Hermione's face turned red without looking at anyone in particular, the author repeated this with similar wording after Ron said "I love you" to her. This further confirms that Hermione acted that way because of Ron.
We also read how Harry reacts after he smelled Amortentia. The most notable absence of action is he didn't relate it with Hermione at all. We know Hermione doesn't like Quidditch. We also know in GOF, Hermione didn't want to eat the snack. Apparently Hermione doesn't use any perfume with flowery scent. This practically eliminates Hermione, once for all, as someone Harry has even a slightest feeling in his heart.
Of course a few pages later we know the girl in Harry's mind is actually Ginny. Harry started to realize then that Ginny has been in his heart all along, only he (as a typical boy, according to the principle of the author) didn't realize it earlier.
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"Hermione doesn't use any perfume with a flowery scent"?
How do we know this? Maybe she does. Maybe the perfume that Ginny uses is the same perfume that Ron gave to Hermione last Christmas. Ginny sprays it on and voila!, Harry is reminded of her everytime he smells it.

However, I won't argue that Ginny is always around whenever Harry smells the scent, so I know that Harry is associating Ginny with the perfume. But, MY POINT is that the perfume with the flowery scent could just as easily be the same scent that Hermione uses.

This is getting way off topic. This is about Hermione and the Amortentia potion. Please refrain from turning this into a Harry/Hermione, Harr/Ginny debate.

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In my opinion, I think Hermione would have smelt Ron's scent, most definitely. As I read it, I immediately assumed that was the reason she didn't want to say anything further.

How's is it that hermione can differentiate between the smells coming from the one poition? I think it's rather strange that a single object can have three different scents. Wait a minute, that's how the potion works isn't it? By using the desires or 'likes' of the person. Never mind then

I don't think she was going to say the scent of anyone, it was probably the smell of a favorite book or classroom. However, my money is on the scents emminating from the burrow, she did spend an awful lot of time there.

One additional note regarding Amortentia, I heard one theory about Ron. What did Ron smell? One of the 3 scents he smelled could be about a girl, but which girl?
The theory one poster had is the girl's scent came similarly from Hermione and Lavender. Both are dorm-mates since first year, may be they have the same brand of shampoo, soap, deodorant, perfume etc. Most likely Hermione and Lavender chose the most commonly used in UK, not the specially made (Probably Ginny's was home-made by Mrs. Weasley, to save money). Or Hermione thought what Lavender used is good and common in wizarding world, so she used the same. Or Lavender wants to imitate Hermione, with hope she can get a good grade like Hermione. Or simply both girls fell for the same advertisements in newspapers/tabloids.
Ron, being a "typical boy" sniffed Hermione's scent every minute they are together, and recorded subconsciously as her "unique" scent, without realizing the significance. We know Ron, Hermione and Lavender mostly sat in the same classes and often in close proximity during meals and in the Gryffindor common room, although Ron may not sniffed Lavender too often, so he didn't recorded that in his mind too deeply. Now, when it comes to matching "scent" with "person", Ron realized Lavender's scent was very similar to Hermione's. Thus, Ron was a bit confused, which girl does he actually have feelings for. When he thought Hermione "betrayed" him with kissing Viktor in Yule Ball, he went for Lavender. However, later Ron learned his lesson that it was Hermione he really likes, not Lavender. That's the theory.
It's plausible because it gives a reason why Ron can easily go to Lavender. He thought he was guided by Amortentia, the same way Hermione and also Harry did.
It shows that the scent one perceives from Amortentia has to be proven further, not just taken as it is. For example, Harry finally got together with Ginny and found her "the best source of comfort" in his life. Harry succeeded in matching "scent" with "person". Hermione might first doubt and even feel resentful to her own finding, when Ron turned out to fall for Lavender, not her. However, when Ron was dying, Hermione realized that no matter what Ron did, Ron was the person she couldn't live without. When she heard Ron called her name, she was now certain she really bears romantic feeling for Ron and Ron has the same feeling to her. That's why Hermione became very nice to Ron after Ron recovered, knowing for sure who she wants to be for life.

I have a feeling Amortencia will make a comeback in Book 7. It's very possible that we find out exactly what Hermione was smelling from Hermione herself.

Love potions have come up quite a bit and Amortencia wasn't brought up for no reason. JKR will bring it back in Book 7. Recall that love is the power "more wonderful and terrible than death."

Being a good friend and a girl, Hermione knew Harry would feel lonely if she and Ron pursue their love (as she is certain about her love to Ron thanks to Amortentia). Being an intelligent girl, she already noticed that Harry glanced at Ginny more often than necessary, but Harry lacks the confidence because he felt he is not fanciable enough for her. Hermione thus calmly boosted Harry's spirit with good words in front of Ron. Hence, I don't see Hermione was flirting with Harry, not with Ron standing closely next to her (as Jo Rowling made certain the readers know about his presence!).
Back to Amortentia, I am not quite sure it will a comeback in Book 7. I feel it served the purpose already, for Harry/Ginny, Ron/Hermione's relationships. But I won't mind if we see it again (judging Jo Rowling's habit to use previously described items). Unlike other love potions, Amortentia according to Prof. Slughorn cannot evoke love to someone not loved before, so Amortentia can only enhance H/G or R/Hr love, perhaps as a sort of weapon against the Dark Lord.

hi there... i did a search in the forums but did not find any threads like this so...

what do you think is Hermione's love potion ingredients? from the book we know-

I dont know. Also been wondering about it. I cant really think how Ron smells, there's not much mention of it in the books, but maybe it has something to do with Quidditch. Or also like something in the burrow, e.g. his room.

I dont think it's the perfume, because she is the one that wears it so it would mean she is attracted to herself or something.

I'm gonna scan the past few books and let you know if I find anything. Quite an interesting subject really.

I think there is a definite possibility that it had something to do with Ron, but I think thers also a good chance that she was just really embaressed that she was sputtering on about something that know what asked her or cared about.

Who says the last smell was something that reminded Hermione of Ron? It could be something that reminds her of Harry. Maybe she smelled the same woody smell of a broomstick handle? It could it be the broomstick Harry uses in Quidditch. We all have our own scents - not necessarily sweaty, obnoxious scents either! - that we tend to leave on clothes, like a sweater (jumper), shirt or blouse. She may have smelled 'Harry' as the last smell! This is why she decided not to say anything. This is so hard to describe without getting a 'ew-w-w-w-w' type of response!
But, you know what I mean, right?

Dumbledore's widow im guessing you are a H/Hr shipper? sorry if you arent. but why would Hermione smell Harry when she's not attracted to him? im guessing the last ingredient was definately something to do with Ron. but obviously H/Hr shippers would argue

I am a R/Hr shipper so it is do with Ron. I personally think she might have been about to say Ron but then relaliesed he was in the room. It might be his room smell, the burrow or just Ron's scent left on his clothes. Hopefully we will soon find out from Jo.

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Hi everyone!

It could be Krum
It could be Ron
I dont think it could be Harry , they are just good friends (She never gave signs about feeling something else than friendship for Harry but thats another topic and its just my point of view )


Who knows?

I have 2 theories : Maybe she stopped talking cause
a- Ron was in the room and the ingredient had to do with him
b- Ron was in the room and the ingredient had to do with Krum and she didnt want to have a row with Ron neither everyone else to know about it

In my opinion it had to do with Ron

I think Hermione did fancy Krum a lot , when she was in her 4th year , but I think that now she just like him as a friend


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I'm thinking that whatever the last thing she smelled was it was most likely something to do with quiditch. I mean, after all, she has dated an international quiditch player, seeimingly likes another quiditch player (HArry or ron, probably Ron)

But just as an after though,(and a favor to all you H/HR supposrters out there ;P) just because she doesnt make it obvious that she likes Harry doesnt mean she doesnt like him. I mean, Ginny hid her feelings for Harry for a few years before she went out with him, so you cant really tell who Hermionie likes.

But yeah, off topic !

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Maybe It's something that will be revealed in the 7th book if it plays a big part because 7 is where Hermione and Ron will start being together

hi there! thanks for the replies!

Well, we know for certain that it isn't now anything to do with Harry, and can probably reason with a fair degree of certainty that it's linked to Ron or Krum.

I don't remember the smell of either being extrapolated on to any extent, which makes the perfume a likely candidate.

It's chocolate frogs. She totally smells Ron's chocolate frogs!

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I see no reason why Hermione could not have smelled something that reminded her of Harry. She has spent a lot of time around Harry, as well as Ron. However, she is more relaxed around Harry. She has hugged him more than a few times. She has been in very close proximity to him (e.g. during the timeturner sequence, being protected by Harry from werewolf Lupin, flying on Buckbeak - just to name a few) to where she would certainly take in the 'essence' that is Harry (and vice versa I might add!). My point is, that she could just as easily have smelled Harry and blushes because he too was in the room! Not attracted to Harry you say? I beg to differ. I believe that Hermione IS attracted to Harry and I have seen it IN the books as well as the movies. It is all a matter of interpretation. You see it one way, I see it another. So, it could have been a smell that had to do with Harry just as easily as a smell that had to do with Ron, or anyone else for that matter. To adamantly say that it hasn't anything to do with Harry is wrong. Let's not rule it out just because you ship differently.

It's ink. Or books (I personally love the way fresh books smell). Let's face it, Hermione loves to study and do her homework (the ink), and she loves to read (the books). Who said it had to relate to a ship? We know she likes other things as well; it may even be pertaining her parents or her Muggle life (face it, with Draco in the room she would not be too keen on talking about her life outside of Hogwarts, and she may feel embarassed to mention her parents when she rarely does so to begin with).

But if we are going down the ship path, then I am a total lost for words. I have no idea what she would smell (and wish to remain pleasantly surprised) if it dealt with a boy. It could be essence of Krum , stink of Ron , sweat of Harry , smell of Neville , or something else entirely. I mean, she does hang around quite a few boys. But assuming it was one in the room at the time, that leaves Harry, Ron, Draco and Ernie (from what I can remember).

All things said, it can be deduced it was something that Hermione felt strongly about enough to blush when she caught herself about to say it. If you want my personal opinion, just ask (I tried to be fair to everyone in my post).

hey, that theory about the Chocolate frogs is good, she can smell, let's say, not the chocolate, but the card's smell, that could be chocolate and paper, parchment, or whatever the material is. and, now i'm kidding, i think she smells... Ron's socks. actually, that was going to be my signature.

As a R/Hr shipper i believe the smell has to do with Ron's natural smell, or sometrhing in the Burrow. But that doesn't mean i deny all the other possibilities, Jo isn't exactly the "predictable" sort of writer. One more thing: i've noticed some of you leave certain people out of the picture just because they wern't in the room. I actually think Hermione wouldn't name anyone even if he isn't present, and this is due to the presence of Harry and Ron - i think she would rather lie than admit she likes someone in front of them. It's the way she is, right

The smell isn't something of Ron, the smell is Ron.

She knew what it was and didn't say because Ron was sitting right next to her.

At first I thought she was just embarrased about talking so much. But when I read it again, I came up with a different idea...

Ron. It is sooo Ron. (Or his cologne, or whatever he smells like.)

At least I hope it is...

But there's always the possibility that its Krum or Harry and she doesn't want anyone to know...

But I hope its Ron...

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Who says the final ingredient isn't something to do with Malfoy? Afterall, he plays quidditch too. Maybe, she was too embarrassed to complete the sentence because he was in the room with his peers and she was sitting next to two boys who hate him.

I've never been convinced that she hates Malfoy. Sure, she doesn't like him but she doesn't hate him either.

But, of course, she may have been embarrassed because she was rambling.

Besides, i'm pretty sure Ron stinksHe shares a house with Pigs for goodness sake.

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Interesting topic, This question should definitely be sent to JKR. I think all of the theories mentioned are good. I must admit the most plausible boy connection is Ron even though it hurts me to say so.

She made it clear in HBP that they are starting to get together. Harry even mentions it at the end about how awkward this could potentially be. However, JKR has not said that she ruled out HG/HP though so I guess she could turn it around. I hope Krum is back in the seventh book so I can see how their relationship has played out.

The answer I like the best is the books. Maybe that in the end is her true love.

I think the perfume probability is a very possible theory. I think regardless of all the ships, Ron and Hermione obviously show jealously over eachother and have mutual loving feelings, even if they don't always get along, which is another sign of crushing on eachother. So, I think the unusual perfume could be a scent in her Amortentia, it makes a perfect fit.