Ok, just from the title I can guess that you all think I'm crazy, right? Well, I do have certain beliefs you may not agree with. I am a Snape lover and personally don't believe he's evil (see other snape/evil post and you'll get everyone's reasons.

I think that JKR meant Snape to become the next Dumbledore. I have my reasons - let me explain. He may very well have powers equal to Dumbledore. Also, we all are wondering why DD trust Severus so completely, maybe it was meant to be. Maybe DD gave his life so Severus could be his sucessor, able to do things so much better than DD. I highly doubt it - but maybe Snape will help Harry find Horocruxs. It's a long shot, but a girl can dream.

I'm for it. I believe, like Hermione, that Snape is not evil. I think he killed DD for a reason, and I think that reason is so that he could gain the Dark side and Voldemort's full trust. And with that trust he could very easily turn on them all and surface as the "good guy" once he helps Harry to defeat Lord Voldemort......that's what I'm hoping to happen anyways

.....Didnt you say that you had reasoning behind that thought????


hmmmm...well I HIGHLY doubt it. Although I am a believer of "Snape is Good" and "Dumbledore is not Dead," I just do not see your scenario happenning in Book7....

I still do not understand the theory completely though, you'll have to explain it better to me ...

You'll have to excuse me, I have my SAT brain mush. I feel like i can tip my head sideways and my brain will leak out my ear. Anyways - you wanted supporting details? Well, at the moment I have very few. \

Basic theory: Dumbledore gave up his life for Severus, because he was more important. Dumbledore knew that Snape would be able to match the power that he, himself posessed, so he let Snape kill him. (why else would he plead for his life? not very DDish - staging.) Anyways, so DD and SS had it worked out that DD would die so SS could live, knowing he had the Unbreakable Vow, because SS had the inside to LV and Hogwarts. There for, SS is more important. And for all those English empaired people: DD= important SS= more important so in an exquation; SS-DD+HP-Horocrux= SS helping HP with Horocrux. That simple! Well, maybe only to me.

Supporting Details: DD pleaded for his life, meaning he probably either staged his death, or actually died, purposly giving up his life for SS. Not really a supporting detail - we don't know that true extent of SS's powers, but we can compare to DD very well.

SS: Powerful Oclemens/legillimens (spelling), mysteious, powerful, wise,

DD: Powerful Oclemens/legillimens, mysterious, powerful, wise,

-darn SAT liquid brain- Yes, it started out mush, and now it's liquid. If you can fill in some blanks - or anyone- feel free. I'll post after a good night sleep, much coffee/mountain dew, and brain surgery. I don't know how long this will take, but anyone feel free to build off my theory. It's all based on a thought - hope - I had, but nothing more. Occured to me in that wonderful hour and fifteen minutes, waiting for everyone else to finish the-test-that-shall-not-be-named. Anyways, base point, I want this to happen, so I tried to make a theory, you guys pitch in, and we can make it happen!


xOx Mischief Managed xOx



P.S. Bring back ingenious muddy footprints!
P.S.S. Save Lupin, join S.P.E.L.L.!

I don't know if Severus will actually be Dd's successor, but I do hope he turns out to be good. If and when he does, then I hope he gets the recognition he has so long deserved. He has done so many things: protecting Harry, providing the Order with information, etc. He has had such a difficult life. His father was a jerk. He was disliked at school. He is disliked by both the DE and the Order. Harry hates him. No one trusts him. Yet he is a brilliant and extremely powerful wizard. He deserves to have something go right for once. I do think he is good, and I do think he will help Harry in book 7.

Hang in there Severus!!!

Of course Snape will be Dumbledore's successor! He will be the hero of the Harry Potter books and Harry will become Voldemort's successor, right?

Just because you don't believe, or want to believe, doesn't mena you need to put us down..

But yes, I have thought it over and it can be possibly scetchy, but it could happen. You can't deny it. It isn't impossible, it's improbable, but not impossible. Snape has the power to be as great as dumbledore (with extra years and wisedom.) If he was only good. (Which were all ruting for eh?) I'm sitting on the fence on my own idea, causing my rump some discomfort.

xOx Mischief Managed xOx

As much as I adore Snape's character in the books - Snape won't be the next Dumbledore.

They are simply too different.

I do believe that Snape has some powers we have no idea about, as it is in DD's case. I believe that even if he cared about his own butt, he'll redeem helping Harry in the end, when only he will be able to help. I'd rather say that Snape will help to bring back the peace in the wizarding world.

i also think there's something behind dumbledore's death
it could've been planned, cos i dont think dumbledore would've trusted snape for nothing

well, I think it´s a very well thought theory, although a bit far fetched, but still, I like it. Maybe that thing Black_Velvet said about DD being killed so Snape gained LV´s trust and then turn into the good guy again, is true. I don´t know, but it looks like the kind of turns JKR likes making.

Well I admit i am a HUGE Snape fan but i just cant make up my mind on whether he is innocent or pure EVIL. So many posts make me sway back an forth and right now i am dangling in the middle so i just dont know. But i do really like the idea of Snape being DD successor.
He can rule over me lol

Hey now, let's not get nasty or touchy in here please otherwise we all know what will happen. This forum is somewhere that everyone can vent whatever theories they would like to - I don't think there's any need to get all bent out of shape, okay?

As another little side note, can you cut that signature down a bit please, xOxMescheif_ManagedxOx? If you have a check of the signature section at the bottom of the rules page, it explains there about the image size limits.

No offense meant.

Once a Death Eater, always a Death Eater.

Er, can I recommend someone? I want McGonagall to be the new head of Hogwarts.

Well Jelchu, you get your wish, she is the head mistress of Hogwarts. Lol. She took over when Dumbledore was murdered by Snape.

Anyways. I don't think that Dumbledore's death was staged, but I do believe strongly that Dumbledore gave his life for Snape, because he knew that Snape was more important. If this is the case, then technically Snape is Dumbledore's successor, because Dumbledore gave Snape the trust. If this theory stated here is correct, then Dumbledore would have told Severus everything, making him the new owner of Dumbledore's mysterious secrets. (I can just picture Dumbledore in the afterlife, cursing himself for forgetting to tell SS something.)

xOx Mischief Managed xOx

wow, you really know how to start a thread that gets people's attention mischief hahaha

Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, I can easily see Snape turning over to the "good" side anytime. I mean, it would make alot better of a plot than if he just stayed "bad" and harry killed him. I mean, we sorta see that coming already....

but yeah, Snape is obviously a strong wizard, and seemingly was the one Dumbledore put the most trust in. So obviously Dumbledore sees some sort of potential in Snape.

But yeah. Snape for new head of hogwarts (not any time soon of course though) heh

cheese puff?

Gosh, just the title scared me half to death!

I don't think Snape will be able to fulfill Dumbledore's role. Not because he is bad, evil, a death eater, a maniac, etc. No. Simply because people would not follow him, trust him, or will be willing to fight for and with him. Dumbledore was a strong leader not because of his cleverness, but because of his kindness, openness, understanding. Yes, Snape is a strong wizard, but he is weak emotionally. He is deeply disturbed on the inside, due to his childhood traumas he wasn't able to overcome and other hardships. If he wasn't able to deal with his own troubles, how can he help the whole world deal with Voldemort? Nobody would follow him into battle.

Lest some take offence to this, let me begin by clarifying that thi post is in no way meant as an offence to anyone whose beliefs are different from those expressed here and any offence so deemed is unintentional and more due to oversensitive tendencies of the potentially offended.

Now with that out of the way, Snape next Dumbledore????? The whole damm idea is simply ludicrous and trashworthy. Snape having powers equal to Dumbles, another manifestation of delusionary minds. Snape is nothing but a two-faced liar, whose so afraid of Tom that he cannot even bear his name spoken in his presence. I undertsnd my views on Snape wil probab;y offend many here, but he's a selfish prick who is only interested in self-survivla nd most likely playing both sides so see who comes out on the top and thereby switch his loyalties there. He's a accomplished wizard, but nowhere the level of Dumbledore or Tom, he's more likely below the level of Bellatrix, Moody and Dolohov. Snape is a sick person who gets his kicks by picking on school children who cannot fight back and before anyone says that it was meant as a pretense, you cannot be that convincing if you are not evil youself and Snape is nothing but. I would love to see Harry whip him into oblivion in the final book and the look of fear in his eyes when Harry snuffs the life out of him. The man was responsible for the deaths of Harry's parents and if he had any decency, he would never have acted the way he did with Harry. He's a sick person that's it. I am aware that my hopes may not be fulfilled in the final book and that JKR may turn him good (the very idea makes me sick). After all that woman has the history of making the better beings suffer in her story- Harry, Sirius being prime exmaples among others such as Remus, Hagrid, Neville, and others, while scum like Snape, Malfoy etc are enjoying a life of luxury.

I reiterate once again that this is not meant as a personal offence but jsut rants of a Harry Potter fan who hates Snape and is definitely not alone in sharing this hatred of Snape or in belief that Snape can be nothing but a sorry excuse of a human being

HAHA!!!! Im sorry if i offend any snape lovers but the chances of snape being the next DD are impossible, snape dosent have even the closest ammount of power as DD had! personaly i do believe hes eveil so i also dissagre that he would help harry at all...

I don't now if Snape is the same caliper of DD, but we do now that Snape when he was only a student at Hogwarts was inventing spells of his own wich Harry found in the HBP potions book. So maybe Snape is a very smart and powerful wizard. But compared to DD the greatest wizard in the world I don't know.

As to Snape killing DD I think it was all planned out from the beging. Maybe Snape didn't use the AK curse on him maybe he used on of his own non verbal spells to put DD into sort of a coma to make everone think he's dead. It says in the book when the AK curse hits him he goes flying in the air hangs there for a sec. then drops to the ground, but when Diggory was killed with the AK curse he fell limp right away.Something is fishy about the way DD was killed. Notice how he didn't try to convince Snape not to kill him he just pleaded for his life. Maybe this was part of there cover up. Plus Snape didnt hesitate to kill him.

I think Snape and DD new that Snape must kill him inorder to keep LV convinced that Snape was still loyal to him and only him. Maybe DD and Snape made the potion that DD had to keep drinking in the cave so that when Snape did do the AK curse it wouldn't really kill him maybe it just paralyzed him or put into a coma or something. I think that Snape remains 100% loyal to DD for reasons we wont find out unitll book 7. Let me know your thought.

All the evidence points to Snape being good..Without question he is good... Start from the end and go backwards. When Snape was fighting off HP he gave him advice and kept repeating it and never really hurting HP simply holding him back. DD was going to die anyways and with him asking Snape to finish him was the best way like everyone has said to get him close to Voldermort..enough said about that...When snape was teaching Defense against the Dark arts he actually thought it and not out of a book..to help harry get ready for the final battle. in book 5 DD gave Snape the task to teach him to close his mind and that WAS a huge job in which snape failed but was so important that only snape got to do it.. Snape overall has had somthing that only him and DD now about and thats why DD trusted him till the end and its not just about the getting potters parents killed its somthing much bigger i think....

I don't agree.Snape was loyal to DD,but not anymore.I don't call that loyal when he kills DD and run with the Death eaters.He maybe saved Harrys life because he thought that Voldemort was dead.And I think that Harry will revenge on Snape.I think that he will kill him.
We will find out in book 7.

omg, that's an awesome theory! i'm all for it, it would make soo much sense.

i have taken all kinds of flack in other forums for talking about this theory, and i am 100% all for it.. snape is going to be good, dumbledore sacrificed himself for snape and forced snape to kill him so he could gain even more of voldemort's trust.. snape is a highly accomplished wizard in many different areas, and while his powers might not equal dumbledore's yet , he is still capable of defeating voldemort and his death eaters

and just because snape is a jerk and has some problems on the inside, doesnt mean he cant lead.. he can work through his problems if he really wants to (although im not sure he does).. but he can still be a leader either way, just a different kind of leader than dumbledore.. and if snape ends up killing voldemort, all the wizarding world will look up to him automatically and he wont even have to stand up for himself anymore

one more thing, for all us snape lovers, is there a group that we can join kind of like S.P.E.L.L.?

Hmmmm...All very good explanations. I personally do not really know which way I think Snape is going with all of this. Whether good or evil, he is incredibly smart. I don't think that he's be up to the point of being Dumbledore, mainly because it really isn't known what side he's on and because he did, in fact, kill Dumbledore. He is not liked by too many people to become the next DD. We will see in Book 7 which twist JK has come up with, and you never know, it may surprise everybody. I'm not going to disagree with either side, to be honest. Thought I'd add an opinion.

Once again I would like to bring up my obsessive compulsive thing about the word 'Evil' which is being used lightly here, and therefore from now on if I do say the word, it shall be in these quotations marks, like so : 'Evil" to quote other peoples words, kay! Good...
I do suppose that I am in the wrong crowd to be saying this, but I believe (as I have said before), that Snape acts only for himself, and whatever benefits him, is what he does. I think his loyalties lie within himself, exactly where his trusts lie, and that the only man I believe that he has ever respected besides himself is Dumbledore. Although I think he has a certain amount of respect for the Dark Lord, he still never felt the same way he did about Dumbledore as he felt for anyone else; I believe that he cared for him, because of what Dumbledore did for him, and I think he feels some sort of regret for killing him. Because of Dumbledore, Snape's connection/ loyalty to the Dark Lord will be tainted; he will remember until his dying day, what kind of man he killed, all for the sake of a weaker man (The Dark Lord doesn't read these right? Don't think he'd like what I'm saying here). I think that Snape trusted Dumbledore, though it was hard not to, and that his respect for the Dark Lord is only because of the power he has obtained, not because of the kind of person he is.

~La MaitressedeMort

Snape will not be able to full fill DD spot. FOr one simple reason, he can not forgive people. He held the grudge against James and Sirius for years and it even transfered to James' son. I do think he has the power, or close to it, of DD, but he has that flaw in his character that would prevent him from being a good replacement for DD. I do think that he did not want to kill DD but he had to b/c of the unbreakable vow. If he was more forgiving than he would make a good replacement for DD

If Snape were to be Dumbledore's successor then that would mean that he would have to come all the way back to Hogwart's and persuade everyone including the ministry that he is totally innocent. I really want to see how J.K.Rowling will bring back Snape's character in the last book.

I was just loking at a message from a moderator and thought about what you were saying. I think that Dumbledore was preparing harry to be under the guidnance of Snape. the occulency and other items. Also DD did trust snape too musch for my care.Snape could know secrets about voldemort that no one else know and would be the essential for harry to know.

P.S. I hate Snape to my death so if this theory is true I will put my foot in my mouth.

Snape can be the next Dumbledore but one thing is for sure there is no more Dumbledore for Harry anymore. For Harry Dumbledore would be irreplaceable. And Snape help Harry to find the Horcruxes, I dont think so, because Snape says in Book 6 that Harry is no more than a mediocre wizard. and snape hates harry, under no circumstances would he work with Harry.

evenif it is like that kid one thing is that Harry could possibley need . snape might not beable to replace Dumbledore but he could be the single purposeful thing that Harry needs to defeat Lord voldemort

well...i think that the onnly reason thaat snape killed DD was cuz either he killed him, or he himself died, and i really don't think he wanted that 2 happen. sooooo...i can c how u got ur theory. but, i don't think snape's bad, just not good. it amy sound confusing but it's like saying i don't hate that prsn, i just don't like them. c wat i mean???? hopefully u do.

im not putting any one down but i dont think that snape is on the side of good seeing as he killed dumbledore and has only been at the school on voldemorts orders acting to gain dumbledores trust and also playing the good guy so as to keep him from azkaban

I am a believer that Snape will die in the next book. So he cannot be the next Dumbledore. While Snape is indeed a powerful wizard, he is not in the same league as Dumbledore. I think he is as powerful as Bellatrix or Sirius but more than Lupin and McGonagall. That is just my impression so far. He does seem to keep his strongest powers hidden.

i agree with you
Snape's actually on the "good side", although dumbledore is dead and snape did kill him, yes, but it was on dumbledore's orders only so snape could gain the total trust of He Who Must Not Be Named! also note that avada kedavra curse isnt supposed to cause a noseblleed or blast off a person, but dumbi sufered frm both coz, as professor moody sed, that for the avada kedavra, u need powerful magic and really mean it, Snape was a powerful wizard, but he didnt mean killing dumbledore so it jus caused dumbi only a noseblled and getting blasted off,....
also that dumbi saying "plz severus" just be4 he died, can mean that snape shud move on wid wat they had decided, that snape shud kill dumbi; dumbi sacrificied himself for harry, cause he knew he wouldn't be that much help, but snape cud be if he had a total trust of the Dark Lord - he cud help harry.
AND also note...that...snape taunting harry bout being weak in occlumency and non-verbal spellls hav two meanings - one that either he is teasing him OR that Snape is hinting that Harry has to master them, i.e occlumency and non-verbal spells in order to thwart the Dark Lord.
also,
if you remember in the fourth book i.e.Goblet Of Fire when Dumbledore calls everybody in his office after cidric's death and tells everybody to do a job he tells sirius to go somewhere and doesn't tell anyone else what he has told him to do i am 100% sure he tells him to go to lord voldemort

First I would like to say that I believe that Snape is on the good side but the idea that Albus will be replaced by him is...crazy...lolz. Well it is I mean Albus clearly has a much better personality, which Snape can never match in seven lifetimes. Also, nobody would Snape to be the Headmaster after he killed Albus (even if Snape is on the good side). And lastly, Snape will probably be killed in the 7th book. Thats all!

I dont know what i believe in that! There are parts that are believable, ie. gaining Dark trust and then turning on them but the next DD? Anyway, lets wait and see what happens and all credit to you if you are right!!!

dumbledppr believes in second chances and snape made DD think he was remorsfull. That is the reason dumbledor trusts him so, also Snape has saved DD life a coup;e of times.

Snape has the magical competence to become headmaster; and the support of the syltherin community who are powerful.

However, I think his involvement in the death of Dumbledore will stop him from ever becoming headmaster.

Whatsmore, I suspect Snape will not survive book 7, so he will never have opportunity to replace McGonagall.

I really want Snape to suffer in book 7; then at the end, we find out he was on the good side .. and his suffering and death is seen by the magical community as an unfortunate tradegy.

In any event, I'm a Sirius fan ... so I don't like Snape.

In a way i think snape can be the next dumbledor, in a way i dont. Dumbledor was the greatest wizard throughout the age. evryone says it, noone can do what dumbledor does.

I think that snape has very strong powers and that yes hes good, but i do not think that he will be the next dumbledor, noone can be...

ThePrincess

I like snape. He hate's Harry, thats for sure. But as far as him being evil, i find it had to believe. I would really suck to have the two most powerful wizards (snape and voldy) both on one side. I also think that snape knows about the horcruxs, because DD wanted him when they returned from the cave, even before seeing the dark mark, and also after getting the ring.

Assuming Voldemort doesnt know that others know about his horcrux's, that means snape hasnt told him. if snape can hid something that big, he can likely hide other secrets.

i believe DD sacrificed himself so Draco and his mother would live, and the more time i read the book the more likely this seems. DD would have insisted that snape do it so draco could live. And DD knew the DADA job was cursed, he must have known a reason why snape would need to leave the school.

And DD is not stupid, and he doesnt need a wand to do magic. He died on the tower because he planned it so.

Well.. i am pretty sure that no one would want DD to become Headmaster after killing the previous one but maybe thats just me.

Snape could never be the next Dumbledore. It is sooooooooooo crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Snape might be good, but we will find out in July!

uh...you have point, dd could of done that, but i dont know for sure. I want to believe Snape is good but i still have doubts.

well, personally, I think that maybe snape IS good and is just trying to gain Voldemorts trust so he can help dumbledore. like a spy for dumbledore but faking to be voldemorts best. BUT, i think that snape is not going to be the headmaster because most of (i guess all) the whole school knows that snape killed dumbledore. WHY then would they let him be headmaster?!?! OR maybe, dumbledore could of left a note...saying to let snape be headmaster if HE resigned...o0o... yea...lol. then again, maybe dumbledore is not dead yet...really. and besides, if he IS dead, maybe he bacame a ghost. yay theres just a lot of ideas and comments, everyone with their own opinion... but what does J.K. Rowling have for us?!?!!? ....we wont know....YET. haha. yet again, she might have something in store for us TOTALLY differ. than what we would of expected or such a surprise that we didnt even think about it. or simply as simple as simple can be. though its usually a BIG surprise like how dumbledore died...tragic...of course... all we could hope for is...THE BEST! YAY!

i just read over the replies and i agree with Ivy. though whats strange is that my name IS ivy. lol thats weird... i might agreed with others but iono. well isnt Harry Potter JUST AWESOME?!?! and j.k.rowling! i love THEM!

but 1 thing is that i dont really like snape that much...actually, i dont like him AT ALL. hes just...so creepy...o well.

I don't think that SS wants to be the next headmaster at Hogwarts. I do think that he is on the right side though (good side). DD's death solves a few problems, SS looks good to LV, he keeps his promise to Narcissa, Draco isn't destroyed or possibly killed by LV. I think that DD staged the whole thing because he needed a strong presence on the dark side (snape), to give HP a chance to defeat LV. If not for SS, HP will face unbelievable odds in defeating LV. With SS on his side, even covertly, he has an ally strong enough to face LV, and an accomplished occlumens so LV won't suspect anything.
SS will turn out to be good, he may still be killed to satisfy the readers, but he will definetly help HP to win the battle.

yea thats like what im saying, Jamdan. but i dont like Snape. i dont know why...? its not the that he seems to be on Lord V's side but something else...

I dont think anyone in our lifetime could become the next Dumbledore

Dumbledore is held in such high esteem

Having said that Snape is my favourite charachter and I could not bear for my judgement to be proven wrong and him being on the side of Voldermort

Snape does not know how to react around people. When he was young he was a loner and had the fun poked out of him by the other kids - especially James and Sirius

This has left him with a big inferiority complex and he wont let anyone get close to him

I am certain that Dumbledore does want Snape to help both Harry and Draco wherever he is now

Can not possibly accept that Snape is to become the next DD! Not to offend anyone but I have thought he was evil from the very first book. I am dead set against him being good. Reasons- he took the Unbreakable Vow to help Draco and if Draco failed he was to complete the task set to Draco by the Darklord, he has alway's been so mean to the trio, in the fifth book I am sure that he enjoyed "practicing" occulmnency with Harry, he came up with that ridiculously cocky nickname The Half-Blood Prince, he mad eup the spell that nearly killed Draco who will by the way return to the good side, and last but not least he MURDERED Dumbledore.

Well, don't get me wrong, I believe Snape is on the good side, but he will never be the next DD. The main reason I say this is that DD's strength stems from his compassion and love for others. This is something Snape will never understand to the depths that which DD has achieved. Both are excellent wizards highly skilled in Occl. and Leg. and all. But that's as far as their similarities go. DD commands respect not through his words but his actions. Snape commands respect through his words and not his actions. That right there sets them worlds apart.