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Lee
I read that J.K. Rowling had said that there were several scenes in POA that could help you figure out what is goigng to happen in book 7. She said that the directer put them in witout realizing it. I haven't had time to rewatch since I saw this quote and am curious about what the hints could be. what do you all think? any theories out there?
felix_felicis_444
QUOTE (Lee @ Oct 25 2005, 05:34 PM)
I read that J.K. Rowling had said that there were several scenes in POA that could help you figure out what is goigng to happen in book 7. She said that the directer put them in witout realizing it. I haven't had time to rewatch since I saw this quote and am curious about what the hints could be. what do you all think? any theories out there?

Oooooooh...when did she say this???? In an interview?? If so, PLEASE POST IT!!! Sounds interesting!!

anyway, I have no clue what the clues can be......
and they have to be little things that were in the movie, but NOT the book...because JK Rowling said the director put them in (as you told us) "witout realizing it." I really just don't know..


hmmmm...


_daviD
Nimbus
QUOTE (felix_felicis_444 @ Oct 25 2005, 06:13 PM)

Oooooooh...when did she say this???? In an interview?? If so, PLEASE POST IT!!! Sounds interesting!!

If you have the DVD, she says it in the special features on the second disk. She says something to the effect of "I got chills because he had put a scenes in there that forshadow things to happen in the 6 and 7th books.."
Lee
Thank you, Solorund. I have been racking my brain trying to remember where I read that. I had forgotten about the dvd. I also believe I saw it online. I can't remember wich webpage, but it is one that has a back issue of interviews given by JKR. I was reading them for research and came across this. It stuck in my head. I wish she would ellaborate more. I know she won't because she doesn't want to give anything away, but I wish she would just tell us one of the places so we could all try to figure out why that particular scene, set, or whatever, is important for the future book.
felix_felicis_444
Oh, man!! I don't have the DVD....

oh well, even if I did I would not have a clue of what could foreshadow the book! Maybe if I found something that foreshadowed HBP, I might be able to start from there, but I doubt I will even be able to find that!!

Well, if anybody has any ideas, definitely keep us all posted!!


_daviD
KylePotter
i think that it is either ron and hermione or....when snape guards the three of them from Lupin
kats
Ooh..I've just posted my idea about this in Cuaron's "intuition" - a foreshadow, it's exactly the same topic!
And I'm too lazy to copy past it so just click on the link and read! tongue.gif
mysterious_witch
WOW! how interesting! ... but unfortunatly i have watched the movie so many times now, and i havent realised any scenes that i thought, " Why is that scene in the movie?!" lol,l but anyways ... good luck with finding any scenes that kinda stand out lol, and let us know if you do!
shelerella
Yes! I do remember seeing that on the DVD, but I forgot about it...Ugh now it's going to drive me crazy wondering what it is alluding to. I can't even imagine where this is going..I mean I know how I WANT it to go..but clearly that's not the same thing or DD would still be alive...
Dementika
I am trying to remember what was in the movie and didn`t came in the book and the only thing i can possibly say is when dumbledore saids something about dreams... after sirius sneak in the castle and all the students are sleeping all together... do you remember the lines? i deffinetely have to watch it again... he comes at harry and saids ...... something ... gosh! I can`t remember but i do remember that wasn`t in the books..
El Barto
Unfortunatley we might have to wait until book 7 comes out and then go back to figure out what she meant. Its kind of hard to figure out if you haven't any idea what to expect. You can relate this to Nostradamus where we find out what the quatraine meant after it happened because thats when it makes sense.
HermioneClone
I heard that too. One thing makes me tihnk of the "Snape Loves Lily" theory.
In PoA, Harry and Lupin are talking about Lily.
Script:

PROFESSOR LUPIN

The first time I saw you, Harry, I
recognized you immediately. Not
by your scar. By your eyes.
They're your mother Lily's.
(nodding)
Yes. I knew her. She was there
for me at a time when no one else
was. We used to talk for hours.
She was not only a singularly
gifted witch but an uncommonly
kind woman. She had a way of
seeing the beauty in whoever she
met, even -- and perhaps most
especially -- when that person
couldn't see it in themselves...
Lupin's eyes glaze in memory, then he blinks, smiles.

PROFESSOR LUPIN

Which perhaps explains her
affection for your father. James
had, shall we say, a certain
talent for trouble. A talent, rumor
has it, he passed on to you.
Lupin turns, eyes Harry affectionately. Harry smiles
vaguely.




When he says what I have bolded, I always think of Snape. . .that she would still love him and have compassion for him.
Potter4president
I agree KylePotter about the Ron and Hermione thing. There are many times when Ron and Hermione show that they sort of like each other but aren't quite there yet. I think that could be it.

I also think that HermioneClone has a good point about Lupin's line on the bridge. I, however, did not take it to mean Snape; I thought about Lupin. He is a werewolf and if most people knew that, they didn't like him or were scared of him. But Lily would have seen past that. She would have seen that Lupin is a good person and befriended him and helped him. Perhaps there were times when Lupin doubted his "worthiness" or something because he was a werewolf but Lily saw the goodness in him and helped him. I noticed this before but I never thought much about it. I just thought it was something the movie had added in for interest.

I am interested in what everyone else thinks about this, too.
Arcturus
I agree that this bridge scene with Lupin talking about Lily was the one JKR was describing. Certainly I think Lupin was hinting to his lycanthropic situtation and Lily's understanding, and that's the way the viewers should have looked at it, since movie-goers didn't know Lupin was a werewolf yet, but I also think that that scene can be applied to Snape. I believe that Lily understood and befriended Snape (not to say they were in love), as both were interested in Potions, and she helped him out in the Pensieve scene, though he called her a Mudblood since he was annoyed a girl had helped him ... I believe that Snape hates Harry because he looks like James, but that Harry having his mother's eyes reminds Snape of Lily, and he feels obligated to help him (though he also has the life-debt from the prank due to James that he wasn't able to fulfill, and presumably carries that down to Harry).
*phoenixcore*
I agree with several of you that the bridge scene was about how Lily viewed Lupin, and not Snape. Arcturus was right in saying that Lily wasn't really Snape's friend or anything, she just treated him like a human when so many other people disliked him and teased him. Also, I'm sure that Lily's view of Snape changed once he called her a Mudblood.

- Phoenix
snapeslittlewitchie

Hey! I think I read about that somewhere. Man, I really need to get a new copy of that DVD. The one I have isn't original so I don't get to watch all the special features... dry.gif
megan_de_lioncourt
I totally agree with the Lupin bit, when hes talking about aall that on the bridge. I thought of snape when i watched it the other day. Also we see in book 5 she tried to stick up for snape, and the were both good at potions.. maybe there is something between them.. Also what apart the part when snape tried to protect the three of them from lupin when he was a werewolf? Could be a little more in that maybe
molly_of_slytherin
i definitely think it will have something to do with lupin, snape and lily and things that happened in the past. what happened in the movie that wasn't in the book? grrr. maybe the 7th book will feature a shrunken jamaican head. tongue.gif

it could have something to do with time and time travel, because in the third movie there was so much emphasis on time in the little in between bits, such as the clocks and the season changing. maybe there are parallel universes or something. that may be a little bit sci-fi though.
bellarosa
Are you joking me?!? It wasn't an accident! Jo monitors whats going on and she for sure ASKED Alfonso to put the scenes in there...

which are the scenes where Snape defends the Trio both from Lupin Werewolf and Sirius, mad convict. I bet you a million Sickles and I'll eat my hat if Im wrong.





firefly
I think Alfonso wanted to put a graveyard on the Hogwarts grounds in POA, but JK said not to because it would give away too much about a future book. She could have meant HBP though, when DD dies. But we could hear more about a graveyard there in the last book?!?!
Triad
He did want it in POA but, without saying it might giver things away, JKR said no because she had planned it for a future book and didn't say which one. Its quite possible it was for HBP considering in GoF Cedric was the only one to die and I don't think his parents would have wanted him buried on the grounds, nor do I think they'd let anyone bar Dumbledore be buried on the grounds.

And bellarosa, JKR does not monitor everything. There are things in there that don't have any relevance to the book which I dont' think she'd want in there considering other parts of the book were taken out to fit these new scenes in. She signed over the right to the movie so she has a little say in what goes on but she doens't have the right to demand a scene change or to add things in or whatever, so don't get your back up and tell us what JKR MUST have done when you don't know for certain. Your not her so you can not say what she would have done.
bellarosa
Triad, Im sorry if I offended you. I tend to get very strong and controlling when it comes to discussions...makes it a tad bit funner or no? Yes you're right, JK probably doesnt have a say in everything as she herself goes see the movies on premier nights but Im sure she has says in much. I mean, she isnt going to let Yates add in scenes where Harry and Hermione snog each other to death since it hasnt been in any books but she probably can and does make specific request to the producers...she is the author after all. But yes, clearly not in everything. Again, sorry if I came on a bit strong. I am not as you say JK i know that. Perhaps we can change the deal to 12 Sickles....and I havent got a hat....Forgive me?

Anyway. There was a rumor that one of the titles JK considered for the seventh book was Hallows of Hogwarts. Hallows is a term for spirits and the dead. It would make perfect sense then that there was a graveyard at Hogwarts and HBP confirmed it. So it would be perfectly reasonable for JK to deny Alfonso from adding it in, it would obviously give alot away. The question is though, who else would be buried at Hogwarts? Just the founders?
I daresay, Alfonso has been the best director as he causes the most discussion.
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Triad
No offense caused on my side, I'm the same as you most of the time. I tend to get a bit...shall we say over-bearing in topics. Especially when people talk as if they know what JKR is thinking or has said....kinda gets my back up. Just like in the Emma Watson Airbrush 'scandal' But anyway. No need to exchange money for forgiveness, it's granted anyway. Shame about the hat though. wink.gif

I do agree that she has a fair amount of say in the way things are portrayed I just don't think she's there for every single second or she is involved in every single discussion they have about the script, scenes, whatever. And I seriously doubt she'd let them do a Harry/Hermione ship when it's so obvious Hermione is going to end up with Ron, but that's for a different topic.
Padfoot, Prongs and Moony
Okay, I don't think JK has much say in the movies, like Triad and bellarosa are discussing, but Alfonso is really nice, I think, the whole cast would want her opinon, and change something if she wanted it to be different. She doesn't have much say in the movies, but that's what I think. I never heard that Alfonso was going to put in a graveyard... hmm... right about Hallows though, she just changed it to Deathly Hallows... but that is what I think on the whole 'say or not' in the movies.
Sofia_Snape
I agree with those saying that the subtelties of hermionies and rons relationship such as hermionie grabbing ron's hand in the buckbeak scene. these sort of subtle glances couldn't have been portrayed as effectively in writing.

Snape guarding the trio is interesting-- i think that this movement was obviously something quite natural that Alfonso thought a teacher, however hated, would do and therefore i don't think he would have discussed it extensively with JK. i think this may show snape's good nature and where his true loyalties lie.

lupin's discussion on the bridge i think both refers to him and snape. it is almost like he is thinking about the pensieve scene at this presice moment. Therefore it seems like everyone was in love with Lily.

Don't know about you but im more interested in the past (ie the marauders, snape and lily) than the present.
harry_loves_hermione
I've read in a certain book speculating about ..err.. predictions for what will happen on the next book, and there's a quote from her that goes something like this, when she was asked about what Hermione will see in the mirror of the erised.

" Hermione might see herself with... someone else..." Something like that. I forgot already. I was thinking whether it was Harry OR Ron.
Dumbledore's Widow
QUOTE(harry_loves_hermione @ Jun 18 2007, 08:04 AM) [snapback]399964[/snapback]

I've read in a certain book speculating about ..err.. predictions for what will happen on the next book, and there's a quote from her that goes something like this, when she was asked about what Hermione will see in the mirror of the erised.

" Hermione might see herself with... someone else..." Something like that. I forgot already. I was thinking whether it was Harry OR Ron.

I remember reading about this too. She might have said it during the book reading she was involved with in the summer of 2006. But, I can't be sure.

If Hermione is to see herself with someone else then I would have to say that it is with Harry because the major concensus (although I disagree!) is that Hermione will be paired with Ron in the final book. So the someone else has to be Harry.

I personally don't consider Viktor Krum as a contender. I think he served his purpose in GoF. Should he resurface in the final book it will be as a means to make Harry jealous. Although, Krum may play a major role in the fight against Voldemort. Other than this, I don't think he will win Hermione's heart!
harry_loves_hermione
QUOTE
If Hermione is to see herself with someone else then I would have to say that it is with Harry because the major concensus (although I disagree!) is that Hermione will be paired with Ron in the final book. So the someone else has to be Harry.

I personally don't consider Viktor Krum as a contender. I think he served his purpose in GoF. Should he resurface in the final book it will be as a means to make Harry jealous. Although, Krum may play a major role in the fight against Voldemort. Other than this, I don't think he will win Hermione's heart!


Point. There's already the Ron/Hermione item, so the "someone else" should definitely be Harry. I really agree with you Dumbledore's Widow.

As for Krum being a contender, nah, I don't think so. Hermione just sees him as a loyal friend, and no more than that. She even said some not-so-nasty things about Krum at the beginning of the fourth book. I really doubt the possibility that the "someone else" can be Krum. It just doesn't fit. smile.gif Power to the Harmonian People!!
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