Jerry Plumber
Jul 19 2005, 02:58 PM
There are always some continuity failures in the HP books, that we all love and think are quite funny. Also they show that JKR is only human. These are some i've found, but feel free to post your own.
Please put the page #.
Page 176:
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| "Malfoy looked rather as he had done the time Hermione had punched him in the face." |
(pertaining to book three) but hermione slapped him, punching only in the movie.
Page 586:
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" 'we must consult the governers,' said proffesor flitwick" Later 'then i must agree with Filius that the right thing to do is to is to consult the governors, who will take the final decision.' (professor Mcgonagall) |
Flitwick said it, not Filius.
EDIT: Filius is probably Flitwick's first name. courtesy, ian adams.
Ian Adams
Jul 19 2005, 03:03 PM
I heard somewhere (on the official site, I believe) that Filius is Professor Flitwick's first name.
Yes, as with many huge projects, there are bound to be continuity errors. Respectfully, I don't believe it is polite to J.K. to point them out, though I think she is probably used to it. There have been some rather serious ones in the series she has had to correct, for example, the order James and Lily came from Harry's wand.
As for the difference between a slap and a punch, maybe we can talk to Dobby about that (his knobbly little fist knocking out Kreacher's teeth).
Black old sun
Jul 19 2005, 03:15 PM
But how could Kreacher insult Harry if Dobby couldent insult the Malfoys? Is Kreacher really Harrys?
Stupefy
Jul 19 2005, 03:24 PM
I noticed one early actually re-reading C.O.S, Percy takes 5 points from Ron but in O.O.T.P, Hermione says prefects can't take points from pupils.
But hey indeed, we are only human and the books are amazing, slight errors or not!
Jedi Master Doug Eric
Jul 19 2005, 03:50 PM
When DD is drinking the potion and passes out, Harry uses reenervate to try and wake him up. In the others, the spell is enervate.
django
Jul 19 2005, 04:56 PM
i am sorry if anyone stated this.
if unforgivable curses can't be blocked, how come when harry used the crucio curse on snape, snape just blocked it with the flick of his wand. in OotP, harry uses the same curse against Bellatrix, and it hit's her, but it doesn't last long. how could snape have blocked the curse?
Prof-Patti
Jul 19 2005, 05:15 PM
| QUOTE (Jerry Plumber @ Jul 19 2005, 08:58 AM) |
There are always some continuity failures in the HP books, that we all love and think are quite funny. Also they show that JKR is only human. These are some i've found, but feel free to post your own.
Please put the page #.
Page 176: | QUOTE | | "Malfoy looked rather as he had done the time Hermione had punched him in the face." |
(pertaining to book three) but hermione slapped him, punching only in the movie.
Page 586: | QUOTE | " 'we must consult the governers,' said proffesor flitwick" Later 'then i must agree with Filius that the right thing to do is to is to consult the governors, who will take the final decision.' (professor Mcgonagall) |
Flitwick said it, not Filius.
EDIT: Filius is probably Flitwick's first name. courtesy, ian adams. |
Pg 485 when Slug had the wine tested by a house elf, so the mistake would not happen again like it happen to your friend Rupert,
why didnt he say Ron.
kayleemalfoy
Jul 19 2005, 05:27 PM
How I answer a few of these
Pg 485 when Slug had the wine tested by a house elf, so the mistake would not happen again like it happen to your friend Rupert,
why didnt he say Ron.
~~Slug was horrid with names, unless there was a Celebrity involved. There's actually a thread about this elsewhere.
in OotP, harry uses the same curse against Bellatrix, and it hit's her, but it doesn't last long. how could snape have blocked the curse?
~~There is a certain skill level and malice involved in the proper use of the Unforgivables. And Harry does not yet fully possess these.
When DD is drinking the potion and passes out, Harry uses reenervate to try and wake him up. In the others, the spell is enervate.
~~Guess that's why it didn't work properly, huh.
Dumbly-dorr
Jul 19 2005, 05:39 PM
Even if Harry was not experienced Snape should not have been able to block it.
kayleemalfoy
Jul 19 2005, 06:17 PM
| QUOTE (Dumbly-dorr @ Jul 19 2005, 11:39 AM) |
| Even if Harry was not experienced Snape should not have been able to block it. |
Per Bellatrix Lestrange in OotP:
"Never used an Unforgivable Curse before, have you, boy? You need to mean them, Potter! You need to really cause pain--to enjoy it-- righteous anger won't hurt me for long..."
Nothing ever states that the Unforgiavables, Crucio in particular, are unblockable. If I'm mistaken, please point me to the information so that I may correct myself.
Kingsley Shacklebolt
Jul 19 2005, 06:48 PM
Has anyone noticed that there are actually first years participating in the Quidditch-tryouts? I thought that it was said in PS that first years were not allowed to play Quidditch at school and that Harry was an exception?
misterbeaver55
Jul 19 2005, 06:50 PM
i hate pointing out jk's mistakes. i always feel bad.
in HBP, chapter 3, page 38, it says:
"The misty fug his breath had left..."
shouldnt it be 'fog' ??
or is 'fug' an old english term??
Matthew
Jul 19 2005, 07:08 PM
Just to clear something up: the fake Mad-Eye Moody says in Goblet of Fire that the Avada Kedavra curse is unblockable, but the other two are not. Harry blocks the Imperius Curse on two occasions in the fourth book - it's just a matter of willpower.
Jerry Plumber
Jul 19 2005, 07:11 PM
thank you Mr beaver, For bringing us back on topic.
This is not a descussion on the unforgivable curses, or Kreacher!
Also, please put the book version you're using, (US childrens, British/Canada Cildren's, Us adult, british Adult...)
kayleemalfoy
Jul 19 2005, 07:24 PM
| QUOTE (Jerry Plumber @ Jul 19 2005, 01:11 PM) |
thank you Mr beaver, For bringing us back on topic.
This is not a descussion on the unforgivable curses, or Kreacher!
Also, please put the book version you're using, (US childrens, British/Canada Cildren's, Us adult, british Adult...) |
This is a discussion on possible mistakes, correct?
All this has been is a small debate as to wether an instance from HBP is, in fact, a mistake or not.
And I'm not sure, exactly, what version the quote I used came from. I'm at work, and don't have acces tomycopy. I took it from the HP Lexicon.
Dumbly-dorr
Jul 19 2005, 09:35 PM
Kayleemalfoy you're right I just looked back into GOF and it doesnt ever state that crucio is unblockable. Now I don't understand why Bellatrix didn't block it. She sounds like a pretty darned powerful witch to me, she should have been able to block Harry's curse.
blah
Jul 19 2005, 09:53 PM
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| Has anyone noticed that there are actually first years participating in the Quidditch-tryouts? I thought that it was said in PS that first years were not allowed to play Quidditch at school and that Harry was an exception? |
I can't find the page now, but I'm pretty sure it said something about 'there were even some hopefull first years . . .' not a direct quote but I think that since Harry was captain and people knew that he got on the team in his first year, they were probably hoping he might over-look this in picking his players as well.
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i hate pointing out jk's mistakes. i always feel bad. in HBP, chapter 3, page 38, it says: "The misty fug his breath had left..." shouldnt it be 'fog' ?? or is 'fug' an old english term?? |
Pretty sure this is only a typo - but yeah I also thought it was some funky British term at first.
I mentioned this in another post but if even JK herself has said the following:
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Edward Hollet representing W H Smith - If Voldemort ever encountered a boggart what would he see?
JK Rowling: The thing that Voldemort fears more than anything else is his own death. It its the quest of his life to cheat death, so we would have to see himself lying dead on the floor. |
Why isn't Voldemort keeping a closer eye on the horcruxes even if, like Dumbledore states, "I believe that Voldemort is now so immeresed in evil and this crucial parts of himself have been detached for so long, he does not feel as we do."
realbullet
Jul 19 2005, 10:59 PM
Stupefy writes; "I noticed one early actually re-reading C.O.S, Percy takes 5 points from Ron but in O.O.T.P, Hermione says prefects can't take points from pupils."
In one interview, JKR pointed out that prefects can take points from their own house, but not others. This is why Percy can take 5 points from Ron.
Kingsley writes: "Has anyone noticed that there are actually first years participating in the Quidditch-tryouts? I thought that it was said in PS that first years were not allowed to play Quidditch at school and that Harry was an exception?"
I don't have my SS/PS in front of me, but I believe that Ron stated that "First years never make the house team." -- Not that first years can't make the house team. Apparently, they can try out, but the are not likely to make it.
misterbeaver55
Jul 20 2005, 01:46 AM
i feel bad for rowling when we all point out her mistakes. we should all give her credit for writing these books. i mean she has to be a genius to be able to come up with all these stories with numerous twists.
^ just a comment!
HPisHXC
Jul 20 2005, 02:45 AM
| QUOTE (misterbeaver55 @ Jul 19 2005, 12:50 PM) |
i hate pointing out jk's mistakes. i always feel bad. in HBP, chapter 3, page 38, it says: "The misty fug his breath had left..." shouldnt it be 'fog' ?? or is 'fug' an old english term?? |
i think its actually a british term. more and more british terms are being kept instead of changed. in SS they use the word "booger" because its american, but i noticed HBP uses the word "bogey"
Aurora Black
Jul 20 2005, 04:02 AM
First year can try-out for quidditch try-outs, never mentioned a rule against it, it's just, as a first year, most are just learning to fly, so i doubt that any of them will know how to play, or be remotely good at quidditch
cosmic
Jul 20 2005, 04:12 AM
On page 419, Harry is sitting in bed at Hogwarts and decides to call on Kreacher to tail Draco. He calls Kreacher's name and Kreacher and Dobby apparate into his room and wrestle at the foot of the bed. I didn't think anyone could apparate within Hogwarts, including Dumbledore. That's why he walked to Hogsmeade to apparate to the cave with Harry, right?
I assume I missed something rather than blame it on J.K. I will not argue that she's the smarter of the two of us.
Dumbly-dorr
Jul 20 2005, 04:43 AM
No you didnt miss anything but I think apparating is different for house-elves. Their power is one we really don't understand yet, maybe we'll get more in the 7th book. I think they should be able to apparate because it will help them get around the castle faster.
IamMeILuvMe
Jul 20 2005, 05:00 AM
I dont know where it is,and some-one might have ssaid it but,one time Harry said,in Book 6......
"do you think..do think that well,she (Tonks) might have...loved Sirius?"
but JKR has said that Tonks is realated to Sirius,she said it in book 5!
Bouncing soul
Jul 20 2005, 06:16 AM
For Quidditch first years cant have their own broom sticks but are aloud to try out for the teams
Lulu
Jul 20 2005, 10:27 AM
| QUOTE (Stupefy @ Jul 19 2005, 03:24 PM) |
I noticed one early actually re-reading C.O.S, Percy takes 5 points from Ron but in O.O.T.P, Hermione says prefects can't take points from pupils.
But hey indeed, we are only human and the books are amazing, slight errors or not! |
I thought Hemrione said Prefecs can't take point from other prefecs. But they can take points from other students.
Stupefy
Jul 20 2005, 10:38 AM
| QUOTE (realbullet @ Jul 19 2005, 11:59 PM) |
Stupefy writes; "I noticed one early actually re-reading C.O.S, Percy takes 5 points from Ron but in O.O.T.P, Hermione says prefects can't take points from pupils."
In one interview, JKR pointed out that prefects can take points from their own house, but not others. This is why Percy can take 5 points from Ron.
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Ooooh, thanks for clearing that one up for me!
Oh and I would agree with your point that first years usually don't make the team, not that they can't play. I think because they aren't allowed broomsticks some people may of got confused. If you notice, in H.B.P, all the first years are on the school brooms!
realbullet
Jul 20 2005, 04:03 PM
I'll admit it isn't sporting to go looking through the books for errors, but it is kind of fun.
1) Here is a silly little mistake (unless this is another one of those British terms.
On page 63 of the US adult version (when Harry & Dumbledore enter Slughorn's residence: "...something darkly red and glutinous was spattered over the wallpaper." I find it hard to believe that the dragon's blood was glutinous -- I'll bet it should have been gelatinous.
2) A second error (I may be wrong on this one). On page 161 of the US edition, Snape takes 70 points from Harry & points out that this is the earliest that any house has been negative. However, at the end of Ootp, Snape tried to take points from Harry for fighting, but he couldn't because they were already at zero.
3) Where is the extra OWL for Hermione? She took 11 OWLS, Ron & Harry took 9. Instead of Divination, Hermione took Arithmancy & Runes -- that's only 10.
Stupefy
Jul 20 2005, 04:22 PM
glu·ti·nous ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gltn-s)
adj.
Of the nature of or resembling glue; sticky
Hope that clears that one up for you Realbullet! It is language thing!
Jerry Plumber
Jul 20 2005, 05:48 PM
| QUOTE |
| A second error (I may be wrong on this one). On page 161 of the US edition, Snape takes 70 points from Harry & points out that this is the earliest that any house has been negative. However, at the end of Ootp, Snape tried to take points from Harry for fighting, but he couldn't because they were already at zero. |
-Not a mistake. He would have put them in the negative, but Prof.McGonagal added more.
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| Where is the extra OWL for Hermione? She took 11 OWLS, Ron & Harry took 9. Instead of Divination, Hermione took Arithmancy & Runes -- that's only 10. |
possibly a mistake, but Hermione never said she got ten Outstandings, ron did. we know Ron's not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. (she didn't take 11 owls in the first place, and she only got 9 O's.)
Things to be cleared up:
-Avada kedavera is the only unblockably curse.(mentioned so far)
-House elves have their own brand of magic, unconnected to that of humans.
-Incest (at least marrying one's cousin) seems to be acceptable amongst wizarding families. (to stay pure blooded) Ex. the Gaunt family.
abzz
Jul 20 2005, 06:31 PM
I simply hate pointing out mistakes...because i know that 99% of the time i'll be the one making the mistake...besides i'd say that JKR is brilliant to even come this far...imagine the amount of minute details cramped in her head...revolving around her magical world!!! She's a human...we sometimes forget...and human's make mistakes!!!
thatsamoree
Jul 20 2005, 07:06 PM
| QUOTE (Prof-Patti @ Jul 19 2005, 11:15 AM) |
Pg 485 when Slug had the wine tested by a house elf, so the mistake would not happen again like it happen to your friend Rupert, why didnt he say Ron. |
I'm pretty sure he didn't say Ron, because he never got his name right, but always called him something else. But i could be wrong

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Jerry Plumber
Jul 20 2005, 07:42 PM
Slughorn had no interest in Ron, and obviously did not care to learn his name. That also happens in COS with different people, when Binns is talking about the chamber. Both Slughorn and binns are terible with names, as Binns calls Harry 'perkins' in Ootp.
EmmaWatsonsHot
Jul 20 2005, 07:57 PM
| QUOTE (django @ Jul 19 2005, 10:56 AM) |
i am sorry if anyone stated this. if unforgivable curses can't be blocked, how come when harry used the crucio curse on snape, snape just blocked it with the flick of his wand. in OotP, harry uses the same curse against Bellatrix, and it hit's her, but it doesn't last long. how could snape have blocked the curse? |
Maybe this is because Snape turns out to be the H.B.P. He seems to have Dark Spells pretty close to Voldemort's. I mean, after all, look at that spell that Harry used on Malfoy (I wish Malfoy would have died)... Snape invented that didn't he?
dpthcharge8806
Jul 21 2005, 01:03 PM
I also found a mistake. I am rereading all the books and I noticed when Hagrid first meets Harry he says that Harrys parents were headboy and headgirl at Hogwarts. In OotP though, Lupin says that his father was never even made a prefrect. As far as I know you can't be a Headboy without first have being a prefrect.
Emilyamt
Jul 21 2005, 01:41 PM
| QUOTE |
(django @ Jul 19 2005, 10:56 AM) i am sorry if anyone stated this. if unforgivable curses can't be blocked, how come when harry used the crucio curse on snape, snape just blocked it with the flick of his wand. in OotP, harry uses the same curse against Bellatrix, and it hit's her, but it doesn't last long. how could snape have blocked the curse?
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Perhaps its because Snape is an Occulmens that he can tell what curse Harry is going to use and pre-empt it?
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A second error (I may be wrong on this one). On page 161 of the US edition, Snape takes 70 points from Harry & points out that this is the earliest that any house has been negative. However, at the end of Ootp, Snape tried to take points from Harry for fighting, but he couldn't because they were already at zero. |
I believe that it says that Snape said that no house has been negative prior to the start of term.
Darth_Oz
Jul 21 2005, 01:53 PM
| QUOTE (dpthcharge8806 @ Jul 21 2005, 01:03 PM) |
| I noticed when Hagrid first meets Harry he says that Harrys parents were headboy and headgirl at Hogwarts. In OotP though, Lupin says that his father was never even made a prefrect. As far as I know you can't be a Headboy without first have being a prefrect. |
Not necessarily the case actually - Harry was not made a prefect but I'll put money on him being made head boy!
realbullet
Jul 21 2005, 02:09 PM
dpthcrge writes "In OotP though, Lupin says that his father was never even made a prefrect. As far as I know you can't be a Headboy without first have being a prefrect."
Somewhere in OotP someone points out that you can be head boy without being a Prefect first (& they use James Potter) as the example.
Jerry Plumber
Jul 21 2005, 04:19 PM
If you're trying to prove a point, please use facts and give the page number.
Example: The only unforgivable curse that can't be blocked is Avada Kadavera , Page 191 Gof, Canadian edition.
purrsgirl
Jul 28 2005, 07:41 PM
I know that it is may seem impolite to point out mistakes, however, I would also think J.K., would feel slightly honored that so many of us have read the books multiple times that we notice things like that.
One I would like to point out is:
In GF (U.S. Paperback, p. 177) during the sorting hat's song, the sorting hat says: " 'Twas Gryffindor who found the way, He whipped me off his head" but in HBP (U.S. Hardcover p. 505) Dumbledore states "I am confident, however, that the only known relic of Gryffindor remains safe." Dumbledore pointed his blackened fingers to the wall behind him, where a ruby-encrusted sword reposed within a case.
MOD EDIT: Refer to post below yours. I have added your second post here...
I would like to add another oversight that I found when rereading 6.
When Slughorn shows them the bottle of Felix Felicis he says it's "enough for twelve hours' luck." (p. 188, US Hardcover) However later when Harry is about to use it to question Slughorn (p. 476, US hardcover) Harry says, "I don't reckon I'll need all of it, not twenty-four hours worth,"
Hallia
Aug 1 2005, 10:52 AM
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i_heart_harry
Aug 1 2005, 04:19 PM
O.K. This is my first post, so if I'm doing something wrong, please point it out

I noticed that on page 316 (of the hardcover Canadian Edition) Harry looks in the Half-Blood Prince's copy of Advanced Potion Making, and sees that it was nearly 50 years old. He says that neither is father, nor his father's friends were at Hogwarts 50 years ago. But on page 563, Snape confesses that he is the Half-Blood Prince, and was'nt Snape in the same year as James and friends at Hogwarts?
bubotuber_pus
Aug 1 2005, 04:22 PM
I'll answer you: many people think that it was Snape's mother book, which Snape got from her later.
Joanne1988
Aug 1 2005, 06:40 PM
| QUOTE (kayleemalfoy @ Jul 19 2005, 11:27 AM) |
When DD is drinking the potion and passes out, Harry uses reenervate to try and wake him up. In the others, the spell is enervate. ~~Guess that's why it didn't work properly, huh. |
Isn't this because usually (and im guessing here) he would be bringing something not previously alive, alive, and this time, hes REenervating him as in bringing him BACK alive?
pheonix song
Aug 1 2005, 06:46 PM
Don't have my book with me but.....Harry has to do tryouts for the Quidditch Team. When telling Katie Bell that she does not need to try out for the team but is already on it she tells him that it'd a bad move on a captain's part to rely on old teammates and to pick people based on friendship. Up until the 6th year it has been the original team with no tryouts with the exception of 5th year when they had to replace Wood, but Angelina only had tryouts for that position. She requested the original teammates be there to help pick feel people out.
i_heart_harry
Aug 1 2005, 07:32 PM
I also noticed that Hermione took the apparation test, which was only avliable to people who turn 17 on or before April 21. But on page 47 of PoA, (Softcover Canadian Editon) Hermione says her birthday is in September. But I think it that something will happen at the next set of apparation tests, something that J.K.R. wanted only Ron and Harry to attend, and not Hermione, which could be one reason why her birthday was changed.
Girby
Aug 1 2005, 07:45 PM
But if you'll remember, Hermione was almost 12 when she started Hogwarts. So there's no mistake there. She'd have already been 17.
Hallia
Aug 1 2005, 09:17 PM
To attend Hogwarts you have to be eleven before the first of September. Therefore, when Hermione, Ron and Harry started at HOgwarts they were all eleven and Hermione turned twelve right after starting there. The year befire she would have been still ten and therefore she couldn't attend Hogwarts yet. JK has explained this in her site.
PurpleOutkast
Aug 2 2005, 01:51 AM
| QUOTE (misterbeaver55 @ Jul 19 2005, 12:50 PM) |
i hate pointing out jk's mistakes. i always feel bad. in HBP, chapter 3, page 38, it says: "The misty fug his breath had left..." shouldnt it be 'fog' ?? or is 'fug' an old english term?? |
This is from Answer.com....
fug (fŭg)
n.
A heavy, stale atmosphere, especially the musty air of an overcrowded or poorly ventilated room
So,yes it is a word, and not a typo. Which I thought my self untill I saw the word in both my British and U.S.editions
cleo
Aug 2 2005, 11:10 PM
how can a house-elf apparate to Harry's side in the hospital wing, and once again in the common room when apparation is impossible in Hogwarts?