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War Ich Du
i dont think harry has yet fit into the profecy, voldemeort has not yet shown that harry is an equal. "...and the dark lord will mark him as his equal..."

i still have not read in any of the six books that harry is voldemorts equal. voldemort still extremely underestamates harry and believes that harry is very weak. i also want to know why J.K. would put that neville also fits the description of the profecy, its a useless bit of info unless neville is the one with the power to vanquish voldemort. also this part would have been taken out of the book by editing because J.K. says that harry is the one to vanquish voldemort. the only reason it would be in the book is if the auther said it was crucial to the plot of what is to happen. if nothing happens between neville and the profecy then i have to wonder why they left it in the book.

now heres what i think will happen at the end of the book. there will be a big battle in which harry will fight voldemort or come close to a fight. when this happens one of the main caracters will sacrafice themselves for harry, so that harry has time to get away. this is what i think J.K. meant by reprieve, the definition of reprieve is "to delay the impending punishment or sentence of (a condemned person). " so when J.K. said that one caracter gets a reprieve it doesnt mean that they get to live, it just means they will have to suffer at a later time. so continuing were i left off harry escapes the big battle along with ron or hermione (GINNY IS NOT A MAIN CARACTER SO SHE WILL NOT DIE, I DONT CAR WHAT YOU SAY BUT SHE NEVER WAS A MAIN) depending on who sacraficed themselves and neville will then come back into the book. when another battle begins harry will die and neville will then be the one to stop voldemort.

thats what i think will happen
hpalltheway
to your first question war ich du, your question on how the dark lord marked harry is by the scar. secondly we don't know if lv underestimates harry, since we don't know what lv is thinking of, we just haven't seen that yet. Thirdly jkr probably added neville into the prophecy just to throw us off a little, we know thats what she likes. I agree that ginny isn't a main character, but she is a major role in the life of harry. And i completely disagree with you on harry will run away from the fight and neville will take over. in my opinion neville is just a wimp, even after the ministry in OotP, i don't think he would have the guts to finish lv off. harry on the other hand, i couldn't see him running away from a fight with lv, especially now what dd has told harry. not only that but harry wants revenge on lv and dd, and sirius.
Black..Sirius..Padfoot..Snuffles
Ok,
I have been thinking this for a while and I just have to say...

I think that Wormtail (AKA Peter Pettigrew) will die at some point. I think that he will try and save Harry from being killed by Voldemort. Didn't Dumbledore say something about a bond they share because Harry saved his life?
I think Wormtail will repay the deed by saving Harry's life but will be killed by Voldemort.
Does anyone agree with me?

hpalltheway
i don't know. i would hav thought that if wormtail was going to repay harry, it would have been done by now. if wormtail truely would save harry's life, he would have done it in the grave yard the night that voldemort came back. but you know, i could be completely wrong, as with everyhing eles. interseting question though.
bookworm101
wormtail is in debt to harry,and jk did say thats going to come in the 7th,so maybe he'll relize that james was truly good,and that wormtail should repay harry because james is dead,so he defends him when voldy tries to kill harry.but my theory could be wrong,we know wormtail is a big scaredy cat. ohmy.gif
hermione rox
I think you have a good point there.
Since in the third book, Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry stopped Sirius and Lupin from killing Wormtail.
Wormtail will remember what Harry did for him, and
will repay him in some way.I also agree, that DD and
Sirius will return in some form, some way.
I do however, think its a possibility that Harry will die in the end.
I would be pretty shocked by this, nor do I want him to die,
but JKR would probably do that just to end the series.
Either that or that Harry would destroy Voldemort in the end.
bookworm101
harry did not save wormtail,he just wanted to give him to the dementors,which is 10 times worse than just dying.wormtail has a lot of bad memories.jk could make voldy die to end the series too.
rachel_1989
yes but he still saved him form dying which is what caused the charm giving Wormtail to be indebted to Harry. Even if Harry meant it in a bad way such as handing Wormtail over to the dementors then he still saved his life.
bookworm101
yes,you do have a point.i think wormtail will sacrifice himself for harry. or maybe wormtail will have the courage to kill him.i really dont see why nobody does,its obvious that deep inside them,they dont like voldy.
rachel_1989
It has to be Harry who kills Voldemort or vice-versa but Wormtail could sacrifice himself to save Harry and allow him to kill Voldemort. And I think it's that they are scared of him because he's such a powerful wizard or because they are respected/feared for being associated with him.
Romana
I think that Snape is going to die in hero... I think we will not know if he is bad or good until the very end... Voldemort is going to try to kill Harry with a curse and then Snape is going to run over Harry and ''received'' the curse and Harry would be able to kill Voldemort...
OR... I don't know how but I have a feeling that Harry is going to die... I really don't want to but I think that's a possibility... and it would be an emotive end... I would so cry... It would be so sad that it would be kind of a great end... I don't know if you understand what I mean...
hoju_88
i recon that both harry and voldemort will die in the end but hopefully only voldemort dies not harry
rachel_1989
It's fair enough for you to believe that they will both die but it would be nice to hear why you think it instead of just that you do.
hpalltheway
i will help you to get started hoju_88,

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i recon that both harry and voldemort will die in the end but hopefully only voldemort dies not harry


it is possible that they both die in the end because, lets say that harry kills lv, well, there is a pretty good possiblity that lv will be surrounded by de, and the moment that harry finishes off lv, the de will finish harry off. It is also possible that harry will finish off lv, and feels so incomplete that he feels he need to be with someone, someone already close to harry's parents-sirius.

we really would like to know what your reasons are for saying this.
rachel_1989
It's also possible that Harry will be surrounded by members of the Order who would be able to protect him from the Death Eaters once Harry killed Voldemort. If Harry felt empty and wanted to be with someone, wouldn't he just want to be with the people who were/are close to him rather than to his parents such as Ron, Hemrmione, Ginny, etc.
magistenator
I think is that Harry will not die, because in the prophesy it said that they can't live while the other is alive. So my guess is that 1 of them shal survive and that will be Harry then. I do think one of Harry's friends will die but not Ron or Hermoine or Ginny.

Some of you say that Harry has seen to many die and that he wants to die 2, but I don't think so. I think he loves the wizarding world to much and he doesn't wont to leave Ginny.

I know it sounds to happy but I just think it will be like that.
hpalltheway
ok, if the prophecy says neither can live while the other survives, harry will kill lv, but then thats it, the prophecy is fulfilled, so if harry goes through the veil, the prophecy no longer applies to him, it is his choice. besides what good is the wizarding world when you've lost almost everything?
bookworm101
well still,i would want to live if i was a wizard.harry can come to hogwarts and teach if he lost everything.which i doubt he won't because either hermoine or ron has to live because jk said 2 main characters will die,one of them harry or voldy.so if harry lives,one of his friends will be with him.
Snuffalupagous
Im thinking Hagrid will play a big role in the 7th book. I meen it is LV fault that Hagrid was excpelled from hogwarts. Im thinking maybe (hopefully not) hagrid might die trying to kill LV. I think that is going to be a trend in the 7th book, people are going to sacrifice themselves to save harry.
hpalltheway
i agree snufalupagous, i have said this in another thread, but my friend and i were thinking who could die in book 7, we came up with hagrid (because he is the only one and the most important to him in the wizarding world, he's the one who showed harry he was a wizard). and lv would obviously have to die. and harry will walk through the veil, it fits the pattern (it kinda like lotr, frodo goes into the west) well harry's going into the west is the veil. besides this way harry isn't dying, he's just diappearing.
bookworm101
oooooo nice theory snuffalopogus! hagrid might die.i never really thought about him,he never played a major role in any of the books so i guess i thought he wouldnt play one now.........

anyway thats off the point.im still trying to figure out a sentence,the last word being scar,for the end of the book.i think harry will live and the last thing we read is him,memories flashing through his eyes and then his scar disappears.
Snuffalupagous
Not to sound like a mod or anything. tongue.gif but just to help out, i think there is a thread all about the last sentence in the book. biggrin.gif

but since we are on the subject, yeah i think its going to be somthing of the sort of "and they sat back and thought about harry and his scar" i know thars lame but i just had a suddin bain freese thing so i coulnt think of what i originaly wanted to say. But the only way i can think of scar being the last word is if harry dies... sad.gif
rachel_1989
I'm not sure of what the last sentence will be but it will probably be something to do with either someone getting a scar or, more likely, something happening to Harry's scar like it fading away or something like that.
Joe Robinson
obviously harry and voldermort are goin to die at the end and the last line will be "theres was something missin from harry, His scar".

i think ron will go out with hermionie and victor krum will seek revenge and kill rom how cool would tht be

i think ron will go out with hermionie and victor krum will seek revenge and kill rom how cool would tht be
rachel_1989
Why would Harry's scar disappear?
And the bit about Krum seeking revenge seems a little far-fetched, why would he, if he loves Hermione as much as you are making it sound like he does then would he not want her to be happy and if that is with Ron, then so be it...He also doesn't seem the kind to seek revenge or kill someone.
Knowitall88
I think both ron and hagrid will die i dont really agree with the whole krum thing but i guess its possible. i think ron will die doing something stupid but brave and hagrid will step up and take the curse which will hit him in just the right spot ot kill him
bookworm101
i totally agree with you,knowitall88. i think ron will sacrifice himself for hermoine,he'll end up loving her and when voldy tries to kill hermoine ron will step in the way.
UnknownLocket
Yah i too think that Ron will die. Donno how or why but he's gonna go. Also Snape will die probably doing some noble thing for Harry, as that he is on the good side. OR maybe Bella will die because both Harry and Nevile greatly dislike her and probably want revenge.

As for Krum, I don't know about him and don't really think that he will play a big role or any role at all in the next book.
hoju_88
harry will kill voldemort and then realises that ginny is the person that he needs tp be with

thats how the book should end
wizardwonder
so i agree that snape will defenatly die i think harry will be in a tight spot like the graveyard and his wand will be just out of reach so when the AK is shot Snape will step in and take it and harry will get his wand and the end... no more voldy though i do NOT think Ron willmdie for Hermione i do think he will save her but im pretty sure they will be for atleast a while together and then one of them die leaving the other with a nothing to loose attitude for revenge and that will take out a big chunk of the DEs
bookworm101
i dont mean to sound bitter but i hope snape dies.ive wanted him to die ever since the first book. hermoine is pretty good with defensive spells so she probably wont die but ron.....
EmmaLover101
I say that Harry and Voldemort will both die. I think that something will happen to where both get totally wiped and then it will probably rewind time and make it all as if none of it happened. You know, as if the prophecy never existed. But anyhow. that is just what i think, and yes, if she does kill off Snape in the book, then i will drop the book and start jumping and doing a dance of joy!!! I hate that stupid git. Ginny will tag along with Harry, Hermione, and Ron. Ron will most likley be killed by a Death Eater and Hermione will most likely kill Snape ( as mentioned above by a previous member in which i can not remember the name 8/ ) and as far as Ginny goes, Voldimort will capture her and then most likely kill her to bring Harry to the batle grounds, and then Voldimort and Harry will start to duel to the death and then just, like, disappear. but anyhow. i am not sure on what all is going to happen, but there is just way too much to try and squeeze in for the last book. either way that is why i say that Harry is going to die. because she says that she stopping at #7 so she will kill him off.
bookworm101
i dont want harry to die!! i highly think hagrid will.or maybe not,i dont no.i think sirius will come back live.that dude is awsome!
rachel_1989
How many times are we told throughout the first six books that there is no magic on Earth that can bring someone back from the dead and Nearly Headless Nick has already said that Sirius wouldn't come back as a ghost since he wasn't afraid of death, besides if he did then we probably would have seen him in the Half Blood Prince, but yes that dude did rock!
Anglar
IMO, it will end with Harry and Ginny and Ron and Hermione in Hogsmeade finallly able to enjoy a day without worrying about a killer on the lurk. Ron will be eating BBEFB, get one that really doesn't agree with him, and swear off ever having another one. Ginny will pick the box up and off-handedly remark thatBBEFB was established in the 1950's. Harry will suddenly remember something else DD said to him.

As to the two main characters who will die. Let's not forget that JK considers just about everybody who's in more the two book to be main characters. I would guess Petunia and Dudley for to reasons. 1) He hasn't been able to touch them until now. 2) He'll want to destroy every last trace of the blood of Harry's family.

The character who gets a repreive, I'm pulling for Cedric Diggory.

Ron and Hermione will have their big battle with Draco, Crabbe, and Goyle. Hermione will knock Ron out of the way of a nasty curse and take the brunt of it, but not die. And, just like every other time he has had to, Ron will cast spell after spell without a hitch to defeat the three. Hermione will keep him from killing Draco. It'll be worse for him knowing his life was spared by a muggle born.

I really hope Draco embraces being evil. We already have two guys on Voldermort's side who will help out Harry. We don't need a third.
rachel_1989
I like the ending, any thoughts on what Harry will suddenly remember or will it be something he is told within the book itself somehow?
I suppose the Dursley's would definately count as main characters so it's possible that they will die, but I also think that a few of the characters from the wizarding world, maybe the bit about two main characters dying was meant as an "at least two main characters will die" and JKR just didn't bother to correct people when they assumed it meant only two tongue.gif
How would Cedric get a reprieve if he is already dead and the dead can not be brought back to life?
Nice idea about Ron and Hermione vs Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle, and Ron does always seem to be able to cast spells when he really needs to and yes Malfoy would hate to be spared by a "mudblood", even though I'm not sure Ron could bring himself to kill anybody, even Malfoy. What happens to Crabbe and Goyle?
I think he probably will embrace being evil, but only because he thinks that now that Dumbledore is gone nobody will be able ot defeat Voldemort since Malfoy doesn't exactly rate Harry very highly as a wizard and so he will want to be on the winning side.
bsa
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I think Ginny is gona be killed by Dark Lord in the end..this is gonna be voldemorts revenge from Harry for destroying his Horcruxes he is gonna make him suffer by killing the person he cares most.But Harry has obsessive love for Ginny which is a very powerful thing. I think something like this would happen "Harry gets killed by killing curse(destroying the final Horcrux) but he comes back from death to protect his love ones because love is more powerful than Dark curse.The door of the locked room of Department Of Mystery would open and Harry would come back from death.Voldemort would understand that his power is his love so he would kill Ginny which would make harry very angry and he would send curse to Voldy which would destroy his body and all the powers and he would be worse than dead( Dumbeldoer mentioned so many times to Voldy that there are things worse than death) and Voldy part soul is gonna escape(he is not gonna go to Veil because he is afraid of death).Harry once destroyed Voldy would die on his own will (because its all about our own choice like Dumbeldore said) and he would prefer to die and join his parents,Sirius,Dumbeldore and now Ginny."
Belladonna
I think the climatic battle between Harry and Voldemort will cause the world of magic to be destroyed. No more magic. No more magical world, creatures, plants, spells, wands, houses, pictures. No more quidditch. No more power, period.

Remember JKR was quoted as saying in a previous interview that she didn't want sequels to the HP series. If there is NO more magic - anything, there certainly cannot be any sequels.

Hope is not all lost. There is always prequels!

What is your thoughts?
bookworm101
i seriously think it might be ron.ron and mayb ginny.thats because of ginnys love for harry obviously and ron because he seems like a likely character to die.
rachel_1989
Well if it's Ron and Ginny then that would mean that both Harry and Voldemort live and I definately don't think that that's going to happen. As for there being no more magic, defiantely not, how would they destroy magic? It's not like something you can see and touch, it's just there. And if they destroyed magic then they would destroy love as well and one of the main themes of this series seems to be that love conquers over evil and so for love to be deroyed would destroy this message.
bookworm101
fine then,ron and voldy.and i agree with rachel. love can never be destroyed,its like a feeling you have like happy,or sad.as for magic,i doubt it.you have to be "special" to be a wizard,its in your blood.so you cant just take magic away.
rachel_1989
Yeah, taking magic out of your blood would be like taking the bit of you that says you have blonde hair or whatever out, it just can't be done. Magic will stay, simple as, it would be too complicated to explain apart from anything else so JKR wouldn't do it annyway even if it was feasible.
bookworm101
yea. i think either it will be ron and voldy who die or snape and voldy.i really despise snape (sorry for all you snape lovers) and i think he deserves to die. same with voldy,of course.
fluffy
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i think that harry might well be a horcrux, and that there will be a final duel after all the other horcruxes are disposed of. Voldy will kill harry and kill himself in the process due to harry being a horcrux that he never knew about
rachel_1989
I thinkt that Voldemort would be aware if Harry was a horcrux, sooner or later, after all, it's part of his soul and while it may not be all in one piece it's still part of him, it's like when you break your arm, it may be in two pieces but you can still feel it.
Ending? Voldemort and Mrs Weasley, it makes sense, Voldemort is the "bad guy" and Mrs Weasley has her 7 Weasley children and Arthur and considers Harry and Hermione to be family so it sort of makes sense that she would be willing to sacrifice herself to save them and to defeat Voldemort. Weird I know, but it just kinda came into my head...
bookworm101
is mrs. weasley a MAIN character? i mean,i dont think she'll die,shes so "insidish",she doesnt really go out alot,i dont even think she'll be in the battle. hagrid might die,it would be nice if none of harrys friends did.
rachel_1989
I'm not sure if she's a main character but she's certainly not a minor one, so I dunno. It was just a thought, no serious thought went into it just thought I would put it out there for people to think about. Is Hagrid a MAIN character? I mean, yeah, he brought Harry to the Dursley's the night his parents died and he told him he was a wizard but he doesn't really have a huge role in the books.
UnknownLocket
No, Hagrid doesn't really have a large role in the books. that's why I don't think that he will die. I definately think that Ron is going to die. Harry's best friend, Hermione's lover, he's gonna go. That will make Harry so mad that he will REALLY want to kill Voldemort and enjoy every moment of it. So, Voldy's gonna die too.
bookworm101
ok guys,i just had a really wild and wacky theory.what if voldy dies,and then someone truly loyal to voldy,like bellatrix or someone takes the place of voldy as the "dark lord",and the end is someone else has to defeat him,like harrys had his turn,now itll be someone elses turn with a scar on him arm maybe and lived to the new "dark lords" curse.
rachel_1989
Wouldn't happen. It's too repetitive and pointless. It just wouldn't make a good story to have a Voldemort II whoever it was and the whole thing about Harry surviving Voldemort's curse is that it was because his mother sacrificed her life to try and save his and so in order for the second part of your theory to work somebody would need ot sacrifice their lives in order to save another, in a completely selfless way, there would be too many deaths and it would be too repetitive.
Sorry if all that sounded a bit blunt...
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