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Anastantin
We all have the idea that Codric Gryffindor and Salazar Slytherin were the greatest enemies. What if Gryffindor made a Chamber like Slytherin did? What if this Chamber is the Room of Requirement and there besides the several rooms to hide something etc. there is a room that Gryffindor had hide his treasures and his artifacts?And maybe LV knows about this and found something and Horcruxed it or he doesn't know and there Harry will find a lot of help.

I also believe that Harry is Heir of Gryffindor (this is out of topic), but there is a reason to find out the secret room of Gryffindor.

What do you think?
PUNJABI
i don't really think that harry is a heir of gryfiindor and for the room than dumbledore must have knon it or atleast sirius or james must have know it
El cheeser puff
what would be so amazing and interesting about that? I mean sure, that'd be cool. But it wouldnt really be a fact that we need to know, would it? It's not like the whole series would all come together with us finding out that one fact.... would it?

But thats just me. feel free tp point some stuff out.


cheese puff?
Nimbus
Well the whole reason Slytherin made the chamber of secrets was to hide his secrets from the rest of the founders. I dont really think Gryffindore would have anything he would need to hide from the founders. I suppose he could have treasure, but I was under the impression the his sword was his most prized possession and that is kept in the headmaster's office so if his most prized possession is kept in a non-private place then I don't understand why he would make a secret place for things less valuable.
silverstag
yes,lv could have found out about it and there fore could have easly have gotten something.but if dd had known about the room that may be where he got the sword.remember in ootp the book being soo discriptive about the bloody axe.well the room might have been godrics secret room(not chamber).that may be why it is called the room of requirement.but if im not mistaken,the bloody axe might have been godrics and lv knew about the room,then there must have been something in the room.lv would have found something,because he left the axe behind.
El cheeser puff
Theres already a thread for the Axe. and the Axe was in HBP not OotP. But yeah, I still dont see the significance of the room being his.

whooped dee doo! the rrom was Godrics. How is that special? heh

cheese puff?
Louise
If you're going to be rude about peoples theories then we'd really rather you kept your opinions to yourself unless you fancy the idea of being placed on mod preview. Up to you.
Anastantin
I think that DD didn't know about this room until year 4(if I'm right). So how rae we sure that he knew all the room's functions? Maybe like us he thinks that this room is only transforming to the room of each time will.

The only trophy that DD has from GG is the sword.How the great cofounder of Hogwarts left only this? Isn't it a little fishy?

I'm feeling that we didn't find out all about GG...
Nymphe
QUOTE (Anastantin @ Nov 12 2005, 06:52 AM)
I think that DD didn't know about this room until year 4(if I'm right). So how rae we sure that he knew all the room's functions? Maybe like us he thinks that this room is only transforming to the room of each time will.

The only trophy that DD has from GG is the sword.How the great cofounder of Hogwarts left only this? Isn't it a little fishy?

I'm feeling that we didn't find out all about GG...

Yes, you are correct about DD discovering the room in GoF, but, remember, the Sorting Hat was Gryffindor's as well. I wonder why they never put the sword back into the hat.
El cheeser puff
Now wait a second Dana! I was not being rude. I was simply joking around. Hence the "heh" All I asked was what the significance was about the RoR belonging to Godric. But I didnt just ask it, I put my emotion and personality into the post as well. I am silly, I joke around with people, and I thought I had made it clear that I was simply just being playful.

so please, in the future, I ask you to read my posts with an air of humor in them. I'm not trying to be a smart alec (heh, my name actually is alec) or anything, thats just how I am.

But back to the thread. Your right Nymphe about the hat belonging to Godric too, but that hat was a mixture of all the founders of the school. It thinks like the founders and chooses which students to be in which house by doing so.

And I think Dumbledore kept Godric's sword because it actually was the only obect from the great wizard left. Well, the only object that was his and his alone.

cheese puff?
parker
thats cool isnt it? IF indeed gryffindor's room of requirement is slytherin's chamber of secrets, then gryffindor's a more brilliant wizard wasnt he? he made a room that HELP those who needs it unlike slytherin's who houses a monster and kills.
Anastantin
Parker great!!!! Really great!!!! Genious!!!!!
I ain't figure that difference between the CoS and the RoR.
Brilliant!!!!
El cheeser puff
Ana, we're no strangers to sarchasm......

I know its not my place to tell people how to behave here at VTM, but come on, be a little nicer.
parker
QUOTE (El cheeser puff @ Nov 16 2005, 06:28 PM)
Ana, we're no strangers to sarchasm......

I know its not my place to tell people how to behave here at VTM, but come on, be a little nicer.

oh its alright El cheeser puff, i didnt know we're suppose to show how BRILLIANT we are while we're writing our little theories here in the threads....but apparently we have to. after all, Anastantin's right, i mean....we're prolly discussing the theories here with other 12-16 yr olds with better manners, right?


i dont mind having the brains of a flabberworm (if they have brains).

Anastantin
This is realy embarassing!
I know it is my ton...

But I really mean that this was brilliant!!!!!!!

I didn't say that to offend parker!

It is brilliant, because this is actually the difference between the two chambers!!

Honestly I didn't mean to offend parker.His/her idea is GREAT and I mean it.

Now I must be more temperate in the future and not show my enthousiasme.

Anyway parker REALLY GREAT theory again!And you are brilliant regardless of your age.And sorry if my reply in any way offend you.
SennaWells
I'd really hate to know what Godric was up to with that bloody axe...*smiles*

I'm going to swing the positive way and say that I actually kind of like the idea of it being Godric's room. It'd be really fun; I can imagine a few good plot threads running off from people exploring the Room of Requirement and then finding out was all Gryffindor's idea. I'm not sure if it's true, but it'd be certaintly cool if it were. It'd be even cooler if JKR did a really nice plot line involving the room. There's not enough cool stuff being used around Hogswarts, honestly. Plus fifty points to Anastantin for thinking of this.
priori_incantatem
Maybe the Room of Requirement holds a horcrux! I know, I know, it's always changing. But remember that room where Harry hid his Advanced Potion Making book, the same one where Malfoy hid the Vanishing Cabitnet? Maybe one of those thing jumbled in that room is a Horcrux.
I may be wrong, of course...
james pickles
i think it very very unlikely that the room of requirement is a chamber for godric gryffindor because:

1. why would he want to hide something he prized so much with little protection.

2. if he had treasure he would make it only so he could access it or someone close to him, not so anyone who could walk three times past a wall access it.

3. i have a feeling that voldemort was only obsessed with salazar slytherin when he was at school and not any of the other founders so i dont think he would have got anything even if godric gryffindor did hide something in the room.
Narcissa Black
priori_incantatem this is exactly wat i have been saying..since there is so much speculation on ravenclaws tiara being a horcrux do [u] remember that there was a tiara in the room of requirement when harry was looking for a place to put the potions book??? also harry wanted to HIDE it somewhere no one would find it similarly voldermort would have wanted to HIDE his horcrux where it wouldnt be found easily...[wat] better place than the room of requirement when it was the size of a cathedral and contained a billion books and junk??

MOD EDIT: Please be careful on the netspeak. 'U','wat' should have typed in full. Thanks.
parker
QUOTE (Narcissa Black @ Nov 27 2005, 07:07 AM)
priori_incantatem this is exactly wat i have been saying..since there is so much speculation on ravenclaws tiara being a horcrux do u remember that there was a tiara in the room of requirement when harry was looking for a place to put the potions book??? also harry wanted to HIDE it somewhere no one would find it similarly voldermort would have wanted to HIDE his horcrux where it wouldnt be found easily...wat better place than the room of requirement when it was the size of a cathedral and contained a billion books and junk??

wow...ravenclaw's tiara...cool... (i didnt know that one)

well, all harry's got to do then is to go back to the RoR and retrieve the book (would he retrieve it again??? now that he knows snape's the HBP?) and pocket the tiara as well (i dunno why he'd nick it tho')

i wonder if an 'accio horcrux' would work in the RoR... or just think of wanting the horcruxes and it will manifest on a table of something (just like the whistle) or errrrrr....

i wonder if it'd work if harry, before entering the RoR think: 'i need to go to the room where all the horcruxes are hidden....i need to be in the place where the horcruxes are hidden....etc ' assuming that the room knows wot a horcrux is tongue.gif
rjtwerp
i don't think that each of the four founders all have a secret chamber...the only reason that there is one for slytherin is because slytherin wanted to get rid of all of the muggle borns.
pygmy puff
i dont think that godric gryffindor has a secret chamber and i wouldnt see the point of him having one unless it was something of vital importance to the story, which i personaly dont think it will be and anyway, slytherin only built one so someday his true heir can finnish off all the people who he thaught werent worthy to study magic aka muggle borns. but thats just what i think.
SuperFawkes
I think that it would be cool and possable that the room of recriament was godric grifendors room that he made because of its usefullness and i think he would have done somthing like that to concell somthing important to destory the sylterheins true heir and to help his heir do it. (harry potter)
klutzaddict
i don't know that the RoR is Godric G.' s but it's possible that he knew about it... there are things greater than treasure in the world and there are definetly things more powerful than death and fear so...if Godric did hide something in there then what could he possibly want to hide he was known as "the most-brave" of them all and yet he chooses to hide something? i don't know if that works out.....but you may be onto something about Harry being the heir to gryffindor because....
1. he's been through more trials than 1/2 of the grown-ups and faced them with bravery
2. DD said in the 2nd book "it would've taken a true gryffindor to pull the sword out of the hat"
3. for centuries, G and S have been fighting
4. it'd make the story sooo interesting =)
Harry_Ginny777
well they said that R. Ravenclaw and H. Hufflepuff and G. Gryffindor all got along great but is was S. Slytherin that did not like it. and S. Slytherin had to be a cry baby and make his own chamber so i don't think G. Gryffindor made one for himself i don't know but that is a good theory he might have he might have not i guess we will see in the 7th book. (which i can't wait to come out)
SuperFawkes
Well i would be cool he might have made it with hufflepuff and ravenclaw they all made it and decided to make it become what ever you need it to be.... to help a new person....and yeh harry has been through alot and did pull the godrics sword it would be cool SS heir fights GG heir at the end smile.gif
La MaitressedeMort
Well, I'm not sure how we got on the topic of Harry being the ancestor of Godric Gryffindor, but just because the Dark Lord said he wanted something for Gryffindor, doesn't mean he ever got it. If he did, then my Harry being a Horcrux theory comes into play here, though I should probably be talking about Gryffindor's secret chamber, but seeing as I don't think he has one, and no one else is talking about that, I don't think, I won't bother. Harry technically is of Gryffindor (his parents were of the house), though I'm not sure how much that counts. Still, I think that if he couldn't lay his hands on an artifact, then, well, where's the next one? Which brings up back, or forward, to Godric Gryffidor's secret chamber, which might exist, though not so much of a lair, as a room, something less dark, secret, and cool. I don't think he's the heir, that's too obvious, and after we thought he was heir to Slytherin, though if the Imprint theory is right then he kind of is, but then to bring the Heir business back? No, it's not creative enough; she's already done it once, why do it again with the same character? I don't know, but maybe we should lay off Harry, and focus on someone cool, like... Me! No, the Dark Lord's way cooler. I'll go somewhere else and talk about how cool he is. Laters!

~La MaitressedeMort
ashlee_rae
It would be great if he did and i dont know bout harry
The Chosen Captain
You now I have been thinking about this for a long time. Maybe Godric made a secret chamber and sealed it. And within that sealed chamber lies powerful magic (possibly ancient books consisting of ancient and powerful spells). Possibly the place where Dumbledore spent his school summers and armed himself with powerful magic? Also to get into the chamber you must prove yourself worthy. Perhaps task(s)? and must be pure of heart?
Uglybaldboy
I've always thought that maybe all the founders had a room of there own, maybe not a secret chamber like SS, but just there own private/special room/area. And if i had to name them i'd say Hufflepuffs was the green houses (or maybe the forbiden forest) because of the earth connection (i.e. Huff = earth; Ravenclaw = air; Gryffindor = fire; Slytherin = Water. JK mentioned it in one of her interviews), and because she valued hard work. Ravenclaws would be the libary because she valued intelligence above all else. Slytherin values cunning so why wouldn't he have a secret room? But as for Gryffindor, i've always thought of the headmasters office as his special room, because the door knocker is shaped like a Gryffin (i know this one is a bit soft but its the way i've always sceen it).

As for the RoR it seems whoever did create it wanted to keep it a secret, and i don't see Gryffindor doing that. I suppose if anyone of the founders did it, i would choose Ravenclaw, becuase the room would obviously house lots of important information and the intelligent ravenclaws could utilise it

(I feel like i've gone a bit off track there!!)
f.lamanna
Each Founder has their own room, the house common rooms. The RoR would need to have been created by all four founders, if one had been left out then chances are members of that house would not be allowed in. Seeing that members of all the houses have used it, even Filch, then not one singel founder can be given credit. The CoS was created without the knowledge of the other three founders I am just curious as to hoe Tom found the Cos if he never had interaction with a family member that attended the school. I doubt that the founder each created a room but if they did, could there be another map, like the marauders, of the school hidden away that lays out every room. As for the sword and the sorting hat, I would guess it works like a portkey and transport the sword to whereever the hat is when needed, it did not actually reside in the hat.
R.A.B-horcrux finder
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QUOTE(Anastantin @ Nov 12 2005, 06:52 AM)
I think that DD didn't know about this room until year 4(if I'm right). So how rae we sure that he knew all the room's functions? Maybe like us he thinks that this room is only transforming to the room of each time will.

The only trophy that DD has from GG is the sword.How the great cofounder of Hogwarts left only this? Isn't it a little fishy?

I'm feeling that we didn't find out all about GG...

Yes, you are correct about DD discovering the room in GoF, but, remember, the Sorting Hat was Gryffindor's as well. I wonder why they never put the sword back into the hat.



he didnt discover it here it is simply the first time he talks about it, he references finding a bathroom there many times before in the middle of the night, though he might not know what it was until then
Spadice
JKR doesnt recycle ideas. slytherin had a chamber, gryfindor doesnt need one. she isnt that desperate for plot devices. it also wouldnt progress the plot further. there is no reason for there to be one. im not saying that there isnt one, but if there is i dont think that JKR will use it in the books.
After the Burial
Excellent point there Spadice. JK has never recycled a previous plot before. The idea that two founders would try to hide something from the others is too unimaginative. JK creates enough new plotlines that she has no need to recycle.
potter's_gurl
naa one hidden chamber in this series is good . i don't think jk would repeat stuff like that in the last book and i don't think he would he just didn't have the personality to do some thing like that maybe a seceret room to go away in and just be by himself but he's not like slytherin
TheManekin
He might, but i don't think it would be the room of rquirement, but maybe all the founders have there own room or chamber. And LV wouldn't be able to get into a secret gyfinndor room becasue we know how hard HArry tryed to get into Malfoys room.
Avada Kedavra 44
I think it is very possible that Godric would have a secret chamber inside hogwarts just like Slytherin. And maybe voldemort found it and hid a horocux in it. As for it being the Room of Requierments i dont think it is.
taintedlove-xx
Hm... i think that there is a good possibility of Gryffindor creating a secret chamber of his own, but referring to the quailites of Grffindors, would he have sunk as low as Slytherian, probably not ..
cutepuppylove93
I never really thought about that before, but thats really interesting. And maybe it is the room of requirement. And if that was Gryffindor's room then I do think Harry would be the heir of gryffindor. It kind of makes sense, since Voldemort was the heir of slytherin and there is a prophecy about Harry and Voldemort so it would make sense if Harry was heir of gryffindor. That a really cool thought, I hope they tell us something like that in the 7th book. . . Maybe all four founders of Hogwarts have a secret chamber. magic.gif
Albus Dumbledore
I do not think that Godric had a chamber, why would he need one? The purpose of the Chamber of Secrets was just that, to hold a secret, and that is very characteristic of Slytherin. Godric Gryffindor would have something more noticable, more noble to pass on his legacy. I think the story would take a turn for the worst if it were to introduce another secret chamber within the school. Lets hold our reserves for more information to be hidden in "Godrics Hollow".

~Albus
charming
Well...it could be ofcourse!
That they all had their own chamber...but I think it wouldn't be secret like Slytherin's!
The RoR is created by one or all four of the founders.
If it would be only one who made the room, I'd say it would be GG, but I don't know that for sure, it could be that all of them made the room.

But if they do have a secret chamber of their own, it's kind of funny no one ever discovered it yet! Not the twins, not Lupin, Sirius or James, not even DD!
So I keep on wondering...
I think we'll find it all out in the last(snif snif) book!
expecto_patronum
apparently the hat belonged 2 hufflepuff
if n e 1 was the hier of GG tehn i rekon its dd or hp or a weasly
trevors_protector
if gryffindor di make a chamber that contains a horcrux and harry has to find it that'd be like a repeat of CoS, i just dont think JKR would run out of ideas like that...if there was one though, maybe the 7th book would be called like Harry Potter and the Chamber of Gryffindor shutup.gif

This is in my opinoin, a very very slim possiblity.. just my opinion though
Spencer Potter
He might, but probably not in Hogwarts, but why was where Harrys parents lived called "Godrics Hollow"?? Maybe that was his place to be.. hmm I dont know. cool.gif
nosnits_2400
If u really think about it that could be true seeing that VD is the heir of SS and GG and SS were mortal enemies and now harry and VD are mortal enemies and so it would be for VD and Harry to end the SS and GG fued
serindipitylove
nah! i highly doubt that! the only reason why salazar built a secret chamber was because he didnt want "mudbloods" coming to hogwarts but the other founders disagreed and had mudbloods keep coming to school.
fish06
I doubt that this would be the case. Griffindor had no real need to create a secret chamber. He wasn't part of any skisms within the school that would cause him to go out on his own. As for Harry being the heir of Griffindor I suppose it could be possible, but I find it highly unlikely. It seemed that Dumbledore was really close to the Potter's I think he would have known. It also is really cliche to have Harry as the heir of Griffindor and LV as the heir of Slytherin. I don't think it is her style. But I could be completely wrong.
JerryMouse3
i think this idea is a little unlikely to be true because jk rowling doesn't usually repeat the same idea(or almost the same idea) in two different places but there is still the chance that godric gryffindor leaft some kind of artifact that voldemort used afterwards because the school is full of that kind of treasures.
stregatasogno
Well as some people have mentioned probably, there would be no Horcrux even if that WAS Gryffindor's chamber. They've already found the Horcrux that is gryffindor's treasure: the sword.

And I think if anyone's Gryffindor's heir, it would be Dumbledore. I highly doubt that it would be Harry, because JK likes to give foreshadowing to future events, and if we were find out that Harry is the heir to Gryffindor, we would have already seen clues of that we haven't.

It's a cool idea, though..=]
LoveLuna0911
First off, sorry if I'm repeating something someone has already said. If thats the case then you should he happy I agree with you! but anways... I've always thought theres more to Godric Gryffindor than we've learned so far. In book 2, we got our first bit on insight into how Hogwarts was founded (that and all the sorting hats song) but we never learned what happened to the founders after the founded Hogwarts. Were they the Heads of Houses until they died? We know Slytherin wasn't because he left and made his chamber blah blah blah. But what happened to the rest?

Godric's Hollow seems to me, the most likly place for anyone to find out more about Godric himself. And since Harry plans to go there in Book 7 we're likely to find out more information. I thinkt that theres a small chance that Gryffindor has a chamber at Hogwarts. Although DD said that the only known artifact of Godric's was the sword, the teachers knew nothing of the Chamber of Secrets so whose to say DD is right?

I think that if Godric does have a secret chamber or another hidden artifact it will be enormously signifigant because wasn't Voldy intending to make something of Gryffindor's a Horcrux?

Its hard to say now, we'll have to wait for Book 7!
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