Well done.. its so true though!

and to be honest a Xbox game or playstation game will ahve more influence on your child then Harry Potter because 1. People know Harry Potter isn't real because it's magic and 2. because the stuff that you do on these games actually happens!

so i think parents should calm down a bit on Harry Potter seen as there is kissing in OotP yea it's milder but come on you see people kissing all the time in real life and if JKR didn't make them kiss then there wouldn't be anything for anyone to connect to anymore! it would be as popular because people will feel that the connection between themseleves and Harry Potter books had gone.. so i say let the kissingin and if you don't want to see it then don't go and see it! we all imagined it when we read the books and i bet it will be less gross on film then how some people think it's going to be!

This is probably the most random comment but i think that harry should kiss hagrid and hermione should kiss snape because it would be the wierdest thing you will ever see and possibly the most disturbing thing ever thought. i wish i wouldnt think things like that strangly enough

Uhhhh... I don't even know what to say about that but maybe i will say that i found it completly disturbing

well anyways let the Snogging BEGIN!!!!!!

Parents if you don't want your children to see 2 seconds of kissing just don't take them.

In like the fourth film, the director was saying that it was the film where they all grow up and become interested in the other sex and i agree, but the sixth film is where they really mature and it's all going on. I think that in the book there is a good mix of action and romance (if you could call Ron and Lavender romance lol) and i think that the directors aim will be to portray that on screen. There has to be a bit of kissing going on because Hary and Ginny is like a really major thing, and Ron has to kiss Lav a bit more because that's what the books about. I just hope the director gets the balance right so that we can see all of the Malfoy business but also, just to lighten the film a bit, some kissing and romance because let's face it, the book is pretty dark and it needs something to cheer it up a bit.

Rachel xxx

yep true and also one of the main themes in Hp is love and if you don't have love in the films then pretty much most of the book is cut out! love is there from the beginning love is what gave harry a chance, so why can't he show love to ginny? ron is new to all this so why can't he have a go and see what it's like... just because it's ron and lavender and everyone wants it to be ron and hermione Patience and they will come along, i bet when it's them kissing no one will mind a bit!

Completley agree with you there Lav, one of the main reasons people don;t want to see snogging in the films is because, as Lav said, they want to see Ron and Hermione kissing but it's only the sixth film...you never know what can happen in the seventh book lol
Personally i'd like to see all the 'romance' between 'Won-won' and Lavender because even though the film is still about magic and fictional things it (like aspects of all the other films) makes it relatable because well we've kind of grown up with the films and the books so just as Harry, Ron and Hermione have aged so have we, and albeit without magic, murder and whatnot, we have experienced similar things to what we have seen them go through, and well snogging is another one of those things we have all been through. I mean we all had to have a first kiss and as Ginny says 'practice' our techniques just as Ron had to
So yeah....Let the snogging begin!
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I hope there is snogging in the 6th movie, i mean it was important in the novel because it cause a seperation of hermione and ron. I think it'll help to make the ron/hermione relationship more complex!

yea true... it also causes conflict in the trio which is not good during this time seen as harry needs his best friends most at this point and having the conflict between hermione and ron is rital and challenging to the story and how harry reacts.

i agree with that, but i hope they dont over do it because most films that are based on a book and have this much kissing in could possibly over do it, lets just hope whoever directs the film is wise and puts the right amount in.


Also if there wasn't kissing it would just be the same in all the films, harry goes to hogwarts catches up with everything thats gone on, half way through the year gets a suspicious feeling about some one and then fights that person at the end, it would be the most boring film ever made, however, with kissing its like a whole new film, and its showing that the actors arn't actually the 10 and 11 year olds you saw in the first film and also its just a way of showing how they've all grown, because in each film they introduce somthing new, like in the fourth harry meets cho for the first time and you could say falls in love with her and then in the fifth they kiss and then in the 6th all the others are doing it. So i think the kissing should defo be included and any parent who doesnt want there child seeing it fair enough because some parents dont believe it should be done until a later age but what the parents have to remember is in the 6th film there all gonna be about 18 19 and maybe even 21 so there young adults and every young adult does it.

There's a whole new plot and everything though, and with all the things that have happened to sirius and stuff in the fifth film and DDs death i'm pretty sure the kissing will probably be the last thing on our minds when we go to watch it. i mean yeah you have a point it makes it different from the other films but there are a lot of things more important than it, though it would be a shame if it all got cut completely

yep i just find it so stupid that people are getting all hyped up abuot a few people kissing when there is violence and things in the film! i mean come on would you rather watch someone die, or someone kiss for a few seconds... it's not the whole film it's some of it and not even the main things so it won't be made the biggest! it will be in the film whether you like it or not because if the director is clever enough he will realise that is it important to the film because it shows LOVE, which is one of the BIGGEST themes in the serises! if you can't get that then to be honest you don't really get harry potter because it is said in every book, so happens that in this book we see a little love! all i say to that is grow up and be more mature about relationships! people kiss they are 17/18/19 for goodness sake if they weren't kissing i would be a little worried!

i agree with you lav and pottyhead, with the violence and the expectations of the death eaters doing therre thing ya no i think when we walk into the cinema it'll get to the first bit of kissing and we'll be like, i forgot about that because the kissing, yeah it sets a new scene and shows the characters are grown up but its just not very important.

And anyone who is like 'i cant wait to see harry and ginny' i in a way feel sorry for because its just wierd for someone to be waiting to see the kissing instead of the action and actual plot.

yea true and also it breaks up all the violence, i'm sorry but if it was just Harry and following malfoy and the horcuxes i would come out the cinema feeling sick, yeah it's a fantasy film, but with all the violence i would be very suprised if it didnt got boring! come on even horror films have kissing in!

The kissing does add comic releif to all the mystery, suspense and seriousness of the film so its good in that way but well i do think it is wayy more important for people to find out about LVs past and what DD has found out about him and the sick things Harry may have to do to eventually defeat LV.



To be quite honest i was so shock when JKR put that in the book, even with the not-so-subtle hints that she was giving us who ever could have thought Harry and Rons baby sister would be sucking face?!?! i don't actually want to much of it to be shown in the film though cause then you'll see the complete contrast between Harry nd Ginny and Ron and Lavender...the wayt hat Harry and Ginny are alot more affectionate and they genuinly like eachother. it would be nice to see that they actually do make out but to make it as short and sweet as it possibly can be without it being too kiddy so that we can get a sense of their relationship but then get on with action!!! =]

good phrase used there, i guess that is a good way of putting it though

you have to remember that at the end they do break up like every other couple and there is basically a lesson to be learnt sort of, its that sometimes you have to do things you dont want to, to protect the ones you love

which is what the books are abuot LOVE and without different types of relationships your missingout LOVE and without LOve DD will be disappoited i mean he is the one straving for more LOVE and he gave up is life for LOVE so with out LOVE there is on reason for DD to die! and seen as they are teenagers LOVE and interest in the opposite sex is natural and it would be sily if they were not in relationships! again i say get over it! i'm sorry but they are teenagers live with it, i bet you were doing it when you were their age!

The kissing is essentially and foremost JKRs way of just telling us 'THIS IS ABOUT LOVE!!!!' without having another lecture off DD (which we do end up getting later but never mind!)

but i agree with you Lav... LOVE!!!

HP IS ABOUT LOVE!!! and to leave out the kissing completley would be stupid because it is what HP is about!!!!!

hi5 PottyHead defiatly and seen as all differnt types of Love have been shown it would be an isault to cut an important from of LOVE! it shows the difference between harry and LV! without it they are so similar... with it... it's what changes everything!


(sorry had to be dramatic there!)

It's Harry Potter....what would anything to do with it be without drama =P!!



oh my gosh i know!!! The one thing JKs been trying to tell us for 10 years!!! they have to have it in the film other wise i shall call them all sillies. and to not show how even thoughthey are both so similar we'll finally see that Harry can love and LV cant!!

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yep they definatly have to have it! not to a gross extent, but to show that they are growing up and getting 'feelings' for each other! if they're not allowed to do it at the age of 16/17 what age can you start dating?

I know! It isn't like it doesn't go on in the real world anyway so why should they be any different? And being 16 or however old they are they really should have had a first kiss by now...and still being 16 for your first kiss in Rons case is leaving it a little late anyway

I don't want the whole film to be completley loaded with kissing and relationship stuff but they cannot just cut it out completley!

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I personally don't want to much snogging in the movies. I mean yeaaa, it will show how Ron and Lavender's relationship is nothing but emotionless physical contact, but I don't want the HP movies and books to turn into love sories( unless of course it's Hermione Ron love!), and anyways, they might make the rating go up which would majorly stink!

In theory though, the HP books are all centered around love as a main theme, Love is what will possibly overthrow LV, it has done so many times before, love is what LV cannot understand. It is such an integral theme to the books because of this, it is mentioned in almost every book that love is why Harry survived, and it is almost inevitable that love will be one of the, if not the most important theme in DH, as it is already the most obvious theme in the septology.

They can't completley cut out this kissing because this will emphasise the fact that the books revolve entirely around love

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The kissing and all the romance stuffs adds a bit of comedy, in a pretty action-packed book. These kids are 16/17 - it's all completely natural, and theres not actually that much of it. We'll probably just get a funny scene with Ron and Lavender - leading to a bit of Ron/Hermione banter. Then, of course, Harry and Ginny - which you simply can't leave out, and should be pretty powerful. I think it'll be handled allright, and just kind of break-up the darkness.

Heya

I don't think there is going to be that much snogging as in the book because there is so much other stuff that they need to include. And I hope they add a few snogging scenes that might show us the anger on Ron and Harry faces when they see Ginny and Dean doing it, but I agree they shouldn't over do it.

~dewet

i agree with everyone i mean i agree with dewet_pdw88 because they should show how harry began to like ginny .I wouln't like to see them over do it with the whole ron and lavender because that would take probably a big part of the movie,but since the book is short you will never know.Besides its not the same reading it than seing it
P.S if they add too much snogging my younger sister would not be able to see it.

I find it so interesting, the America mind set, that almost any violence is more child appropriate than sex. I saw a good number of rated R movies before I turned 17, a good number of them with sex and nudity and I am a well adjusted and mentally healthy young adult, who is not ashamed to admit that she's abstinent.
I'm sure that they'll keep all the kissing PG-13, Harry Potter's main market is 10-18; they'll make sure that all the people at that age will be able to see it.

im pretty sure that their is going to be some snogging between ron and lavender, though im not so sure about dean and ginny. for the lavender auditions i heard that rupert grint is going to be snogging the audition's to see their chemistry together.i dont think that they will for ginny and dean because he is about twice the size of her and that would look a little awkward.

There will definately be kissing, but not as much as in the books. A lot happened in HBP and a lot of details are going to have to be left out in order to make the movie 2 and 1/2 hours or so. The snogging isn't the most important thing in the book, so it'll probably be one of the things that are cut and shortened just to make the movie a decent length.

THey gotta have AT LEASTE harry and Ginnys first kiss
AND
Harry and Ron gotta walk in on the Ginny Dea kiss cuz thats when harry realizes hes in love with Ginny Even though he knew it from book 2 =)
So I think its ALL gotta be in there.

I think that they will have Harry and Ginny's first kiss because...well I just don't think it would be right to leave that out. I don't think that there will be as much snogging as in the books, because, as has been said before, they do need to focus on the main story line, but there will be some snogging. They're casting Lavender Brown, so I think it's most definate that there will be some snogging between her and Ron...they can't leave all that out because it kind of makes us really realise Ron and Hermione's relationship isn't just friendship (duh!) but yeah, there wont be as much as the book.

Either that or there'll be more... but that would like ruin the film because tehre are much more important thingslike the pensieve and learning about LVs past than Ron and Lavender getting it on

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lol yeah for sure, we dont need to see ALL of the kissing that Ron and Lazender do, just the main part where like Hermione walks in on it at the party and gets all mad! But the Harry and Ginny kiss's gotta be in there!

I think there should be some since we need to see Hermione get jealous of Ron and Lavendar. I also think we also need to see Harry get jealous of Ginny and Dean. But, I think the most important kiss the one between Harry and Ginny. I really don't think there needs to be as much as in the book, but some would be good. We need to see that there is still hope in love even though Voldemort and the death eaters are out there distroying the world.

personally there definalty needs to be some kissing in this book. they have al grown up and are now inbarking into relationships and in relationships people kiss. without it it wont really show the embarressment of everyone when Ron and Lavender kiss, the jealous of hermione, the anger of ron when he sees ginny and dean, the bitterness towards dean from harry and the whole sheer loveliness of harry and ginny! i think without it the film will just be dark with the whole malfoy thing the horcroxes (sp) and the cave and how DD dies. it just shows how even though all this bad stuff is happening good things can happen too.. i just think that it's needed especailly how DD is always trying to show how love is the greatest magic, he even tells voldermort that so he would make it even clearer when voldermort is at large wouldn't he?

It is inevitable that they will put in the making out but they are growing up and are nearly adults and this is what teenagers do! The kissing makes them in a way seem just like normal teenagers, and it can allow you to relate to them. I just hope that it is done in a tasteful way like Harry and Cho's kiss was and that they don't focus on it too much. like it has been said before: Harry Potter is not a romance novel. And what you have to keep in mind is that it is still essentially a children's story. It is aimed at children and although the later books are darker and more adult-oreintated, it is still a children's story so they wouldn't make too much fuss over the making out and make it too distasteful. Well you can only hope they dont.

i agree with you lauren0891. it is a childrens book so it shouldnt focus in on the making out too much. it does get darker through the series but i think thats cos the first book came out 10 years ago so i t hink jk rowling is focusing on the people who read it 10 years ago so as they get older they dont wanna read simple stories and it shows how the characters are maturing into teenagers and i agree, its what every teenager does *unless there hated by everyone but lets not think of that*

I am not very excited for the parts where Ron and Lavender are snogging, but I think it needs to be in the movie to show how Hermione gets jealous of him. In other words, I hope that its not in most of the movie. With Harry and Ginny's kiss, I hope its just simple, and not over the top, because the most important part of the book was Harry learning about Horcruxes, and learning how to defeat Voldemort.

I wish there was no snogging in the movie at all...............but hard luck on me..............Actually I think the whole idea of snogging wasn't good as these books & movies mainly for adolescents and you know how parents discourage us seeing or hearing about things like these...............especially Indians like me will face this even more as here kissing itself is considered to be really taboo............

I want snogging! It's just right. They're teenagers. Teenagers make out. It wouldn't be right to cut a crucial part of the teenage life.

Snogging is natural. It's supposed to happen in real life, so why not put it in a movie? I've seen tons of films with snoging in them. I think it adds some good feeling to a Harry Potter movie, what with all the darkness, and evil... And well said dp_feltonator! You said it right!

the snogging-part of the books are important, also when its on film. Because its part of the story, it explains why people act like they do.
also it also very important, cinematically, to show a more tender side to the characters.

Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix had a bit of kissing in it. Not just the Cho and Harry scene, but the two students who were kissing on the bench before Umbridge broke them up. Personally, I'm not that bothered by it. I think I'll be more bothered by that I'll be teased by my family since I like Rupert Grint so much.

The only thing I am concerned about is that they'll make it more comical than it is. In the book Ron and Lavender are going at it pretty good, but I hope they don't try to really dwell on it in the movie. Yes, it's mentioned now and then in the book (by Ginny, and then the whole talk with Harry and Ron at The Burrow), but they didn't see a large deal about it. I think it's important for it to be in the movie because it helps the developing relationships of everyone. Hermione gets super ticked off at Ron like he had done to her in fourth year, and Harry finds out that he actual likes Ginny- resulting in their own little scene that's not at all private. It really shows that these aren't just heroes- they're teens too! With real, teen problems (and more).

As far as the actors go, I think they'll need to get used to it... How weird is that going to be for Daniel and Bonnie?

I totally agree. It may be fictional but they are still teenagers and they are still growning up and experiencing new things. This is what the script writers and directors need to get their heads around.

Also it may be weird for the actors but if they are the brilliant actors i know they are they should be able to cope.

Yeah, it's like the whole thing with Harry and Cho in OotP. Sure, he's the boy-who-lived, but he's also a teenaged boy. Just see the scene after it in the Gryffindor Common Room- it takes you away from the wizard world for a minute.

Yeah, after a few bits of practice.

I totally agree with all you guys the snogging is a big part in the book. Also they are growing up so they are expected to have feelings for each other. Im pretty sure that the actors will find it quite funny but will also get the job done. They are great actors and they wont let us down now! Directors need so see that they are also teens growing up I hope they leave it in da movie.!

the book main theme is:

-Voldy History
-Relationship
-The potion book and Snape
-Malfoy up to no good

so the relationship would probably be in there, as long as the other theme did not take the time.

Yeah, i agree with MissRandom about how the characters are normal teens as well and they're in a critical time of their lifes..so they better keep at least a few of the kissing scenes! these scenes are really important in showing changes growth in different relationships and if they don't want to be stuck in making the 7th movie script, then they should keep a lot of the original scenes.
its cool to read about the characters issues and problems that most readers can relate to, and it gives the feeling that yes, they truly are teenagers

I agree with you starlight. There probably won't be as much snogging in the movies as there was in the book because it would really be stupid and look overdone. They should include some to show that harry, ron and hermione are growing up. I hope they do include some snogging to portray the emotions of a 16-17 year old. They are becoming adults. if you think snogging is gross and think they shouldnt include it you are obviously immature.

I really dont think the snogging will be a problem..actually to me it will be slightly comical, i think they might portrait it like that in the movie, but hermione's reaction wont be so comical...i cant wait to see the birds attacking ron!!
but i can totally imagine how whenever harry is talking to someone, like ginny or any of his fellow gryffindors you will be able to see ron and lavender snogging in the background. i think it'll be quite funny.
but i also think that, no matter how little emotion is put in the relationship, that the pairing between Ron and Lavender was definitely important. Ron is now worthy for Hermione...he just needed to get back to being her friend, and who thought that a little poisoning will do the job??
but seriously, i think it'll lighten the mood of what will be a pretty dark movie. it's kind of an emotional relief that, like people said, teens, no matter how famous and powerful and influential to the wizarding society they are, will be teens

There was a bit of snogging in the book, but their needs to be so that when they make the movie, so it isnt just duels and talking about whats out there and learning how to apparate. They need to put it in the movie so that they can show that they have feelings for other people of the opposite gender. The snogging IMO needs to be in their.