We all know that there was a good bit of snogging in the 6th book. So do you think that there will be as much snogging in the movies as there is in the books? And if so, what do you think about it being portrayed on screen?

Personally, I think a little snogging would be good, but perhaps not as much as the books have it. Because sometimes iit can come off as "overdone" on screen.

Good point starlight. I was actually highly disturbed to read about Ron and Lavender exchanging tongues in HBP. I really hated Ron when reading that because he was only thinking of himself and Lavender's saliva....eeuggh.

It's a tough call.

They are 16 or 17 years of age by this book, and I guess it's pretty normal to make out at that age. I think by being so descriptive of Ron & Lavender's making out, Jo was pointing out how truly superficial their relationship was.

I think it's interesting how the only kissing scenes Jo writes about in a sort of graphic way are the least important ones. When it comes to Harry & Ginny, or Ron & Hermione, it's a really small part of the story--almost as if Jo "respects" these relationships more, and affords them more privacy.

If that's the case, then we probably won't "see" many romantic scenes in book Seven--it'll be more of an implied thing, like in book Six when Harry remembered a special hour with Ginny down by the lake. She leaves it to out imaginations what really went on down there, his true remembrances aren't made known to us.

MayIHaveYourChocolateFrogs,

Good points. You're right that she was only graphically descriptive of the least important making out sessions.

And yes, I think the reason she did describe them was because Ron was only with Lavender to gain some experience and annoy Hermione.

As for what they include in the movie, I think it's pretty safe we will definitely see some Won-Won & Lavender snogging because it is a big part in the book, but not all of the parts that show up in the book.

They'll chop it down to probably two snogging sessions, but I'm sure the very first one that Hermione sees where their hands are all over each other, wil probably be there.

I am very curious to see how she handles the romantic situations between Harry & Ginny and Ron & Hermione in Book 7. It could be that she leaves pretty much all of it to the imagination, as she has so far with Harry & Ginny, or that it's a bit more adult. Considering how the characters are growing up, and that each book has been more mature than the last, that wouldn't surprise me either.

I don't mean full on sex here, I just mean the descriptions of intimate moments would be more like romantic kissing and not meaningless snogging, though she would describe it and not leave so much to the imagination.

It's also interesting that Harry & Ginny are together so little in Book 6. Maybe that's another reason why she didn't show more of their...intimate moments. Maybe that is to come towards the end of Book 7.

Just....agh...that would be so hard for me.

Rupert's ALWAYs been my favorite, (actually, I'm warming up to Dan, but I've always liked Rupert). Ron has also always been my favorite, so I guess you guys can understand watching him doing something so completely stupid bothered me more then anything in the entire Harry Potter series. (Took me a loooong time to get used to it. You can read my initial reaction in the thread in the HBP forum. It pretty much ruined the entire book.)

I also loved him best when he was younger. So it'll be very strange watching "little Rupert" (as I like to imagine him) starting eating Lavenders face. I don't really want him to get older, and change the way he looks. It'll be too weird.

Second, I just don't see Rupert Grint in a makeout scene. It's WAAAAY too weird. I can see it happening with Dan, or Emma, or Bonnie or whatever, but it's very strange with him. Finally, I can't see Rupert being comfortable doing this. I can't see him with his face all over someone like I've seen kids at school. Wouldn't it be awkward?

So yeah, pretty hard for me. Dan and Bonnie I won't mind. Rupert and Lavender would definitly bother me.

As a last note, guys try to keep on topic here. This is a place to talking about snogging in the last movie, not r/hr's relationship in the seventh book. I think pigwithhair knows where that forum is.

i think the snogging is funny. i hope they leave it in the movi,. but if they dont i wont be upset.

At first, the idea of seeing it on screen repulsed me. It's kind of strange imagining these people kissing. But for the sixth years, snogging is sort of a normal thing, isn't it? After thinking about it, I guess it would be funny seeing Rupert trying to "perfect his technique" with whoever plays Lavender. This should be interesting!

Sorry, Kipsy, the digression was mine. I didn't even think about what section I was in when I made my post.

Personally, I think Rupert was probably appalled by what he might be expected to do in the film for HBP. I remember some interview he gave where he said he was in no rush for any of that--that he was even embarrassed to have Emma holding his hand in the Hippogriff scene from PoA.

Still, it'll be a few years before they film that movie, maybe he'll grow a little older, and have some time to get used to the idea, and so will all of us.

To me, all the snogging and relationships in the book was 'off topic' so to say. Harry Potter is a fiction series not a romance novel. When they make the movie, I believe that this would be an easy part to cut out to save time. Maybe add like a few moments of it but not into detail like JK did.

It wasn't really a big part in the book, so it shouldn't be a big part in the movie. The only reason, to me it seemed like, was to put Ron and Hermione together. If I was directing it, I would just add the beginning of the Ron/Lavender relationship and then Ron saying that she is getting annoying. Its short, sweet, and strait to the point. (not to mention it leaves the romance out of a fantasy series)

argh...the snogging

I hated all the Ron/Levander stuff in the book. Ron was totally out of his character. I dont want to watch it on big screen. But im afraid i will have to. WB wont cut the snogging part out. After all, thats what people (i mean the ordinary teenagers, non-HP fans) want. Harry Potter and his Co. snogging througout the whole movie.

I really don't mind all the snogging...c'mon their teenagers now and it would be completely abnormal if thy didn't! hehe.. I know alot of ppl don't wanna see Ron and Lavender kiss but i really want to see that only because I really wanna see Hermione jealous. I just love Ron and Hermoine's relationship even though they have a love-hate relationship...It's almost funny!...and i don't mid seeing Harry kissing...I think it's like a whole new step for him or something!

The snogging personally I have nothing against it but I just wanted to point out before people start slating Ron if you remember GOF when (Hermione was dating Krum) she told Harry that Krum was more of a "physical being" so just because JK hasn't described it before doesn’t mean it hasn't been going on.

I hate to break it to you all who think that the snogging will be cut, will probaly be mistaken. Harry Potter is more than anything a coming of age story with a mythical would created as it's back drop. HBP is a very character centered book, the common thread that pumps the plot (Voldermort) isn't present. But the feelings and motives that come from him are there. Ron and Lavender where imporant to developement of Ron and Hermione just as Victor and Hermione was imporant. Interesting how the V/Hr realtionship is what the boat going for R/Hr and L/R docked it in it's habor. I think it will be what kind of kisses that will be exchanged in between the characters. Ron and Lavender will be sloppy and hermonal. Harry and Ginny will have, in a word, passion. They have the pain, the constant worry that this will be their last kiss, last moment. Ron and Hermione I think will be sweet and have a kind of innocence to it at first.
Kipsy, Rupert is 17, will be 18 and then and adult. People grow up.

*whew* back after a loooooooongg time!! good to be back, really!!

moving onto the topic, according to some people i know, there was too much snogging in the sixth book...but i think, like most of you, that it was just right...they're sixteen and right at the edge of being 'of age' in the wizarding world and the little flightless baby birds have developed wings and are learning to fly...so i guess by the next book the basic romantic sequences will be much more mature...

As people have said before, the Ron/Lavender thing REALLY bothered me, especially because Ron had said he was going with Hermione to Sluggy's Christmas party. grr... I'm a huge R/Hr shipper. But anyway, when did they ever say anything about Ron and Lavender french-kissing? I never caught that. I'm just hoping that, if it doesn't make much of a difference in the 7th book, that at the end of HBP movie, Ron and Hermione will kiss instead of hug, but that's just me.

i think the snogging was just normal, i hope it'll be not cut. they are growing up and i think it'll be cute if there will be like that. bout' harry and ginny was okay. but with ron and lavender not fine, ron always do stuffs really unpredicatble....but these two are better than to see malfoy snogging pansy, that might hurt a lot.

Ah, interesting topic, all though I hadn't really seen if before.. Anyways, here is my input.. I didn't like the snogging, it just seemed so.. I dunno, I just didn't like it. I didn't like the WonWon/LavLav thing, the Hermione/Cormac, or the Harry and Ginny thing that was going on... In my opinion, it wasn't very relavant to the book, just the relationship issues taken to the extreme. But like people here have stated, I too think that WB will include it, even if it is just a short glimpse. What I don't agree with, is that they will only show one out of the three snogging fiestas, if they are going to show anything, they will probably show everything.

Most people don't want to see the R/Lav thing, and yet they want to see H/G because it corresponds to their ships. Unfortunately, alot of people snogged in this book, and I believe WB is either going to include everything, or nothing

-Dominique

I love it It helps us see the more realistic side of them which is that they're normal teenagers. Most teenagers have had their first kiss by 15 or 16 so it's only right that they put it in the books and movies. I know I don't see the movies just for the fight scenes

I loved it as well. That's what teenagers do...and, frankly, those of us who are teenagers no longer as well. A little snogging here and there... (well, I'm boring and married but anyway - )

Frankly, I agree with JKR that it just would have not been right if Harry's first kiss had been with Ginny or if Ron's had been with Hermione.

They (the four of them) each needed to spread their wings a bit to be able to know what they really want.

I am very much looking foward to Harry & Ginny moments and Ron & Hermione (FINALLY) moments in Book 7.

And, no, I didn't think there was too much snogging in Book 6. The book was about the lives of a teenager with friends who are his age. It would have been weird if their normal development, curiosity and love were not included.

I liked it too. We(some of us) are teenagers already. We sometimes experience these kinds of things. Our hormones is responsible for that. Anyway, It helps us, readers, to at least understand how the characters feel, how the characters fell in love with each other. And how do they cope with first love. Just like the things that we encounter everyday. As some people think its offensive or rather "dirty", well I think its a matter of how you see the situation.

I agree with kipsy. It makes sense to leave it out because 1) it's not an important scene and it won't really affect the story too much and 2) waste of film. But knowing these film makers, and what they did with both PoA and GoF, they'll be having Ron and Lavender snog in the middle of corridors or classes and stuff. It'll be way overdone.

Like in PoA, they added a ton of stuff between Ron and Hermione that was both unnecessary and it wasn't even in the book. So imagine what they'll do with this. I think they should have at least a hint of jealousy between ROn and Hermione, but I really do hope it doesn't take over the entire film. It would be like, "Get a room."

a bit of tounges is good in a film

most people are mature enough to handle it

I really, really didn't like all the snogging. I probably wouldn't mind if there was a quick kiss here and there, but the book seemed waaay to caught up in the romance. I would've expected them to act like goofy lovers at 14 or 15. But come on. They're nearing adult hood, and they're living at a time which everything should be taken seriously because of Voldemort. I'm not saying that they can't have fun or anything, and I don't mind reading that they actually kiss (I've read books with a lot more graphics) it'd just be better than most of the time, they didn't worry about who was going to snog who...

Lol, now I sound way to strict here. I'm 13, so I can't really say what the appropriate age for snogging is, since I've never done it. Of course, I feel mature enough. Basically what I'm trying to say, is that the book shouldn't have said that they were snogging, but it's alright if they did. Well, that just went against everything I put in my first paragraph, now did it?

All the snogging in the book was meaningless and it made me a little jealous for som reason you just can't imagine dan really doing that

hmm... snogging.. haha Rupert won't like that.. didn't he say that he didn't like holding hands with Emma in PoA? "I'm not looking forward to play romantic scenes {with Emma}
haha and now he has to kiss someone he hardly knows.. he's love that.
as for me, I'd love to see Ron making a fool of himself. I think it's really adding something to the R/Hr tension thing. they couldn't cut Won Won and Lav-LAv.

I see nothing wrong with the kissing scenes that will no doubt happen in film 6 since JKR wrote them in HBP. They're teens after all. Besides, HBP is riddled with love potions and out of control teen hormones. How can the 6th movie NOT include snogging?! Before book 6 we have Harry as having kissed Cho, and it wasn't one of those passionate kisses that can lead to foreplay. Hermione also had a similar kiss with Krum. But, in HBP, we find out that Ginny, who incidentally is the youngest of them all, is the most experienced. She's had at least two boyfriends (before Harry) that she has sucked face with. And, if I'm not mistaken, she was really snogging Dean's socks off in the HBP scene where Ron and Harry see them in the corrider. This gal has been around the block a couple of times! When JKR changed Ginny's personality from a shy, quiet little girl, she changed it big time!

They cut out the least important points of the book. They cut out peeves because he wasent needed. I dont thing that snogging is an essential to the movie so it will most likely be cut.

I only hope they put in the snogging if I get a large drink...that'll give me the opportunity to go to the rest room and not miss a stinkin thing.

I understand showing some snogging and having some in the book...but my Lord, it took up 2/3'rds.

You can show them growing up without 12 hours of tonsil hockey...

But, back to topic. I hope they don't have all of the snogging. They have been lately saying that they want to focus on the most important part of the movie...which is Harry...so hopefully, for movie 6, they'll stick to that.

i dont really know, they will definately show some in the movie. the won won thing will definately stay, theyll use that whole relationship as a comedy moment (especialy with hermione and the flying birds ). and i think they have to have ron and lavener because you would have to show the whole thing with hermione being all jelouse. but the snogging, not so much, a litttle here and there but not as prominant as in the book. but if i know WB they'll play of the snogging and relationships big time.

I think that as unimportant as the scene may be, they're going to include it and they're going to overdo it. They would never pass up a chance to have a character snogging someone. Honestly, look at PoA. All that stuff never happened in the book, yet they added it!

I swear they'll do the same in OotP. Under the mistletoe, they're going to have them snogging the lips off of each other.

They can handle the snogging discretely - I mean, they're not going to have close-ups of the actors tongues or anything. But I have to say, I saw Bonnie Wright on the TV here in the US recently and, although she is only 14 now, Dan Radcliffe is a lucky guy to get to snog Ms. Wright - she is beginning to look like quite a fetching young woman.

When reading HBP again, I have come up with something like this for the bird scene:
Ginny: Looking for Ron? He's over there.
Harry looks and sees Ron kissing Lavendar.
Still looking at Ron, Ginny: Looks like he's eatin gher face doesn't it? Hermione comes up behind them, shreiks, and runs out through portrait hole.
running after her, Harry: Harmione, wait!
Follows her into classroom. Has conjured birds.
Hermione: Ron seems to be enjoying himself.
Harry: Does he?
voice rising Hermione: Don't pretend you didn't see. Wasn't really hiding was-
Ron and Lavener come in laughing.
Lavender giggles and prances out.
hands in pockets, Ron: Uhhhh, hi
Hermione: Shouldn't leave Lavenderwaiting should you.\
turning around, Ron: Yeah
Hermione: OPPUNGO!
Ron: aghhhhhhhhhhh get off!
Hermione runs away, crying.
Is it terrible?

I think they should make it into parts, every chapter is important!
All i'm saying is whoever is to play Lavender is one lucky person!

priori_incantatem, very funny! Was it suppose to be funny?

We all know Hermione and Ron will end up together, so i think they need to show the tension there and the jealousy.

I'm sure that there will be some snogging, mainly kissing in Harry's case. It would be annoying if they cut out all the good scenes.

I think that they will include some of the snogging, but not all of it. It does play an important part in the story. I think that they will put in just enough to stick to the story, but they won't over do it. I'll just say this this, Bonnie is very lucky.

i think it wud be a bit silly if they didn't include it and ye it's perfectly normal any way so i dont see why they wudn't include it


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I think that they will at least have some of the snogging in the movie. H/G definatly, R/L probably. They wont have it as much as in the book though. Its quite important to the characters and its part of most teenagers lives. Personally, I don't like the whole R/L thing, I'm more for R/Hr but it's whats in the book that counts so...

I hope they have some in but i also hope it wont be to graphic like close ups and things yuck. It depends with what they do in the 5th film too. If don' t show the kiss between Harry and Cho they wont do the snogging in the HBP.

I dunno, I think the snogging shows how they feel about each other. I believe that a kiss says something words can't, you know? And I don't think that there was too much in the sixth book. I mean, the Won-Won/Lav-Lav thing had to have loads of snogging, to show how stupid and repulsive and physically-based their relationship was, and how Ron never really cared for Lavender except as a thing who can kiss. And the whole Ginny/Dean thing had to happen, to show how jealous Harry was. Besides that, I don't remember much more snogging, though I do wish Ron/Hermione and/or Remus/Tonks had snogged a bit...
And it'll be cute to see Rupe and Emma kiss, and to see Dan and Bonnie kiss.
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the two people i want to see snog the most; are emma and rupert. it will be so good to finally see hermione and ron going out and using abit of tongue. i wanted this to happen in book six so i could see it in the movie but i hope it does happen in the movie at the end. or atleast movie seven. please. harry and ginny will be interesting too.

I like the thought of the kisses it might be because im a girl but i think it will give the film a more this could happend now or later and cause theyre growing up it shows that they have feelings towards each other

where i live we have no idea what snoging is i think it is makingout here or just a disgusting way of kissing someone correct me

it would be weird...but they should keep it in the movie I really wanted ron to get with hermione but thats not gonna happen!!

Yep, Woody, it's making out. As for what I think - I don't mind the snogging. I think it could make the chemistry between the characters a really cool bit in the movie, but it should be well scripted and well directed.

It's all about keeping the tension between the couples-to-be. If Harry and Ginny's kiss is done in a sweet and sexy way it'd be great. Ron and Lavender have to be there, but just one scene because the real tension is being created between him and Hermione.

I actually look forward to the promotional interviews and news of the build-up of this movie and to hear what the actor's have to say to it!