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hermionegranger88
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it was certainly too short for my liking but a great movie..i totally agree w, what emma n dan said-that it balanced teh humour n the dark parts v well..
the acting was good.poor for ron n d indian girls-but great for emma,dan,ralph fiennes,miranda richardson.

they cut way too much fr the book though-more harry hermione scenes needed-more on qudditch too pl..
this book n ootp is supp to be loaded w. harry hermione scenes-n how well they work tog. to solve a prob
not much abt the ron hermione scene-emma n rupert just dun have d chemistry tog. on screen.many ppl non hp fans were heard saying is harry n hermione a couple?
dan n emma certainly have great chemistry on screen n off..
in the books-i dun think hermione has chemistry w. anyone.certainly not krum.

but stan was sure d right krum/so was pattinson as diggory.
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QUOTE (Mrs_Skywalker @ Dec 23 2005 @ 12:53 PM)

Hmmm I finally saw it this week and here's what I thought of it:

Special efects:
Everybody was going on and on on how good the special effects were. I really did expect a lot of it, but unfortunetely I was disappointed. In the second task you could clearly see that they used poppets for hermione, ron, cho and gabrielle. The mermaids looked soo fake, I almost cried. So did the sharkhead on Krum.


Acting:
Emma watson can't act! She really needs to take some acting lessons, because her brow -thingy and fakeness is getting annoying. I really don't get why people think she's too beautiful to play hermione, they should have made her more pretty! My brother said she's ugly, that was kind of harsh. Daniel on the other hand wasn't bad at all! That as a nice surprise, athough the crying scene was a bit fake. But he makes a good harry, bummer that he's so short but the lad can't help it. Rupert was ok. Not very good, but not very bad either.


The story:
It was a bit too rushed, but it wasn't bad at all. Although I must say that I had to explain everyting to my friend because she hadn't read the books. About the rushing thing: they could have changed it by concentrating on important scenes and shortening unimportant scenes.I mean, come on the yule ball lasted like 10 seconds! 



emma is d single most brillant young talent thr in tht movie!i think her acting n dan's far surpasses any others..ron was just not good..but funny troughtout..
emma is well known for all her acting skills-read reviews pls n ppl's comments-ppl r not blind-she's a **** good actress..
n hermione had not many scenes-so emma had to make an impact whn n whr she could as hermione-v. difficult..

movie is too short too explore emotions-d ron/hermione scene was just too short-one min. they're arguing next she sends them off to bed!whr d tht come fr??

dan n emma had great chemistry onscreen in wht little scenes tog. much much more thn ruprt n her..i thought so..

emma has managed to make hermione a multidimensional person-not just a bookworm,look at the aciting in d yule ball,she blows u away,

QUOTE (hermioneKJ @ Nov 18 2005 @ 07:44 AM)

I went to the midnight showing and although it was a very good movie, it wasn't so good in relation to the book. It wasn't that I didn't like the film, but when you are such a big fan of the books and especially when you JUST finished re-reading GOF about an hour before the film started (haha) all the stuff from the book is fresh in your mind and of course you are comparing the two!

(Spoilers below)

The bad things - The movie is basically entirely based on the tournament so a lot of the subplots (SPEW, Hagrid/Madame Maxine's giant/giantess storyline, all the stuff w/ Percy, and I'm probably forgetting some more) are completely left out. I understand it's a long book, but they could have fit some more in there - it's about 2.5 hours I believe...I guess they wanted to keep it under 3 hrs? The absence of Winky, Dobby, Percy, Bagman etc. messed up the story....I guess I could see leaving out Ludo Bagman b/c he didnt play that important of a role, but Winky especially was VERY important in the 4th book! Leaving Winky out completely changed the story...and I was also very looking forward to seeing the Hogwarts kitchen and all the house elves, and of course Winky drunk from butterbeer! As soon as I saw Barty Crouch Jr in the beginning of the movie I was really annoyed -- in the book that was the biggest surprise that it was actually Barty disguised as Mad Eye. The absence of Sirius was disappointing, the only time you see him is in the fire. My friends and I were also saying that we liked the old Dumbledore a lot better...Dumbledore in this film is kind of a bumbling idiot.

The good things - The special effects, scenery and everything were great. I liked the way they portrayed the tasks, although they did change them a little bit, but all in all, they did a good job with that part. The Yule ball was one of the best parts of the film! I loved seeing Fred and George have a bigger role in this film, they were hilarious and so was Ron!!! Also, Neville played a bigger part which was nice. All in all, the film was very funny...esp the part with Malfoy and the ferret...heehee   I liked the portrayal of Rita Skeeter too, just like I imagined her being. (But they left out the fact that she's an unregistered animagus!)

By the way, what part was JKR in? I missed that one!!



yes,
i had to tell d non gof frens of mine-whr goes whr n what goes whr n who goes whr..
honestly-they didn't care to explain why hermione woke harry n ron,blimey!tht was funny!
then left them clueless to the quidditch world cup..in just 4 mins..
i felt sad 4 those who didn't read d book!
also,wht abt spew?it's so morally impt.
n hermione teaching harry 'accio'-coz shows how powerful she is n tht she;s harry's fren n ally-sets d tone 4 ootp.
sirius??gosh-wht abt ron n hermione also supp. to be sitting w. him-saw tht pic but tht scene cut out fr movie. n hermione sitting on d edge of d chair n discussing w. harry egg clue?why film then simply cut so much!!

gosh-frustrating!can't they make it as long as narnia-though it was one hell boring movie,tht one.

pls add more hermione n ron ok-there's so little-yet their d main cast.-more cedric n krum n fleur then d main cast!!

i thought it was great but certainly lacked d sweeping or emotional content to it..it was choppy n not smooth..
but i knew wht a task newell had to film this giant book. i think that newell did try to fit in wht he could without leaving d major major scenes out..so d result-a run thru every task n boom-lord voldie is reborn..

so,we have a 2hr 30 min show n hardly any room for d yule ball-which is way too short 4 my liking-no spark in d harry/cho scene-hermione n krum had better luck..

not much chemistry 4 d yule ball scene-but harry was funny--'rotten pumpkin head-i dun think it was d books tht had him gone to d lib for..'

gosh-the trio certainly had brillant working persona,i thought they all were superb in tht emotional scene-but emma was d best!she had d hardest scene to do n she aced it!

i was really sorry 4 hermione who's fairy tale dream w. krum was dashed to pieces by the rude awakening of ron's unspeakable jealousy...
blimey-dan was r. good when he put an awed n wonderous look at hermione desceding fr d stairs..i could almost laugh

but-when emma walked down tht staris as hermione in tht gown-i was stuck to my chair n spellbound..she was magnificent-every bit d transformed as i imagine hermione to be fr d books..


i knew whn i saw d trailer tht hermione descending down d stairs would be very breathtaking-it truly was..emma did w onderful job when she gazed at harry then krum as she walked down-does anyone think emma did good too- in tht scene!!

do give me your thoughts??i knew it was one v. diff. scene as she was d center of attention n one slip would sprain her ankle etc..

but she did it marvellously well.

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james pickles
i thought GoF was very good. sometime it annoyed me like the leaving tiny things out but on the whole i thought it was very good. and so funny, for eg:

when hermione woke harry and ron up and ron was really embaressed and i thought that was really funny.

and harry in the bath was myrtle was hillarious.

they didnt show the quidditch world cup or anything and that so annoyed me, they didnt show how it was played or anything.

and they didnt have a ludo bagman or have a winky so we didnt get a spew moment or anything with ludo bagman. plus it didnt show hermione finding out that that rita was an unregistered animagus and that annoyed me

the graveyard scene was the best scene and i loved every moment of it.
Aphrodite
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marire
I finally saw the movie!! And I was really lucky: it had allready been sold out, but when I went to complaining to ticket saler that they hadn't ansered the phone when I had tried to charge the ticket, they gave me extra seat! It was in second row and in the end my eyes were compleatly dry, but it was worth it!
The movie was better than I expected. It had still lot of lackings,but theyre deffinetly going to right direction. I liked the fact that Fred and George were lot more visiable that early movies, and they were quite the like in book. I was also happy that they showed Ginny and Neville more, because both are important in future. I also liked the fact that there were some dialog in earlyer books, although maybe not in same connection.
Bigest lack was the fact that there were huge cuts and exceptions from book plot. What disturped me the most, was the fact there weren't any sideplots. There was only about Triwizard tournament and Voldemort but nothing else. It would have brigtened up the film a little. I was starting to get little borred in second task but luckly end was swift and it a saved a little.
It was also very disturbing that many scenes were cut as short as it was possible.I was especially angry that almost the whole World cup was left away. I would have really wanted to see the game in movie 'cause it sounded so amazingly and I'm sure it would have made great scene. But the biggest and maybe the stupidest cut was made in the end. I was furios when I realised they didn't show Fudges reaction to Voldemorts return. The main idea in OotP is that Ministry of magic denys Voldys return and I don't understand how they are going to maintain the theame when they haven't even explained it!
What comes to acting, I think the gang improved a lot. But I have to say I hated the part when Harry cries. It sounded so theatrical, and although it was a very sad scene, I had troubles to hold my laugh! Dann really has to improve that a lot!!
Mini Potter
In my opinion the movie was amazing, but there were some wrong things ex:in the begining when dumbledore says that only one will survive they all did except for one.
sandyseamus
I would like to say i really enjoyed the movie and i saw nothing wrong with gambons portrayel as dumbledore, however there are a few things i'd like to point out

Good stuff:

1. More Neville i hope they don't ignore Neville's suffering in the 5th book and cut out Neville's 'part' in the prophecy.
2. More Twins and they didn't seem 2D anymore woo!
3. 2nd task
4. Yule Ball
5. Malfoy the ferret
6. The 'happy' tear jerker when Harry's parents stood beside him

Nitpicks:

1. Molly were art thou? I was very disapointed, what happened to the final chapters in the infirmiry with Molly, Sirius, Fudge, Snape etc, that was one of the most important chapters of the books and the springboard for the next book/movie
2. The Maze: Could have been a bit longer i was looking forward to Harry facing the Sphinx, there was no explanation why Krum was demented in the maze,
3. First task - was a tad to long, the huge chase around the grounds was not all necessary, and could have been half the time, leaving more time for more pivotal scenes
4. Where was Winky, Dobby, Bill, Charlie, Pigwidgeon, sprout, Lavender, Cedric's mother cameo?
5. More dialogue from Krum - was he supposed to be mute?
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I saw the film on opening day and began hating it 20 minutes into the film. It had none of the same energy as the first three and like many here are saying, they cut out many important/good bits.

One of the worst things to be cut out (in my opinion) was the scene at the end where Black and Snape are forced to shake hands and Snape is sent off by Dumbledore to do what he knows he must. I think this is a very crucial scene considering what happens in HBP.

I thought I would be the only one hating this film because everywhere I went (on the net) every site was singing its praise. One website even went as far as to say that Steven Kloves did an excellent job of transferring the book to the screen. huh.gif So I was surprised to come in here and find that many fans were disappointed.

The person who I think is to blame is Mike Newell. Just because you’ve got a great franchise, good actors, fantastic special effects and a detailed plot doesn’t mean you can just put shots together anyway you want. It just seemed like Newell felt that because of all he had access to, it would be hard to make a bad movie. Well he was wrong.

And even though Emma is very pretty and I’m sure talented in many ways, she can’t act to save her life. Sorry.
dav
I, along with many other of my fellow hp fans, was very disapointed with the film too. if they put the sphinx in the maze i think that i would have been a little more impressive. Also, in the maze, if they showed how krum got possesed it would have been better.
And the 1st task was waay to long. Harry, flying around the castle was a complete waste of time, in my opinion.
all together it was an alright movie. but there was lots of things that they missed! sad.gif mad.gif
tomz_girl
I saw this movie quite a while ago and can't remember some parts of it but I know that it was a great movie. I was really impressed with it, but I agree with what others have said. Some really good parts were cut, I would have LOVED to see The Weasleys coming through the fireplace and Draco's mother. I expected to see more of the Quidditch world cup match aswell. I really liked the scene where the Death Eaters destroyed the campsite, that was cool and the Death Eater outfits, awesome. Overall a pretty good movie. 6.5/10. biggrin.gif
ApriLMayJune
Ok so I know they cut out A LOT! I mean TONS AND TONS of stuff! LMAO! But I couldn't help fall in love with that movie!! I LOVED GoF!! I freakin saw it FOUR times! Wooo! And I have never seen a movie that many times when it was in theateres! LMAO! ANYWHOO! I loved it! biggrin.gif It had so much more comedy in it! And I loved that! And I loved how the showed Fred and George more! Ohh! The Yule Ball was awesome, even if Hermiones dress was pink! rolleyes.gif Gahh! My favorite task was the 1st one!

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BUT......

I did not like the 3rd task aka the Maze! OH MY GAWD!!! I was like "THIS SUCKS!!" Seriously...I was looking forward to him battling all those different creatures and spells! Grrr! Ohh!!! AND I HATED How they made Harry seem like he didn't know many spells! Like ugh! Its like all he knew was "Expelliarmus"! WTF MAN? NOO! I mean he did use other ones! But the main one was that one! Ugh! Ohh! I didn't like how Dumbledore was much more unkind cuz Dumbledore is really supposed to be one of those kind guys, right? He's the one whoes supposed to be polite always, no matter the situation! Ugh! And they made him so much more intense! I just didn't like it......

I also didn't like how they cut down Rita Skeeter's part down!! She didn't seem as evil as she did in the book! Cuz when I read GoF I hated Rita! It was WHACK man! LoL!

Ohh! I also didn't like how it was Neville who gave Harry the gillyweed! I was looking forward to seeing Dobby and Winky! Argh! And I didn't like how they cut out Hermione's S.P.E.W.! Oh and the whole ton-tongue-toffee with Dudley! LMAO! I was looking forward to seeing Dudley tortured! LoL!

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Other then those things! I LOVED THAT MOVIE OH SO VERY MUCH!! And I can't wait to get the DVD! biggrin.gif
DA Leader
I thought GoF was the worst HP film. The tempo was fast and they left out tons of info and scenes. The worst part was they left out S.P.E.W. If you haven't read the book you will probable love it. I will say the graphics were awesome.
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darla_daniel
i thought it wa spretty good considering they had to make it under 3 hours.. =] although, i would have watched it anyway even if it went for 5 hours! =D the actors were a lot better in this film.. i am especially referring to the graveyard scene.. what a tear-jerker! =[ i thought krum was well casted and cedric.. hoo boy.. he was great! =] even if we won't be seeing him again.. hermione was a lot better but i just noticed.. was it just me or did she have a bad case of PMS? LOL nahh.. jokes.. it was just that.. she was a bit too sensitive i guess.. but i can kinda understand her.. being put in that situation with ron at the yule ball.. "fraternising with the enemy.". .. that was priceless.. she was stunning at the yule ball.. i especially loved her dress and how she entered.. like a fairytale sorta thing.. i thought cho was pretty good too.. katie leung did have a very thick scottish accent though and it did show when she and harry were talking.. overall, i thought the movie was hilarious when it wants to be and sad when the need arises.. eg.. i started laughing so hard when harry spat out his drink when cho was looking.. and the twins! OH the twins.. they were excellent! i love them! they were hilarious!! =] soo yeah.. i thought out of all four, this one if the best so far! =]

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Mrs. Radcliffe
Couldn't have said it better myself darla_daniel! tongue.gif

I have always thought that Emma was the best actress of everyone. *Big Emma fan* as you all can notice. But seriously y'all don't ya think she is great? And she definetly has a great career ahead of her. I still think she stands out above the rest with her great acting abilities.
RavenMist
I just adored this movie, i do not care what ever anyone else says. Probably one of my most favorie little bits was the portkey, it was just amazing, i want to go back and see it again, it was brilliant. I really loved the 1st task, i read the books obviously but i honestly thought Harry was NOT going to come back.
wishmaster
I definitely thought it was the best of the 4. I didnt have high expectations for this movie after Prisoner of Azkaban, but it completely blew me away. It was absolutely brilliant. I've seen it three times, and cant wait for it to come out on DVD.
HarryandGinny4ever
I loved the Movie but I still would prefer the book better. It was good.
Zahida
Gavr1
Hi all!I am from Bulgaria-Krum's country!I think the film is The best of all films about HP!I am watching the film everyday!It's so good!
sexy-lass
Omg, I have final watch Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. You probably wondering why I left it for so long is that I have had so much school work and GCSE revision, I think my eyes are going to pop out and I took on day off and dragged all my friends to watch the 4th movie. Which was absolute amazing biggrin.gif

I was a little disappointed that the Dursley were not there, it did pay off when the rest of the film unfolded.

I would also like to say Cedric Diggory (played by Robert Pattinson) is mighty fine wub.gif and I cried when Harry was crying because Cedric die, Harry was laying on him boling his eyes out and I had one or two tears sad.gif it was a very sad moment, I think they did a really good job on that scene biggrin.gif

I thought that it was really sweet when Harry was trying to as Cho to the ball and at first he mumbled it and Cho didn't get what he was saying and then he had the confides to ask again rolleyes.gif young love lol

I have to admit that Katie Leung (Cho Chang) acting was wonderful, especially for her very first time doing it and all. Just tell you if you have the inner talent then you don't need to go to a fancy acting school to prove it smile.gif

I really liked it when Draco Malfoy got turned in to a ferret, that was very entertaining laugh.gif

I thought the Yoll Ball was a little rushed, I don't think they showed enough of it, but it did seam very magic and it was lovely. I didn't like it when Hermione goes to Harry and Ron; go to bed both of you (it sounded more angry mother like then bossy friend), and I was surprised that they listened to her and went to bed early ohmy.gif But the whole tries performance was astounding.

I would write everything down on witch bit was amazing, but you would get an essay and everyone hates essays lol

However, over all it was an astonishing movie, well done to everyone that was part of the film wink.gif
Verita$erum
Hello fellow Potter fans,

I just saw Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (17 january 2006) and when it was over I just stared at the ending screen thinking... what the hell is this? blink.gif

I agree with Aurelia Hepburn that the film was just terrible. The book was awesome and they just decided to make whole different movie... I can't believe JK Rowling agreed with all of this... Many things didn't happen and when did Longbottom make the plant for Harry for the Second Task?! Dobby made that for him... and where was Winky and the rest ?!. Some important things didn't happen in the film and where were all the creatures in the maze at the third task!? The sphinx, the dementor (bogart) and how did Harry run so fast to the trophy when the giant spider in the maze bit his leg ..... I was also looking forward to the Quiditch match between Ireland and Bulgaria... to see the great krum fly... but that didn't happen as well... I'm dissapointed... sad.gif

Anyway, the film was fun to watch but in the end they should have told more.. everything happened so fast. I'm afraid of what they are going to do to 'The order of the Phoenix'... if they make such a terrible picture as well Í'm sticking to the books...

Hope they make a better movie next time...
Gwendy
I'm astounded at the responses here. I think people have been way too harsh. It was hardly terrible. I understand everybody has their own opinion but good grief.

There's a reason why they have to cut things out, and that reason is because the books about 700 pages and if they kept everything in it would be a 5+ hour movie which would be impossible to do. If they did that everyone would be complaining about the length of the movie. You have to take into consideration that this is a MOVIE, not the book, so it's going to be different. If you want to read the book go read the book, but if you want a cut down version of the book put into a visualization then watch the movies. Don't expect the movies to be exact representations of the books though. That will never happen. And I also think it's unfair to judge all the cuts in this movie because there were lots of changes (if not more) in the previous 3 movies but there really was no excuse for those changes because the books were quite short and could easily be made into a full length movie without all the cuts. With GOF that would be near impossible because the books so large.

I'm sorry if I sound a bit angry, I just think people are being extremely unfair because of their bias for the books.

I was a bit upset over some of the cuts made (like the SPEW and Dobby cuts) but I understand it's a version of the book, not the book itself. Movies will never be as good as the books, so I went in with that attitude and I was extremely pleased. I thought it was by far the best out of all of the movies. I thought it did an excellent job capturing the essence of the book. They did a good job of combining all of the different emotions in the book. It was sad, happy, funny, cute, and dramatic all at the same time. I thought the special effects were spectacular, and I really overall loved it.

GOF has also been my favorite book out of the series for a long time so you can imagine my expectations for this movie, and in the end I felt my expectations were met.

I'd like to hear what everyone here who didn't like GOF has to say about POA. I didn't really like POA, out of all three movies I'd probably say it's my least favorite, basically due to the directing. I just... didn't like it. I liked GOF much, much, much better than any of the other films.
bajab
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There's a reason why they have to cut things out, and that reason is because the books about 700 pages and if they kept everything in it would be a 5+ hour movie which would be impossible to do.


If a picture is worth a thousand words, I don't see this as impossible. More to the point, they CREATED EXTRA BITS that were not in the book. There have been other movies that were longer too. Dances with Wolves (180 minutes normal version, 224 minutes extended version), LOTR Return of the King (201 normal, 251 extended, GoF = 157 minutes), so it didn't HAVE to be the length it was.

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Don't expect the movies to be exact representations of the books though. That will never happen.


That's the problem. There really is no reason that it can't happen. Been to see Narinia yet? I haven't heard a single person complain that it was as different from the book as the GOF adaptation. To me it seemed almost exact.

The only reason the movie got made was because we liked the books, now instead of being faithful to the books, they are making a very different story out of it. What is their excuse?

Even if they did have to cut bits out for time's sake, why change the bits that were in there so radically (eg third task? - please don't say it was too expensive, special effects are cheap compared to sets and actors).

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And I also think it's unfair to judge all the cuts in this movie because there were lots of changes (if not more) in the previous 3 movies


I found the first movie to be the 'truest' to the book, and I think the box office reflected that most people felt the same. If anything the success of the last three movies meant they were under MORE pressure to keep as close to the books as possible, and had LESS excuse (profit was never in doubt).

Ask yourself this: if they now wrote a book from the movie (like they have for other movies), would it be as good as the original?

I didn't pay to just see a good movie, I paid to see Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, as described by J.K. Rowling. That didn't happen.

Gwendy
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That's the problem. There really is no reason that it can't happen. Been to see Narinia yet? I haven't heard a single person complain that it was as different from the book as the GOF adaptation. To me it seemed almost exact.

The only reason the movie got made was because we liked the books, now instead of being faithful to the books, they are making a very different story out of it. What is their excuse?

Even if they did have to cut bits out for time's sake, why change the bits that were in there so radically (eg third task? - please don't say it was too expensive, special effects are cheap compared to sets and actors).
Yes I saw Narnia but do you know how thick that book is? I finished it within a couple hours, it's not even an inch thick. The book was so short there would be absolutely no reason for them to cut anything out and that's why they didn't. It's quite simple. And the changes that are made to the story line in a movie are almost always done for a reason, whether you understand it or not is up to you. I find it to be quite obvious. There are certain things that come with a book that are impossible to recreate on film. For example, JK narrates throughout the book, on screen it's unwise to do narration's because you'd have to make the entire movie like that and it would just change the overall feel of the entire movie. There are going to, inevitably, be parts in the book that would be very hard to recreate on film so they simply cut them out. Now that's one reason, sometimes they make changes that seem completely uncalled for, but there's always a reason. I don't think they cut anything out because of cost restrictions, I think their main focus was getting to the point of the book as quickly as possible. SPEW was probably left out because the little scenes it would have taken up on screen would have without a doubt added at least 30 minutes to the movie, but obviously they couldn't have Harry not discover Gillyweed so what do they have to do? They have to make something up, which they did, they had Neville give it to him. Do I like the change? No, but I understand why it was done and I don't think that ruins the movie.

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If a picture is worth a thousand words, I don't see this as impossible. More to the point, they CREATED EXTRA BITS that were not in the book. There have been other movies that were longer too. Dances with Wolves (180 minutes normal version, 224 minutes extended version), LOTR Return of the King (201 normal, 251 extended, GoF = 157 minutes), so it didn't HAVE to be the length it was.
I've heard many, many, many, many people complain about the lengths of both films. I'm not a DWW fan (I've only seen bits and pieces and heard about it more than anything) but I'm a huge LOTR fan so I didn't mind the length of that film, but during it's release practically all I heard from people were comments about how long it was. I even know some people who did not go to see it because they knew they couldn't sit in a theater for that long.

You must also remember that those movies are directed toward adults, this is directed more toward children and young teens (personally I don't think of HP as simply children's novels but I'm speaking in generality of what a movie studio would think) and no studio is going to want a children's movie to be 3+ hours. My mother went to see COS with us when it came to theaters and she had to get up and leave because she couldn't stand the length of it. That was only 161 minutes. You obviously wouldn't mind the length but you have to remember, they want to please fans of the books and movie goers. There's a lot of people who have never read the books that go to the movies to see these films and they have to please them as well. They can't just please one audience and because of that they're inevitably going to upset some fans but such is life.

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Ask yourself this: if they now wrote a book from the movie (like they have for other movies), would it be as good as the original?

I didn't pay to just see a good movie, I paid to see Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, as described by J.K. Rowling. That didn't happen.
Then I suggest you never go and see another adaptation of a book on film again because that will never happen. It just won't. As I stated before, it's impossible to take a 700+ pg book and make it the exact same on screen unless you want to make the movie 5+ hours. It's impossible. You used LOTRs as an example, and it's a perfect example. Do you know how much they cut out and changed in those films? Did the changes make the films bad? Of course not. Did they kind of suck because they were fantastic parts in the book? Definitely. Have you seen the Extended ROTK that's 4+ hours? Do you know how much is still missing from the books even in the Extended 4 hour movie?

I don't like any of the cuts, but I understand the differences between a film and a book. There's a reason people always say the books are better than the movies and that's because of this fact, you'll never find an exact film adaptation of a novel (except for very rare cases like The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe because that was such a incredibly short novel and therefore easy to adapt on screen).

There's also the fact, that I think you are forgetting, that the first three books were quite short and it could have been done and it was done very well, but they still made cuts from them so in my opinion those changes and cuts were completely uncalled for whereas with this book, it's more appropriate because it's such a long book.

And also, I don't go to the movies to see the BOOK on screen, I have the book. I love the book. I read the books all the time whenever I want. I go to the movies to see an adaptation. That's the difference.

I went through all of this with LOTRs so maybe that's why I'm used to it, but I still think it's silly for someone to want an exact replica of the book on screen when it's a 700+ page book.

Edit: I just wanted to edit this incase anything I said is misinterpreted. I'm not attacking you in any way, I'm simply disagreeing, and I also don't find the movie to be a perfect representation of the books so don't think I'm 100% behind all the cuts and changes and the movie itself. There was a lot in the movie that bothered me but I just understand the differences between a adaptation of a book and the book itself. I don't expect the movies to BE the books and I'm sure that's why I look at it the way I do compared to the way you do.

I just wanted to clarify before anything is (like I said) misinterpreted. smile.gif
iesje
I thought the movie was bad... considering everything that was in the book... If you hadn't read the book, it was a good movie.. but I missed stuff! You know, I really wanted to know how Bellatrix Lestrange looked like, and I never read that Barty had this weird thing going on with his tongue... I might have read it wrong though.. And also Dumbledore.. he wasn't very supporting, was he?? He was almost attacking Harry after his name came out of the Goblet, what was that about?? And I was really disappointed that we didn't see more of the World Cup.. But also the maze.. it was kinda weird.. which brings me to another thing.. where did the blast ended skrewts go to?? They should have been in the movie, if not in Care of Magical Creatures, it should have been in the maze..
Well, that's it for now.. don't know anything else..

xxxxx
razzberry2
I've been to see GOF more times than I care to count now because I tagged along with everyone I know who went to see it.

Its just a personal opinion, but sure they had to cut a lot of the extra storylines out because its just not feasable to even try to put it all in. The film makers know that, otherwise I am certain they would have left most of it in. They know people love the books, they've visited the forums and looked at all of the intricate discussions going on about the many subplots, but at the end of the day, they had to stick to the main event - the Triwizard Tournament.

Everyone knows how different the medium of film is to litrature, so much so that even the stuff that is left in has to be manipulated so that it makes sense on the big screen.

I once read, for example, how "ridiculous" it was that Krums eyes were all fogged over in the maze, but in reality, they had to show a visual representation of Krums bewitchment or people who hadn't read the books would never have known it wasn't Krum acting on his own. The film is full of those little hints and clues to help people along. The tounge whipping of Barty Crouch Jnr, the yell from the chest with seven locks when Harry is in Moody's office for the first time. It goes on and on, and for good reason.

I think possibly the reason they did the maze as they did was because of time constraints more than anything else. Harry didn't really have time to face a boggart, a blast-ended skrewt and a Sphinx, that alone would have taken up 30 minutes of film, and he wouldn't have even reached the graveyard yet. I thought they did a good job turning the maze into a psycological test of sanity.

I wont harp on anymore, and I do understand when people say they would have liked to have seen the book in its entirity, but maybe that's best left for the inevitable TV series where they can spend time on each section.

I thoroughly enjoyed the film, and although I was one of those people calling for a longer film, I dont think I could have sat there any longer than I did. It just gets plain uncomfortable!

They made an excellent flick and its maybe time to appreciate what they did manage to do by compressing that fabulous book, rather than focasing on the negatives which were always going to happen anyway. They had to happen. I think they did make a lot of really sound choices. The one thing I still have a slight issue with was the "trio" moments lacked a little heart. After all, their friendship is the key to the magic of the books in many ways.

Er ... didn't mean to preach, just trying to cut them some slack. tongue.gif
ashley.s
I thought that is was brill and the effects and stuff were great but they missed some things out but still i think the film was long enough!lol!
Gwendy
QUOTE (razzberry2 @ Jan 21 2006, 09:42 AM)
I've been to see GOF more times than I care to count now because I tagged along with everyone I know who went to see it. 

Its just a personal opinion, but sure they had to cut a lot of the extra storylines out because its just not feasable to even try to put it all in.  The film makers know that, otherwise I am certain they would have left most of it in.  They know people love the books, they've visited the forums and looked at all of the intricate discussions going on about the many subplots, but at the end of the day, they had to stick to the main event - the Triwizard Tournament.

Everyone knows how different the medium of film is to litrature, so much so that even the stuff that is left in has to be manipulated so that it makes sense on the big screen.

I once read, for example, how "ridiculous" it was that Krums eyes were all fogged over in the maze, but in reality, they had to show a visual representation of Krums bewitchment or people who hadn't read the books would never have known it wasn't Krum acting on his own.  The film is full of those little hints and clues to help people along.  The tounge whipping of Barty Crouch Jnr, the yell from the chest with seven locks when Harry is in Moody's office for the first time.  It goes on and on, and for good reason.

I think possibly the reason they did the maze as they did was because of time constraints more than anything else.  Harry didn't really have time to face a boggart, a blast-ended skrewt and a Sphinx, that alone would have taken up 30 minutes of film, and he wouldn't have even reached the graveyard yet.  I thought they did a good job turning the maze into a psycological test of sanity.

I wont harp on anymore, and I do understand when people say they would have liked to have seen the book in its entirity, but maybe that's best left for the inevitable TV series where they can spend time on each section.

I thoroughly enjoyed the film, and although I was one of those people calling for a longer film, I dont think I could have sat there any longer than I did.  It just gets plain uncomfortable!

They made an excellent flick and its maybe time to appreciate what they did manage to do by compressing that fabulous book, rather than focasing on the negatives which were always going to happen anyway.  They had to happen.  I think they did make a lot of really sound choices.  The one thing I still have a slight issue with was the "trio" moments lacked a little heart.  After all, their friendship is the key to the magic of the books in many ways.

Er ... didn't mean to preach, just trying to cut them some slack. tongue.gif

We share the same point of view. biggrin.gif



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Missratty
I completley agree! I saw the 4th Movie on the premire day in Australia. I loved it and since that day I have seen it 2 more times! I sat in the front row and when the Durmstrang ship arrived out of the Water it was the BEST!!!!

Do u think that the actors fitted there parts?
Urik Burik
The thing that actualy anoyed me the most was Barty Crouch.
I dont know why but he seemd so wrong.
I am actualy more irritaded on him than i ever have been on sir Gambon. dry.gif
salina
it was okay.

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AQHYAgrl
Okay the search never works for me! I'm sure this is on here somewhere but I can't find it. Does anyone know how they made Madame Maxine so large? I mean, she can't be on stilts and I don't think they did all that with camera angles and such. It's quite remarkable really, they've stumped myself and even my mum! So, can someone shed a bit of light on the situation for me, I'm really curious as to how they made her look so big. I know Hagrid wears large shoes but she was almost twice his size. Shoes couldn't have done that. Thanks and I hope someone replies soon because it seems like this thread has been abandoned.lol
razzberry2
Hi there AQHYgrl,

The questions you are asking are rather interesting, but they don't really belong here. The search engine will return an "error" reading if the key words you used cannot be found.

As far as I'm aware, there aren't any threads yet that discuss the special effects in the GOF film, so I'll open one up for you and transfer your post so it will be seen. smile.gif

razz
darkhriss
I think it's the best Harry Potter movie, but I don't like a few things...for example, they cut so many scenes, and the story is not like in the book...anyway...I LOVE IT!!
Amyrat151
I enjoyed it, I thought that Dan was really quite amasing. The effects were awsome, the costumes were something that I think are Oscar worthy, and the soundtrack kicks.
DarkMark92
its everything you could hope it to be. it was amazing! its much funnier than the first three! i absolutly loved it. smile.gif
Urik Burik
I think this film makes most justice to the book and books!
I mean characters like Neville and Malfoy feels more right.
Neville feels more geeky and Malfoy feels more mean.
Karkaroff looked and acted exakly as i imagined.
And the darknes was actualy darker than i imagined(i often dont get scared of books).
Voldemort looked and acted much scaryer as the one i had in mind(odd). blink.gif
DA Leader
WORST Harry Potter movie. The movie was to fast past and so much information was cut out that if you hadn't have read the book you very well might not have understood it. The movies always leave facts, which is understandable but GOF just left out to much.I would give the movie a rating of 1 out of 5. The only reason it got a 1 is because the graphics were amazing.

I am hoping that the 5th movie will be more like the first to movies. Which were paced well, had plenty of information in them, and were the most like the books.
Kristina
I saw the film twice and everytime i´ve thought that the end was too short. in the book the end is very good.
DA Leader
QUOTE (Roythetoxicboy555 @ Nov 18 2005, 06:23 AM)
I hate to say it but i didnt like it. There was just way way too much cut out for me but I understand they cant add every detail. So, all in all it was a good movie to see but not a good movie in correlation to the books. sad.gif

I completly agree. To much was left out for me to like it. The only good thing I can say about the movie is that the graphics were amazing.
krisie
I Really did like this movie. After all i have seen it 3 time. I think the reason a lot of you didn't like the movie was because you haven't separated the movie from the book. The movie is based on the book. I think people expect the movie to be the same as the book but it can't be because there isn't enough time to include everything. The only thing i didn't like was the kids were dressed in Muggle clothing a lot even when they were at school. The fact is they go to a wizarding school. You would think while they are at school they would dress in robes most of the time. Anyway apart from that, i really enoyed this movie
ariel89
i thought the movies was excellent.my favorite harry potter film.ralph fiennes was cool as voldemort.he's my favorite actor.
Padfoot08
[COLOR=red]I thought that it was the BEST HP movie so far!!
The third was ok, and the first and second were really good, but the fourth was the best. I wish that the the director of thr fourth movie do the fifth one also, but I know that he isn't, so I hope that the next director is as good if not better.
Lithium
Over all I was reallllly dissapointed. I know that it was a big book and they had to condense, but really, it's shorter than Prisoner of Azkaban. Did you know that!? They left out the introduction of Narcissa Malfoy, Charlie Weasley, Bill Weasley, Winky and Ludo Bagman. not to mention did they even mention the fact that Fred and George wanted to start a joke shop!? They skipped out on a lot of important things to make way for special effects and I know that's important to attract non HP book readers to make a big box office hit but really, it was so dissapointing. I found it choppy and annoying to watch at most parts.
On a less berating note: grave yard scene with Voldemort=my favorite Harry Potter scene thus far!!
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Steffigurl14
The DVD is awesome!! I went and bought it today!!

I love this movie. I know they left a lot out, but come on guys. There is NO WAY they can include everything. I think they did an amazing job on what they filmed and what was put in the movie.

The extra scenes are awesome. Check them out!
ahorsofadifcolor
The movie was good from a strictly "movie goers" standpoint. I took my boyfriend to see it and he's never seen any Harry Potter films but still manages to sit through the film and even laugh at a few scenes. I think the biggest problem is the stuff they cut from the book, albiet it had to be done, it just makes me wonder/worry about what their going to do for the 5th. I understand and even agree with some of the things they cut. S.P.E.W. for example, although a very cute part of the story is not really necessary to move the plot along in this movie or in the next. And if you get rid of S.P.E.W. you don't need the house elves do you? And without Winky you take away the suspicion about Barty Crouch. Also, taking away the Dursleys is also understandable, as is taking away most of the Quidditch World Cup. We've all seen Quidditch before and seeing the actual game does nothing to further the plot. They for the important parts in there.

There are certain things that I really wish they had kept in. For example, the scene in the pensieve with Bellatrix seems almost necessary for the plot of the 5th book, but again, doesn't do anything for the plot of the 4th. The biggest problem I had was the alarming lack of Sirius. After just meeting him in the third book, the fourth is a time to get to know him before the end of the fifth. I really hope they don't do the same in the 5th movie because I feel that he plays a very pivital role in the 5th book, along with the rest of the order.

Other than that, I was very happy with the film, moved a bit quickly but it told the story nicely and was very enjoyable.
Slytherin_Faerie
I sobbed, literally, when Cedric's body was brought back. Amos's pain, I could really feel it eeek.gif
Nimbus
Maybe I'm just hearing things, but everytime I watch the graveyard scene, after Voldemort uses the crucio curse on Harry, it sounds like he says 'cruci off' when he stops it. Maybe he's just saying 'crucio' again and I'm hearing it wrong. But, even then, you don't need to say crucio to remove the curse so I'm just curious why he does/says that. Or maybe I'm just hearing it wrong?
joeyjoejoe
I thought the movie was awesome! I loved....every second! The Cedric's body scene was sad though sad.gif poor Ced sad.gif and Amos too. They left some Dursley parts out that I wish I could have seen, but oh well. Also, they didnt show Karkaroff leaving, but I guess thats not TOO important. I mean, they can'tput in the whole book."Viktor's more of a physical being." lol, that was funny
eatmypaint90
I was very dissapointed. I had wished they would have elaborated more on the world cup... If GOf was not based on a Book I would have thought it was a good movie, but it was very off topic.

dumbleydore18
I bought the DVD the day it came out. That night, because I had school, I watched the special features and the movie. The movie is of course awsome! The special features are even better. I think they are better than the other film's special features. The interviews of Rupert, Emma, and Dan are really interesting and have queations that are more so of interest to most fans than "what is your favorite color?" like in past interviews. Over all I give HP:GOF DVD a 10!
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