razzberry2
Nov 18 2005, 09:08 AM
Okay, I'm setting this up even though I have no hope of commenting on it for another two weeks, seeing as the film doesn't come out here until the !st of December, but I'm sure most of you are going to have an opinion...
So let's here it. What did you think of Goblet of Fire?
emeraldbeauty
Nov 18 2005, 09:19 AM
it's brilliant i love it it's sad and funny and suspenseful and dark and scary and wonderful i love it i love it i love it! I cried...
bartycrouchjr
Nov 18 2005, 11:04 AM
I just got back from a midnight showing of GoF in Vancouver, Canada. I really liked how Neville had what seemed to me to be a bigger role than he did in the previous movies. I wished that we got to see more character development in Fleur and Viktor though. Ron was killer. At first, I thought the scenes at the beginning were way too rushed but after having seen the entire thing, I could see why summarizing everything was appropriate. I loved the symbolic images between the different scenes. The movie was dark, scary and sad. Overall, I really liked it.
Roythetoxicboy555
Nov 18 2005, 01:16 PM
I hate to say it but i didnt like it. There was just way way too much cut out for me but I understand they cant add every detail. So, all in all it was a good movie to see but not a good movie in correlation to the books.
kingsley11
Nov 18 2005, 01:33 PM
I thought the movie was simply amazing. the most important thing for me is how does it corrolate to the books and i thought they did the best possible job to remain loyal, i don't think many people will be dissapointed. the movie was also kinda scary at times which was great, no other potter movie has done that for me, and this was by far the funniest of all, Rupert is hillarious and there are so many scenes in which you'll die laughin. i loved prisoner of azkaban and this definately surpasses it.
Aurelia Hepburn
Nov 18 2005, 01:40 PM
I saw it at midnight last night.
What was JK Rowling thinking letting them make this movie the way it was?? Okay, I'm willing to accept the fact that there was not ONE PLAY shown for the Quidditch World Cup, and the complete rubbish that was the first task.
However!! *this is me ranting, it's in no particular order*
1) Barty Crouch Sr. does not die the way he did.
2) Whatever happened to Dobby, Winky, and S.P.E.W?
3) Where was Percy, Charlie, Bill, Ludo Bagman, Molly Weasley, and the Dursleys?
4) Why wasn't it mentioned how Hagrid and Madame Maxime are 1/2 giants, and why wasn't the story published by Rita Skeeter about it?
5) You never found out that Rita Skeeter was an unregistered animagus.
6) Was LV
dancing in the graveyard?? Was he prancing around like a fairy???
7) There were, what, 6 Death Eaters that showed up at the graveyard??
8) They never went into detail about how the Longbottoms were tortured into insanity. Granted, they did mention it, but that's all it was, a mention.
9) There was no Sphinx, Blast-Ended Skrewts, or ANYTHING ELSE in the maze! It was just moving hedges.
10) LV in the movie has human eyes. Now, yes, he has the slits for a nose, but he is also supposed to have red eyes!
11) The WHOLE PART where Dumbledore sends Snape and Hagrid on their missions is cut out. Don't you think Snape going on his mission is just a teensy bit important????
That's all I can think of at the moment, but I know there's more.
Calypso Fern
Nov 18 2005, 01:58 PM
NOTE: MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR SPOILERS FOLLOW
I just got back from the midnight showing of GoF in Honolulu, Hawaii, and I must say that I have probably not endured a greater disappointment. They didn't show the Quidditch World Cup. Ludo Bagman was not shown once. NONE of the characters were developed in the least bit. It was not revealed that Hagrid had a giantess mother. Bellatrix Lestrange was not shown at all; nor was Winky or Dobby. Snape's Dark Mark was never shown. Dumbledore was freakish and seemingly insane; not at all the calm, revered wizard that he is in the books. Cornelius Fudge was not shown except for a tiny part at the Quidditch World Cup. SIRIUS BLACK WASN'T SHOWN AT ALL! (Yes, I know, his visage appears in the fire, but it's a computer animation, not the actor.) And worst of all: they revealed the BIGGEST plot twist of the entire book AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MOVIE: the fact that Barty Crouch, Jr. was, in fact, still in the employ of Lord Voldemort and was still at large. It was thought that he was dead throughout the book, but he was one of the first people to be shown in the movie. Another HUGE thing that was excluded was the separation of Fudge and Dumbledore: the "Parting of the Ways." This was a pivotal and vitally important turning point in the books: it is when the Ministry of Magic and Dumbledore (The Order of the Phoenix) separate and begin to wage their own "private" war against one another as well as against Voldemort (who, of course, the Ministry chooses to ignore.)
Although many people who have not read the books will, inevitably, be astonished, amazed and delighted by the vivid imagery and special effects used in the movie, the book's deeper meaning was entirely lost, which will supremely disappoint most of the books' fans. Like me, a lover of JKR's extensive use of symbology and mythology, many people will find the movie to be EXTREMELY rushed. None of the creatures were shown in the maze; something I was greatly looking forward to being the Sphinx and its riddle, an allusion to the journey of Oedipus to Thebes (I won't go into that, it's off-topic).
There are, however, several good things about the movie, the most obvious being the delightful performance of Miranda Richardson as Rita Skeeter. I have never laughed harder than when Malfoy was turned into a ferret by ol' Mad Eye. Ron, surprisingly, was one of the most developed characters in the movie, even compared to Harry, as well as being a comic relief of sorts.
Ralph Fiennes as Voldemort was a bit over-the-top. Barty Crouch, Jr. was not the cowering teenager screaming for his father's mercy but a deranged, additionally over-the-top oddity. None of Hagrid's Care of Magical Creatures classes were shown! S.P.E.W. was not mentioned once. I am sure that Barty Crouch Jr.'s incomplete telling of his tale under the incorrectly portrayed influence of Veritaserum left non-readers of the series completely confused. I could go on all day, but I don't think that there's a need.
In conclusion, I believe that this movie was entirely a money maker, containing, as I mentioned before, none of the deeper meaning that is vital to the books' storytelling purposes. I could compare the quality of this movie to that of Lord of the Rings, but it would be like comparing an ant to a giant. The Lord of the Rings was a vast, sweeping epic that had no traces of being rushed despite the books'' lengths; whereas GoF's film counterpart, based on a much shorter book than any of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, flowed like mud through rocks.
On an interesting ending note, did anyone happen to notice JKR's inconspicuous cameo?.....I had to do a double take.....
Way Too Much Time on Her Hands Nitpicking the Finer Details of HP,
~Calypso~
hermioneKJ
Nov 18 2005, 02:37 PM
I went to the midnight showing and although it was a very good movie, it wasn't so good in relation to the book. It wasn't that I didn't like the film, but when you are such a big fan of the books and especially when you JUST finished re-reading GOF about an hour before the film started (haha) all the stuff from the book is fresh in your mind and of course you are comparing the two!
(Spoilers below)
The bad things - The movie is basically entirely based on the tournament so a lot of the subplots (SPEW, Hagrid/Madame Maxine's giant/giantess storyline, all the stuff w/ Percy, and I'm probably forgetting some more) are completely left out. I understand it's a long book, but they could have fit some more in there - it's about 2.5 hours I believe...I guess they wanted to keep it under 3 hrs? The absence of Winky, Dobby, Percy, Bagman etc. messed up the story....I guess I could see leaving out Ludo Bagman b/c he didnt play that important of a role, but Winky especially was VERY important in the 4th book! Leaving Winky out completely changed the story...and I was also very looking forward to seeing the Hogwarts kitchen and all the house elves, and of course Winky drunk from butterbeer! As soon as I saw Barty Crouch Jr in the beginning of the movie I was really annoyed -- in the book that was the biggest surprise that it was actually Barty disguised as Mad Eye. The absence of Sirius was disappointing, the only time you see him is in the fire. My friends and I were also saying that we liked the old Dumbledore a lot better...Dumbledore in this film is kind of a bumbling idiot.
The good things - The special effects, scenery and everything were great. I liked the way they portrayed the tasks, although they did change them a little bit, but all in all, they did a good job with that part. The Yule ball was one of the best parts of the film! I loved seeing Fred and George have a bigger role in this film, they were hilarious and so was Ron!!! Also, Neville played a bigger part which was nice. All in all, the film was very funny...esp the part with Malfoy and the ferret...heehee

I liked the portrayal of Rita Skeeter too, just like I imagined her being. (But they left out the fact that she's an unregistered animagus!)
By the way, what part was JKR in? I missed that one!!
gaburdette
Nov 18 2005, 02:49 PM
I think the movie was wonderful. It is by far the best of the four made. The trio are getting much better at acting. As others mentioned Ron was great in the movie. He and Harry needed a hair cut though. The bouncing ferret and the twins crossing the age barrier were great comic relief. Neville was wonderful as well. It was nice seeing him in a bigger role as he is one of my favorite characters.
Despite how great it was the movie did have major and minor problems. I can live with the cut scenes and character omissions. It was a huge book and not everything could be put in.
Major Issues
1. During the pensieve scene it is Crouch Jr. that is given credit for torturing the Longbottoms. There is no mention of Bellatrix or anyone else being involved. This is a major plot change. I can not see how this will play into the other movies since Bellatrix will be one of the most important DE's and Neville's nemesis. Also, Crouch Jr. was completely out of character compared to how he was written in the book.
2. There was no mention of Crouch Jr's "Death" in prison. During the final scene with him nothing is said of it and Dumbledore makes a statement that they need to alert the prison they have an escaped prisoner. What!!!

We see from the beginning that Crouch has been out all year. How bad is the prison run that a year goes by and they do not know they have an escaped prisoner?
3. The whole scene of Dumbledore's split with Fudge is gone. Also, the scene where Fudge brings in the Dementor and kills Crouch Jr. is absent. At the end of the movie we are left with the impression that he is being sent back to prison. While this being out worked for this movie, is really messes up the continuity to OotP.
Minor Issues
1. They have the scene with Hagrid and Maxine but there is no mention about 1/2 giants. They are headed that way and then the scene is cut off. Why not finish the scene?
2. Snape gave Crouch Jr. the Veritaserum but they for the most part skip actually questioning him. After they find the real Moody the questions are ended. Why the Veritaserum in the first place?
3. Fleur is portrayed extremely weak in the movie. She is a school champion, maybe the weaker of the four but still a champion. Hagrid makes the comment that she is as much a fairy princess as he is. Yet the movie portrays her as a fairy princess.
4. At the last task the champions were with their family. In the book Harry with Molly and Bill. Why not bring in Molly for this one small scene and make the fans happy. The whole purpose of this scene is to build on the "Harry is a member of the Weasley Family" theme. Going into OotP, Rowling really starts to hit hard on this. Instead they substitute Dumbledore. Rowling keeps him seperate from Harry until HBP. He is not seen as Harry's family. Hagrid would have been a better choice than Dumbledore at this point in the series. Also, Dumbledore is a judge and him being with Harry like that just does not fit.
I could go on for days so I will stop now and let others chime in.
Crb08
Nov 18 2005, 02:50 PM
It was the best movie out of the four, I knew that they weren't going to put all the info from the book, but I was disappointed when they changed some of the stuff. I would be more specific, but not all the people saw that movie yet, and I don't want to ruin it for them. The part about Cedric though was very sad...I tried not to cry, but I did.
jewal
Nov 18 2005, 03:14 PM
We went to the Midnight show last night and I agree with all the likes, dislikes, frustrations about omissions and changes in plot that have been listed above... My overall impression was that it was the BEST ONE BY FAR though.
I appreciated the way Ron's character rose up from his usual dork role. and I also really enjoyed the twins having larger roles. They are SO GREAT! It was also good to have Neville have more of a role too.
Having Barty Crouch Jr. be the one who tortured the Longbottoms was too big of a change though. Bellatrix is too large a character to cut her like that. I mean, SHE kills Sirius too! Her character is going to be HUGELY diminished now. The worst things about her were her torture of the Longbottoms and her killing Sirius (and Obviously enjoying both).
Both Boys were Extremely Cute in this movie. (NOT a pedophile here but I DO have eyes!) The scene with Moaning Myrtley was PRICELESS!
I was very depressed about the way they removed most of the interactions between Harry and Hermione that I loved in this book. Still some good ones, but I looked forward to seeing her choosing to spend time with Harry over Ron when they were fighting, and the walk around the lake. They took all that out and showed her with Ron and Ginny instead. Making Harry hang out with Neville.
I was surprised to see so much of Ginny onscreen... I guess they did get wind of the book. They sure played her up compared to the other books. Not alot of lines but alot more screen time with the trio.
I like the way the movie felt this time. It felt more REAL than any of the other movies. Very CLOSE. The cinematography (sp?) was the best for me of all the movies. EXCELLENT special effects!
Frank Bryce was GREAT. Really weird to have Bary Jr. in Opening scene with Wormtail and Voldemort.
Excellent Visuals. I actually Cried when Cedric Died. They really let you feel what a nice guy he was and so you felt it when he died.
It was very strange to see Voldemort alive. I thought it was interesting. It made him more human for me in alot of ways. He WAS human and you can see it more now. They should have made him wear slitty looking red contacts though. But Overall it was interesting seeing him.
Looking forward to talking about it!
hermioneKJ
Nov 18 2005, 03:15 PM
Yes, forgot to add that part. The part when Harry brings Cedric's body back was soooooooooooooooooo sad

I def cried!
compxlicated
Nov 18 2005, 03:31 PM
I am not going to repeat what everyone else has been saying because I just feel that people are tired of reading and re-reading them over and over. The movie was choppy, it seemed that you were getting comfortable with what is going on then POOF into another scene. No one knew what happened at the Cup (like Ireland won but Krum caught the snitch), no veelas, just opening of game then poof the death eaters arrive. I'm not going to critique the entire movie since I'll be doing that with my friend, Shari anyways but I think for the people who haven't read the books might understand what's going on but I think they might want some catching up done afterwards since my husband had questions after the movie since he didn't get some scenes. I understand that this was a big job for a new director but in my view, they should keep one director and stop remodeling the school and keep the vision of the books square rather than tweeking it as they have been.
Okay I'm done
DarkWizard
Nov 18 2005, 03:43 PM
I went to the midnight showing in Pennsylvania and I stood out in the freezoing cold for 1.5 - 2 hrs. (My friend and I were first in line

) Anyhoo, I agree with the majority in respect that the movie felt a bit rushed. At first I thought I was watching a trailer for the movie.
The World Cup was built up to be amazing, but then as soon as the game starts, it ends, and they dont even really tell you who won.
Then the part with the arrival of the other schools bothered me a lot. It showed the arrival of the other schools before DD mentioned the tri-wizard tournament. In the book the tournament was announced 2 chapters before the schools arrive.
The humor was excellent. Never laughed so much during a Harry Potter movie.
As for Voldemort, Im pretty sure his eyes were red, but only for a split second...right when he came out of the cauldron. I remember them being red, then they looked snake like. then they became human. I also felt that Voldemort was...unstable i think is the right term. In the book I saw him as a cool, dark, evil, confident wizard. Kind of like Dumbledore except evil, or like the way Tom Riddle acted in Chamber of Secrets.
Overall I really enjoyed the movie, except for the fact that in the first 20 minutes I had to use the restroom, but decided to wait until the movie ended because I didnt want to miss a single moment. I could keep rambling on, but I dont want to ruin the movie for those that havent seen it yet either.
SouLRenderZ
Nov 18 2005, 03:46 PM
Although I'm a huge fan of both the book and the movie, I must say I'm left pretty disappointed with this one. One very obvious feeling I get while watching the movie is that every scene is being rushed.
Though the special effects and the scenery setting for this movie was brilliant, the content was simply unfulfilling. The absence of certain parts like the Blast-Ended Skrewts and the meeting with Sirius Black as well as the whole Rita Skeeter not being as annoying as she really is really disappointed me.
Ultimately, I feel one of the worst parts was the portrayal of Dumbledore by Michael Gambon. Instead of the calm, patient, soft-spoken and wise Dumbledore as described in the book, he was fierce ( Remember how he was shouting Harry's name after it popped out of the goblet and when he grabbed Harry around his neck ) and unsettled. In a word he was a raving lunatic. Not how I would imagine the most powerful wizard alive.
Overall I feel the movie didn't live up to its hype.
sunandar
Nov 18 2005, 04:01 PM
OMG, i just came back from GOF movie and it was incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!! i mean yes, all the cast can portray their character extremely well. emma watson can show tt hermione was so excited for the YULE Ball with her exicted giggle at harry. and the graveyard scene was really scary!!!!! anyway, the twins add a good humour to the movie... however, some of the scenes where hermione decided to spend most of her time with harry was cut.. so sad

on the whole, it was a really nice movie.. there are alot of HHR scenes also. so nice!
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Quinnkatst
Nov 18 2005, 04:14 PM
WOW, it was SO fun! The waiting in line for 5 hours was worth it!!! BEST MOVIE YET!!!!! HOLY CRAP, it was GOOD!! Mike Newell (sp?) did an AMAZING job on this movie!!!! I'm going to watch it again tonight..hehe
Seriously, Daniel Radcliffe has become SO good! He was AMAZING compared to the other movies...the Emma and Rupert as well..they were just.. AMAZING!!! WOW, that's all I can say. It was just... the best movie premiere ever!
davies
Nov 18 2005, 04:29 PM
The movie sounds brilliant, I'm seeing it next weekend. Where fred and Georges beards good
Obliviator
Nov 18 2005, 04:52 PM
Hmm,
I am not sure I want to go see this movie now after all that I have read here. Sounds like a real let down. I mean I knew that it was going to be chopped but retelling the plot??? I am sorry but why are they getting off couse with the book? Why are they changing things around?
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gaiamama
Nov 18 2005, 04:55 PM
What I liked
Fred and George funnier and more of them
Harry and Ron in trouble at study hall (nice bit for Snape)
Yule ball looked great
Ron danceing wiht McG.
row btwn ron and hermoine
tasks were exciting
WHat I didn't like being a true fan of the books
No ton-tongue toffee (i was looking forward to that)
No Ludo at all!
NO subplots!!!...Spew, Rita's trashy articles and personal wars on Hagrid and Hermoine
Why didn't DD send snape to join the death eaters at the end?
When did DD become borderline abusive to students, like Harry?
When has DD asked ANYONE in the MOM what should be done?
Madame Maxine was not revealed to be half giant. WHy is she so da.m tall?
no veela, why does everyone fall for fleur?
Brother wands was not revealed...have we ever seen two wands connect before?
the ending was not smooth at all...
should I go on???
final anylsis, as a movie....seperate from books, it's great. wonderful special effects, very exciting. I would have loved if I didn't feel as strongly as I did about the book. GOF is my fave book and I was extrememly disappointed. My expectations were just too high. will we go see it again...oh, most likely, but only as a mantinee since it's much cheaper. I just hope with the next 2, they go back to the books.
departed_soul
Nov 18 2005, 05:09 PM
GoF was awesome! This is definitely the best one yet, although I would've liked to see the demise of Rita Skeeter and the twins starting their "business". The actors have really grown into their roles, and there's action at every turn, and I stayed glued to my seat every second. Don't expect this to exactly follow the book. They've changed quite a few things around, which is understandable, but I like it. I'm seeing it again Saturday!
Ron ROX
Nov 18 2005, 05:21 PM
I saw an Advanced Veiwing at 6 on Thursday...
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I LUV IT! HOW THEY DID THE STADIUMS! BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!
bubotuber_pus
Nov 18 2005, 05:24 PM
If there isn't Bellatrix, which is a very important person, if there isn't Snape who goes to the Death Eaters, if there isn't Winky, if there's Barty Crouch Jr in the beginning of the movie, if Snape is hitting Harry and Ron (and he never uses physical stength in books, unless Harry drives him mad...), oh, I see that I can be as disappointed as I was watching the third movie... I'll watch GoF next week. It isn't available in my country now.
SapphicSticks
Nov 18 2005, 05:30 PM
I saw it 2 hours ago
I cried. Yep, I admit it freely, I was in floods of tears, the brilliance of it, combined with the heartbreaking death of Cedric (Dan's crying was actually really good, set me off even more)
Ralph Fiennes was incredible as Voldemort, I was a little worried about his face post transformation, but otherwise I was very impressed.
All of the tasks were great, my favourite was the first task, Harry flying around Hogwarts being chased by the dragon was cool.
All of the 3 main actors were good, Emma was astounding, Dan was great, Rupert stole the show...everyone in the cinema suddenly cracked up during his spat with Harry, when he tells Harry to "p off", I'm not sure why, but he captured Ron exactly...
Harry's dancing was laughable...fab!
Alan Rickman didn't get as many lines as I'd liked, but even in scenes where he didn't, he made an impact (the study hall scene...snicker)
Dumbledore...harsher than in the books, but not as bad as some feared.
All in all, I had steeled myself to face a film that was radically different than the book. And I was right to do so. Those who had expected a page by page portrayal are going to be disappointed. However as a film in it's own right, Goblet is phenomenal. The action, effects, plot are seamless. The pace is fast, the acting is really excellent, and the soundtrack...oh I loved it. I didn't care that John Williams hadn't scored Goblet after the first two minutes of the soundtrack, it was awesome.
I'm going to see it again on Sunday. Wahoo.
mrs.summergrint
Nov 18 2005, 05:45 PM
That movie was brillant.. I also went to the 12 o'clock show and I thought that it was brillant!!!!! I did want to see more on the quidditch world cup.... Oh yeah and i dont think i have ever been in a movie theater that quiet... but any ways i gotta go.... put in more later....
By the way I cried oh yes the tears were streaming....
Hogwarts Poetaetow
Nov 18 2005, 05:59 PM
I'm from Malaysia.

GoF was released on Nov 17 here. I watched the show yesterday (Nov 17, Malaysian time).
I hate to admit it but it was a bit of a disappointment to me. Too much cuts and editting of the real story. Barty Crouch Jr wasn't even supposed to be in The Riddle House at all. The Dursleys weren't even shown. Harry just woke up at The Burrow, and the next thing you know, they're headed for the Quidditch World Cup. And they didn't meet the Diggorys ON THE WAY to the hill, they met them ON the hill. It wouldn't make much difference if they had followed this part of the book. And it wasn't the minister talking, it was Bagman. They didn't even bother to introduce him, seeing he was an important character in GoF. So was Winky. And they didn't even run to the woods, Harry just fainted at the campsite. The delegations from Beauxbaatons and Durmstrang weren't even supposed to arrive so early. I understand that they want to save time and cut everything short but they shouldn't have messed with the order of things. It wouldn't waste much time to let the delegations arrive after the scenes of some school lessons and Moody turning Malfoy into a ferret instead of arriving at the feast. They've changed the whole plot. And i guess you all know the rest, so i won't elaborate much on this.
I agree Dumbledore was more a lunatic than a wise wizard and headmaster of an excellent school. More of a joke than anything, the way he grabbed Harry's neck and asked him if he had put his name into the goblet. According to the book, he was supposed to ask CALMLY. Hermione knew the answer to Moody's question, and she DID answer. If i'm not wrong, Beauxbaton has guys too, but i'm not sure if Durmstrang has girls. And there are lots more edited parts of the real story in the show that would make HP fans disappointed.
Despite all that, the special effects were REALLY GOOD, quite impressive actually. Neville improved in this show, so did the trio and the twins. And i almost cried when Cedric's body was brought back.
My personal conclusion is --- They could cut out unimportant scenes, but not change the plot and stuff, which is what really disappoints me.. They should have read the book more carefully before making a million-dollar show based on it. Not a bad show, just wasn't good enough. Hope they do a better job with OotP.
mugglemomof3
Nov 18 2005, 06:12 PM
This movie was brilliant. I'm an adult and loved every second of the film. Yes - I was disappointed in what they left out - but It's a Movie and it was already 2 hours and 30 minutes long. They could not have put anything else in.
It was so rewarding as a mother to see that these child actors are learning to act! They are finally truly getting their emotions across and I couldn't be prouder than if they were my own kids! Neville was amazing. Ron was actually way better than I thought he would be. Harry rocks! Hermione and Dumbledore were the only two that I was disappointed in, but Emma did make me cry at the very end when she is overcome by the fact that life is hard. And Richard Harris will be the only Dumbledore that I will ever embrace! May he rest in peace.
Crouch Sr. and Jr were brilliant. Voldemort was amazing. I have to eat crow and say that Mad Eye Moody was just better than I had pictured him in my head (seeing the clips and stills - I was so worried)
Viktor and Fleur and Madame Maxine and Karkaroff were wonderful. I did hate the way they portrayed Cedric at the end of the maze scene - it made him seem like a bully. anyway
This is the only time I have seen a movie after I've read the book and wasn't disappointed. I think Mike Newell did an amazing job of getting the TONE right. I laughed. I cried. I jumped. I hid my eyes behind stretched fingers! I clapped. I oooohed. I "wowed".
This was a great dark movie. Thankfully - my kids are used to such and had read the books and knew what to expect. Because I don't think most 10 year olds will be able to stand this movie. It is really scary. (of course, my 11-year old neighbor who went with us was really disappointed because it wasn't scary enough and he didn't like the movie. Said the book was WAY better.)
I haven't been this entertained in a movie since Spider Man and before that - Jurassic Park. Way to go Mike Newell!!!!!!
And of course, thank you Jo.
rainyDay
Nov 18 2005, 07:11 PM
itīgreat!!! i just love it... pity they cut so much...! ididnīt imagine anything [B]like they showed it in the movie...but that wasnīt much of a surprise...
i think voldemort looked GREAT, though!
i think itīs the best movie so far, but i reckon OotPh will be better... because the films just get better every time... like the books...at least i think so
Carmine
Nov 18 2005, 07:11 PM
Ok, let me say that seeing it at midnight was brilliant. And seeing it in IMAX was doubly brilliant. It was totally worth the six hours of road time.
Now I'm not going to sit here and turn this into canon fodder, because for cinematic reasons, they had to leave out things. I do have a few problems, mainly with Dumbledore and Voldemort.
Both characters were far too over the top for my liking. I had always pictured Dumbledore as a wise, patient, and kind wizard, perhaps with a hint of dottiness, but not one to have "outbursts". Had they made him calmer, and worried as he was meant to be in the book, it would have heightened the gravity of Harry's situation. Dumbledore was acting like Harry drowned his pet phoenix or something.
Am i the only one who pictured Voldemort as not being so...cheerful? He just sounded crazy. The Voldemort in my mind is cold, calculating, and very much a shrewd wizard, who thought a lot about what he was going to do before he did it. During the whole rebirthing scene, I thought he would have been quite collected and much, much nastier, especially since he thought he had it all in the bag: rebirth, Harry's death, etc.
That rebirth scene was amazingly awesome. I totally didn't think that they were going to show Wormtail cutting his hand off. And then Voldy MELTED the cauldron and popped out of some alien-esque womb. True awesomeness.
The Weasley twins were SO GREAT in this film, they had a much bigger role as the comic relief. I love Fred's asking Angelina to the ball.
And THE BALL, oh my goodness. Hermione looked like a princess, she was so pretty! And the tension between Ron and Hermione was great!
I could go on and on about this movie, but I'm going to wait until I see it again to give a proper, organised-type review.
--Red
okamiko0688
Nov 18 2005, 07:13 PM
I saw the first showing at 12:01 AM last night. I LOVED it. I seriously did like it. Of course, its a split, many people agree. If you havnt read the books. You'll absolutely adore it, but if you have, it is very very depressing. They really did take sooo much out of the books. The thing I really didnt like is how it would go from one extreme scene to the next. Things would happen so fast and you would have to think about whats going on.
Over all, I totally love the movie and would love to buy it on DVD. It was funny, sad, and scary. The characters were great, and the characters who previously had small roles, had a bigger part. I think that even if you havent seen it, and read all the upsetting facts about the movie, that you would still enjoy it.
Cant wait till OoP!!
Meggie
Nov 18 2005, 07:16 PM
Basically the best movie of my life! I went to the midnight showing in Chicago, got an hour of sleep, and probably just failed my French final because of it. And it was all worth it. I was with people who are also huge HP fans, which was excellent because it meant that everyone was just as excited as I was. I was laughing so hard almost the entire time. Fred and George are fabulous, and Ron and Hermione interact beautifully, especially when Hermione tells him he ruins everything after the Yule Ball. I thought I would die when Moaning Myrtle was torturing Harry in the bathroom. Snape is just... Wow, I think I'm even more in love with that character than ever. The ending was horribly sad, of course, but also wonderful. Poor Harry. Everything was just awesome. I came out of the theatre wanting to walk right back in and watch the whole thing again. This is not to say that there weren't a million things missing, because there definitely were, but I found myself not caring. It was just that incredible.
Steffigurl14
Nov 18 2005, 07:19 PM
I saw the movie last night at 12:01 in Jacksonville Florida and I loved it. It was funny, sad, and sometimes scary. The twins cracked me up! They made the movie for me. I also loved Neville at the second task.
One thing I didnt like was that a lot of it had been cut out. I understand that every little detail cant be in this movie but I do wish they hadnt cut out so many things but now I will be looking foawrd to the DVD.
I didnt like the third movie at all and was scared that this one would be just the same but Mike Newell proved me wrong.
Daniel, Rupert and Emma are doing so well in these movies. I have heard rumors that they wont be coming back after the 5th movie..I hope that isnt true.
Well if you want to talk to me more about it...IM at FleepFlops06
hpnlotrwriter85
Nov 18 2005, 07:19 PM
I Loved the fourth movie! it may be one of the best in the series. True, they did have to take a lot of the book out to make it time appropriate, but I think that they did a fine job. The acting just keeps getting better: I've never seen Harry so emotional! All of the new characters are splendid, but I wish that they did resolve Rita Skeeter's subplot. Anyway, loved the movie, I hope everyone enjoys it as well!!!! I didn't even mind having to only get 4 hours of sleep because I had to get up at 8 for a class. YES! Harry Potter Rules!
Amanda
Cleansweep6
Nov 18 2005, 07:20 PM

I have to agree with everyone... although the movie was the best so far, I was disappointed at how much they cut out... I mean if they had time to cut that much out and ADD NEW STUFF

then they obviously were only trying to loosly base it on the book and that certainly not what I (and I'm sure that I speak for the collective) wanted or expected...
NosebleedNougat
Nov 18 2005, 07:36 PM
I think I am also pretty disappointed about the movie.Before I went into the movie I knew that they were cutting a lot of characters and so I was prepared, but in my opinion it was almost completely diffrent to the book. I mean the 4th book was my favorite and I didnt expect that it would be like this!
Why are they changing everything? I know that they cannot put everything into the movie but why are they inventing new things?It looked like they were too lazy to read the whole book and so they just invented something else. I mean were there any dancing lessons in the books? I cannot remember something like that. And the whole first task was way too long! If they hadnt put these things into the movie they would have had more time for the real story e.g. the QWC could be longer because it looked good at the beginning but then they just broke off. I dont want to repeat all the disapointments in the movie but there were really a lot of them.
I have to agree that they were also some good scenes in the movie like the second task, they made it pretty good and I was happy to see the twins so often because they are really the funniest part in the books.I also liked the special effects in this movie but I cant understand why they are wasting so much time to make the effects so gorgeous and not to deal with the true story. The scene in the maze for example looked so creepy and cool but they were more careing about how it has to look like than about the things that have to happen in this task(the sphinx etc.)
I think the best thing in the movie was the acting performence of all the actors. They are brilliant, especially Dan. He was gorgeous when Cedric died and when he was in the graveyard fighting against Voldemort. Oh yeah, speaking of Voldemort, that wasnt really Voldemort was it? He looked too much like a human not like I imagined him. I think someone here said it before that he should behave more like Tom Riddle not like someone who got mad.
I think I could go on complaining like this the whole night but its enough for today

. I just want to say yet one thing. Its pretty strange that I watched the movie with 3 friend and the only one who liked the movie was someone who didnt read the books.Isnt that weird?
Muffin
Nov 18 2005, 07:48 PM
| QUOTE (Steffigurl14 @ Nov 18 2005, 12:26 PM) |
I saw the movie last night at 12:01 in Jacksonville Florida and I loved it. It was funny, sad, and sometimes scary. The twins cracked me up! They made the movie for me. I also loved Neville at the second task.
One thing I didnt like was that a lot of it had been cut out. I understand that every little detail cant be in this movie but I do wish they hadnt cut out so many things but now I will be looking foawrd to the DVD.
I didnt like the third movie at all and was scared that this one would be just the same but Mike Newell proved me wrong.
Daniel, Rupert and Emma are doing so well in these movies. I have heard rumors that they wont be coming back after the 5th movie..I hope that isnt true.
Well if you want to talk to me more about it...IM at FleepFlops06 |
I saw it in Jacksonville last night too, at the Orange Park Mall! And yes, I'm looking forward to the DVD too for all the bits that were cut.
From what I've read on this site, they have already signed to come back for the 5th movie.
retrosc
Nov 18 2005, 07:56 PM
You guys need to remember that not all people have read the Harry Potter books. So even though some of you may be dissappointed on how the movie turned out, others might like it for what it is. I believe that tried to make the movie appeal to everyone who is going to watch it, which is why so many things were cut out and changed.
*SPOILER?*
(ex. Barty Crouch Junior was put in the beginning so (I think) that people who haven't read the book were not going to be confused.)
*END*
As for my opinion on how the movie turned out, it was great; full of humor, very dark themes, nice effects. However, the pacing of the movie could've have been done better. As some of you guys already mentioned, scenes were rushed and transitions from scene to scene were pretty non existant. Other than that, I was amazed on how much story the crammed into an 2hr 30min timeline.
It'd be a great movie to see if you haven't read book 4. If you have however, just don't be so biased when watching the movie because of the book.
marked
Nov 18 2005, 08:00 PM
i for one, thought the movie was amazing.
what i don't understand, though, is why some people expected it to follow the book word for word? they have to have known that there is possibly no way everything could be added.
i think that the writers did a commendable job with the movie. yea, so things we left out, but they have the real heart of the book in the movie, and that's what counts.
chelsie
Nov 18 2005, 08:32 PM
The producers and directors clearly stated that none of the scenes with the house elves will appear (something to do with it being a movie about the angst of a teenage boy(?) ) so there will have been no need for the s.p.e.w campaign to have been mentioned.
I thought the movie was amazing but the fact that scenes were muddled up annoyed me.
Also, there was barely no Draco Malfoy in the film. We saw him teasing once. In the book he and his goons teased the trio about 10 times.
I obviously know that the movies are never going to go according to the book and dont expect them to be. But really, why include that foolish bit with Karkaroff acting suspiciously, then scene before (?) everyone finding out that harry will be running.
Also what the hell happened to Pansy? what was wrong with the old one? Wasn't Draco supposed to dance with hermione at some point?
It was good to see a bit of Draco's relationship with his father though.
Anduril
Nov 18 2005, 08:44 PM
[font=Optima] I thought that the movie sucked. That's it. End of dicussion.
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f1tt0
Nov 18 2005, 08:56 PM
You can't do nothing but love this movie! I've read the book about 7 times, and I didn't get dissapointeded at all, even though the director left some details out.
What I really did love in this movie was Hermione ! She is probably my favorite character in the whole world of films !
She is not just cute and sexy, she is also talented, smart, and tender.
PLEASE EVERYONE ! GO SEE THIS MOVIE , I PROMISE YOU, YOU'LL LOVE IT !
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Potter_Crazy!!!
Nov 18 2005, 08:58 PM
OMG! IT WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZINGLY FANTASTIC!
LIKE SO AMAZING!!!!!! I nearly cried at the end

but is was brillliant. the dragons, voldemort,the maze, the mermaids - EVERYTHING!
the beginning was a bit rushed though i have to say. i loved all the bits with neville. at one point i even shouted GO ON NEVILLE! at the screen. he is so tall! voldemort scared me half to death!!!! and the avada kedavra was so cool!!!!
it was also very emotional and VERY funny! especially the twins. HAHAHA! the third task was a little too short. and the bathroom scene aswell. didn't the mermaid talk? and god she had abs! God myrtle's actress is sooooo lucky! anyone who gets to work there is! harry always trying to pull all the bubbles to him and how she was talking about cedric. Snape is pure evil. and the pensieve - WOW! the dragons- WOW!!!!
I especially like the romance bits. like wen hermione is shouting at ron that he ruined everything. the guy is so THICK!!! doesn't he get it?
Katie Leung is a very good actress but she really needs to get her on screen crying abilities into shape.
I was dissapointed by how much they cut out but i still LOVED the movie. so for the next 2 yrs (until hp5) it'll be my fav movie. cos knowing harry - the next film'll be better than the last.
And i totally agree with carmine because dumbledore was so over the top i mean with nearly killing harry out of fright of being 'like' attacked by the head master and voldy was so insane, like a mad hatter. i thought of him as being alot calmer and like you no just a hit of anger but the way he was he actually looked kinda like an alien hobo.
It was so great that i just wanted to stay seated and stay there till the next showing haf an hour later.
well all in all i t was absolutely fantastic AND wen i see it again (hopefully tomorrow) and i can see the individual details i'll hopefully be able to give a more detailed review thingy.
bibi
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ponderwithjmill
Nov 18 2005, 09:00 PM
All together the movie was amazing. It had wonderful effects and was put together brilliantly. I still havent warmed into Michael Gambon playing Dumbledore--it's just not the same. Voldemorts return was put together very well but some of the things he said made it seem much different than expected. I enjoyed every Weasley in this film-- their humor really brings the movies alive. It was made obvious very early in the film that Mad Eye Moody was really Barty Crouch Jr and that was my main problem with the film. But brilliant, amazing, great effects, excellent actors, and hillarious moments will sum this film up just fine for me!
ktg106
Nov 18 2005, 09:02 PM
finally i have people to talk about the film with - i saw it on the 6th at the world premier in london and since then ive wanted to say "oh i love this.... i loved that....." but i didnt want to spoil it for anyone - and to be honest no one really seemed that interested
but anyway - i totally loved the film - i just thought that maybe it could have been longer, just to squeeze a few more bits in - like a longer yule ball scene
cedrics death i thought was so sad - well not actually the death bit, it was a bit quick, but when they got back to hogwarts and harry started crying and when cedrics dad came running from the stands shouting "my boy" it really got me - and i have to admit, i creid
i loved neville in this and when he said "oh my god i killed harry potter" totally cracked me up
and as usual i loved ron - like when ginny was explaining how he had asked fleur to the ball - bless him - and when, in his mind, making up the whole "seamus told ron that dean was told by parvati that hagrid looking for harry" in his mind he thought he was helping harry with the first task
i loved it all!!
one thing though - did anyone else think that voldemort's voice was very dumbledoreish??? or was that just me??
Anduril
Nov 18 2005, 09:05 PM
Sorry about that last one I was just really ticked off. I know people say that if a movie is to long you'll lose the audience. I do not agree. Even if they had made this movie just 30-60 mins. longer every Potter fan, who is really a fan, will see it through. I saw it at a special 11:59 showing last night and was exteremly displeased for all of the reasons that have been mentioned beforehand. So if they had just made it a half-hour or so longer I might have been satisfied. But Noooo, al directors these days (except of course the wonderful Peter Jackson) think that if a movie is more than two hours long that is enough. Look at the three top award winning movies: Ben Hur, Titanic, and The Lord of the Rings the Return of the King, all three of these movie were really long and look where it got them. I am 99% sure that if they had just added more minutes to GoF it would have pleased every Potter fan around the world.
theodore_nott_fan
Nov 18 2005, 09:09 PM
I LOVED Neville in this movie. He was so adorable! *Squees* And it was so sad when he was thinking of his parents during and after the D.A.D.A class when Moody had showed them the Unforgivable Curses. I just wanted to wrap my arms around him and comfort him. So cute and brave he is. <3 <3 <3 And hot and delectable... erm, sorry, I'm losing my train of thought there... XD
I loved it when he was practicing his dance moves before the Yule Ball (even though it went entirely away from canon) and when he and Ginny were shown dancing (I think they were shown twice, once slow-dancing), my reaction was "awww!!". Lol. It was very sweet.
I also liked the fact that Ginny was given a lot more lines (probably more than all the other movies combined, lol) and was shown much more often. Her lines were funny, and I think Bonnie's perfect for the role. And, if she's in the next few movies, I can't wait to see her role grow even more.
Calypso Fern
Nov 18 2005, 09:26 PM
I honestly can't believe that so many people are satisfied by this movie. It has no deeper meaning, which I would have thought would have been important to some people. How can you say this is good except for "a few tiny things"?!?! Jeez, I know they couldn't have put EVERYTHING from the books in the movie, but they completely left out some of the most important parts of the entire series!!! Not to mention that the acting was, to put it lightly, absolutely abysmal and entirely forced. For God's sake, people LAUGHED in the theater at parts that were supposed to be completely serious! I guess people are just so blinded by their love of the characters and the actors that they can't recognize horrible acting when they see it. Has anyone even read the books?! I felt I was watching a movie based on an entirely different series!
Obviously no one read my previous post, so I will repeat some of the said things that are wrong with this movie.
No Cornelius Fudge and The Parting of the Ways. No Snape being sent on his mission, nor Hagrid. No Bellatrix. No S.P.E.W. (which some people find inconsequential, but which is actually an important part of Hermione's developing character). Barty Crouch, Jr. is revealed at the very beginning of the movie. Psychotic Dumbledore. No Quidditch World Cup.
Anyone who says this movie is "wonderful, perfect, so awesome OMG OMG I'm gonna see it 20 more times it's the best everrrr" is not a true fan of the book or is too...something to discern its deeper meaning and recognize that this movie was clearly made to be a blockbuster and "appeal to the masses", which I don't respect in the least bit.
Oh, and I just love how people are like "don't be biased by the books..." BIASED?!?! The movie is completely wrong! How can true HP fans accept that and say that it's the best movie ever???? Wow, I am so disappointed/frustrated. This movie needs to be redone, haha.
~Calypso~
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acciosnuffles
Nov 18 2005, 09:37 PM
OH I absolutely loved it. I already seen it twice and going for a thrid tonight. Yes, there were quite a few changes to the story and a whole lot cut out, but I thought it was brilliant. By far my favorite of the four. Ron is sooo goood, but I have absolutely fallen in love with Neville. They made he character appeal so much more to me. Him having the guts to be the first to stand up and dance, oh I love him. But overally I was satisfied!.....so now what is next HP wise????
sev's_pet_muggle
Nov 18 2005, 09:42 PM
POSITIVELY, ABOLUTELY, UNDENIABLY, INEXPLICBLY, BRILLIANT!
I laughed sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hard! Dan's hair is like, totally wicked!
but, my favorite by FAR part of the movie i saw last night at midnight in my awsome HP costume was the part when harry and ron are talking in study hall or whatever and snape repeatedly hits them on the head!!!!!
I thought i would burst, i laughed and laughed!
Congrats to Emma, Rupert., Dan and Alan for their SPECTACULAR performance!!!!!!!
hpfreak__014
Nov 18 2005, 09:45 PM
OH. MY. GOD. the movie was AMAZING. to all of you that thought it didn't stay true to the book then you disgust me. sorry to come across so bluntly, but its true...! this director did an AMAZING job of cutting the unimportant stuff out (well it is all important... but you get what i mean!!) ... other than that the acting was amazingly better than before -- dan actually sounded convincing when he was crying (unlike the 3rd movie...!)! GOSH i dont know - words do not even begin explain how relieved/satisfied i am with Goblet of Fire. =)
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well... i just read calypso's comment... and you pretty much disgust me. how can you say it was that awefull? sure, it didnt cover every single detail in the book but if they im sure someone like you would still be complaining... not to mention it would have like 2 parts to it and waaay too long.
Well we all have our opinions but it infuriates me how people continue to trash the best installment of the movie serious yet! and even if you disagree with me, then that's fine - it isn't going to change my opinion of the movie, as I'm sure my opinion wont change some people's... but to sum it all up, in my opinion, it was the best yet... and you can't please everyone.