After reading OotP, did anyone else want to just give Neville a hug? I know when I was reading it and he was on the ward during christmas, I started crying when his mom gave him the gum wrapper and he kept it. I cannot even image how terrible that would be to experience. And when harry said that people shouldn't feel sorry for him. they should feel sorry for Neville, well, i wanted to cry again. He fought so bravely at the MoM, I hope he personally is responsible for the Lestranges downfall. I think he could successfully do the crustacious curse on Bellatrix if he really wanted to

I felt sorry for neville as well and i was crying to that was sooooo sad

Yeah, you can't help but feel sorry for Neville... he's had an extremely difficult life.

*huggles Neville* Poor darling. I don't think he knows how much everybody loves him. I'm sure even Malfoy loves him a bit.

Maybe deep, deep down snape does also!

I wish, then Snape could ease up on him in Potions. I think that if more people knew about Neville's parents, they WOULD feel more sorry for him and be more friendly towards him, but he never tells anybody about his parents so many of them don't know about it.

I was quite weepy throughout OotP for him, as well. I LOVE NEVILLE!!!

I think he might be sort of ashamed and embarrased of his parents, especially if he didn't know what made them "crazy" It would be hard to tell people that his parents are permantly on a hospital ward because they are crazy.

I don't think he's ashamed or embarrassed. I think he just doesn't want to bring it up because it would make him look like, I don't know, like he's an attention-craver (which, obviously, he is not).

Actually, I think he doesn't mention it because he's proud of how they fought. He just doesn't want to parade around the fact that his parents were tortured to insanity by the Cruciatus Curse.

Well based on how Snape treats Harry, I don't think he believes in being easy on people just because they've had bad experiences.

I love Neville. Poor little guy! My eyes are watering right now just thinking about how much he's gone through. *gives Neville a huge hug* I was crying my eyes out when I found out about his parents.

I wasn't, but I was close to having a heart attack.

Did anyone else want to rip apart the OotP book for Neville, too? I sure did--thank goodness I didn't, otherwise I'd have missed the part where he shows how brave he is in the DoM.

I think Harry and him will become much closer after everything they share. Does anyone think he will tell Neville about the prophecy?

HE BETTER!!! I'll murder Harry if he doesn't!

Except he's not real, so that will be rather hard to do. Well, he should anyway! Neville's obviously heavily involved in the story now, and Harry... well, what can I say? It's Harry. He'll tell Neville.

All through the books, I just kept thinking, this poor boy tries so hard, yet know one gives him a chance. I think its very cute the way he tries to be brave, but also unfair how its him who seems to cause some sort of chaos. I dont know if Harry will tell Neville about the prophecy, since it is about Harry. Maybe once Harry gets over the shock of everything that happened in OoP, he'll open up to Neville some more.

I think opening up to Neville will be inevitable. He's a key part of the story now, I think.

I think Neville needs a hug occasionally, too. Living with his over-protective, over-whatever grandma who keeps saying he's not as good as his father and mother must be very hard. I think 5 years away from grandma has helped Neville a lot (though Snape does not help...)

And now that he's joined DA and has a battle at the DoM (he was the only kid beside Harry till the end) under his belt, his confidence should only increase. And like Harry he's showing definite aptitude for DADA... Maybe he's like his father after all....

I absolutely love Neville - he's so sweet. I can't remember which book it was in, but I remember a scene where Neville's really upset after just being bullied by Malfoy and Harry, Ron and Hermione are trying to comfort him, telling him that he's worth ten Malfoys - the way he picks at the chocolate frog with that sad kind of smile on his face. And the way he collects those gum wrappers from his mother..It breaks your heart to think about everything that's happened to him and how hard he tries!!

I don't really think his gran's over-protectiveness is out of place though. It must be horrific to see what's been done to her own son and daughter-in-law and she must be absolutely terrified of the same thing happening to what I presume is her only grandchild. I'd probably be overprotective too in her shoes.

We'll be hearing a lot more from Neville, and his granny....

I also agree that his gran's protectiveness is out of place, but at the same time I think its doing him more harm than good at times. I think she wants him to remember how brave his father was, but at the same time she makes him feel worse about his own abilities.

SPOILER.....You have been warned!!!












Points well taken....

I suppose when there's THAT much pressure on anyone, it would make them nervous. Neville's cracking under the strain of trying to live up to his father because of his gran, and Harry's beginning to crack under the strain of trying to impress Sirius that he is as good as his father in OoTP....

Then look what happened to Sirius.....

Maybe, when Harry begins to emerge from his grief in the next book, he'll be stronger for it. Perhaps Trelawney's prediction in PoA was accurate after all....Maybe Neville needs to come out from beneath his gran's shadow to shine too......

I think Neville wants to chance to prove himself, but he doesn't because he isn't an attention seeking prat. I really like Neville's character, he's so sweet. I bet Harry never would have thought he could have so much in common with Neville, if Dumbledore hadn't told him about the prophecy..imagine what things would have been like if Voldemort chose Neville instead of Harry.. the series would have been called.. "Neville Longbottom & the Sorcerors/Philosophers Stone", "Neville Longbottom & the Chamber of Secrets" ....lol, you get the point right? Somehow I think Harry Potter fits the titles better..hah. Well, when I read the chapter "Christmas on a Closed Ward" in OotP, I was nearly in tears! Bleh! It was just so heart wrenching!..*jerks a tear*..

Thats one of my favorite chapters in the book. And while I love Hermione and Ron, I think Neville may become one of Harry's greatest allies. I mean, look at how much better he became in just one year with a little bit of confidence. And the bravery he showed in the MoM, fighting bravely next to harry the whole time. Plus, think of how much better he will be now that he will have his own wand and not his father's old one.

Whoa! I completely forgot about Neville's wand! That could explain why he was only good at Herbology until book five... I also agree about Neville becoming one of Harry's greatest allies. He knows about Sirius now, too... Not the entire story, of course, but he will demand some explaining from Harry (or Ron or Hermione), no doubt.

And I'm sure after what happened at the MoM, seeing that he can be a trusted allie, and knowing that his parents were in the original Order, I'm sure he will find out, at least I hope so.

I hope Neville is another more signifigant character in the book. He is sooo adorable, and has anyone noticed how much hotter he's gotten in movie 3? I know i did

Let´s hope Neville play a great part in the next books, I think everything her grandma does, the overprotection and all that would make him stronger, and that is going to cause some kind of anger that he will want to defende and fight again Bellatrix, for all the damage she cause to his parents!
But about him getting hotter in the third movie!!!
He´s definetly not the way I like guys but if you said so...... let´s leave it like that.
The only thing I saw in him, is that he is not fat, comparing to the last movies.

I'm so very proud of Neville at the end of OotP...the way he fought bravely beside Harry...now we know that Sorting Hat had done a terrific job at placing him in Gryffindor which stand out for bravery...

Quote from OotP :

" You are not in a position to bargain, Potter," said Lucius Malfoy, his pale face flushed with pleasure. " You see, there are ten of us and one of you...or hasn't Dumbledore ever taught you how to count?"

"He's dot alone!" shouted a voice from above them. "He's still god be!"

Harry's heart sank: Neville was scrambling down the stone benches towards them, Hermione's wand held fast in his trembling hand.

"Neville - no - go back to Ron -"

"STUBEFY!" Neville shouted, pointing his wand at each Death Eater in turn. "STUBEFY! STUBE -"


Oooo...I can't carry on...

He obviously can't say the spell properly with his bleeding nose...but he still insist on it, still stand firm beside Harry....does that count as pure bravery or pure dumb???

Well, i think most acts of bravery do require a bit of stupidity, but we tend to overlook that. I hate when people draw parallels between Neville and wormtail. If that were the truth, we wouldn't have to read the rest of the books, we would know that Neville would betray harry, but I highly doubt that. He is just too loyal

That bit in the hospital with the gum wrapper........it completely broke my heart....both my mother and my boyfriend's mother have had to spend time in mental hospitals, thankfuly my mother's better now, but my boyfriend's mother's badly schitzophrenic....it's so heartbreaking to see such a wonderful, caring, intelligent woman, reduced to....once, we visited her when I was pregnant, and she handed me a paper tissue folded like a hat, and said it was for the baby, and then started to go off on this imaginary rant about how once Ian and his brothers *he has none* were lost in the snow when they were babies and.....the bit with the gum wrapper reminded me so badly of that....

I'll admit, I was never overly caring about Neville, until that happened to me....I know how he feels, the boy needs a mutitude of hugs...

I'm really sorry to hear about your mother and your boyfriends mother, that must be really difficult and it breaks my heart to hear.

*smiles* Thanks...I wasn't actually angling for sympathy there, I'm kinda used to it now, I just meant like....it's amazing how bits like that can really...get to you, y'know?

I guess that's the power of a good writer...having the ability to touch something within their readers. If it was badly written, maybe it wouldn't have had the same effect. I think you have to be able to relate to a book or some characters in some way, to make it speak to you, you know? But it is hard to read some things sometimes...sometimes you don't mind so much 'cos it makes you empathise with the characters....and sometimes, you just have to put the book down.....

It's a very tough subject to be dealing with...

Yeah, Christmas in the Closed Ward was really heartbreaking (I couldn't stop crying...). I think that Neville is really starting to come into his own, and despite his difficulties at first, I think he's going to be an integral part of the next two books. Honestly, I'm not totally sure that Harry is going to be able to do it without him..

I think that it's possible that Neville's grandmum is actually trying to belittle him into thinking he's no good.... maybe cause she wants to protect him from LV... after all, her son or daughter (I'm not sure whose mother she is) was extremely talented and successful as an auror... and they got tortured under the crucius curse and lost their minds... surely she wouldn't want the same future for Neville...

Yeah...if Voldy hadn't chose Harry as his equal (from the prophecy)...Neville could easily be the one who had to shoulder all the burden...

I think Neville will want to help Harry even more after he heard about the propechy....because of sheer luck he had not been chosen...

knowing what neville is going through, and seeing him being made fun of by malfoy, snape, and others really pisses me off. but it was how jk rowling made him go through before the fifth book, which made me sorta of...i dont know, ignore neville i guess.

i dont think he would want to explain to people the fact that his parents are in a mental hospital, because it's just to painful to tell. not because it's embaressing, ashamed, keeping up with his social status, or anything like that. i think he's rather proud that his parents were professional aurors that went against voldemort. this makes me hate bellatrix even more.

i had a hard time rereading through that end of the chapter. it nearly broke my heart knowing neville has parents that cant spend time with or talk to.

You guys should all see what I posted about Neville here, you might like the idea.

Don't worry, Neville's really coming into his own now. He'll show everyone how brilliant a wizard he really is just like his parents were. And he'll get that piece of vermin Bellatrix Lestrange back too.

neville ahhhhhh what a cuty yes he does need a hug but i think he will become a powerful wizard with his new wand he will become as good as herm,one i think go neville yeah.

Ohh I know! I wanted to give him a biiiiiiiiiig hug and comfort him somehow. I also wanted to give Harry a hug! But Neville. . .I just felt so many different things for him. I can't help but grow very fond of him and what he has contributed to the story. Awww. . .poor Neville! It was so sad when his mom gave him the gum wrapper and he said, "Thanks, Mom. . ."

yes i did feel bad for poor neville

he doesnt have the best grades and the most power of anyone in the whole school. but i think he is one of the bravest. (im sure he gets that from his mom and dad)

I absolutely love Neville. That chapter was probably my favorite part of the whole series, because it really touched me. I felt so sorry for Neville and what he must have been feeling. The way he gave them a look as if, as Harry puts it, "daring any of them to laugh", and Harry was thinking he hadnt seen anything less funny in his life. I was crying at that part. And the gum wrapper, and how Harry swears he sees Neville put it in his pocket. That was just so...sad.

I would give Neville a billion hugs if I ever met him. I dont know what I would do if I had to deal with something like that in my life.

ACtually, I do want to give him a hug despite the fact that he might suddenly blast my pants off with his charmwork . Anyone who's parents have died or can't recognise them needs a hug. In fact, I would want a hug if I lost my parents too. I really can't imagine what I would do if my parents had died or can't recognise me.

yeah, I totally wanted to give Neville a hug. After all that, and having them see his parents at the Ministry, and his overprotective and strict grandmother, he's got to be feeling at least a little down. ~*hugs and warm fuzzies to Neville*~

Poor Neville,he is such a nice person in the whole film,and i think Harry should hug with Neville in the upcomming film

I agree!!!! Neville does need a hug and someone to love him no matter what......yea his granny loves him ,but she always mensions how he isn't as good as his parents at magic.....i feel so bad for him and i think that he needs someone to say "Neville i hope you never change i love you"

sorry i was getting way to soapy there.....hehe

Yeah and we all think just harry has had a rough life...but in fact neville has had it maybe even harder. harry's parents were killed...nevilles were tortued. in a way i think that's worse because they suffered and at least harry's parents did not. neville has had a very sad and depressing past and seeing him there that day at the hospital made me remember what his parents had gone through and how they will never be whole or the same again. i think in certain ways neville has had it harder and worse than harry has in life...he definetley needs a big hug and possibly a few kisses from the ones who love him. at least he has his grandma.

Neville is a tragic figure and he has some very bad experiences, but he seems to deal with it and this makes me very proud about him!

Of course you cant help but feel sorry for poor little Neville. hes such the under dog...I agree with alkisti about how he deals with the world despite whats going on in his life. He doesnt seem to be to bad considering. i felt sorry for him though in GoF when he wathced the cruciatus curse. how traumatizing...(was that in the book?)
I would most deffently give Neville a hug!
*hugs*

In some ways, I think Neville has had it harder than Harry has. They certainly have had a hard life - both mistreated by their families (although Neville's would probably say not, but I think what Neville has had could be called "emotional abuse"...certainly being hung out a window and then dropped is abuse!).

I thought Neville was played very beautifully in Goblet of Fire, even if we didn't really know why the Crucio scene was so important. I think OotP is going to be very heart wrenching. I find Neville to be a very tragic character, and was so impressed by the way JKR handled him in OotP. I just hope he gets that on-screen...although it does seem likely with Neville appearing more in GoF.

Neville =

Yes i know what you mean. when his mum gave him the gum rapper and his granny told him to throw it away, he put it in his pocket which means that even though its only a gum wrapper, because his mum gave it to him its precious to him.
Yes, he did fight really well at the MOM, he tryed so hard even though he knows that he isnt that great at charms, he tryed his hardest. I hope he kills the Lestranges, after what they did to his parents, he deserves it, after all, they have totally ruined nevilles life as well as his parents. its also quite hard for neville because his granny doesnt really appreciate him for who he is, shed much rather have harry as a grandson.