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Rocknrule
Besides the obvious sexual advances on Harry that Rita and Myrtle took, did anyone else notice that this movie is FULL of "hint hint, huhuhuh he said..." moments? Like when Hermione said that Victor is a "physical" person and when Cedric told Harry to take a bath. Or when Ron was checking out the Beauxbatons' girls from behind. Any others?
Nimbus
I don't think any of those are really innuendos. I mean to be an innuendo isn't it suppose to be somewhat or a side remark that is said in regular conversation but is meant to have a hidden sexual conotation? All the ones you listed were pretty straight forward, I think. The only one that might be an innuendo is the "physical being" thing Hermione says, but she realizes that it could be taken as an innuendo right away and corrects herself. So ya, I dont really think there were any in the movie.
cnguye5
They were trying to cater to the adult crowd, but it's not subtle enough like it is in Shrek. My seven-year-old cousin asked me about the physical thing and I was like "uh...." lol. I do appreciate that they are making the movies with adults in mind.
Be||atrix
I've got some:

"(Moody looks down)Does it hurt? That? Let me take a look at it."

"I'll show you mine if you show me yours."

Hagrid placing his hand on Madam Maxine's butt.

Cedric lying down on his male classmate's lap.

Harry brushing the dirt off of Cedric's shirt in the maze after he helped him escape the vines.

Darth_Oz
Rocknrule, let me be frank - there wasn't a straight guy or a gay girl in the cinema who wasn't checking out the behinds of the Beaxbatons girls! And Hermione did qualify her statement about Krum immediately - the big thing was that she said "It's a bit frustrating actually"

The flirty thing with Skeeta and Harry was genius - I really fancy Miranda Richardson though so that may just be me! biggrin.gif

Obviously things will get a little more adult from here on in but I don't think they went too overboard.
Slaine mac Roth
Of course things are going to get a little more adult from now on in. The one thing that both the films and the books have done is to try and tailor the material to the reletive ages of the characters. Therefore, now they are well into the onset of puberty, this will become more apparent as well as the audience, if they are keeping pace, noticing more.

By the way Darth, I completely agree with you about the Beauxbatons girls. My wife found it quite amusing.
Rockgirl89
Rocknrule, I noticed that too...I think Rita's one was inappropriate!My God she's an adult!I think that was just a way to get more nformations... wink.gif


















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AQHYAgrl
QUOTE (Be||atrix @ Dec 24 2005, 12:36 AM)

Harry brushing the dirt off of Cedric's shirt in the maze after he helped him escape the vines.

I do not think this was an innuendo in any way shape or form. He was helping his friend up and making sure he was alright. In fact, I find it a bit offensive and downright yucky that anyone would even suggest what that might be.

The others I can understand, but like Solo said, everything was pretty strait forward. I thought the thing with Rita was a bit innapropriate too... my mom and I really disliked Rita after that scene.
hermione109
QUOTE (Be||atrix @ Dec 24 2005, 12:36 AM)
I've got some:

"(Moody looks down)Does it hurt? That? Let me take a look at it."

"I'll show you mine if you show me yours."

Hagrid placing his hand on Madam Maxine's butt.

Cedric lying down on his male classmate's lap.

Harry brushing the dirt off of Cedric's shirt in the maze after he helped him escape the vines.

YES! I did notice all of those things that you just explained here. At first I did not notice them, but now I DO remember those certain things being in the fourth movie. That is something to question about. WHY? I wonder why they would put things like this. I`m not sure to why though.
Just the Droobles
QUOTE
I've got some:

"(Moody looks down)Does it hurt? That? Let me take a look at it."

"I'll show you mine if you show me yours."

Hagrid placing his hand on Madam Maxine's butt.

Cedric lying down on his male classmate's lap.

Harry brushing the dirt off of Cedric's shirt in the maze after he helped him escape the vines.


OK, the first one? I thought he was looking at his arm. At least that's the scene I'm remembering. Moody after all was standing, so Harry's arm would've been down. I dunno. I figured no one else would think something other than his arm, if I am even thinking of the right scene.(Correct me if I'm not.)

I don't even remember anyone saying "I'll show you mine..." When was that? Anyone know?

I don't think the classmate's lap is too much of a problem. If it was a girl (because I don't remember specific details of this movie as you can tell) he probably was good friends with her, or maybe they liked each other. I don't think that is incredibly sexual. But hey, I might just be a little more leniant on that stuff. smile.gif
squims
'Just the Droobles', you're right about the 'hurt' thing. The scene being talked about is the one you mentioned, and I definitely didn't think that it could mean anything else but Harry's arm. It's quite perverted to think otherwise. And I didn't notice Cedric lying on someone's lap. He was lying on a stome bench, but I'm not sure if his head was resting on someone's lap. And Hagrid grasping Maxime's backside had me roaring with laughter. That was well done. And like someone said, all guys checked out the Beaubaton girls' backsides, inclusive of myself.

About the "I'll show you mine, if you show me yours." My immediate thought was that Barty Jr. was referring to the Dark Mark on Snape's hand, but it supposedly meant Harry's wound...still don't understand why that dialogue was even there in the film.

And what's with this Rita scene that everyone is talking about? I have absolutely no idea which bit everyone's referring to. Please enlighten me!
DarkMark13
I think I saw Fluer sneaking off with someone into the bushes during one of the scenes!!!! That's major innuendo right there!!!!
ILoveHarryPotter07
The rita scene that they're talking about is the one of the interview in the broom closet. And the Moaning Murtle thing..definant inuendo there. But what about in the book the people that do get caught sneeking off into the bushes...that wasn't in the movie was it??
It does have inuendo in it though....but it makes it that much funnier.
crissyanthemum
QUOTE (DarkMark13 @ Feb 19 2006, 02:35 AM)
I think I saw Fluer sneaking off with someone into the bushes during one of the scenes!!!! That's major innuendo right there!!!!

Where did you see this? Or are you just pulling our leg?
joeyjoejoe
I don't remember in the movie, but in the book, It said Roger and Fleur were in a rosebush nearby, and that they looked "very busy" to Harry. Wow, that is major innuendo in a children's book! Nudge Nudge, nod nod, wink wink, saynomore saynomore... And when Ron is blibbering to the Gryffindor girls about how Fleur dumped him, you can hear him talking about how he likes the Beauxbatons girls, and I distinctly heard him say something about behinds. Intresting. wink.gif
Peyton
Yeah, I do remember that from the book. It was pretty a ..wow.. think to put in a "children's" book. I don't remember it being the movie though. I don;tt hink it was in there.

"I've got some:
"(Moody looks down)Does it hurt? That? Let me take a look at it."
"I'll show you mine if you show me yours."
Hagrid placing his hand on Madam Maxine's butt.
Cedric lying down on his male classmate's lap.
Harry brushing the dirt off of Cedric's shirt in the maze after he helped him escape the vines."


None of those are meant to be innuendos, except for the Hagrid/MM thing, as Just the Droobles described well.
El Barto
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Cedric lying down on his male classmate's lap


To me it looked like he was laying flat on the bench or whatever it was, then when Harry came he lifted his head up...from the camera angle if someone wasn't really looking hard enough it would look as if he were resting his head on his male friend's lap...of course I only looked closer when you guys mentioned it smile.gif

And when they're first told about the Yule Ball, you hear Ron saying something about "somethings about to burst out of_________ and I don't think its a swan" I didn't catch the name though...
ILoveHarryPotter07
Joey,
I noticed that too...he says somthing like "you know how I like when they walk"...and the Moaning Murtle scene!! I was laughing cause she was talking about Cedric..and saying how...all the bubbles were almost gone...lol..how creepy that some random dead girl that haunts toilets and overflows them is..like..spying while you bathe....lol
Courtney
Dumbledore's Widow
How about the scene where Voldemort puts his (filthy) foot on dead Cedric's face and says something like, "what a handsome boy" (or something to this effect). I wondered at the time, why he would say such a thing. Worse, why wasn't it deleted? It didn't add anything to the scene for me. We all know that Voldemort is lower than the dirt on the bottom of our shoes. So, why keep it in?
Just the Droobles
I don't think that line was meant as an innuendo like "Gee, he was actually pretty good-looking. Maybe I should've kept him alive..." More of insulting thing I think actually. And he was putting his feet on a dead boy's face...that is not very respectful...and as we know, Voldemort is pretty scummy, so I would expect nothing less than scum from a less than scummy guy.
El Barto
Call me crazy, but I found yet another innuendo. When Ron had just tried to ask Fleur to the Yule Ball, they're sitting in the common room and Parvati and Padma walk by and say hi to Harry. Right before he realizes this opportunity to get a date, you can hear Ron (Rupert) saying "I've always just looked at them from behind" or something like that. In the context it was in, I thought it was an innuendo though I could be wrong.

Oh yea, when Dumbledore is addressing everyone about the last task, and the camera is focused on him, in the background you can see the actor playing Karkaroff's doing something to Krum's character...like he's stroking his back or something...
HermioneClone
Yep. Maybe the one with the Patil sisters was innuendo. I really don't think there was anything meant sexually with the "I'll show you mine if you show me yours." I'm actually not sure what it means. But, yeah, the thing with Madame Maxime and Hagrid was obvious, and Hermione's part- "He's more of a physical being" wasn't exactly subtle, either.
joeyjoejoe
one that I noticed during the yule ball, was when Hermione came over to talk to Harry and Ron, Ron is rude, and Hermione says "What's got your wand in a knot?" Also, a pretty obvious one was when the Durmstrang student asks Parvati "May I take your arm?" She says "Arm? Leg? Whatever!" and runs off with him. hmmmmm..... I wonder why this was PG13 wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif
sirus blacks lovechild
i noticed another very subtle one in the broom closet with rita... when she goes "this is cozy" (surely THAT was quite enough innuendo for 1 scene...) harry goes "its a broom closet." then rita said "you should feel right at home then." i thought that was a bit...y'know because it's an implied thing, people go to broom closets to make-out and stuff.

another one that wasnt actually in the movie but it was in the deleted scenes on the dvd, and harry goes outside, there are some people kissing, and then there's this carriage thatis like...shaking, and then they show this guy telling harry to get lost, and after snape and karkaroff are talking, snape opens another carriage and these two people get out and snape docks house points.

i think ALL the scenes with hagrd and maxime had SOME kind of subtle innuendo if you look hard enough...
Just the Droobles
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harry goes "its a broom closet." then rita said "you should feel right at home then."
I do think that there was at least one innuendo, if not two in that scene, but I never thought of this as one of them. I took this to mean he would be used to broom closets because he used to live in one and stuff. Maybe not, but that's how I thought of it and I found that line particulayly hilarious.
felix_felicis_444
QUOTE (Just the Droobles @ Mar 30 2006, 12:11 AM)
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harry goes "its a broom closet." then rita said "you should feel right at home then."
I do think that there was at least one innuendo, if not two in that scene, but I never thought of this as one of them. I took this to mean he would be used to broom closets because he used to live in one and stuff. Maybe not, but that's how I thought of it and I found that line particulayly hilarious.

I agree with you, Droobles. Rita makes many sexual advancements on Harry in the movie....particularly in the scene in the broom closet....but I did not even think about the factor the "people make out in broom closets." Actually, I did not even realize that people made out in broom closets to begin with huh.gif lol

I interpreted Rita's comment to be that Harry has lived in a cupboard at the Dursley's house for most of his life, so a broom closet is no different. Perhaps you are correct, sirius blacks lovechild, but I feel that if the innuendo is so unclear that it has to be explained to people (and in that case, they do not find it funny), then it is not a very good innuendo wink.gif tongue.gif hehe....


Anyway, I love the innuendos in the movies because they obviously add comic relief. A little *hint hint* can only be funny, especially when you are so familiar with the characters and actors. And to those moviegoers who have not read the books, it finally gives them something to laugh about. Probably makes them feel like they actually understand something, finally! laugh.gif





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tskushi21
we all know who harry's gonna end up w/in book 6......there's no surprise there......and i would think everyone agree's that ron/hermione will end up 2gether in book 7....and as someone else already mentioned, the books are appropriate according to harry's age.....with that said:
1. "nothing sweet" reffering to cho
2. the beauxbaton girls
3. harry spitting out his pumpkin juice
4. madame maxine eating something from hagrid's beard wacko.gif
5. pravati "arm, leg, i'm yours"
6. harry's comment to ron that viktor had other reasons for being in the library besides books
7.hagrid's butt grab tongue.gif
8. obviously hermione's "physical being statement"
9. did anybody else notice those kids on the stairs during ron/hermione's argument?
10. moaning myrtle....no surprise!

what's w/all the gay suggestions? not that i care, but come on i'm sure cedric's straight.....don't we find out more details about him & cho in book 5? come on dry.gif i don't particularly agree w/the whole rita thing either......it's a bit of a stretch
Just the Droobles
3. harry spitting out his pumpkin juice
4. madame maxine eating something from hagrid's beard
9. did anybody else notice those kids on the stairs during ron/hermione's argument?


3. I think Harry spit out his pumpkin juice because he wasn't really expecting Cho to turn around and look at him. I think he was trying to smile at her without thinking and it all came pouring out. I don't even know how that would be an innuendo.

4. I think Madam Maxime eating something from his beard was just supposed to be a weird thing giants do. Well, in their case, half-giants. I don't really think that was an innuendo either.

9. No, didn't notice them. I thought they were just sitting there. I guess I'll have to check that out again.

Gay suggestions? Um...where were those? I don't recall seeing any. Someone thought they saw Cedric on a class mate's lap, but he really wasn't, it was just the camera angle. And the bath thing was in the book. Can you tell me where you're getting Gay suggestions?
sirus blacks lovechild
the thing with the broom closet was pointed out to me by a friend and it is now blaringly obvious every time i see that scene. but if it was refering to his living at the dursleys, how would rita know that he lived in the cupboard under the stairs?

and i think they DO make cedric out to be a little bit gay in the scene just after hermione saying viktor was a physical being and ced was coming to tell him about the bath, he's all "how-how are you?" then dans (harry) "Spectacular?" but the way the how are you was said... i thought twice about it, i must admit...
El Barto
Even if Cedric was gay, does it change who he was? Is he a completely different character now? In my opinion, if he is indeed homo-sexual, then I don't think it changes anything...only that it adds more diversity to the book and/or movies (what with half-giants, centaurs, goblins, "mud bloods", half-bloods, pure bloods, etc.).

I don't get how Rita saying what she did about Harry feeling right at home in the broom cupboard is an innuendo. Before that, when she asked if it was cozy, I can see being an innuendo.
sirus blacks lovechild
i agree, cedric being gay does add more diversiy, actually it would be funny, cause if gay cedric likes harry and harry likes cho who is going out with cedric, who likes harry...

hehehe i confuse myself tongue.gif
Just the Droobles
That scene between Harry and Cedric wasn't and innuendo unless you really want it to be one. A guy asking a guy how he's doing isn't gay, it's friendly. Cedric was trying to be nice. Harry's spectacular was sarcasm times 100. That would really be no different than saying fine. Cedric telling him to take a bath wasn't innuendo either. It was in the book and we know the meaning behind it. There's no sense in twisting a scene into something it isn't.
joeyjoejoe
I seriously doubt that any of the characters in Goblet of Fire or any Harry potter book are gay (although I do have my doubts about Draco Malfoy at times laugh.gif ). Anyway, none of the characters are gay, don't go reading into that too much.
Fenixong
I was personally a bit put off by all the overtones in the movie... the zoom on the Beauxbatons butts, the comment by Hermione about Victor, and Myrtle cozying up to Harry in the tub... what was that all about? I realize there are a couple places in the book that imply that some of the students may be kissing, but I didn't need all that junk. I personally thing Mike Newell evil.gif did a terrible job with this movie. First of all he talked the studio out of splitting the book into two movies... that would have been sweet! Turning Dumbledore into a grumpy old man with absolutely none of the goofyness or grandfatherly qualities that make him likeable... And then all the stupid sexual overtones! I thought the film was a poor adaptation of the book to say the least. A children's book that is made into a movie shouldn't have a PG-13 rating! mad2.gif
tuni
yeah i saw that scenes too,they really consist of ohh,ahh,em.but i think [itz] it's for now adults.after all character[z]s in this film was also in growin age.don't [u] you think [m] i'm [rite] right?


MOD EDIT: Netspeak agian... edited for you agian....
dkw
Hagrids butt grab definately, and my stomach turned when Rita and Harry go in the broom closet, I said to my son at the time 'Oh gosh, dont tell me they are going to have HER hitting on Harry, that would be too disgusting' As for Hermoine saying that Krum is a 'physical being', I think maybe she meant that in terms of he was a bit thick, since she is so academic, so couldnt really have a decent talk?
Amyrat151
I don't think Cedric saying "it's not a bad place for a bath," was innuendo, it's funny to think of it that way though. Slash is harmless. It's true that none of the characters are gay, but fannon can be a pretty awesome thing sometimes.
As for the other stuff, do we realise that Harry is 14 and not 11 anymore? I found the innuendo very funny, and kids grow up, they think about sex. And it's a sad but true fact that at 14 there are people even having sex. So, as long as Harry and Cho aren't doing it in the Quidditch locker room, it all seems pretty harmless to me.
joeyjoejoe
yeah, well i dont think sexual **** is exactly the most appropriate thing to put into a "children's movie" I mean, That sort of thing wasn't stated quite as bluntly in the book. I don't think Mike Newell's intention in the Rita scene was to make her look like a perv, but it sure came across that way. There are no gays that i have come across yet in Harry Potter, although, something could have gone on between Snape & Karkaroff if he didn't die in book 6. lol just kidding.
marrymerupert
Ooh my goodness, this topic is driving me crazy! Everyone keeps saying "they shouldn't have that in a childrens movie" and so on and so on... I am 18 years old, my brother is 21, and my mom is 46 and we all love Harry Potter, as do all of my cousins who are all over 17... it's not JUST a children's movie and just a children's book. When I was younger I never caught on to inuendo in movies, but I know that it made the movies enjoyable for the adults who had to watch them with me. I really don't think that many children would catch on to these things, and the ones who are old enough to catch on to it, sorry to disappoint you.. but if you know what they mean by sexual inuendo and understand it... it means that you know about sex and have thought about it before... so if they're already thinking about it, it doesn't matter if they make the movies a little more entertaining for adults by adding it into the movies. Half of the stuff mentioned in this post isnt even inuendo... it's just stuff people are taking wayyyy too far. Like Cedric's head resting on someone's leg (if it even was) so what! I rest my head on my friends legs all the time and I'm not a lesbian! I agree that a few things are inuendo... but inuendo is supposed to be subtle... and the "innuendo" that most people on this topin have posted so far... sorry to burst your bubble... is NOT inuendo! There's nothing wrong with the directors adding a bit of substance that can make the movies more enjoyable for the older audience... as there are quite a lot of us. The kids usually don't pick up on it anyways... and it won't scar them for life if they do, so stop worrying about it. It's NOT that big of a deal.
Amyrat151
marrymerupert, thank you.
I saw all the time that Harry Potter isn't just for little kids. I started reading the books when I was 15 and my love for them has grown since then. But back on topic, in PoA a 13 year old boy wants to kill someone, seriously kill them dead. I don't think that happens in many childern's books rolleyes.gif. And I think that well ajusted childern can handel the inneundo, that's actually inneundo and not taking something and twisting it so it is, with good humor. I did, I was wacthing Friends when I was 10, and I handeled it fine.
Spencer Potter
Wow sorry guys but I am way late on this one.

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"somethings about to burst out of_________ and I don't think its a swan"


It was Eloise Midgen, El Barto, lots of Innuendos but to be truthful Ced wasnt gay, because Cho and Ced were holding hands in the hallway and if he went to the Yule Ball dont you think he would of taken a man?
D.A
I completely agree with marrymerupert!

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Like Cedric's head resting on someone's leg (if it even was) so what! I rest my head on my friends legs all the time and I'm not a lesbian!


I do the same thing with my friends doesnt mean im a lesbian either! ohmy.gif
you also have to realise that the so called kids are growing up..so its not like their ever going to think about things!

like marrymerupert also said its not a big deal!

D.A happy.gif
Amyrat151
To add to what Spencer Potter said: Or have Cho as his cover well he talks and spends time alone with some boy. Gay kids at my high school did that all the time. But Cedric isn't gay, if he was I think that HP would be very differnt type of books.
JSB 073
Here are some... I guess?

Does it hurt? That? Let me take a look at it.
I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
Hagrid placing his hand on Madam Maxine's butt.
Cedric lying down on his male classmate's lap.
Harry brushing the dirt off of Cedric's shirt in the maze after he helped him escape the vines.
Bathtub scene.
When Hermione talks about Viktor being a "physical' being.... haha
marrymerupert
Wow, I thought this topic was long gone, but apparently people still don't know what innuendo means:

Dictionary.com has this as innuendo
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An indirect or subtle, usually derogatory implication in expression; an insinuation


So as for what JSB 073 has said:

Does it hurt? That? Let me take a look at it. (NOT innuendo, its not even remotely anything like that! He's friggin asking if Harry's leg hurts - this is exactly what I meant by people taking things waaaaaay out of context)
I'll show you mine if you show me yours. (once again, definately not innuendo. he was asking about the cut on harrys arm)
Hagrid placing his hand on Madam Maxine's butt. (if you read the definition of innuendo, you will see that it means subtle or indirect, which this is not. hagrid clearly places his hand on her behind, so its not innuendo, he just does it. and really its not that big of a deal, that is seen in everyday society! people walking down the streets have their hands on each others butts, not a huge deal - but again - NOT innuendo)
Cedric lying down on his male classmate's lap. (this is just absolutely ridiculous. Cedirc is extremely popular so his friends probably do anything to please him and treat him like a king. by letting cedric lay on his leg, his friend was almost treating him like royalty. and i rest my heads on my friends legs all the time and it means NOTHING!)
Harry brushing the dirt off of Cedric's shirt in the maze after he helped him escape the vines. (how exactly is this innuendo? cedric had dirt on his shirt so harry wiped it off... nothing sexual about it... he was being a nice person and wiping dirt off of him... you guys are crazy to think that that is somehow innuendo)
Bathtub scene. (myrtle is a little perverted yes... but this scene really isn't that bad... yes i agree she hints at looking at his thing and stuff... but this is one thing through-out the whole movie, and no kid would ever pick up on that unless they already knew what it meant - in which case its not that big of a deal)
When Hermione talks about Viktor being a "physical' being.... (again, not innuendo. hermione explains that she meant he likes to stare at her a lot of something... nothing about kissing or touching or anything dirty.)

overall, i think all the people who see these things as innuendo have very dirty minds and i can see the same people thinking things in disney movies are innuendo. before you start throwing words around maybe you should find out what they mean first.
D.A
Hmm i think ive already posted on this topic but i guess ill post again!

marrymerupert is completely right, nothing in the film was remotely innuendo.
and also something id like to ask was cedrics head even resting on his friends i thought his friend was just sitting next to him and it looked like he was resting on his lap?!
But even if he was it really does not make him gay!! dry.gif

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D.A
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