What does everyone think of Snape's behaviour in the Goblet of Fire film???

I'm especially interested in the scene at the end with Barty Crouch Jnr.... with the wand poking into his face!!! Snape looks angry but maybe this is because Barty failed to kill Harry...

Ideas are welcome...

First of all, as much as I like Snape's character, I must admit that the movie was different than the book and I'm not sure if I should draw some valid conclusions of them movie.

I thought that they made Snape a person who manipulates events. Remember how LV asked crouch Jr to gather older allies? And then there's the scene with DD counselling Minerva and Severus what to do, if to allow Potter to take part in the tournament or not. McGonagall doesn't want Harry in the tournament, Snape suggests that Harry should participate. DD agrees with Sev and asks Crouch to take care about Harry. It's constructed in this way that we should think Snape's a manipulator.

On the other hand, Snape aims his wand at Crouch, looking as if he hated him. When we assume his LV's spy, it makes no sense for me because there isn't DD in the room. But I don't know if I should draw conclusions because of the fragment, because there wasn't such a part in the book, as well as there wasn't manipulating Snape and DD counselling.

This is a good point, JKR herself has said that the movies do give away clues sometimes so you never know. He also did the same thing to Sirius though, he got his wand right up to his neck and i'm sure he doesn't do that in the book so, I think its a good point. Is it something the director just added in or something JKR has mentioned herself to the screenplay writer. She might give away some clues, you never know, even if she isn't giving the total story away.

Yeah I do agree but on reflection I wonder how much we can read into Snape's behaviour, especially when the scene was added with Snape slapping the back of Harry and Ron's heads for the comedy effect....

yes but this wasn't added for comedy effect, this is a good point, because either Snape could be angry with him because he blew his cover or angry because he really hates him because he's a death eater. I find it odd that he gets so angry towards people like Barty Crouch Jr and Sirius, I mean I know why he was mad at Sirius, thats coz he hated him in school anyway. I don't think this was just added for effect though! I just wonder if he's just like that as a person, whether there is some reason or if your right, it was just added for effect, but its a good theory in my opinion !

I think Snape had such a tiny role in the movie. He is one of the most important characters in the series, and he has like 5 lines in GoF. It was funny how he hitted Ron and Harry but he shouldnt be the comic relief in the movie.
I loved the scene between him and Harry (the Veritaserum stuff) and i wish there was more Snape-scenes like that. Not just the brutal Snape hitting poor kids scene.

Hear hear.

Before I went to see GoF, I inventoried the Snape scenes in the previous films and came to the following conclusions:

Considering how little time Alan Rickman actually has on screen – only a few minutes in total – it is remarkable how big an impact his presence in the films does manage to make. Everybody wants to see more! But this too is true to the books: JKR keeps the character aloof, sinister, under-exposed and mysterious.

In GoF, we’ll probably see even less of him. There are only a few scenes in the book: the Potions lesson when Karkaroff comes in and desperately wants to talk to Snape about his Dark Mark, Snape’s office break-in at night, Snape delaying Harry in front of entrance to the Headmaster’s office. Of these, the first two cannot possibly be cut out of the film, they are too crucial to the plot. The third will probably fall to the condensation of the story.

Now that I've seen GoF I can say the following:

I regret losing the first two scenes I mentioned, particularly the confrontation between Snape and Moody. I can understand why the filmmakers decided to change the story the way they did: they wanted to leave out complexities that would take a long time to explain like the Marauder's Map, without which Harry's nighttime search for Barty Crouch in the castle would not have happened, ergo in the film he did not know that Barty Crouch was prowling around when he was supposed to be away (of course he thought it was Crouch Senior then). The film plot was simplified to Crouch not being absent at all, Percy never having replaced him, and by hinting at the Polyjuice Potion by making Moody drink from his hip flask constantly.

But the filmmakers still needed to make the Boomslang connection. So they invented a new scene in Snape's store-room (a lovely visualisation of those stores by the way!) in which Snape voices his suspicions talking to Harry directly. Much as I regret not seeing the original scenes, I think the scene we got in their place was very well done.

Snape's actions in the library has no basis in the book, it was just a little bonus added to the story of the boys' trouble getting dates and Ron's insensitive remark to Hermione. I don't think that it was out of character for Snape to give them a whack on the head when SILENCE is required after all, and I liked it when he snatched Hermione's book away, nice touch.
Yes, it's a pity that Snape doesn't have more lines when you soooooo love to hear that voice. But it's all part and parcel of the deal.

snape in GoF (and in every single HP movie actually), wot can i say? weeeelllllll, he's sexy.

alan rickman IS snape personafied. he lacks screentime honestly, but its alright, its just cos its not HIS time to errrr fully shine (we'll have HBP and the 7th movie for that, and well, in OotP there are occlumency bits in there so ) but honestly he's perfect for the role. i didnt imagine seeing snape as a funny prof. too, watching him press ron's and harry's faces down to their papers hehehe that was quite cute

if he'll ever read this...or someone should tell him, that 3 drops will do for veritaserum to take effect (he spilled almost all the contents of the tiny bottle to crouch jr.'s mouth!!! )

ps. the director/scriptwriters wanna keep snape being dumbledore's errr man a secret....dont they know that almost 3/4 of the peeps who saw the movie has read the books??? theyre crazzzyyy.

Is it just me, who thinks its really annoying that Snape says You Know Who? Its in the Veritaserum scene.
Shape never says YKW. He always uses The Dark Lord. This is important because that makes everybody even more suspicious about him. Is he still on Voldemort's side or not?

What do ya guys think?

Yes, it's annoying. It,s not a huge mistake, just a small goof by the scriptwriter (who does an excellent job overall, so I'm not terribly angry).

I'm surprised that Alan Rickman didn't pick up on it though, he does read the books (contrary to a certain other actor) and I've got the feeling that he really understands the character, he doesn't just reads lines. So he could have noticed that saying "You-Know-Who" is out of character. But he is pretty busy with other things and the part is small and not a big stretch for him, so perhaps he just didn't take much time to ponder over the lines.

I, also, love Rickman's performance as Snape. I found the barty crouch jr. confrontation scene to be most poignant. I felt that Snape showed the proper fear/interest in Barty Jr. in this scene, and while it seems he openly hates him (as it should seem to Hogwarts), who's to say Snape doesn't hate him even if they're on the same side? I really liked seeing this scene as Snape's character will continue to vascilate in the next movies. I'm mean, we're really, as a whole, not sure what to do with his character now given where the books have taken him. I think it was extremely well done.

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I think Snape had way too little screentime in Gof... I do love the scene where he smacks Harry and Ron in the head... and the scene where he shows Harry the Veritaserum. I though he almost looked spiderlike when he climbed the ladder in the veritaserum scene.
But Snape should have been given a lot more screen time...

It slightly bothered me too, when I heard You-Know-Who coming out of Snape's mouth. It just sounded strange, coming out of his character, as he's always saying the Dark Lord, and it made him sound like another common wizard, afraid of saying anything else. But hopefully he'll remember to refer to Voldemort as the Dark Lord in OotP, during those Occlumency scenes, where Harry questions it himself, and then the whole audience would think, "ooh, who's side is he really on?"

Yes, I didn't like the fact that Snape called LV "You Know You" but it doesn't change much in the story
Am I the only one that didn't really like the Veritaserum Scene?
Not only for Dan who didn't seem at all like Harry, he wasn't "afraid" of Snape, it seemed like he was an old friend..I mean that usually Harry does everything in order to keep Snape far from him.
Don't you remember in the book when he's at Grimmauld place and he discovers that Snape wants to see him? Don't you remember when they looked at each other (R/Hr/H)? I remember that Harry said something like : "Why Snape's here, I didn't do anything!"
And I think that Alan (even if I think he's perfect in the role of Snape) wasn't enough "evil", "bad".
But I really like the scene where Alan Rickman gave a whack on their head it was great! I dunno if Snape would have done this..but it was just too funny!
Oh and the Barty Crouch scene was ok.
But he definitely should be given more screen time!

There is a huge problem with Snape in this film, but it's not Alan's fault. He did the best with what he was given, which wasn't much. I hated what they did to Snape's character. He's not comic relief for goodness sake - didn't they even *glance* at HBP? *sigh*

I agree - Snape wasn't ambiguous or dark as he has been in other films, but again, that's not Alan's fault, it's Mike Newell's and the script writer's (it was still Steve Kloves for this one, wasn't it? It's OotP he's not doing, isn't it? Anyway...)

I just feel sorry for the poor sap who gets the job of repairing all this damage in the script for HBP. There's a whole cinema audience out there who've never read the books who are going to be wondering where it's all coming from.

"What? Dumbledore was killed by the court jester? Who'd have thunk it, huh?"

That was me Michelle.
I saw the movie once and I remember the scene where Karkaroff was showing Snape the dark mark (or whatever you call it..I forgot) and Harry was kind of "spying". Am I mistaken or Harry entered the place where all the potions where (what do you call it in english? completely forgot!) without Snape's "invitation"? And he seems, I must say relaxed to stay there, whereas he usually do everything to stay away from him. Maybe when Snape was explaining the veritaserum part, he wasn't that relaxed but before..or I'm imagining everything?
Btw, I never said that Snape wasn't sarcastic or everything..He was perfect, I was more complaining about Dan..and being sarcastic doesn't make you seem "evil" and that was my point

Yes, I think that Alan Rickman is amazing! He's such a funny actor! Even though he spent about two minutes in the movie I still think he's a main character! And isn't it true that Alan is the only person besides J.K. R. who knows what happens to Snape? I've seen the movie since I found that out and I've been trying to decide from the way he acts about whether or not Snape is guilty in the end. I can't seem to decide though.
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HoofsTails Gal

Well, look at it like this - if Alan knows Snape's future and his acting is supposed to reflect his ultimate fate, then there's only one thing that anyone needs to consider.

He stood in front of the trio and protected them from Lupin. He tried to prevent Harry going after Sirius.

In short, Snape protected them all.

End of discussion.

Alan doesn't know the future of Snape..he can't.
Because if he knows the future of Snape, he knows the future of the books.
Rowling doesn't tell anyone about what will happen in her books, not even her daughter as you might have read in one of her interviews where she asks her something and JRK answered : "you know that I can't tell you...".
He stood in front of the trio in PoA, and HBP was published after GoF (the movie). There's no reason why JKR might have told him that 3 books later, Snape will kill DD.
Plus, it's not Alan who chooses what he will say in the movies.
JKR said that Alfonso foreshadowed some events that will happen in book 6 and 7 without knowing it.
The only thing that JKR tell them is : "No, you have to put this scene because it's important in future books", " No, the graveyard is here, not there", "you have to focus on this, because it will be important", etc..
And if I'm not mistaken, she saw PoA with everyone else so she didn't correct anything. She even said that she doesn't know much about the movies.

If it's official can you tell where you read this?
She tells Alan but not her daughter? Weird..
If he really knows, she told him before PoA or GoF (the movies)? It doesn't make sense in both possibilities because the book was published after the movies. JKR told Alan what will happen in HBP? Unlikely.
And why would she tell him? It doesn't change anything.

I think I read in an interview somewhere that Alan Rickman does know things about the character that we don't but that doesn't mean to say he knows what happens to Snape or which side he is on.It could be something about Snape's past,if he did have feelings for Lily etc.
I guess thats between him and JK.

Just found the quote from the man himself.When asked about his role as Snape-

Very good actor!

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I think Snape is very bad.Alan Rickman is great actor, but Snape is bad personage!He can't laughing!But he must!His role is dark and black.I dislike this roles!

Alan Rickman indeed knows all about Snape`s character and wich side is Snape. I think he is doing a great job with his character. I studied the way he acts in GOF and i`ve seen that scene when he puts the wand on barty crouch jr face with such hate, i don`t know, maybe he feels about barty anger because of the fact that he couldn`t acomplish his task that lord voldemort gaved him till the end, to kill harry potter? (so then is on voldemort side), or maybe he hates and despites barty because he`s a death eater, and doesn`t have his own personality, he just follows the orders of voldemort.(so then is on our side)...


I think we will have to watch him closely in OOTP, he will appear in more scenes there so we will be able to study him.