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-ginny-da-cat-
81? he is an old codger (no offence to anyone)

he doesn't look human becasue of the horcruxes. i wonder if he does die naturally?

he probly can't, or maybe he has to die 7 times? (once for every horcrux)

when i think about it, the books actully started in 1998, (isnt this when the first book was wrote?)
samsmom
Doh! I know what threw me off... Eileen Prince is Snape's mother... she was in Hogwarts 50 years ago. Merope (LV's Mom) never went.
RIP_Sirius
he cannot die unless all his horcruxes are destroyed. DD stated in HBP that the piece of soul in voldy's body is the last that dies, or to put it in his words, "the last one that the one who wants to finish him up will need to atack".
-ginny-da-cat-
was voldie in his reign of terror when lilly and james were at school?

as when ever people have been bavk down memory lane or in the pensive everyone always seemed relaxed and happy, not uptight like they are now?

(the thoughts keep coming to me now ive had cahnce to think aout all the little sidelines)

RIP_sirius is right, he can't die, but then again what if he ages to be like 100000 or something? and all his horcruxes die off without him knowing?

what if he gets an illness?
samsmom
Ok, HP-Lexicon has him as 78, so he's got to be somewhere around that. They have the Chamber being opened in 1943...which at the time when SS was written, would have been around 50 years.

I think that he can't die, even of illnesses... so he can probably get really gross looking... say if he gets some horrible disease and is walking around like that. This may be what DD keeps talking about when he says that there are worse things than death!
Lazuli
I think Voldemort was just starting his reign in Lily and James's time. And if his horcruxes were destroyed, and no one attempted to murder him, I'd assume he would eventually die of old age, sine he would no longer be immortal. As for the illness, I highly doubt something as trivial as illness would bother Voldemort laugh.gif Perhaps if his horcruzes were destroyed, but other than that, no. Hope that helps -ginny-da-cat-. happy.gif
-ginny-da-cat-
can he rot do you think?

maybe, in time, his murders will come back to haunt him, or his soul will get so far away that he doesn't recgonise it anymore.

imagine if he gets arthritus! (SP?) in the middle of the battle he bends over going "ooh me back," tongue.gif sorry but it would be sooo funny.

mind you, good point, illness wouldn't bother him, he'd probly know some spell or other.

thanks for the info on voldies reign and when it started, lazuli
samsmom
To answer your question, -ginny-da-cat-,according to HP-Lexicon and Wikipedia,
The first rise of the Dark Lord was from 1970 - 1981.
James and Lily Potter were in Hogwart's from 1969-1976, so they were in school when he was in power the last time.

I think there's nothing to keep him from getting sick... only from dying, so he could probably rot, or at least get some type of illness that even healers can't cure! He would just last that way forever.

BTW, love the picture of LV's aching back! biggrin.gif
Lazuli
Nah, I doubt someone as evil as Voldemort would care about his past murders ph34r.gif Plus I think his soul has been away for a long time now, if it doesn't affect him now, I doubt it ever will. Like Dumbledore said, he won't be able to feel if his horcrux is destroyed.

Arthritis! Now that IS a funny thought.I can totally imagine him ready to kill Harry, and then his back cracks or something laugh.gif
samsmom
I'm with Lazuli on the murder thing... he didn't care when his soul was whole, it's so much less than that now. He could care less, haunting or not.

I think it might wind up being a nightmare to be immortal in a less than functional state... remember, we saw a lot of non-curable maladies at St. Mungo's.
eagleanimagous
Keep mind that in the HP world it will still be the summer of 1997 in the seventh book. So he would be 71 going on 72 in the books not 81. He would be 81 according to today's date. So his birthdate of December 31 (i just realized that's my birthday), 1926 does make sense going by the reference in CoS of the Chamber last being opened 50 years ago. In the second book he would have been 66 turning 67.
samsmom
Good point, eagleanimagous!!!! I was thinking in terms of our years... waiting for the books to come... I forgot that we couldn't count the years between the books!!!

Still, 71 or 72 is still middle aged... boy I wish I could get younger as quickly as he has ... he's lost 10 years in 14 posts!!!!! biggrin.gif
-ginny-da-cat-
can you imagine if he did start to rot, and ended up with loads of maggots and stuff?
EEEUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


another thing is...will harry make a horcrux do you think?

he was deeply curious and could think its the only way to kill voldie?
Lazuli
LOL! Keep in mind he's still pretty darn old happy.gif I wonder if he'll attempt to get a rejuvinating potion or something.

Harry make a horcrux? That I doubt. For one thing, he isn't smart enough (Hermione would probably reach the limit) and he isn't evil enough. He understands from Dumbledore how powerful a whole and untarnished soul can be.
samsmom
Yea, rotting LV... not a pretty thought!!!! blink.gif

As for Harry, I don't even think that he will murder LV... he may cause the circumstance of his death, but I don't think that JKR wants him to be a murderer, even for the sake of good.
He will never make a horcrux... he finds it revolting, and didn't understand how anyone could do that to themselves. I think he is also not afraid of death... he'd rather live of course, but he's not afraid to die for a good cause.

Remember, Lazuli, that wizards live longer than muggles... 71 is only middle aged as far as we know. DD was getting on in years, and he was 150. He only died because he was killed... who knows how long he could have gone if he hadn't been killed.
-ginny-da-cat-
i just think that JK wants us to get the picture that Harry is an innocent little boy that isn't capable of murder.

a bit off topic here aren't we? oh well...

what if voldermort like reaches 300 and gets bored with life or ruling or something? do oyu think that he would get bored as he got older and had took over everywhere?
eagleanimagous
You know what I just realized? That Voldemort being just over 70 would mean he went to school with McGonagall. Interesting stories there? Haha.
70 is middle-aged to wizards, as samsmom said. I mean McGonagall is still up and about, she doesn't even show signs of being old.
Lazuli
Good point Samsmom. Probably just because of the magic in their blood, that they live so long. I always thought of his life like the equivalent to drinking the elixir of life...I can't really blame Snape though. I have a suspicion they planned his death.

Yeah, I can imagine Voldemort getting bored after taking over everything...and having tortured anyone. There probably wouldn't be any muggleborn or halfblood for him to kill after all of it.
-ginny-da-cat-
now eagleanimagous that is an interesting point?

another traitor?

romance in the air?

old school friends?

it does make you wonder...yes, she is up and about but lavender (? was it her ?) said that 4 stuprefys to the chest... not as you g as she used to be...ectra ...
Lazuli
Well, there are a few signs she is getting on a little...like when she got hit with a few stunners in the fifth book...they were saying how it wasn't good for her at her age tongue.gif And it's funny how it wasn't mentioned she went to Hogwarts with Voldemorta! They probably wouldn't have interacted much seeing as Minerva probably would have been in Gryffindor.
eagleanimagous
True, they might not have interacted much. I just thought it was an interesting topic to think about. Do we know when exactly the Houses became so divided? And what about Slughorns parties? He never mentions McGonagall but still, she is a teacher. We could assume she was good at potions and such.
-ginny-da-cat-
perhaps, perhaps but Maybe Mcgonagal was rubbish at potions but brilliant at transfiguration?

hey that would mean that voldie was onyl about 30 years younge rthan voldie tongue.gif now theres a scary thought!

maybe mcgonagal had a secret crush on voldie? what if used occasionly to get information?
samsmom
Sorry, I went off to see if she ever said in an interview, what the life expectancy actually was... no luck. She just said that DD was 150 and that wizards have a greater life expectancy than muggles.

Yes, MM was in school with LV, but... does she know that LV was Tom Riddle??? Who knows, only Harry and DD???? Also I agree that she was a Gryffindor, who would not have been interested in a Slytherin of another year. She probably never had classes with him, so there are probably no stories there. As with Hagrid, who only came across Tom because Tom blamed him for opening the Chamber of Secrets.

eagleanimagous, according to the sorting hat, the houses were divided when the founders were still there, from almost, if not, the very beginning.
IndiShukla
Well the way I see it, it really doesn't matter how much he ages. Tech. he has a new body doesn't he? I mean his body was destroyed when he tried to kill Harry and he got a new body in GOF, the only thing that is old is his soul.
Dobby'sboggart
Voldemort was sixteen when he opened the Chamber. The Chamber reopens fifty years later. Several years have gone by since that.

Voldemort is in his late sixties or early seventies.

I think the Dark Lord can fight well because of wizard life span. The Horcruxes will keep able to fight for all eternity until Harry destroys them.

Dumbledore and Harry aren't the only people who know that voldemort was once Tom Riddle. Remember that Dumbledore said it in front of MM, Ron, Ginny, and the Weasley parents? And Hermione, being part of the trio, will know. Slughorn and Hagrid may also know.
Potterfan7
I would like to add that if Riddle went to school with McGonagall she probably heard the sorting hat sorting say, "Tom Riddle, Slytherin!"

I Have to disagree that Slytherins and Gryffindors did not have classes together. In CoS Riddle makes it like he knew Hagrid and what he was keeping secret. Riddle must have had a plan if somebody was on his tag about the chamber. I have to agree also with whoever said that Voldemort's body was destroy and that he now has a new body. Remember that Voldemort is immortal as for right now so his body might not age as do regular bodies.
Meski
I really wonder how old Harry is? blink.gif
LunasLil'bro
I don't know if anyone's pointed this out, but it says that voldemort was 16 when he opened the CoS, so you add 16, 50, and 5, there's your answer. (I got 71)
FireryPhoinex
He is 63 years old.

In 1998 when the second book is published he opened the chamber in his fifth year ( i think it was that year) and that was fifty years ago. 50+16-1995=1944

Lunas lil bro where did you get the 5 from in your math??
s3rgio
@fireryPhoinex

He got it from the five years they've been in school since the CoS was opened. Or almost five years.

But if this age is accurate then at the time he was gaining interest in horcruxes Grindelwald was running wild. But that's getting off topic.
potter's_gurl
my brother and i hae been thinking about this and this is what we got:

in the second book 50 years ago LV was 16
16 + 50= 68
+ 5
= 72
in the seventh book he should be 72, if my math is right!
tigerlily231105
yeah he's got to be pushing 70....just push him down the steps and hes done XD
teeny13
Everytime I watch the Chamber of secrets I think the samething. Do wizards have longer lives than regular humans? So 50 years ago from when Harry was 12 Voldermort was 16. So whenHarry was in his 2nd year Voldermort was 66 and so I am guessing 73? maybe.
La MaitressedeMort
I had this talk with myself the other day (oh, I'm back just incase you were wondering why everything was so quiet and normal, stupid homework... good for nothing except everything...), and we know that he was in school with Hagrid when he was in his second year, so he's not more than five years older. I don't like to talk about years since I don't want to think about the fact that people think the book already happened, since I think it's happening right now, but that's not relevant right now. Well, it is, but for later. The chamber was opened how many years ago? I thought it was fifty, but that might be give or take a few. Um, let me see. It wasn't his sixth year, cause wasn't that when he killed his father? So, I've been guessing it was the year before, or something like that. They weren't in the same year, I have a feeling, cause Hagrid seemed so childlike when he seemed so older. So...Um, yes I could just ask him, but he's testy right now, so best not try his patience. Yeah, I'd say in his seventies, about. I don't think he's Hagrid's age, definitly. The thing about him not looking that old is, what I think, that he's gone farther than anyone before him, who's to say he's not put a stopper on death/ aging? He changed so much in the few years he was gone from Hogwarts, that I doubt he wanted something like age to slow him down. Dumbledore didn't let it, but look how it shows? He didn't want to show his weakness, to let others see a crack, cause they'd go for it, and he'd fall. By keeping his appearance unable to see his age, they'd not be able to see it (wow, that was dumb) and therefore he'd not have the chance to show weakness. That's what I think, anyways. Wow, it feels good to talk whilst procrastinating on my homework. Ah, I missed this.

~Aeryn~
Phoenix_1
I agree with you guys, he's got to be arround his early 70s...
And teeny 13, I do think that wizards can live longer than Muggles, not only because they can make potions and all that stuff, look at DD...he's got to be much older than we all think... offtopic.gif
kskarpias
QUOTE(-ginny-da-cat- @ Mar 27 2007, 10:31 AM) [snapback]352460[/snapback]

Hi !

does anyone actully know how old voldermort is?

what we know:

15 years ago, harry stopped him.

over 50 years ago elieen prince had the potions book, and she was snapes mum, so we can gather that snape must be at mim. 28-30.

i just wondered because voldie will be aging, getting slower and weaker? would this help harry at all?

but this raises the question that can Voldie age and die naturally with the horcruxes?

im sure your confused, i know i am! just please tell me what you think!


All I know is, Voldemort MUST be at least in his 70s! blink.gif He doesn 't really look that old (then yet he kinda does) b/c of the horcruxes. I wonder who's gonna die in the 7th HP book: Harry Potter or Lord Voldemort?
Sofia_Snape
why are people still guessing his age? somebody worked it out acurately in like the 4th post or something.

also mugglenet.com has a list of most characters birthdays but we have to bear in mind that harry potter is set in the 1990s
tylerraye13
Well lets break this up. The next book is coming out. So technically 16 years ago Voldemort was defeated by Harry. But when Harry was twelve it was fifty years beforehand that Voldemort was sixteen years old. So lets do this...

Lets see Harry was twelve...so

50-years since the chamber was opened
12 harry's age
=
38.

So when Harry was born it was thirty-eight years before that Voldemort was sixteen.

38+ the time period between when harry was born and the chamber being opened
16 years is how old Voldemort was
=
54

So when Voldemort killed Harry he was fifty-four years old.

54+
16 How old Harry is now minus one
=
70.

My theory with the proof above is that Voldemort is now seventy years od.

But remember... Through the transformations that he put himsef through he is not seventy though. These transformations alone make him so powerful. I doubt he has to do normal daily things like use the restroom. And brush your teeth.
etphonehome
I'm really surprised that this thread has kept going to 41+ posts when we already had a thread about characters ages. Still, I'm going to merge this with the existing one.
Owl Handler
I always seem to type flaws in theories, but I don't know where we are assuming that you leave Hogworts at 17. Unless your birthday is in the Summer (pre-Sept), then everyone should be 18 unless you leave early in an amazing flare of fireworks...
Witherwings
what about hagrid????
hes at least 60!
i would of thought more like 50...
sorry, off topic.:S
gaburdette
Not off topic at all. This is the right place to discuss this.

A few posts before this one, there is a good analysis of Voldemort's age. The post can be found here. Remember both Riddle and Hagrid was in school together. That post places Riddle's age at 70 during HBP. I do not recall if Hagrid was in Riddle's class or a few years younger. I think you are looking at Hagrid's age during HBP at 66-70 years old.

Of course that assumes he started Hogwarts at 11 years old like the other kids. Being half giant, that could be different and I do not recall anywhere in the books where it lists how old Hagrid was when he started Hogwarts.
Witherwings
Thanks Gaburdette,

I totally agree with you and understand. But him being a half giant, would it affect his age when he started? I don't think he would of been younger, but maybe older than average students. He just seems so young for 60-70! Although Dumbledore is about 150, so you can't really decide the age by the character's impression!
Lauren0891
Well, according to the Harry Potter Lexicon, Hagrid was born in 1928, which would make him 63 at the time of the first book, if my maths is correct. wacko.gif That would also make him nearly 79 today. According to Lexicon his birthday is December 6.

Also on Lexicon it says that Tom Marvolo Riddle was born in 1926 on December 31. That would make him 65 during the first book and 69 in June 2005 when he rose back to power.

Hope that makes sense and helps... rolleyes.gif
Witherwings
yeah thanks lots it does help!
gryffindorgirlie
Confusing numbers! We know Hagrid is definitely over fifty because in CoS he was at least 11, and that was fifty years ago!

The whole Charlie thing is a good question. I was wondering this when I was reading the epilouge in DH. It's nineteen years later and Fluer and Bill's kid is only 11.... Same age as Ron and Hemriones and Harry and Ginny's. And we know he's at least 7 years older than Ginny.

But Tonks is quite young, because in OotP, it says that Tonks wasn't old enough to be in the order first time round, and I'm guessing you had to be of age. And the old one was 17 years ago, so I'd say mid-twenty's. PLus she's really cool. Key factor! cool2.gif
MissRandom
QUOTE(gryffindorgirlie @ Sep 1 2007, 01:53 AM) [snapback]443429[/snapback]

But Tonks is quite young, because in OotP, it says that Tonks wasn't old enough to be in the order first time round, and I'm guessing you had to be of age. And the old one was 17 years ago, so I'd say mid-twenty's. PLus she's really cool. Key factor! cool2.gif


Yeaaahhh....
Does anyone know exactly what year she was born in? It would really help me for a fic I'm trying to get together....
Season
I think she was born in 1973. I read it in wiki somewhere. That would mean shes around 22 or 23 in ootp.
MissRandom
QUOTE(Season @ Sep 17 2007, 12:26 PM) [snapback]448480[/snapback]

I think she was born in 1973. I read it in wiki somewhere. That would mean shes around 22 or 23 in ootp.


Thanks for the info! I'll check up on wikipedia later...I don't know why I didn't think of it before! wacko.gif

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Bellatrix Lestrange1
I just wanted to know
How old was Bellatrix when she became a Death Eater & When she married Rodolphus Lestrange?

Its for a RPG i'm joining

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