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kreacher_the_house_elf

Jul 25 2004, 11:35 AM

Well. Mistakes they happen in the best of the movies and I was wondering if any one had anything to share.

Here's one that really irritates me.

In PS/SS When Hagrid is taking Harry to Kings Cross station Hagrid goes to some woman in pink 'What are you looking at?' When he says this to her she is near the higher grill( so as to stop people jumping in front of trains) but after Hagrid tells Harry about his ticket. The woman is in front of where she was.

Hard to explain but I tried..

Anyone else have any??

Miseria

Jul 27 2004, 06:39 PM

In CoS when Harry has his first scene with Dobby you can see the yellow ball on tyhe stick that Harry had to act with in the reflection of his glasses.

Also in PoA Harry's scar appears on different sides of his head. BUT that is only because they used a mirrior image camera shot, or something like that.

kreacher_the_house_elf

Jul 30 2004, 01:03 PM

Yeah some of the mistakes really could've/ should've been spotted and stopped.

For example in Hagrids Hut when Hermione throws that suspicious looking rock and the vase shatters and then later it shatters completely in a different way.

Yes that mistake is a more known one but aww well!!!

Pixie Paradise

Aug 9 2004, 09:12 PM

In the PoA when Hermoine hits Draco, the first time she hits him to the side and his head hits the wall...the second time she hits him right on and his head never hits the wall. This one was really obvious to me.

MimolaChuck

Aug 10 2004, 02:58 AM

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In CoS when Harry has his first scene with Dobby you can see the yellow ball on tyhe stick that Harry had to act with in the reflection of his glasses

at what part? i watched all dobby parts, there was no reflection

kreacher_the_house_elf

Aug 11 2004, 06:21 AM

I can't see any yellow ball either! I don't know what version you have!

Maybe you have the VHS or something?

Please help you have intrigued me!!

MimolaChuck

Aug 12 2004, 02:06 AM

and also intrigued me.
as soon as i read that i ran downstairs and pressed play (as it was already in the dvd player

)
i searched every part with dobby and i couldnt find it!!!

Wednesday_Adams

Aug 12 2004, 05:07 PM

I don't like it when they make Ron look stupid... I just don't! And you know they do! Ron is smarter and more loyal in the books and you know it! Ow! Showed emotions!

Does that count as a mistake?

MimolaChuck

Aug 13 2004, 06:35 PM

i found a mistake this morning.
in CoS, when harry arrives at the burrow, it shows the special clock. well, ron, fred, and georges handles turn from lost to home, and you can see that percy's, mrs. weasly's, and ginny's are pointing to "garden".
however, mrs weasly then runs into the kitchen from upstairs to yell at ron. but her handle said she was in the garden!

kreacher_the_house_elf

Aug 14 2004, 04:59 AM

Thats a good one! Now if I could find my CoS DVD I would be ok.

I think I lost the disk down the side of the lounge = not sanitary!

Padfoot4Ever

Sep 1 2004, 01:35 AM

I hope there isn't a post like this yet. I didn't see one.

Anyway did anyone notice a mistake. Whether from book to movie or just a mistake. They were plenty. I've read about some but I never read about this one. Did anyone notice that during the first Hogmeade trip Ginny was in the group? She's only a second year in PoA and its for 3rd years and up. Tell me what you think.

severely_severus

Sep 1 2004, 02:59 AM

Yeah there were quite a few, but the only one that I can think of off the top of my head right now is how the jar in Hagrid's breaks in two totally different ways. One time it breaks in half, with only the two pieces. The other it has a bunch of little pieces and the bottom is still in tact... I thought that was a rather silly error to make, though I suppose I'll get over it

Dracoluver

Sep 1 2004, 05:58 PM

In CoS, when Harry and Draco duel, and Draco is on the "floor" (well, the table), with his back to us, you can see a cameraman on the left, near to the students that are watching! Now that's a BIG mistake!

Nivaya

Sep 2 2004, 05:36 PM

I'll voice my usual "They showed St Pancras station instead of King's Cross" thing that I always point out.

It HAS recently been pointed out to me that when JKR as writing, the station she was thinking about was St Pancras, but wrote King's Cross and by the time she next went to either of them, it was too late...but still...IT SAYS KING'S CROSS!!!! *giggles*

Oh, for those of you who don't know, King's Cross and St. Pancras are two huge rail stations in London which are right next door to each other, they're just across the street from each other, and St Pancras is by far the more beautiful of the two, the front of it used to be a luxury hotel, and it's really tall and all gothic-style architecture, while King's Cross is just kinda...dull looking...so St. Pancras is the more cinematic one of the two anyway....

Yeah alright, I'm a little obsessive about stations....LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!

Kimcatus

Sep 2 2004, 09:09 PM

OK, well, I feel dumb...I didn't catch any of these...guess i get too "caught up" in the movies to notice...

But I'll look now...got a nice long weekend to just sit and watch DVD's!

joeshmoe1228

Sep 3 2004, 12:35 AM

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For example in Hagrids Hut when Hermione throws that suspicious looking rock and the vase shatters and then later it shatters completely in a different way.

But that doesn't necessarily count as a mistake because Harry and Hermione are now in this time "warp?" thing and they sort of changed it slightly. You know what I mean? It doesn't have to happen the exact same way because something may or may not have happened to make Hermione throw differently.

Anyone understand? lol.

MimolaChuck

Sep 3 2004, 07:50 PM

yes, it also could be the angle aswell

QUOTE

thats awesome, in fact, i think i'll go find that.
i am very amazed that you noticed that!
or maybe im just blind. IM GOING TO FIND IT!

MimolaChuck

Sep 3 2004, 08:04 PM

i cant find it

i slowed it down and i still couldnt.

Padfoot4Ever

Sep 4 2004, 01:45 AM

Okay this isn't really a movie mistake but it is from Book to movie. In POA during the first Hogsmeade trip you can see Ginny in the background. She is only a second year. Its for 3rd years and up.

Padfoot4Ever

Sep 4 2004, 01:49 AM

In CoS when Harry tells Hedwig he can't let her out and about being locked I think you can see the key sticking out of the lock.

BellatrixBlack

Sep 6 2004, 06:43 AM

She could have just been on the steps like Harry was, cause he didnt go to Hogsmede either. But one mistake i did notice that was pretty sad was when Dumbledore told them that the word of 3 13yrds wasnt enough to prove anything. Well it was already towards the end of the school year so that would have meant that Ron was already 14, sad I know, I have no life, lol.

Padfoot4Ever

Sep 7 2004, 01:21 AM

No Ginny walked away with the group. She was definately going to Hogsmeade.

Ya Ron would have been 14 and so was Hermione. Her birthday is September 19. And lets say you have to be 11 by September 1 then only a couple weeks in she would have been 12 so she has an early birthday. So really it's the word of 2 14 yr olds and 1 13 yr old. But in the book it's 2 13 yr olds. Ron wasn't even awake in the book. But it made that part in the movie funny when Ron asked how they went from the one spot to the other just like that. lol

Oh and How when Hermione howled did Lupin not know it wasn't real. Werewolves are supposed to be able to tell if it's their own kind. (Why did they add this anyway? It wasn't even in the book. It was a little odd. Even my sisters boyfriends son knew it was Hermione howling. He's only 9. lol)

Nivaya

Sep 7 2004, 12:00 PM

It also didn't say anthing in the film about werewolves being in the slightest bit intelligent....I guess we're just supposed to assume that werewolves are dumb *which is a HIGHLY unfair thing*, and that Hermione cunningly tricked him. Although why they felt the need to add that anyway...apart from adding a little peril and excitement....*shrugs* tis beyond me...

Padfoot4Ever

Sep 10 2004, 12:50 AM

Ya they thought if they didn't tell us werewolves are intelligent we wouldn't know that Hermione howling shouldn't have tricked him. But people who read the books know. Why did they make her howl? I mean in th books Lupin just runs at them. But I suppose they made Sirius chase Lupin off so they made that different so they had to get Lupin to come their way somehow. Then thye were being chased by him which didn't happen. Man they change one thing and that makes so much more needing to be changed.

joeshmoe1228

Sep 10 2004, 02:46 PM

Well we could all play dumb and say that since Hermione was so smart, she was able to imitate a werewolf's howl.

Maybe the pot breaking two different ways was a mistake. Each time you go back in time, you could do something differently. It's not totally fate that you do the same exact thing. You know what I mean? Different factors come into play and the occurence of one thing might affect something that may or may not happens. Does that make sense to anybody? If we were able to go over the same day over and over, you think we would do everything exactly the way we did it before? Maybe the director was trying to say something about time travel? It doesn't go exactly as you planned? I don't know, it didn't strike to me as a mistake at first.

Sally-Anne Perks

Sep 19 2004, 03:18 PM

There are two other sequence mistakes with the Time Turner.

1) After Hermione hits Malfoy and says, "That felt good," Ron says, "Good? You mean brilliant!" and Malfoy runs away saying "Jumped up Mudblood." Once, Ron speaks before Malfoy, and the other time, Malfoy talks first. I don't remember which was which, though.

2) When Harry is conjuring the Patronus (when the stag appears; let's call him Time Turner Harry), the first time (when Harry 1 doesn't know that Time Turner Harry is there and thinks that it is James), the light from the Patronus goes back into Time Turner Harry's wand before Harry 1 lies down. The second time, Harry 1 lies down first, and then the light goes back into Time Turner Harry's wand.

Padfoot4Ever

Sep 22 2004, 08:10 PM

You know I think I remember that. They had a lot of things backwards.

QUOTE

I've thought about that too. Especially since I just watched 50 First Dates which is kinda like htis. She doesn't go back in time but she sorta does because she has short term memory loss. Anyways I agree. When most people say they want to go back in time it is usually to do something different they did that day. So who knows.

Lynn

Sep 23 2004, 06:47 PM

when does malfoy say 'jumped up mudblood?'
I've seen poa 4 times but i didn't hear that

he's saying I'm gonna get that mudblood but you can only hear it in the timeturmer peace.

eedoe

Sep 23 2004, 07:10 PM

That is when he says it. When Time Turner Harry and Hermione are hiding as Malfoy and his cronies run past into the bridge, Draco calls her a jumped up mudblood.

kreacher_the_house_elf

Sep 24 2004, 10:34 AM

Ok now I have to go look at that one!!! I agree that they made the rock smash the vase differently to make it less confusing. I agree

Lynn

Sep 26 2004, 08:24 AM

oh...... I think i rememeber. thats a funny part, the time turner part..

Chatlanta11

Oct 10 2004, 05:00 PM

Mistakes I noticed:

Ron never got Pigwedeon.
Harry got the broom at the end of the movie, not at Christmas. Remember, in the book it had to be checked for curses and things.
There was no Cho Chang or Cedric Diggory. Also there was no Oliver Wood, which is sad cause wouldn't he be a seventh year?

I def. liked the book better. A lot of magic was lost in the movie; there was minimal Quidditch, the students looked sloppy...never really in their uniforms, and overall magical themes were lost.

Oh well. .. I'm writing a comparative essay for Lit class...Books vs. Movies: harry potter.

severely_severus

Oct 13 2004, 09:43 PM

Mmm on second thought, do you really think the time-turner things are mistakes? The differences I mean? Honestly, they're pretty stupid mistakes to make... they could have easily just used the same shot again as they had in the regular time part. Maybe the "errors" we've spotted there (ie jar breaking different ways, hermione turning around differently before punching draco) were deliberate mistakes... to show that while the end result is the same, there can be variations. Afterall, everyone turned around to see the ministry members coming down the hill later the second time around didn't they? ("Why aren't we leaving?")

Padfoot4Ever

Oct 13 2004, 10:33 PM

Yea thats kinda what I was saying. You go back in time to change things, right? You change one thing, that changes the future completly. I think you're right. They did that on purpose. I mean the pot breaking couldn't have been anymore obvious.

joeshmoe1228

Oct 13 2004, 10:46 PM

Well Cho Chang wasn't cast yet. I don't think Cedric Diggory was either but that one I'm not too sure of. The actor who plays Oliver Wood, Sean Biggerstaff will not be doing any Harry Potter movies past the first two which he was in.

I don't think Harry getting the broom during Christmas was a "mistake". I think the writers or Cuaron, whomever, did it purposely because it helped the movie plot flow more.

Overall magical themes were lost. What exactly does that mean? Are you talking perhaps about dementors? The dementors were just fine because Cuaron was able to depict their personality and power perfectly. The long fingers and the freezing of the fog. . .definitely dementors.

The students looked sloppy? Maybe to show an overall distress perhaps. I'm pretty sure the only time they were not in uniform was when they were going to Hogsmeade.

Quidditch is minimal because it isn't important to the plot which they are trying to convey, which is Sirius's escaping. So because of time constraints, you might have to eliminate some subplots, including Harry's favorite pasttime, Quidditch.

Keep in mind that if the movie was exactly the same as the book, why would you see the movie if you've already read the book? Rowling wanted to stray from the book and not stay as close to the book as the first two films did.

I've been trying to tell people about the Time Turner thing for a long time. I'm glad people agree!

Padfoot4Ever

Oct 13 2004, 10:59 PM

They didn't want to cast Cho Chang until the 4th movie. Same with Cedric. They've now been cast for months.

Sean isn't in HP anymore. They cut Oliver out because he wasn't too inmportant because they cut out a lot of the quidditch. The 3rd book was Oliver's 7th year so he's gone. We saw him in GoF for like one line but that's it. I think Oliver is gone for good. As sad as it is. He was a weird but funny character.

The students didn't wear normal clothes very much. On weekends is all, which is when Hogsmeade is so thats not a lot. They wore normal clothes in the first two movies. It's just most of the important stuff takes place during the weekend. (I think) Anyways, it was while they had classes. I liked seeing them in normal clothes.

Play_Fan

Oct 16 2004, 03:41 AM

QUOTE (Padfoot4Ever @ Sep 7 2004, 01:21 AM)

No,
Hermione is the youngest out of the 3 of them because Ron was born on March 1st 1980, Harry was born on July 31st 1980 and Hermione was born on Septemder 19th 1980 so that means Hermione is the youngest and that she came to Hogwarts at age 10-and-a-half.

joeshmoe1228

Oct 16 2004, 05:26 PM

No, Hermione's the oldest because if she was born the same year as Harry and Ron, she would not have made the cut-off and would be a 1st year when they were 2nd year. Well, I'm pretty sure. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Louise

Oct 16 2004, 05:56 PM

I agree with you, Joe. What you guys have to remember is that JKR is from Britain and that the books are set in Britain. Here, the school year runs from September to August. If Hermione was born in September of the same year as Harry and Ron, she'd have been in the year below them. Therefore, as she's in the same yeat, she's the oldest, Ron's the middle (in March) and Harry's the youngest.

I'm sure there's another thread around here somewhere discussing ages......

Alohomora

Oct 17 2004, 07:16 PM

Okay I'm not sure on this b/c I can't honestly remember if it was in the book-- might have been--- but it just struck me as odd that the whole time turner sequence took place in the spring, but they were in a Pumpkin patch with piles of mature pumpkins which shouldn't be ripe until fall.

maybe they are magic pumpkins and stayed intact over the winter.

any thoughts?

zyra123

Nov 2 2004, 03:05 PM

QUOTE (joeshmoe1228 @ Oct 14 2004, 06:46 AM)

Quidditch is minimal because it isn't important to the plot which they are trying to convey, which is Sirius's escaping. So because of time constraints, you might have to eliminate some subplots, including Harry's favorite pasttime, Quidditch.

It says in the book that when Harry won the Quidditch cup in Quidditch Final, he would be able to conjure up a perfect Patronus because the memory of it. But since there was no Quidditch Final, can we kind of assume that the memory Harry had when he conjured the Patronus in the time-turner scene is based on other memory?

Maybe he realize that he's the one who helped Sirius, that he's great enough to do that. And Sirius wouldn't die...

Like in the learning Patronus scene, he said that it's not really a memory he chose. He's like thinking about his parents and talking to them. I think that's what he said. Correct me if I'm wrong.

So, my point is, can we assume that the 'feeling' Harry had felt when conjuring the Patronus is on living with Sirius, having a father-figure at last and leaving Privet Drive forever....

Emm...what do you reckon?

Alohomora, I'm not sure about those pumpkin though. Maybe they just want to emphasize the magical themes where wizards are able to enlarge pumpkins?? I dunno...

ashleigh07

Nov 4 2004, 11:15 PM

I've been wanting to post in this thread but I keep forgetting...

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Ron never got Pigwedeon.
Harry got the broom at the end of the movie, not at Christmas. Remember, in the book it had to be checked for curses and things.
There was no Cho Chang or Cedric Diggory. Also there was no Oliver Wood, which is sad cause wouldn't he be a seventh year?

These were all not mistakes. Pig will most likely be introduced in GoF. As I've said before in another thread, it really isn't a big deal because Pig doesn't come into the main plot of the story. The broom wasn't a mistake either. As joe said it was done in that way because it flowed better and Cuaron thought it'd make a good ending. If he'd followed the book's events, he'd have had to bring in the whole McGonnagal confiscating the broom, the boys being upset with Hermione over it, Harry bugging McGonnagal for his broom back...all of which, taken away, doesn't make the movie lack of anything. As for Cho, she was always meant to only make her appearance in GoF. She didn't play that significant a role in PoA that was central to the plot. In the same way, Cedric only played a much greater role in the books in GoF.

You have to understand that Cuaron was working within a very tight timeframe. And PoA had a lot of details, big and small, going on. Tough decisions had to be made on what stays and what goes. Stuff that did not affect the main plot(s) could and should be done away with. Same goes for Quidditch. As great as it would have been to watch Quidditch, it really didn't fit into the central plot of the book, for it to play a bigger part. A shame though all the same, coz it would have been really nice to see Oliver's ecstatic face when Gryffindor took the Cup... But yeah, I do understand the reasoning behind it.

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do you really think the time-turner things are mistakes? The differences I mean? Honestly, they're pretty stupid mistakes to make... they could have easily just used the same shot again as they had in the regular time part. Maybe the "errors" we've spotted there (ie jar breaking different ways, hermione turning around differently before punching draco) were deliberate mistakes... to show that while the end result is the same, there can be variations.

Very good point there. Although I do agree that maybe they could have been more careful filming the Time Turner sequence, as was mentioned, timetravel is a tricky business. So I'm not gonna hold it against them. That was a difficult sequence to do but I thought they pulled it off admirably, good effort.

JKR had been asked for permission about putting the kids in more normal clothes in this movies. JKR agreed saying that when writing the books, she always imagined the kids only wearing their robes during school hours but normal ones when they're in their leisure time.

About the pumpkins, yeah they're probably magical...

This is Hogwarts we're talking about!! Where staircases move and portraits speak to you!!

And lastly zyra, yes they changed the memory Harry used to conjure the Patronus in the movie. In the book the memory he chose was the day he was told by Hagrid that he was a wizard and that he had another life than that at the Dursleys. In the movie, the memory he chose was of his parents talking to him. He told Lupin that it was complicated as he's not even sure it was a real memory, but it was the happiest he had ever felt and the best memory he had to work with.

joeshmoe1228

Nov 5 2004, 06:35 AM

Couldn't have said it better myself ashleigh!

About the pumpkins, isn't this around November anyway so the pumpkins would still be ripe, magical or not? All they would have to do is add an enlarging spell!

You know, I think the absense of Cho allowed Cuaron to play around with the relationships. Ron and Hermione accidentally holding hands and Hermione and Harry hugging, that sort of thing. It still leaves the film ambiguous.

(Okay, okay I know. I'm a hypocrite. I used to say the movie, PoA leaned toward Harry and Hermione.

Well I changed my view. xD It's still ambiguous, as Rowling likes it I presume.

x_Loony_Lovegood_x

Nov 26 2004, 04:43 PM

I noticed two mistakes:

1. Harry's scar is supposed to be on the left side, but in the boggart scene, his scar's on the right side. And then after that it jumped back to the left side. That really bugged me lol.

2. When wormtail transformed, his clothes like fell off of him. But when Lupin and Sirius make him transform into a human, his clothes are on him....

Yeah, that howling part really bugged me too. I definately like the book better.

zyra123

Nov 26 2004, 05:40 PM

To each his own....but you really should be glad Ash is not around reading this... (I'll try my best, Ash!!!)

QUOTE

When wormtail transformed, his clothes like fell off of him. But when Lupin and Sirius make him transform into a human, his clothes are on him....

Well, I must say, it was more to show the special effect with how the clothes fall loosely down when its owner no longer fit in it. Imagine a different scene, where the clothes changed together into Scabbers, it would not look too impressive now, would it? And imagine what happen when Sirius and Lupin change Scabbers into a without clothes Peter? Okay, stop imagining...

It's a PG rated movie...they had to do something about it...

I can't say anything about the scar though...except that it's not that important...I don't even noticed it even though I've watched it many times. Before you can say I don't have sharp eyes, I want to say that the Boggart scene was so absorbing (especially having David in it!!

) that it didn't matter where Harry's scar was.

And personally I don't find any of the above, big problem anyway... they're just tiny winy part compared to all of the others that they (film makers) painstakingly focused on to produce good result...

If there are a few mistakes, I can easily forgiven them because overall the movie was just amazing!!

joeshmoe1228

Nov 27 2004, 12:44 AM

This was brought up in another thread. . .but here's what I think:

Perhaps it shows how unadvanced Peter's magic/Animagus[sp?] is. We know Peter was the weakest of the four Marauders and this may be an emphasis on that concept. Even if Rowling does not mention it in her books, it's highly possible there are different advancements of Transfiguration of oneself.

zyra123

Nov 27 2004, 04:53 AM

QUOTE (joeshmoe1228 @ Nov 27 2004, 08:44 AM)

Perhaps it shows how unadvanced Peter's magic/Animagus is.

I think you have a point there. I mean, I remember seeing Prof McGonagall transform into her cat form and back fully clothes.

Ooh! Ooh! I know....remember that Peter was reaching for a wand to transform himself but then Hermione (I think...) cast the Expelliarmus (sp?) spell to take it away. But he transform himself nonetheless... maybe he needs a wand to transform fully in clothes? Being such a weak (and a wimp and a bloody stupid traitorous....*keep on mumbling*) wizards himself...

Where's the thread you talk about, Joe?

Never mind, maybe I'll found it somehow later on...if it's active, that is!

Louise

Nov 27 2004, 10:11 AM

Yeah, it is active. I mentioned it yesterday in response to some points that madamepomfrey raised HERE......but let's not go down that route in this thread guys, just to keep it on topic.

Sally-Anne Perks

Dec 4 2004, 02:09 AM

Uhhh...back to the topic of this thread...I define a mistake in the movies as a continuity mistake, not as a change from the book. Therefore, I would say that differences in the Time Turner sequence are mistakes, while the fact the Cho and Pig weren't introduced and the timing of the Firebolt was changed are deletions/changes from the book. There's a differences - mistakes in the movie are little editing glitches, and changes from the book are usually done on purpose because if everything in the book was in the movie, it would be about eight hours long! (Not that I would complain...)

Keara

Dec 6 2004, 11:14 PM

In the first movie after the sorting ron harry and hermione sit down at gryfindor table.that was the seen the sorting hat.the next seen that runs
right in with it they are sitting in different places

another thing i noticed in poa ,harrys scar is in a different place
in parts of the movie.

In the book they said harry could see the winged horses because
he saw cedric die.Butin the fourth book they say he closed hi eyes.

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