I've posted this before and had no response to it. My theory is that Ron's death was forshadowed at the Veil when Harry thought he had heard Rons voice behind the veil, even though Ron was standing behind him.I just thought of this it kinda goes with the Olivander's/Ron lives theory
Ronald's Veil, kinda makes sense to me, does any one else agree.

This is a good theory
Why?
Because I want Sirius back more than I want Dumbledore back And I keep trying to find reasons how Sirius will make his grand entrance in book 7!

I think if the Veil is the future it would’ve been placed directly inside the room with the time turners and where the death eater turned into a baby. As for the Veil, if it is the future, deals with time. Then again, the room which did have the veil was kind of a sub room off of the one with the time turners so perhaps it all fits under one category.

That would be really cool if the veil represented the future because then Sirius would be in the future and then Harry would be able to meet up with him again ect. But I don’t think that’s likely. I agree more with the theory that the veil represents the dead or the past and the voices the Harry heard are people who have died.

I don't think that the veil is for the future. Well, think about it. If it was for the future, then why would Harry hear the voices coming out of it? I think that it would only be the voices of the deceased. That's the only reason I can come up with. But I think that it would probably be impossible if the veil were for the future.


*Sirius*

i don't think the veil represents the future because it would be possible for anyone who goes through that veil to come back, wouldn't it?
No, I believe that it is a portal of death, because not only did Dumbledore mention that there was a 'death' chamber, but there were also stone seats around the edges, as if it was an execution room of some sort. It would be the wizard way of hanging. Not only that, but everyone told Harry that Sirius had actually died, not gone to some other space or time. Because you die if you step through the veil you die, it is probably likely that it is, indeed death.
What a grim subject we're discussing.

hey wasnt sirius dead BEFORE he went through the veil?

bellatrix hit him with a curse (presumably the killing curse......)

so wat exactly is the veil, it cant just be a portal to the dead world

people can get there just fine on their own.

Hey, I was also thinking about the veil...because on the cover of the 7th book just released, it looks like Harry and Voldie are in the atrium room with rocks at their feet....which is where the veil is. It is just a thought because that is the first thing that popped into my head when I saw it...except it is outside on the cover, not inside like the department. Anyhow, just an idea. I honestly think that Sirius isn't dead, Jk remains a mistery about that, however, Dumby is definitely dead in my opinion. So, there's what I think....I'll let everybody chew on that for a while.

I don´t think Sirius was dead before he went through the veil because his expression changed as he fell. J.K. says his face was half laughing but then changed to suprise just before he went through the veil. I think the veil represents the voices of the dead-not the future. However, as Sirius is my favourite character I´m willing to believe any theories on how he can come back in book 7!

why is it that when bella hits sirius with the curse it just known as
sirius is hit with a curse square in the chest

we don't know what curse it was because
nothing was said and there was no sign of green jet of light
hmmm...

I don't believe the Veil is the future. I do believe it is death. However, Sirius wasn't dead when he fell through the veil. I believe Bellatrix hit him with a jet of red light (I assume this is a stunning curse). He had surprise on his face because I don't believe he expected to get hit. I don't know that we have heard the end of Sirius,but I do believe he is dead. I don't believe I can say with any certaintywhat orle the Veil will play in the 7th book, but I am firmly of the opinion we will see it again, and it will play a significant role.

Hmm... I don't think it's a gateway to the future, rather a gateway to 'death.' I don't think Sirius is dead exactly though... I just think he's trapped in the 'world' of the dead if that makes sense.
I agree with Kelli, the US cover for DH does appear to show the veil ( that's what I thought as soon as I saw it) and I think it will play a very important role in the next book.

I agree with Butterflytears that the veil will play a very important role in the DH. I mean i'm very sure that Harry would want to rescue Sirius. Even if everyone keeps telling him that Sirius is surely dead. But i think that Harry would go beyond than excepting Sirius' death. He may want to go and try to find a way to get Sirius out of the veil somehow, while finding and destroying the horcruxes that remain. But the whole future topic. I don't think that it really is, unless if you get put in a different world or something to that extent, if that makes sense.



*Sirius*

I think the veil might lead into the future or have something to do with the future. It makes a lot of sense and I refuse to believe that Sirius is dead. There has to be some mystery about it. I mean it kind of was in the department of mysteries.

I have say that the future thing is a bit wierd but I think its like anoher realm like a dream state or something. However I do blieve it may have something to do with the seventh book. I get all excited when I talk about the new film or book. [:

You know, I never thought of that, but it makes perfect sense! You definatly have something there. Then, you may have unraveled one of the seventh book mysteries! You so totally ROCK! Thanks!

It's a nice thought,I wish it were true,but then Remus said that Sirius was dead. He said to harry that he wont come back.If it was the future then Sirius would come back.

You say that Remus said he was dead. How did Lupin know? How did Lupin know what wa behind the Veil unless he's been there. As he definately knew but how? How do we all know he hasn't experienced something similar or even the actual Veil?

mmm..interesting idea,I never throug on it...
but I still think the veil is simply the death beacuse Harry hear voices in it...I think thees is the voices of his parents that are,in fact,death.
sorry for the error,I'm italian!

In my personal beleif,if the veil was a time portal at all, it was a passage to the past, not the future. It's something I thought about when I started thinking about it's significance. Oh well. We'll just have to wait for Ms.Rowling's encyclopedia!

A phrase that keeps coming to my mind is "crossing the veil". I can't find an actual definition for it, but I've always associated it with death--the "veil" being the fine barrier between life and death.

I don't believe that the Veil in the DoM is the future or the past, merely a visual gateway to Death. Is not Death considered one of the great mysteries? Which would explain the gateway's location.


imho

hmm, the veil as the future? i dont think so, it cant be the future. it is said that when you are hurt my any dark magic it is unrepairable. now sirius fell through the veil , but he was hit right in the chest with the Aavada Kedavra. How can the veil be the future ? will he appear dead in the future? im not being sarcastic or mean here. im just thinking.

So in my opinion what the veil might have been was somewhere else. Like if you're body falls through it [if dead] then it disappears completely. Or its some sort of afterlife place where your soul goes yet your body is gone. I know that there are some people that thought that it was connected to "kings cross" since some connect Kings cross as heaven.. does anyone understand me? i'm not turning this into religion please no one take anything offensive . those are not my intentions. so as i was saying. kings cross is consider like heaven or limbo . so maybe the veil has a connection to it. but then some might say if thats true then where was sirius when harry was in kings cross?

Point to what im saying is that i dont think that the veil is connected to the future. Maybe it means your soul is off for "reincarnation" does anyone get me? like to hear your thoughts (:

Wow, it's been a while! Ok, let's get going! I missed you!!! Ok, that love fest is over with now.
I'm also unsure about the veil being the future. What we know most about the veil is that there are voices coming out of it, but the only ones who can hear any of those voices are Harry and Luna, both of whom have seen death, and therefore can see the Thestrals. I have a feeling it is a similar kind of connection thingy, because that element is also another focus of that novel.
Therefore, if that is the connection, it must have something to do with death. Now the first thing that pops into my mind is that it is a portal to the world of the dead, or even limbo, but I bet it's the world of the dead. I have a feeling Harry's parents and Cedric were rather content with being dead, or at least seemed to be content after coming out of the Dark Lord's wand (priori incantatem).
What also seems plausable is that the only voices you hear are the ones of the people you knew who you saw died, because then it would explain why those two can hear them. I mean, it could work both ways, that it works as a portal, but it would make most sense that the most dominant voices, the ones reaching out to them, would be the ones of the people they knew.
I guess that's all I have. That seems to make the most sense, really. If it is the future, that's really creepy.

~Aeryn~

In the book it says that Harry and Luna can hear the voices, but it also states that Neville and Ginny are "apparently entranced at the veil too", which lead me thinking that they are also hearing voices. The fact that Neville can hear voices might be the same thing as with the thestrals. If you have seen death you can see the thestrals and apparently hear voices from the veil. But the question here is why can Ginny hear voices? She can't see thestrals and there is not any mention of her seeing death, so why can she hear voices as Neville, Luna and Harry can?

I don't really think that the veil represents the future. I have always believed that the voices come from those who have gone behind the veil and are deperate to get out. They might not be dead, but they are not living either.

I just need to know are you going off the book or the Movie? In the book, Sirius was hit with a red spell which we aren't sure what Bellatrix hit him with. In the movie Sirius was in fact hit with the killing curse. By the way, this was one of the biggest things that bothered me about this particular movie. Anyway, Ginny could hear the voices too because in the Chamber of Secrets death lived in her. Voldemort possesed her body and therefore she knew death first hand. I believe that the veil was a portal to the other side. A door for the dead so to speak. I don't think that the veil had anything to do with the future.

I don't think the veil represents the future, I think the reason certain people can hear the voices is because they saw something traumatic, like death. We know that Harry and Luna saw people die, so that's easy to figure out. Someone said that Ginny heard them, and she saw Tom Riddle's diary get "killed", and even though that might not have been traumatic to her, it was still death. Neville saw his parents being tortured, and that's traumatic, so he was able to hear them, too.

That is my theory.

If Ginny saw death when the diary was destoroyed, then why could she not see the thestrals? If she had seen death then she would have no problem seeing the thestrals!

The only reason that I have been able to think of so far is that Hermione and Ron can't hear the voices because they are less open minded than the others. Their subconsciousness(?) is telling them that there is no way they can hear death and therefore they can't hear the voices.

Well, maybe it had been because the diary wasn't a real person...(?) I don't know anymore...


That makes more sense than my theory, though was Ginny all that open minded?

I don't think Ginny actually saw death. I think that it was more of a death experience that possessed her. When the sixteen year old Tom Riddle preserved his memory in that diary, he was living. But then he took a part of his soul and placed it in that diary as a horcrux and when he died, that part of his soul, although living, was attached to a bigger part of his body that had perished.
When Ginny had Riddle's influence upon her, she showed that she was incredibly sensitive to the afterlife. I don't think the veil is the future but a porthole or a kind of purgatory for the dead. It is almost like the dead that fall through it are trapped somehow and able to be heard though only certain people can hear them. Perhaps that is why the Unspeakables were considered as kind of weird...they could "interpret" the voices.