I was just reading the "snogging" thread in the HBP movie forum and it got me to wondering how much the whole relationship thing will feature in book seven. I'm working on the theory that JK squeezed so much into book six because there would be very little time for it all in book seven.

This is not a shipping thread, please keep the comments on topic...

I don't think that there will be much in the 7th book, relationship wise. I think Hermione and Ron will finally get together, and perhaps Rowling will expand on Harry and Ginny's relationship, but other then that I can't see her throwing any knew ones in there. And the relationship between Ron and Hermione has been there every since book 2 I think, so that's not too out of the ordinary. I just hope there isn't too much "snogging"

Unlike Solarund, I DO think that JK Rowling will add a lot of romance in Book 7. She was really building up relationships in the sixth book, as Razz said, because there is not much time left to do it! Teenagers grow up, so it is natural for relations to be in the story. Adults have romance as well...its not unexpected really.
So, my predictions for Book 7 Romances are:

Harry and Ginny (so much worked up at the end of HBP, I would be greatly surprised if it did not continue)

Ron and Hermione (I am not a fan of this ship--stop discussing ships, David!--but JK has been hinting to a relationship between the two since PS/SS!)

Bill and Fleur (I think it is clear that Fleur does not care about Bill's new "status" as a semi-werewolf...she loves him anyway. Plus, shes "pretty enough for the two of them," anyway! True love )

Tonks and Remus (quite unexpected, but the couple gets together in the last few chapters of HBP. I would be shocked if the romance did not continue, but they may break up somewhere in the middle of Book 7)

Neville and Luna? (these two characters have grown in importance over the last two books. They are both outcasts, and have a common bond. I would be happy to see the two get together, even if it is a bit unlikely)


Whoa, the brain is starting to hurt again.....


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war seems to bring good people together and even though there was a lot of it in 6 there will probably be more in it as the power of love is really strong

well, I'm hoping that it won't invade the majority of the book. As important as relationships are, I don't want it taking up a lot of the book. I want the book to focus more on the important things like, The Final Battle.

JKR has said that Book 6 was really like the first part of the last book, and that Book 7 would be like the second part. Or something to that effect.

Book 7 was to be a continuation of Book 7, so no I don't think it will be all that different, other than the fact that the ships we will see in Book 7 have already been established. I highlly doubt we'll see any new ones.

I do think there will be fair page time given to:

Ron & Hermione
Harry & Ginny ( yeah, they split, but will be together a lot regardless)
Hagrd & Olympe
Tonks & Lupin
Bill & Fleur (won't see much of probably, other than at the wedding)

The only other ship I see coming, well ships really, is the Hogwarts teacher who is married (I'm guessing married to the Weird Sister bass player who keeps cropping up) and possibly more of Fred and Angelina.

I doubt we'd see any other ships. I do think we're in for more snogging, and I'm very fine with that, though not as much overt snogging because Ron & Hermione will not do much in public, neither will Harry & Ginny if they get back together. It will be much less public stuff.

Oh, and we may see a Lupin/Tonks wedding towards the end. My guess only.

You have a point GWH. Jo did say HBP was like part one of two parts. But that's why I guess in the second part its going to be mostly about war and Horcruxes, and the relationship stuff will probably only really feature if its part of the main plot. Like the Ginny as bait thing, or if Ron or Hermione gets captured. Then I suppose it will come to light. I just cant see the same sort of light-hearted snogging etc fitting in to the last book.

Hmmm... This is a very interesting topic. Relationships have become a big thing in the past few books. In HBP I think Jo outdid herself with the whole 'snogging' sequences. I'm leaning towards the theory that Jo crammed everything into HBP because she knew that when she wrote the seventh book, there would be less romance.

To be honest, I really hope that relationships and romance atwixt the characters in the seventh book, don't overpower the main plotline. Nor do I think that there should be no relationships atwixt the charcters at all. The best route I'm going to take here, is to say that I would rather have the romance balance out with the plot action.

I completely agree with you razz. I believe that it is best if romance sparks but with the plot and not with anything else. In other words, it should happen only if necessary.

I really like your idea about using Ginny as bait or capturing Ron and/or Hermione to clash with the plotline. (Or perhaps capturing Ron, Hermione and Harry in a dungeon under a rickety old church... ) I'm almost positive, though, that if relationships do in fact come up again, it will be more along the lines of something like this.

In comparison to book 6, the next one will most likely be much less relationship oriented. I believe book 6 did finish all the little teen, puppy-love plots, and the rest will be much more about love and not just snogging. But relationships will be much more minor not being all about jealosy and snogging.

Hopefully the only relationships will be the meaningful ones that will be tied up in the end.

Well, since in book 6, many SHIPS were created, I don't think Jo will go into much detail about that in the next book. So I'm guessing that not much of the book will be chewed up with love and dating, unless Jo is describing dates of a certain charactor, and of course, Bill's wedding.

The only relationships that were present at the end of HBP was Fleur and Bill's and very likely, Tonks and Remus'. We know Fleur and Bill will be getting married, probably at the Burrow (?), in book 7. I do believe that the wedding will be at least a chapter long. As for Tonks and Remus, I think that they will be regarded as a couple in the final book. The other so called relationships in HBP either ended or were never developed. I get the feeling that a new relationship will be introduced in book 7. We'll just have to wait and see.

Don't forget there were three more:

Rubeus Hagrid -- Olympe Maxime
Ron Weasley -- Hermione Grainger
Harry Potter -- Ginny Weasley

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Harry and Ginny won't snog a lot in public because they understand now that if Voldemort finds out he could use it against them if he captured one of them. Harry said to Ginny that he can't see her any more, but I don't think that they will actually stop dating. They'll be very careful and can't meet a lot, but that doesn't mean that they'll stop loving each other.

Ron and Hermione won't be that careful. Which creates all kinds of possibilities of them getting into trouble because of their relationship.

Rubeus and Olympe will continue to eat bugs out of each other's hair (yeeeccchh), they are big enough not to let anyone stop them.

Although romance novels are my favorite, I hope that J.K. doesn't go too far with it. But, if it's part of the 'love power' that Harry has to defeat Voldemort, (which I think it is), then the strongest relationship development that we will see is towards the end, with Harry and whomever..

Bill and Fleur of course because of the wedding.
I don't know about Hagrid and Olympe, she was hardly mentioned, and maybe J.K. will keep her out of the scenes.
She probably won't say much about Tonks and Lupin because the book's told from Harry's POV, and he himself doesn't talk to them all that much.

Anyway..I actually want to see more angast in the next book than romance.

Personally, I don't think I want to see any more angst for Harry. That would mean that his silly monster (the one that resides in his pants! ) will have control over Harry once again! I certainly do NOT want to see that again. Once was more than enough!

I would, however, like to read about a lasting romance for Harry in the final book! I even have just the girl in mind for him!

Yes that is true but i was really disappointed that Hermoine and Ron didn't get together in that book.There really isent enough time to show Hermoine and Roin and there love relationship.I duno if J.K just kinda like puts Ron and Hermoine are together but dosent make a whole love scene thing in with it I will be really disapointed.Protsts all around. Ansd I hope Ginny and Harry get together.Again i would like to see the relationship develop again.

Talking about relationships, i guess there wouldn't be much from the trio... Harry, Hermione, an Ron... and the other casts as well. I think Book 7 will be more focusing on the war of the wizards (or will there be really one?) and Harry's search for the horcruxes.

Probably, the relationship J.K. might be talking about in the final book is the friendship the trio has. She might be writing more about how true and loyal the three of them are with each other, so, i'm not really expecting romance in book 7 but basically, love among friends.

Hermione and Ron, on the other hand, might have a better relationship here this time. I mean, no more childish arguements. They might have finally accepted that they both like each other, probably more than friends. And maybe, Ron would start giving in to Hermione's know-it-all attitude without complaining. He might start courting her officially which Hermione would gladly accept.

Harry, then, might meet a new character, a young witch who would turn him head over heels... Then it might lead to a serious relationship in the end.

But, I would personally prefer that Harry would end up with no one yet to be in love with. By the end of the story, Harry will be the happiest wizard to see her best friends, Ron and Hermione, finally happy and very much in love together.

I think relationships will play a big part in book 7, aswell as the war and for Harry, Ron and Hermione finding the horcruxes.

I think Ron and Hermione will finally get together, but the book will be more focused on the final battle between Harry and Voldemort...
It won't be the time for relationships for Harry.

I think they wont be in it as much as the 6th one..there wont be time for it. but i think relationships will feature quite alot, JK has said she enjoys the romance and of course theres the thing that keeps being repeated about love and its the most powerful emotion ect...

At the end of the last book when Lupin and Tonks got together..cant remember who said it but someone said DD would be happy there was a bit more love in the world..which makes me think she wont stop with the relationships. After all,you cant have the seventh book being totally serious the whole way through. There will be alot of light moments and it wouldnt be a HP book without them

i agree . love will be a big part of the seventh book. i always thought that ron and hermione loved each others but they didnt know how to express themselves like the short romance between cho and harry[COLOR=blue]

I think that we should be prepared for some aspects of romance to be a part of book seven, but I don't think that the snogging will be involved to quite the extent of book six. I think that Rowling has always been clear that Harry maturation plays a part in the books, one aspect of that being hisdiscovery of girls. So, now that he has found Ginny, I think that there will definately be some relationships that will feature more prominantly than others. I think that she will probably feature Ron and Hermione, since she's taken 6 books to set that up, I don't think she'll just leave it where it was. . . Tonk and Lupin will definately have some air-time, but it' won't be a feature. Same for Bill and Fleur-I'm sure the wedding will be there, but I don't think much from them past that in the romance department.

One reason I don't think she'll expend a lot of energy on the romance relationships in book 7 is that there is so many more other things that need to be accomplished; but it is unrealistic not to expect some, I just hope it's watered down.

I think that Ron and Hermione will definately get together by some point. I don't care if it's in an epilogue or not, THEY WILL BE TOGETHER!! *evil laugh* Other than them, Tonks and Lupin will stay together for a while, but I have a sinking feeling that one of the two will either be killed or something. Like, all of the marauders will in the end all die? You know?



MOD EDIT: slight netspeak with "yanno" I've edited your post.

I keep getting stuck on the fact that Jo finally got Harry and Ginny together, and she wants it to be a deep and lasting love, yet she had them break-up at the end of HBP. Surely that cant be the end of it. Ginny must play a fairly large part in it or why bother cementing them together at all?

And like others have said, there are a number of relationships set up now, and I think she's going to use some of those to capture the drama and brutality of the war by killing off a partner or two so virtually none of them get through unscathed. Sad I know, but it just seems right, you know?

There's no H/Hr Shippers. Has it never occured to anyone that the love between Ron and Hermione is puppy love. Hermione truly loves Harry but is scared tom do something about it. She's still very fond of Ron who fancies her, but Ron aint Harry. And what's more Ginny wasn't bothered about them breaking up. Harry I think likes Hermione but won't upset Ron. And yes you'll all say but we'd know since the book is from Harry's point of view. has it ever occured to anyone that maybe Harry is in denial and anyway he aint very good with girls. However as the Horcrux battle goes on Harry will realise his true feeling. I could see brief R/Hr and H/G at the start of Book 7 eg Bill and Fleur's wedding but H/Hr is more long term.



MOD NOTE: Hiya Hermy You're second post said...

i forgot to add, Dan + Emma = Love, Rupert + Emma = yuk
Surely Jk Rowling must speak to the producers and would not want D/E ( H/Hr) Love in the films if it was totally R/Hr because it would put her in a difficult position

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razz

JKR has said during one interview that Book 7 and Book 6 are like two parts of the same book.

Given that, I have to believe we will see love and romance in Book 7 mixed in with everything else, but it will surround the couples she established in Book 6.

Curious others mention something happening to Tonks or Lupin. I have that fear as well.

Love obviously plays an important part in the plot of the last book, and I think that's what she was setting us up for during Book 6.

I'm anxious to see about the power of love behind that locked door at the DofM.

Love is a big part of every book, I don't just mean the relationships, but I think this is how Harry will kill Voldemort. Anyway, I think something will happen to Tonks and Lupin, too, although I hope it doesn't, they make such a good couple!

Relationships will have to be featured in the final book. There are too loose ends here too. H/G broke up in HBP. Many believe they will reunite, many do not. R/Hr STILL didn't happen in HBP. Many believe they will officially become a couple in book 7, many do not as they hope that H/Hr happens in book 7 instead. L/T was revealed in HBP, and I hope we will see more of them in book 7. It wouldn't surprise me if book 7 starts off with the wedding of Bill and Fleur. So, yeah, relationshops will certainly play a large part in book 7.

I agree with all of you, relationships will paya big part in book 7.



MOD EDIT: Hi Nicky, No one-liners please.

I'll share my opinions on relationships:


Ron and Hermione: A no-brainer, 99.9% chance.

Harry and Ginny: Likely, 75-85% chance.

Harry and Hermione: Unlikely, 0.1% chance.

Lupin and Tonks: Reasonably likely, 75-80% chance.

Neville and Luna: Iffy, 40-50% chance.

Draco and Pansy: Likely, 80% chance.

Hagrid and Maxime: Borderline, 45-50% chance.


I hope I didn't offend anyone. *bites lip*

Though it would certainly be interesting to see Draco develop a relationship, i don't think it is too likely to become much of a focus given his current status in the books. Don't forget he is on the run, probably going into some sort of hiding (or back to Voldemort), and will not likely be returning to Hogwarts. . .I just don't think he's going to have a relationship feature. . .

Well...i to agree with felix and the rest who said that in book 7 will be a lot of romance.The couples: Harry &Ginny, Bill &Fleur, Lupin &Tonks,etc...and possible couples like Ron& Hermione, Luna& Neville( thogh i must say i wish that hermione will be with Krum )
I'm also thinking of a possible relationship that Snape might have with narcissa( it seems to me that he has a thing for her).
Anyway , i belive that we will have plenty of romance in book 7.

Maybe Draco Malfoy can have a relationship, she could help him, hide from the ministry of magic! It seems really far fetched, but anything could happen.

In my opinion, J.K. Rowling made the 7th book seem much, much, MUCH more serious than the previous books, according to the last few pages of HBP. So, unless she intends to write a book the size of a baby whale, I don't think relationships are going to be mentioned much in it. Ron and Hermione might be mentioned as a couple a bit (at least I think they should get together...but that's a whole 'nother story.) And when you think about it, Harry probably isn't going to get himself involved in a relationship. He has enough to do as it is, without worrying about girls. And of course, the wedding of Bill Weasley and Fleur Delacour. Hopefully that will bring a teensy bit of happiness to the swirling mass of misery Harry has been through...

I don't think there will be a lot of time for coupling in book seven,
but I hope there is.
I at least see Harry and Ginny continuing there relationship.

As for Ron and Hermione? Who knows.

One relationship I could live without is Remus and Tonks. I love both charecters but let's be realistic, he is old enough to be her father. And that is just a little too creepy for me.

I want to see Luna get a boyfriend, she deserves a little happiness.
And Neville as well.

I agree, I think Ron and Hermione will get together and so will Harry and Ginny. It's weird because Harry's mother Lily looked kind of like Ginny and she was intelligent like Ginny too. We might see some unexpected relationships too, like we did with Remus and Tonks. Some people may even meet/get together at Bill and Fleur's wedding that would be good, I can't wait for that. The relationships in book six, HBP, how they developed and how the characters had grown up a lot, was what I liked a lot about it. So I hope she does put new relationships in this one. I particulary would like to see Luna Lovegood get with someone.

I believe relationships will be in the begining and the end. There is just too much going on to worry of the drama and if something goes wrong and one of the trio get mad and dont talk to each other for a while like it seems that happens every book.

Love is going to be a central theme in book 7. There's no way around it, really. I believe that relationships, both romantic and otherwise, will indeed be central to the plot because of this.

I can't really say much more because it would be shipping, and that's not the point of this thread. But suffice it to say that the bond of love (both romantic and platonic) between the trio is going to be integral in this book.

I definetely agree; relationships and love in general are both going to be very important in this book.
Here are some relationships that could happen:

Harry and Ginny: very likely

Ron and Heromine: likely (even though I would HATE it )

Lusa and Neville: iffy

Fleur and Bill: already planning their wedding

Tonks and Lupin: likely (we saw the start of it in book 6)

Now here's something to think about: alot of people think that Draco will "turn to the good side". J.K. could accomplish this by having him fall in love with Ginny or Heromine or someone like that. It wouldn't work out of course, but it would turn Draco to the good side.

Just something to think about.

Relationships are a big theme. Ron and Hermione have been acting like an old married couple since like book 3....theyre bound to get together. I won't be surprised at all if they share a kiss at Bill and Fleur's wedding. However, I don't think it will last long. One of them is bound to die (it pains me to say it!). It would be too much like right for them not to.

Harry and Hermione are just good friends. They can confide in each other, and seek advice. Nothing more, nothing less. They just dont gel as well as Ron and Hermione would. Opposites attract....look at Ron and Hermione! Love is definitely in the air....but just a whiff!

Yeah I hope there's going to be some romance! I definitely want to see more of Harry ang Ginny. And seriously guys, how long have we been waiting for that Ron/Hermione moment? I think long enough! But it doesn't have to overshadow the whole book, just enough to make the story more interesting.

i hope JKR did what she did in HBP, she made the book funny by writing about the whole Ron/Lavender and Cormac/Hermione thing. I am sure that Ron and Hermione will get together in book seven and I hope Ginny and Harry do too. Or Harry finds someone else he cn be happy with.

I'm a huge advocate of Hermione and Ron. I can't wait for them to seriously realize their feelings, but at the same time I can.

Suppose Voldemort discovered this, and used it to his advantage. I'd hate to see something happen to them.

I'd hate to see something bad happen to them too, 'Rember my last...' (cool name by the way), they seem like such a big big part of the Harry Potter books, we've seen them for most of the books. Sadly, however I think something will happen to them I think one of them will sacrifice themselves for Harry.

It's that or they will be seriously injured. Thanks! And you don't have to type out "Remember my last...." everytime....just call me Tiff!